What do you consider successful?

[SexySteph]

Models who land top 100 consistently are successful, those who don't are not.

Yeah, you must be trolling like Steph said.

Would you call a model unsuccessful if she makes, let's say, $8000 every month? :?
Saying only the top 100 are successful is ridiculous.

Besides, everyone defines success differently anyway.

If you compare yourself to your neighbor-with-a-straight-job who makes 2k a month, then making 8k sure seems successful, but then again, your neighbor with a straight job does not show himself naked on the internet and because of it doesn't have the same risks as you do as a camgirl. Your risk has a value and that is why you earn more.

If we are talking about success in itself then sure, success means achieving your objective, if that objective is to play video games all day, work 3 days a week and pay your bills and that is what you do, then kudos! you have succeeded!

But we are talking about *success as a camgirl* meaning: success in a particular profession. You measure it against other cam girls. When MFC's wiki page states that many models make $10k and the top models make $50k (http://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Becomin ... _I_make.3F) then if you want to be successful you should beat what "many models" make. You can make it into top 100 with $12k a month. So that seems a fair to measure it.

Those of you who think I am trolling suffer from the elementary school competition syndrome in which everyone gets a trophy just for being there. In the real world adults understand that most people are average at what they do, and successful people are better than average. They also consider the TOP on their profession as the most successful examples. Some cam girls are bad, some cam girls are average, and only a few are successful, it is what successful means.

In regards to what Miss Lollipop and others say in a few threads, how do you know I am not a model? I have never said anything to indicate what or who I am, I haven't even specified my gender.

If above average is successful and you want to go by ranking, let's do that!

The lowest ranking that I've seen was around #6000 (first day of the month, very low tip, like 70tkns). So let's say 6000 is the lowest ranking. The average ranking on MFC is 3000. So, if you're ranking above #3000 you're doing better than the average girl. Top 100 is better than 98% of the other girls, now to say only 2% can be successful is a little extreme. If you still don't want to call the 50% that fall above the average successful then fine, let's call the top 25% successful. That's anyone that ranks in the Top 1500. Still too wide a margin? Even the top 10% includes 500 more girls than those in the Top 100.

And if you ARE a model it seems you only came here to argue about how the Top100 is what everyone else should be striving for. What a waste if an account. There are so many more things to talk about here.

ETA: PS Camsites are gonna fudge things a bit to get more girls to sign up. "Many" girls make $10k? Sure. I by many you simply mean a number more than a handful. But in this case "many" does not mean the majority, it means a small minority.

 

[Camgirl]

Models who land top 100 consistently are successful, those who don't are not.

Yeah, you must be trolling like Steph said.

Would you call a model unsuccessful if she makes, let's say, $8000 every month? :?
Saying only the top 100 are successful is ridiculous.

Besides, everyone defines success differently anyway.

If you compare yourself to your neighbor-with-a-straight-job who makes 2k a month, then making 8k sure seems successful, but then again, your neighbor with a straight job does not show himself naked on the internet and because of it doesn't have the same risks as you do as a camgirl. Your risk has a value and that is why you earn more.

If we are talking about success in itself then sure, success means achieving your objective, if that objective is to play video games all day, work 3 days a week and pay your bills and that is what you do, then kudos! you have succeeded!

But we are talking about *success as a camgirl* meaning: success in a particular profession. You measure it against other cam girls. When MFC's wiki page states that many models make $10k and the top models make $50k (http://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Becomin ... _I_make.3F) then if you want to be successful you should beat what "many models" make. You can make it into top 100 with $12k a month. So that seems a fair to measure it.

Those of you who think I am trolling suffer from the elementary school competition syndrome in which everyone gets a trophy just for being there. In the real world adults understand that most people are average at what they do, and successful people are better than average. They also consider the TOP on their profession as the most successful examples. Some cam girls are bad, some cam girls are average, and only a few are successful, it is what successful means.

