What makes a popular model magic?

[HiGirlsRHot]

Now I'm just speculating here, and I'll admit that my knowledge of money laundering comes mostly from Breaking Bad, American Greed, along with discussion of guys who run fairly large poker games on how they launder their money.I think that opening a studio on MFC is actually a pretty good way of laundering money.

In Breaking Bad Saul starts of asking for 1/3 split before finally agreeing to 17%, so I think 10% is much to low. After all we are talking about jail for tax evasion in most place.

Here is what I would do. First I'd set up studio, preferably outside the US. Unlike the regular studio which do very little in this studio you can guarantee girl page 1 placement. You give the girls or other people dirty cash and have them buy debit cards. They use these debt card to tip studio models. Higher tips gives them higher cam score and placement, which in turn leads to higher legitimate tips. You make money by only paying the girls $.04 a token (and off course they don't get any money from the studio tips.) If you make say 3 $599.99 purchase of 7575 tokens a week you can get $1,136/week/per girl or 63.1%, if you can work at an affiliate program with MFC, or even just a credit card rewards program the payout ratio is higher.. The girls will end up with 3,000-6,000 camscore (depending on much they work and how much legitimate tips they earn.), which is high but not so high to attract attention. The girls will be happy with the promotion dollars you have spent advertising and so wouldn't necessarily leave. Best of all the money spent on tipping the girls is a legitimate advertising expense and so reduces and/or eliminates the profits the studio makes. Of course you pay yourself as studio owner a goodly salary or profit sharing.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

^Why give up 50% tho? Why not just have your own website or camsite if you were going to do something like that. Or a stripclub. I'd go the gambling or bulk cash smuggling route. Both would be so shady but you wouldn't be losing much. Would call Saul after I got busted.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

^Why give up 50% tho? Why not just have your own website or camsite if you were going to do something like that. Or a stripclub. I'd go the gambling or bulk cash smuggling route. Both would be so shady but you wouldn't be losing much. Would call Saul after I got busted.

Cause you aren't giving up 50%, worse case 37% and probably less with an affiliate arrange or even a credit card rebate. Plus you are actually making money by running a studio and collecting 20% of the camgirls earnings, which counteracts some of the fee you are paying to MFC.

The problem as Saul explains isn't getting cash it is transforming the dirty cash into clean cash. So for instance you can't take your cash to Vegas and launder it through a Casino they have to report large cash transactions, and almost all bets are tracked via the players cards. It is hard to make big purchases with cash now days without triggering a ton of suspicion due to the ever present money laundering detection system that has been put in place since 9/11. So for instance my friends were running a highly profitable poker game 50 people a night played and they made $10-20/week. They wanted to buy a nondescript bar for 200K to launder the money through. But none of them could buy the bar, because paying cash for it would raise suspicious. Not to mention the background check to get a liquor license. How do three guys that claim less than 20K a year in income, come up $200,000 in $20 and $100 bill, other than an illegal activities, like drugs, gambling, or prostitution. So they were offering me 10% ($20k) to buy the bar in my name, but that wasn't nearly enough money for me to take the risk involved, eventhough I wasn't technically doing anything illegal.

You don't need a license to open a camgirl studio, just first and last months rent. Some young woman going into Walmart with a $1,000 to buy a debit card a couple times a week isn't going to set off alarms. Sure there are ways of laundering money that are probably cheaper, but right now cam sites seem to be under the radar, and hard to detect.

 

[Fay_Galore]

this is becoming a rather wild thread.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

^^Would take forever to clean the money that way but who cares, derailed dudes camgirls are magic thread enough.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

To get things back on track, smiling all the time is magical I guess.

 

[SilentOne]

Damn guys. I didn't think one little comment was going to cause all this. I read on a couple threads of models saying this is why the foreign girls are up there. And it made sense to me. Considering you would think someone with a 3500-6000 cam score they would have more then 20 at most people in there room. No need to be rude, Garsh! My comment on the money laundering, its probably unlikely that is the reason. But if you wanted to get away with something illegal, that would be a smart way to go about it. You'd most likely never get caught. But criminals are to greedy to be cutting out percentages of there money.

