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I mentioned in another post that I bought a model something off her wish list, and it was an unpleasant experience for me (no thank you at all). So I am prepared for this OP to be taken as me whining, but I have been thinking about this often lately.

I saw another MFC model this morning who was asking for gift cards to buy a new Mac, as well as specific tips with notes for a trip she plans to take abroad.

First I want to say that I think the last part is ridiculous (just my opinion). How do "I" know that the tips I give for the trip will actually be used for it? Why bother tipping specifically for that and labeling it as such? Why not just tip and the model pool all her funds for the trip?

As for the Mac, I do get that. She would (hopefully) be using it for camming, making it a good thing for her regulars to pitch in for.

Then we have the model I am somewhat grumpy with. So yeah, I am biased. But what I have noticed with her is that all of her topics (except today, which surprised me) have directed guys to her wish list. Her list has included phones and tablets (she has received 3 that I know of), jewelry (LOTS of jewelry) and bags/purses (again, so very many). And her regulars have been buying her loads of stuff. She makes a production of being "away" so she can run to the mailbox to get her new stuff daily and then opening it all on cam. Which I think is smart (the opening on cam part. The running to the mailbox is obviously untrue, unless her mailbox is the size of a shipping container).

A couple days ago she said she was sad that her camscore keeps dropping. One of her regulars suggested removing the wish list so guys actually tip (kinda surprised she never thought of this). It seems to me that this is something MFC would really hate (no, I am not going to report her :p ), since it means she is using their platform to mainly get Amazon gifts.

What are your thoughts? Is there a point where you think the wish list is ridiculous and members become virtual sugar daddies?
 
My thoughts are: If it doesn't concern you, then butt out. :/ I mean, it feels like you're just scouring the situation for things to get irritated about, right? If it's no difference in your life, just let her and her regular members go on being happy with the situation they have worked out. :? That's just my take on it.

I didn't read your other post but it seems like you knew the response you'd get to this one before you even posted it. :lol: If you feel uncomfortable with the way she's running her room, then I suggest you find another model who like, or maybe even give up MFC altogether. With your pessimistic attitude, I'm not sure if you'll ever find a model who's just perfect. :roll:
 
Jillybean said:
My thoughts are: If it doesn't concern you, then butt out. :/ I mean, it feels like you're just scouring the situation for things to get irritated about, right? If it's no difference in your life, just let her and her regular members go on being happy with the situation they have worked out. :? That's just my take on it.

I didn't read your other post but it seems like you knew the response you'd get to this one before you even posted it. :lol: If you feel uncomfortable with the way she's running her room, then I suggest you find another model who like, or maybe even give up MFC altogether. With your pessimistic attitude, I'm not sure if you'll ever find a model who's just perfect. :roll:

:lol: Yeah, that was pretty much what I expected :p

Nah, I don't put THAT much effort into being crotchety. I admit I am bitter about the one (but I no longer visit her room) and the other just popped into my head.
 
JimsX said:
I mentioned in another post that I bought a model something off her wish list, and it was an unpleasant experience for me (no thank you at all). So I am prepared for this OP to be taken as me whining, but I have been thinking about this often lately.

I saw another MFC model this morning who was asking for gift cards to buy a new Mac, as well as specific tips with notes for a trip she plans to take abroad.

First I want to say that I think the last part is ridiculous (just my opinion). How do "I" know that the tips I give for the trip will actually be used for it? Why bother tipping specifically for that and labeling it as such? Why not just tip and the model pool all her funds for the trip?

Some people like helping their favorite models do things or get things. And often times when girls do things like what you described you get something in return as well. For example, many girls do fundraisers for the camgirl mansion and if you tip for it you'll get content to be released at a later date. Or another one I've seen is joining a girl's "Car Club", people who tip for her car club will get photosets or videos made in her new car.

These things are supposed to appeal to regulars or members who like to tip just for the sake of tipping or making a girl smile.

If that's not your bag, I totally get it. But what you describe is not entirely uncommon on MFC.
 