In regards to what Miss Lollipop and others say in a few threads, how do you know I am not a model? I have never said anything to indicate what or who I am, I haven't even specified my gender.

In the real world success is not only measured in dollars and cents, but quality of life. I don't work on MFC, but I am a cam girl on Streamate..if I did work on MFC I would not make the top 100 based on my earnings.

Being able to work 15 hours a week, go on vacation with my partner 3-5 times a year, spend time with my daughter, and have an actual life, while making nearly six figures IS successful to me - and probably most of the world. We all don't spend 70 hours a week nearly every month working on MFC, thus our success is not confined to the MFC bubble. We actually have lives and relationships that require our time and just because we aren't willing to sacrifice our personal lives does not make us unsuccessful.

Even if we are measuring in numbers, $96,000-$108,000 per year (101 and under on MFC - those you consider unsuccessful in the "cam model" profession) is pretty successful in "the real world", whether your clothes are on or off.

Either way, if you are a model or a member, most of your posts here have been quite insulting. Calling 98% of MFC failures is pretty narrow minded and elitist.

ETA: And lets face it - yes camming is risky as far as identities being revealed, being "outed", family members finding out, etc. But if you are smart and careful the risk is not nearly as high. A "successful" cam girl will take the proper precautions to minimize her risk. I think 100k per year is plenty good hazard pay if you consider police officers and such are actually risking their LIVES every day and don't make near that much.

 

[TicTacToe]

If above average is successful and you want to go by ranking, let's do that!

The lowest ranking that I've seen was around #6000 (first day of the month, very low tip, like 70tkns). So let's say 6000 is the lowest ranking. The average ranking on MFC is 3000.

From the 6000 ranked models, the bottom half only worked a couple of hours that month. Some of them were new models who never came back. So it isn't as straightforward.

Top 100 is better than 98% of the other girls, now to say only 2% can be successful is a little extreme.

Well, if you exclude the slackers and only take into account the models who actually work, as opposed to those who only get their ass on cam the last 72 hours before the pay period ends, then the range is quite a bit smaller. I would be confident in saying that there are –at most– 500 girls working daily shifts on MFC in any given month.

ETA: PS Camsites are gonna fudge things a bit to get more girls to sign up. "Many" girls make $10k? Sure. I by many you simply mean a number more than a handful. But in this case "many" does not mean the majority, it means a small minority.

I don't think MFC is "fudging" anything. MANY girls make 10k. If you work every day and you are committed to your goals, you will too.

 

[LilyEvans]

1. the favorable or prosperous termination of attempts or endeavors; the accomplishment of one's goals.
2. the attainment of wealth, position, honors, or the like.
3. a performance or achievement that is marked by success, as by the attainment of honors: The play was an instant success.

Success is not defined by how you measure up to others, "TicTacToe". If I set out to make cookies, and I make cookies, I am successful. It doesn't matter if they taste better than Martha Stewart's cookies because that wasn't my goal. If your goal as a model is to finish in the Top 10 (or 20 or 100 or whatever) then you must meet those goals to be successful. However, it seems that many of the models who have answered here seem to have different goals than that. My goals, for instance, include working fewer than X hours per week, making $Y per hour, having plenty of freedom, and lots of money put into a savings account. I have met these goals, therefore I am successful. Miss Lollipop has different goals than I do so if she achieved the same things as me she would be unsuccessful. My friend, a nurse, works her butt off 50 hours a week making less money than I do, but it makes her happy and she still has time with her family and all bills paid so she is successful even though I would not consider myself successful in the same situation.

 

[TicTacToe]

1. the favorable or prosperous termination of attempts or endeavors; the accomplishment of one's goals.
2. the attainment of wealth, position, honors, or the like.
3. a performance or achievement that is marked by success, as by the attainment of honors: The play was an instant success.

Personal Success is not defined by how you measure up to others. Success As A Professional Of A Certain Field is. Which is what I said before.