 

[JordanBlack]

Damn guys. I didn't think one little comment was going to cause all this. I read on a couple threads of models saying this is why the foreign girls are up there. And it made sense to me. Considering you would think someone with a 3500-6000 cam score they would have more then 20 at most people in there room. No need to be rude, Garsh! My comment on the money laundering, its probably unlikely that is the reason. But if you wanted to get away with something illegal, that would be a smart way to go about it. You'd most likely never get caught. But criminals are to greedy to be cutting out percentages of there money.

That little comment you made was xenophobic. Reading speculations somewhere on the internet doesn't make it an absolute truth. Saying that the majority of foreigners are scammers on mfc it's more than absurd.

That would mean that every cam girl that doesn't have your nationality is a scammer: the Canadians, the British, the Brazilians, the Aussies, the Romanians, the Germans etc.

Hopefully now you'll understand why you got the reactions you did.

PS: I'll recommend you to contact MilaMillan, I've heard she has a book about the inner dealings that go on mfc (money laundering, Mafia and the threat the "Foreigners" pose on mfc)...that was supposed to be launched about 2 years ago.

 

[LilyMarie]

Considering you would think someone with a 3500-6000 cam score they would have more then 20 at most people in there room.

Hi, 3500 camscore here. Used to be up to 9k, mostly between 5 and 6k. It is very rare that I get more than 40 people in my room before I'm naked. Tons of people like you filter out European models because they have wrong preconceptions. Ever thought about that?

 

[Ambers Troll]

Money laundering/ bot created BAF tokens/ falsifying camscore and other ways to seem more popular, might fool a few members into thinking a model is exceptional but not for too long. I think the fake aspect has its place in this topic, the right illusion can work in making a model seem more excptional, for a while anyway.

About 'foreign' models. As someone who spent pretty much the world wide, there is no nationality safe to spend on, or any more trustworthy than others. I will say when it comes to camming, buyer beware.
As a foreigner myself (Australian), I was most cautious of US models that seemed like their popularity was culturally based. The other thing I watched for, but often ignored/ worked through, is language difficulties. Ultimately, you will never know if you have a good model or bad one until you meet her.
Members miss out on some amazing models when they wont meet certain nationalities. Exceptional can be in knowing that your type of model can live anywhere.

 

[Falke]

Considering you would think someone with a 3500-6000 cam score they would have more then 20 at most people in there room.

Hi, 3500 camscore here. Used to be up to 9k, mostly between 5 and 6k. It is very rare that I get more than 40 people in my room before I'm naked. Tons of people like you filter out European models because they have wrong preconceptions. Ever thought about that?

Yeah, that's a good point. My favorite model (who is European) just reached a cam score of 3000-3500 over the past month. I was surprised that room counts really haven't gone up much. Often she doesn't even have more than 40 people once she's naked. The only times that she's gotten 100 or more was in the middle of show, and even then, it was maybe 20 premiums, 20 basics, and 60 guests.

 

[LilyMarie]

Considering you would think someone with a 3500-6000 cam score they would have more then 20 at most people in there room.

Hi, 3500 camscore here. Used to be up to 9k, mostly between 5 and 6k. It is very rare that I get more than 40 people in my room before I'm naked. Tons of people like you filter out European models because they have wrong preconceptions. Ever thought about that?

Yeah, that's a good point. My favorite model (who is European) just reached a cam score of 3000-3500 over the past month. I was surprised that room counts really haven't gone up much. Often she doesn't even have more than 40 people once she's naked. The only times that she's gotten 100 or more was in the middle of show, and even then, it was maybe 20 premiums, 20 basics, and 60 guests.