If your PERSONAL goal is to cam the bare minimum to pay your bills and spend the rest of the month playing video games, and that is what you do, PERSONAL SUCCESS ACHIEVED!

But if we are talking –like we are– about success in a profession then, sadly, it IS about being part of the best which is BY DEFINITION an elite.

The athlete who wins sprint gold medal at the Olympics is successful as an athlete. If you like to jog around the block and then spend time with your family, you might be contented but you will not win the medal. It is very simple.

I don't understand the fuzz. If you admit that your goal is to spend time with your husband or bake cookies or plant flowers then good for you! But don't be sad when you aren't considered among the successful ones in your profession. The successful ones do spend most of their time and energy honing their skills and figuring out new ways to beat their record. Just accept the reality of your condition: if camming isn't your top priority then don't expect to measure yourself against those cam girls who do consider it their number one priority. They will come on top and you will not. Simple.

 

[LilyEvans]

But if we are talking –like we are– about success in a profession then, sadly, it IS about being part of the best which is BY DEFINITION an elite.

Interesting, I could have sworn the thread was called "what do you consider successful"... Never was it mentioned the we should only be considering PROFESSIONAL success.

 

[LilyMarie]

But if we are talking –like we are– about success in a profession then, sadly, it IS about being part of the best which is BY DEFINITION an elite.

Interesting, I could have sworn the thread was called "what do you consider successful"... Never was it mentioned the we should only be considering PROFESSIONAL success.

And if you only consider 1-2% of all the people that are doing a job to be successful at their job, you're wrong. Period.

 

[AllisonWilder]

I don't understand the fuzz. If you admit that your goal is to spend time with your husband or bake cookies or plant flowers then good for you! But don't be sad when you aren't considered among the successful ones in your profession. The successful ones do spend most of their time and energy honing their skills and figuring out new ways to beat their record. Just accept the reality of your condition: if camming isn't your top priority then don't expect to measure yourself against those cam girls who do consider it their number one priority. They will come on top and you will not. Simple.

So, basically, if you don't exhaust yourself working around the clock then clearly your job is not a priority? Good to know, thanks! :thumbleft:

 

[Camgirl]

1. the favorable or prosperous termination of attempts or endeavors; the accomplishment of one's goals.
2. the attainment of wealth, position, honors, or the like.
3. a performance or achievement that is marked by success, as by the attainment of honors: The play was an instant success.

Personal Success is not defined by how you measure up to others. Success As A Professional Of A Certain Field is. Which is what I said before.

If your PERSONAL goal is to cam the bare minimum to pay your bills and spend the rest of the month playing video games, and that is what you do, PERSONAL SUCCESS ACHIEVED!

But if we are talking –like we are– about success in a profession then, sadly, it IS about being part of the best which is BY DEFINITION an elite.

The athlete who wins sprint gold medal at the Olympics is successful as an athlete. If you like to jog around the block and then spend time with your family, you might be contented but you will not win the medal. It is very simple.

I don't understand the fuzz. If you admit that your goal is to spend time with your husband or bake cookies or plant flowers then good for you! But don't be sad when you aren't considered among the successful ones in your profession. The successful ones do spend most of their time and energy honing their skills and figuring out new ways to beat their record. Just accept the reality of your condition: if camming isn't your top priority then don't expect to measure yourself against those cam girls who do consider it their number one priority. They will come on top and you will not. Simple.

Being the absolute best, or, as you mentioned - "Elite" in a profession is not the only measure of success.

Here are some "professional" comparisons.

A Doctor working at an unknown hospital has succeeded in their profession. They may not be as successful as a Doctor working at John Hopkins, but nonetheless, they are still successful in their profession. The owner of the Mom and Pop diner down the road is still successful in their field, although they may not be as successful as the owner of a small chain. That CPA who went to school for 5 years and now works at a mid-sized firm is successful even though he doesn't work at KPMG (Big 4 - "Elite" CPA Firm) like another CPa with the same education. All have acheived success in their fields. They have not failed (which by DEFINITION is the lack of success). Yes, certainly in these examples one was more successful than the other, but not being the elite does not negate their PROFESSIONAL success.

Why does someone have to be "on top" and make work "their number one priority" to be professionally successful? Oh, that's right, they don't. My daughter is my number one priority. Awesome - SUCCESS AS A PARENT! However, I am still successful in my profession. Likely not on MFC, but since MFC is not the only camsite in the universe, and not the only place to stream as a model, in my profession as a CAM MODEL - I am successful.

Using MFC Top 100 to determine the success of an ENTIRE Profession is so fucking short sited it is ridiculous.

Seriously. Is this for real? Best.Troll.Ever.

 

[Camgirl]

if camming isn't your top priority then don't expect to measure yourself against those cam girls who do consider it their number one priority. They will come on top and you will not. Simple.

FYI, you are the only one measuring models against the top 100 here. The.only.one.

Not one person said they expected the same level of success. They simply said they were still successful.






I feel like this person spends SOO much time on MFC they have lost site of the rest of the universe.

 

[JickyJuly]

Measuring yourself against others is pretty juvenile. The only people I've met who do it are tacky middle class Americans living in quiet credit card debt. I hope for the sake of your sanity you are just some dweeby dude who has a weird thing for ranking women and not a model.

 

[Autumn_LoL]

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The lowest ranking that I've seen was around #6000 (first day of the month, very low tip, like 70tkns). So let's say 6000 is the lowest ranking.

I've never been higher (lower?) than the top 10,000 before at the end of the month and that's with almost 4000 tokens earned. <.<

I know you're being hypothetical and not meaning anything by it, but I still had a brief, fleeting sad.

 

[JickyJuly]

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The lowest ranking that I've seen was around #6000 (first day of the month, very low tip, like 70tkns). So let's say 6000 is the lowest ranking.

I've never been higher (lower?) than the top 10,000 before at the end of the month and that's with almost 4000 tokens earned. <.<

I know you're being hypothetical and not meaning anything by it, but I still had a brief, fleeting sad.

I don't cam on MFC anymore, but I do get the random offline tip placing me in the lineup. In January, it put me at 15 thousand something. So, you're still doing better than maybe 1/3 of the girls? *dries your eyes*

 

[TacoBelle]

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The lowest ranking that I've seen was around #6000 (first day of the month, very low tip, like 70tkns). So let's say 6000 is the lowest ranking.

I've never been higher (lower?) than the top 10,000 before at the end of the month and that's with almost 4000 tokens earned. <.<

I know you're being hypothetical and not meaning anything by it, but I still had a brief, fleeting sad.

Autumn, Steph wasn't saying a ranking in the thousands was negative, she was just saying that she wasn't sure how many models there actually are logging in every month. Don't has a sad!!! 4000 tokens is still a damn nice chunk of change, especially when some or most of us have tried everything to make extra cash (including those "GET PAID TO TAKE SURVEYS!!!" and after spending 8 hours of horribly dull work, you realize that you've made... DUN DUN DUUUUUN ... $1.30. But you can't get a check until you make $20. :lol: I regress). You are doing something you enjoy, making money doing it, and you are a spectacular lady. No sads will be had here today!!! :naughty:

 

[curvyredhead]

Well, if you exclude the slackers and only take into account the models who actually work, as opposed to those who only get their ass on cam the last 72 hours before the pay period ends, then the range is quite a bit smaller. I would be confident in saying that there are –at most– 500 girls working daily shifts on MFC in any given month.

This is absurd..there are over 30k girls that log in to MFC over a 60 day period of time. There just HAS to be more then 500 girls in a given month working at least 5 days a week.

I complete agree and understand what you mean by girls who only get on at the end of pay period tho.