It's mostly because of the filter, believe me.
I've been playing around with VPNs for the past 1.5 years and whenever I have an American IP address, my room counts are either quite a bit higher or much higher, comparing to when I have my normal, European IP address. :|

 

[SilentOne]

Damn guys. I didn't think one little comment was going to cause all this. I read on a couple threads of models saying this is why the foreign girls are up there. And it made sense to me. Considering you would think someone with a 3500-6000 cam score they would have more then 20 at most people in there room. No need to be rude, Garsh! My comment on the money laundering, its probably unlikely that is the reason. But if you wanted to get away with something illegal, that would be a smart way to go about it. You'd most likely never get caught. But criminals are to greedy to be cutting out percentages of there money.

That little comment you made was xenophobic. Reading speculations somewhere on the internet doesn't make it an absolute truth. Saying that the majority of foreigners are scammers on mfc it's more than absurd.

That would mean that every cam girl that doesn't have your nationality is a scammer: the Canadians, the British, the Brazilians, the Aussies, the Romanians, the Germans etc.

Hopefully now you'll understand why you got the reactions you did.

PS: I'll recommend you to contact MilaMillan, I've heard she has a book about the inner dealings that go on mfc (money laundering, Mafia and the threat the "Foreigners" pose on mfc)...that was supposed to be launched about 2 years ago. [/quote
I'm not afraid or dislike foreign people ahahahaha. So its not okay for me to assume what I saw a bunch of others put down as true. But its okay for you to assume that I hate people from outside of america LMAO. Nor did I say EVERY model that is out of the states is a scammer. I didn't say any of them were scammers. Just because I assume that there studio tips them big to get them up on the first page, doesn't mean I meant there going to steal money from members? Thats not scamming, thats just a there own technique. You took everything I said way to out of context. Its not like we all know that models from everywhere haven't tipped themselves to try and get the room going. Not ALL models. But models have done this. Why is what I thought such a crazy idea? Chill out ladies.

 

[JordanBlack]

I think what makes a good cam girl. Is the fact that they actually want to be there. You can tell in the top 20 of women, every room you go into(unless there foreign girls who only got there because of there pimp). They LOVE there jobs. I mean think about it, when you go to your favorite resturant. Who do you most likely tip more? Its typically the waitress that is on top of her shit and is always smiling, always making sure your happy, and always happy to help you anyway she can, and throws in a little small talk/jokes here and there. When you can tell someone loves there work it makes them more appealing to approach. Top models make tons of money because they dedicate there life to being successful on cam, and no one dedicates that much time unless they really enjoy what they do.

My mistake, not all foriegners. Just a majority. There are foreign girls who do a really good job. But I've seen tons where they are in the top 100 and have 20 people in there room maybe while they just sit and stare not getting tipped at all. You know the girl only got up that high because the studio she works with tipped her themselves a ton of money to give her more viewers. But this never works and idk why they keep insisting it does

I quoted both your posts in case you forgot what you previously said. My replies where pretty much to the point. You were the one who mentioned words such as foreigners/ the majority of foreigners being run by pimps, otherwise they couldn't possibly reach top 20/ 100. Either you don't know the meaning of those words, for which I posted a simple dictionary definition, either you literally dislike foreign models and you see them all as scammers. The first or the latter, it doesn't matter your posts were put as an absolute truth in your eyes "majority of foreigners" are scamming the system => this is still in my opinion an ignorant, xenophobic affirmation. (Why everybody gets so defensive when proper labels are attributed - "I don't like Muslims, but hell that's not racism" ugh).

I'm not afraid or dislike foreign people ahahahaha. So its not okay for me to assume what I saw a bunch of others put down as true. But its okay for you to assume that I hate people from outside of america LMAO. Nor did I say EVERY model that is out of the states is a scammer. I didn't say any of them were scammers. Just because I assume that there studio tips them big to get them up on the first page, doesn't mean I meant there going to steal money from members? Thats not scamming, thats just a there own technique. You took everything I said way to out of context. Its not like we all know that models from everywhere haven't tipped themselves to try and get the room going. Not ALL models. But models have done this. Why is what I thought such a crazy idea? Chill out ladies.

Now you're just changing your tune after pretty much everybody pointed out it's pretty darn hard to tip so much (be it a "pimp" or a studio etc) in order for a model to be pushed to the top. Now you want to talk about camscore and how it can be inflated and how all models tip themselves....make up your mind, because you're the one going out of the context which you created at this point. Is it foreigners, foreigners in studios, all models?.

 

[LilyMarie]

Just a random little thing to support my theory... there's a Belgian model online right now, camscore 7711, speaks good English, is conventionally attractive. She's wearing a tanktop and she's been online for 16 minutes according to mycamgirl. There have been between 35 and 40 people in her room for the past minutes. :|

 

[TokenGesture]

Just a random little thing to support my theory... there's a Belgian model online right now, camscore 7711, speaks good English, is conventionally attractive. She's wearing a tanktop and she's been online for 16 minutes according to mycamgirl. There have been between 35 and 40 people in her room for the past minutes. :|

And she's got a fun topic -

"Doing the laundry. Tip if like what you see"

 

[mynameisbob84]

Just a random little thing to support my theory... there's a Belgian model online right now, camscore 7711, speaks good English, is conventionally attractive. She's wearing a tanktop and she's been online for 16 minutes according to mycamgirl. There have been between 35 and 40 people in her room for the past minutes. :|

This will no doubt sound racist and mean, but it's not intended to and I believe it to be true - I reckon at least 75% of the members who block Europe, do so to block Romania, and probably wouldn't mind if models from the rest of Europe showed up on their homepage. Not that Romanian models deserve to be excluded from searches or anything, but unfair as it may be, there's an undeniable stigma attached to Romanian models (studio models specifically) that doesn't apply to the Belgians, or the Germans, or the Dutch, or the Swedes, and so on and so forth.

If MFC were to break up the filters a bit, European models in general would benefit greatly.

 

[Leon_Omega]

(Why everybody gets so defensive when proper labels are attributed - "I don't like Muslims, but hell that's not racism" ugh).

I never understood this behavior either, if someone is steadfast enough in their xenophobic views that they start to actually voice them, surely they can grow a fucking spine and wear the label with some dignity.

Don't want to be called racist? Then don't say racist shit!

It's so simple, and yet apparently also so difficult...

 

[Leon_Omega]

Just a random little thing to support my theory... there's a Belgian model online right now, camscore 7711, speaks good English, is conventionally attractive. She's wearing a tanktop and she's been online for 16 minutes according to mycamgirl. There have been between 35 and 40 people in her room for the past minutes. :|

Could you PM me her name? Fom that description I'd say that this is a camgirl I wouldn't mind visiting sometime

 

[bsurs]

Just a random little thing to support my theory... there's a Belgian model online right now, camscore 7711, speaks good English, is conventionally attractive. She's wearing a tanktop and she's been online for 16 minutes according to mycamgirl. There have been between 35 and 40 people in her room for the past minutes. :|

On the other hand, a topic with "tip 9999 if u wanna help me with univ" and "30days skp(23456)" probably turns off a few potential viewers.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

This will no doubt sound racist and mean, but it's not intended to and I believe it to be true - I reckon at least 75% of the members who block Europe, do so to block Romania

I doubt this is true at all. I would imagine most block Europe simply in an effort to find models from the US. Most members probably aren't even aware or don't care about whatever stigma Romanian models have attached to them.

 

[Nordling]

This will no doubt sound racist and mean, but it's not intended to and I believe it to be true - I reckon at least 75% of the members who block Europe, do so to block Romania

I doubt this is true at all. I would imagine most block Europe simply in an effort to find models from the US. Most members probably aren't even aware or don't care about whatever stigma Romanian models have attached to them.