 

[Autumn_LoL]

I don't cam on MFC anymore, but I do get the random offline tip placing me in the lineup. In January, it put me at 15 thousand something. So, you're still doing better than maybe 1/3 of the girls? *dries your eyes*

Autumn, Steph wasn't saying a ranking in the thousands was negative, she was just saying that she wasn't sure how many models there actually are logging in every month. Don't has a sad!!! 4000 tokens is still a damn nice chunk of change, especially when some or most of us have tried everything to make extra cash (including those "GET PAID TO TAKE SURVEYS!!!" and after spending 8 hours of horribly dull work, you realize that you've made... DUN DUN DUUUUUN ... $1.30. But you can't get a check until you make $20. :lol: I regress). You are doing something you enjoy, making money doing it, and you are a spectacular lady. No sads will be had here today!!! :naughty:

Oh, I know. It was just like a "Oh. " for the half second it took to read that part then I proceeded about my day completely unfazed. Haha.

Also, I totally did those surveys and made $20 bucks before. LOL. Any time my dad asks about me making some extra cash on the side from camming I tell him I did some online surveys or web design or something. :lol:

 

[JoleneBrody]

I can guarantee that long term success is found in balance. If a model puts camming before her non-cam life of human needs for too long she will burn out and disappear.

So sure, work 7 days a week and make MFC your number one priority... But that's very short sighted and likely to backfire in any career choice.

 

[SexySteph]

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The lowest ranking that I've seen was around #6000 (first day of the month, very low tip, like 70tkns). So let's say 6000 is the lowest ranking.

I've never been higher (lower?) than the top 10,000 before at the end of the month and that's with almost 4000 tokens earned. <.<

I know you're being hypothetical and not meaning anything by it, but I still had a brief, fleeting sad.

Autumn, Steph wasn't saying a ranking in the thousands was negative, she was just saying that she wasn't sure how many models there actually are logging in every month. Don't has a sad!!! 4000 tokens is still a damn nice chunk of change, especially when some or most of us have tried everything to make extra cash (including those "GET PAID TO TAKE SURVEYS!!!" and after spending 8 hours of horribly dull work, you realize that you've made... DUN DUN DUUUUUN ... $1.30. But you can't get a check until you make $20. :lol: I regress). You are doing something you enjoy, making money doing it, and you are a spectacular lady. No sads will be had here today!!! :naughty:

What Iris said! No sads, I was simply trying to guess at how many models there were on MFC based on the lowest ranking number I'd seen on. I have no idea what the lowest ranking is potentially it was just a guess.

 

[mynameisbob84]

If you compare yourself to your neighbor-with-a-straight-job who makes 2k a month, then making 8k sure seems successful, but then again, your neighbor with a straight job does not show himself naked on the internet and because of it doesn't have the same risks as you do as a camgirl. Your risk has a value and that is why you earn more.

This is bullshit, good sir/madam. Camgirls earning megabucks (or even minibucks) earn what they earn based on the number of members they entertain and the amount of money those members see fit to pay for the entertainment being provided. That's it. Members don't tip models additional "hazard pay", they tip for entertainment - be it in the form of public shows, videos, pic sets, privates, groups, raffles, or even just conversation. If members don't tip, models don't get paid - MFC sure as shit aren't going to supply models with a base rate of pay for "taking risks that others don't have to".

 

[TicTacToe]

If you compare yourself to your neighbor-with-a-straight-job who makes 2k a month, then making 8k sure seems successful, but then again, your neighbor with a straight job does not show himself naked on the internet and because of it doesn't have the same risks as you do as a camgirl. Your risk has a value and that is why you earn more.

This is bullshit, good sir/madam. Camgirls earning megabucks (or even minibucks) earn what they earn based on the number of members they entertain and the amount of money those members see fit to pay for the entertainment being provided. That's it. Members don't tip models additional "hazard pay", they tip for entertainment - be it in the form of public shows, videos, pic sets, privates, groups, raffles, or even just conversation. If members don't tip, models don't get paid - MFC sure as shit aren't going to supply models with a base rate of pay for "taking risks that others don't have to".

Even if you don't realize it, the cost of her risk is implied on the price. It might not be the reason you are paying for the service, but it is the reason the service is expensive in the first place.

The risks of sexual work deter the majority of women from working in the industry. Scarcity drives prices up.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Re: tic tac toe about you being a model or not

If you're not a verified model on this site, then i'm going to have to operate on the assumption that you're not.

 

[SexySteph]

Re: tic tac toe about you being a model or not

If you're not a verified model on this site, then i'm going to have to operate on the assumption that you're not.

I'm going to go with the assumption that she is a model who doesn't want her name tied to the nasty things she's saying. (Side note: Being able to say what you want with alot of anonymity is what made another forum so unpleasant to be in, because girls would say whatever they want and not risk making themselves actually look bad in camland.)

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Re: tic tac toe about you being a model or not

If you're not a verified model on this site, then i'm going to have to operate on the assumption that you're not.

I'm going to go with the assumption that she is a model who doesn't want her name tied to the nasty things she's saying. (Side note: Being able to say what you want with alot of anonymity is what made another forum so unpleasant to be in, because girls would say whatever they want and not risk making themselves actually look bad in camland.)

good point.


if that is so, my dear, grow a set.



(that said, i do.. grudgingly agree that while bob makes some good points (members dont conciously tip for risk) prices for sex work are HIGH because it is a job that has stigma, and risk attatched to it. Not everyone will do it, so those that will can charge high for it)

That does not mean that success - whether this thread is about professional success or personal - ever needs to be measured against anything other than ones own professional or personal goals.

When you measure success against others, it means you let the outside world tell you what you are and what you are worth. And really, no one can do that but you.

 

[mynameisbob84]

If you compare yourself to your neighbor-with-a-straight-job who makes 2k a month, then making 8k sure seems successful, but then again, your neighbor with a straight job does not show himself naked on the internet and because of it doesn't have the same risks as you do as a camgirl. Your risk has a value and that is why you earn more.

This is bullshit, good sir/madam. Camgirls earning megabucks (or even minibucks) earn what they earn based on the number of members they entertain and the amount of money those members see fit to pay for the entertainment being provided. That's it. Members don't tip models additional "hazard pay", they tip for entertainment - be it in the form of public shows, videos, pic sets, privates, groups, raffles, or even just conversation. If members don't tip, models don't get paid - MFC sure as shit aren't going to supply models with a base rate of pay for "taking risks that others don't have to".

Even if you don't realize it, the cost of her risk is implied on the price. It might not be the reason you are paying for the service, but it is the reason the service is expensive in the first place.

The risks of sexual work deter the majority of women from working in the industry. Scarcity drives prices up.

Private and group rate is determined by MFC and has more to do with them being able to make a profit once the model's cut and the cost of hosting the private/group has been taken into account. I guess an argument could be made that when a model chooses to sell a video at a high price, part of her reasoning for charging that amount has to do with the risk of it leading to her being "exposed" in the real world. But I'd argue the majority of tips the top cam girls get are not for videos (or in privates/groups) but from members tipping seemingly random amounts that have nothing to do with any risks the cam girl is taking. Whether it be the smaller tips that add up over time or the obscene megatips, members aren't thinking to themselves "gee, I better make sure this woman is compensated for the risks she's taking by camming" when they spend that money :twocents-02cents:

 

[TicTacToe]

Re: tic tac toe about you being a model or not

If you're not a verified model on this site, then i'm going to have to operate on the assumption that you're not.

I'm going to go with the assumption that she is a model who doesn't want her name tied to the nasty things she's saying.

I am often puzzled when someone finds another person's view on a topic offensive just because it differs from their own. Someone thinks in a certain way and this offends your sensibility. I have been nothing but respectful to every person on this forum. My views might not be popular but that doesn't make them "nasty".

On whether or not I am a model, it is of little consequence. I offer a contrasting view on some of your debates that I think is healthy and necessary.