Difficult to determine really, without taking a poll while using truth serum or something. My guess would be that it's not Romanians specifically but IS about Eastern Europe vs. Western Europe, but actual percentages I couldn't hazard a guess.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

This will no doubt sound racist and mean, but it's not intended to and I believe it to be true - I reckon at least 75% of the members who block Europe, do so to block Romania

I doubt this is true at all. I would imagine most block Europe simply in an effort to find models from the US. Most members probably aren't even aware or don't care about whatever stigma Romanian models have attached to them.

Difficult to determine really, without taking a poll while using truth serum or something. My guess would be that it's not Romanians specifically but IS about Eastern Europe vs. Western Europe, but actual percentages I couldn't hazard a guess.

This topic came up in another thread and the dudes that blocked areas said they did it to find what they were looking for quicker. Maybe a very tiny percentage does it to avoid Romanians, but 75%? lol come on I doubt even 5% block Europe in an effort to avoid Eastern Euro models. Most just want US models.

 

[Nordling]

I don't disagree that "US Models Only" is their purpose, but that's just another way of saying they, for whatever reason, dislike models from other countries. Everything is relative. Limiting oneself to one type of human, is not a positive toward that one type so much as a negative toward everyone else. That's kind of the definition of Xenophobia.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

that's just another way of saying they, for whatever reason, dislike models from other countries.

No, it really isn't tho. They just prefer US models. Silly to me to limit yourself to one area but doing this doesn't mean they dislike models from other areas.

 

[Nordling]

that's just another way of saying they, for whatever reason, dislike models from other countries.

No, it really isn't tho. They just prefer US models. Silly to me to limit yourself to one area but doing this doesn't mean they dislike models from other areas.

I know it's thought to be "common knowledge" that limiting oneself to one type of human is simply a matter of "preference," similar to why one prefers peppermint ice cream over chocolate, but we don't eat the people we prefer, in fact online, we have no idea what they would taste like if all you did was lick their private parts. So, what is the root of this US preference? English language? I know a Dutch model on SM who speaks better English than maybe half of US models. Looks? No, most people in the US look just like those people in other countries that their ancestors came from. Common interests? I've talked with Dutch, Romanian, South African and people from many other countries whose interests pretty much matched those of Americans.

Shallowness then, if Xenophobia disturbs you. My real point is, you can't prefer something without to some degree disliking that which you don't prefer. Otherwise why would you prefer?

 

[PunkInDrublic]

My real point is, you can't prefer something without to some degree disliking that which you don't prefer.

Not true, you can simply like something more. No disliking has to be involved. I prefer shooters over rpg's, don't dislike rpg's at all, great fun, but I prefer shooters. Prefer luxury cars over sports cars but I don't dislike anything about sports cars. Really derailing dudes thread here so I'll just give up and agree that Romanians are the reason why people block Europe lol.

 

[SilentOne]

ANYWAYS... Anyone care to carry on as to why popular models are magical?

 

[Nordling]

ANYWAYS... Anyone care to carry on as to why popular models are magical?

Anyway, they're not magic or magical, they're popular, and they're popular because they do things that make people enjoy being in their room spending money. Being active, cheerful, erotic, charismatic, a million possible things, and the mix is different for each popular model; what works for one won't work for another. The trick is finding that series of activities that match you and your "guests."

* if it could all be broken down into a simple formula, every model would be popular and rich.

 

[SilentOne]

That is true. I find it amazing when I see a new model become big over night. Last time I saw this was about a month ago. A new model went from a 1000 cam score to a 10000 cam score. It was pretty awesome. She disappeared though after about a week. Along with another model I noticed that was non nude. She had a very high cam score, and was only on mfc for probably a month. And then she just disappeared. And well KendraD, she's only been a model on here for a year and she's very high up there. But how could she not be? She's as adorable as a kitten.