 

[SexySteph]

Re: tic tac toe about you being a model or not

If you're not a verified model on this site, then i'm going to have to operate on the assumption that you're not.

I'm going to go with the assumption that she is a model who doesn't want her name tied to the nasty things she's saying.

I am often puzzled when someone finds another person's view on a topic offensive just because it differs from their own. Someone thinks in a certain way and this offends your sensibility. I have been nothing but respectful to every person on this forum. My views might not be popular but that doesn't make them "nasty".

On whether or not I am a model, it is of little consequence. I offer a contrasting view on some of your debates that I think is healthy and necessary.

"Debates" on two topics. One that WAS about Top100 girls and another that you twisted into being about Top100 is the only measure of a camgirls success. If you didn't seem to have a one track mind/agenda your input might be more interesting! But turning this thread into the debate that you did was not healthy or necessary.

 

[Alexandra Cole]

I offer a contrasting view on some of your debates that I think is healthy and necessary.

No, you're answering a question that was never asked. The topic is "what do you consider successful?" That question is subjective. Success is variable. You responded with an absolute. It's comparable to answering the question "how do you feel?" with "everyone, everywhere, feels a little impatient right now because someone just bought into the idea that MFC's ranking system, which is really just meant to be a motivator among people who thrive in competitive environments, is a strict indication of success."

Debate is beautiful. I get all kinds of wet for debate. But you can't debate subjective experience and personal interpretation.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Since MFC is a business, success has to be measured in terms of money. You can use Miss MFC for it ($$$ she earns per month) or go by efficiency through camscore ($$$ per hour). Sure, you can also measure success in terms of "quality" (her fan base, cam persona, video quality, etc) but it is a subjective thing.

I prefer to measure it in Miss MFC terms. Camscore is only a number and it is of little use to have a 20,000 camscore if you aren't even ranked most months. On the other hand I have seen models with a 3,000 camscore finish in top 20 and in top 100 consistently. So in the end girl #2 is bringing more money home even when it takes her 10 times longer to make it.

Models who land top 100 consistently are successful, those who don't are not, in my opinion. That is just how I personally look at it.

FIFY? Maybe? You are absolutely entitled to your view on it, I think the last sentence being delivered as such a factual absolute rather than a subjective view (as you stated in the first sentence is important) probably came off a little more insulting than you maybe intended it?
I dunno, I disagree with you on quite a few points but you are more than entitled to that view for your own life.
It sucks to think you, hiding model or not, have such a negative view of the majority of models who keep our website in existence but it's your prerogative to think that way.

However when you put that type of negativity out there projected on others ('those who don't are not.') as a community who care about and want to elevate one another, you knew people would respond this way, don't act like your shocked.

If a model is OK with throwing any chance of a personal life out the window to succeed at her personal goals, right on. Good for her!
If a model chooses to make just enough, 'work to live' shall we say, and succeeds at that goal. Good for her!

I'm proud of you both. And you should both be proud of yourselves.

Hooray!

 

[SaffronBurke]

To me, successful means paying all my bills, paying off a bit of debt, putting a bit in savings, and being able to buy myself something pretty and tip my model friends. Some pay periods I'm successful, some I'm not.

My office job pays my bills and feeds me, camming and selling content pays off my debt and buys pretty new dildos and shoes. If I'm too stressed at the office or in my personal life, I don't have as much time to dedicate to making porn. Those times suck, but the money being tight motivates me to try harder.

I'm not a competitive person, so I don't care how other people are doing compared to how I'm doing. I'm a hermit who lives in the woods, so I don't even notice people's success IRL, and I prefer working on camsites that aren't so competition-based. I occasionally engage in a week-long or month-long competition with other ACF girls, but it's for the fun of a friendly competition, and it's a rare occurrence.

My biggest motivator is being where I want to be for me, not because it makes me feel better than someone.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Hey TicTac, do you consider mfc a porn site?