JimsX said:
What are your thoughts? Is there a point where you think the wish list is ridiculous and members become virtual sugar daddies?


Have you ever considered that this is exactly what some men want? Maybe being a sugar daddy and spoiling a girl isn't your cup of tea, but there are some guys who totally get off on it. It's better to them to have an "omg thank you so much, I can't believe you got me this" and then SEE the girl use the clothes, jewelry, toy. Gifts often stand the test of time, where a tip towards a show goal might be fleeting. The goal is gone by the end of the night. A gift isn't.

I have regulars who pretty much don't tip, regardless of whether or not I have a wishlist up. But when I have a wishlist, those guys often go crazy on it. Some members enjoy buying gifts more than tipping. A few of my regulars don't enjoy giving MFC half of their money ANY of the time, and there is often an item I am in need of that I'd be spending the money they tipped on anyway.
 
LacieLaPlante said:
JimsX said:
What are your thoughts? Is there a point where you think the wish list is ridiculous and members become virtual sugar daddies?


Have you ever considered that this is exactly what some men want? Maybe being a sugar daddy and spoiling a girl isn't your cup of tea, but there are some guys who totally get off on it. It's better to them to have an "omg thank you so much, I can't believe you got me this" and then SEE the girl use the clothes, jewelry, toy. Gifts often stand the test of time, where a tip towards a show goal might be fleeting. The goal is gone by the end of the night. A gift isn't.

I have regulars who pretty much don't tip, regardless of whether or not I have a wishlist up. But when I have a wishlist, those guys often go crazy on it. Some members enjoy buying gifts more than tipping. A few of my regulars don't enjoy giving MFC half of their money ANY of the time, and there is often an item I am in need of that I'd be spending the money they tipped on anyway.


I am with Lacie here. Given my choice between spending $75 to buy 900 tokens or spending $75 to get an outfit or a sex toy. I'd almost always prefer getting the item, or even give them a gift card to their favorite store and see what they picked out.

The economics always work out in favor of the gifts. If I tip 900 tokens I get < 1/2 the countdown for a cumshow, for me and my favorite 400 freeloaders. The models get $45 and after taxes keeps $25 or so. Often I'll get a picture or video of the model using the toy or in the outfit. If the model really needs the item than it makes perfect sense for her to ask her regulars to buy it for.

I do think models go overboard on wishlist at time, so I think it is smart for them to prioritize this is the stuff I need (hell I've even bought kitty litter and cat food) vs wow these diamond earrings are stunning it would awesome if a sugar daddy bought them for me.

Now a few of my favorite models are struggling and you can't buy the rent with sex toys or lingerie (although there maybe ways. :hide), so I have been buying tokens and not gifts lately, but if I had my choice.
 
LacieLaPlante said:
JimsX said:
What are your thoughts? Is there a point where you think the wish list is ridiculous and members become virtual sugar daddies?


Have you ever considered that this is exactly what some men want? Maybe being a sugar daddy and spoiling a girl isn't your cup of tea, but there are some guys who totally get off on it. It's better to them to have an "omg thank you so much, I can't believe you got me this" and then SEE the girl use the clothes, jewelry, toy. Gifts often stand the test of time, where a tip towards a show goal might be fleeting. The goal is gone by the end of the night. A gift isn't.

I have regulars who pretty much don't tip, regardless of whether or not I have a wishlist up. But when I have a wishlist, those guys often go crazy on it. Some members enjoy buying gifts more than tipping. A few of my regulars don't enjoy giving MFC half of their money ANY of the time, and there is often an item I am in need of that I'd be spending the money they tipped on anyway.

I hadn't considered your last line, but that makes sense. And I think I would do the same for a favourite model. Good point also on gifts lasting longer than tips.

Darnit, you guys are ruining my rant! :crybaby:
 
HiGirlsRHot said:
I am with Lacie here. Given my choice between spending $75 to buy 900 tokens or spending $75 to get an outfit or a sex toy. I'd almost always prefer getting the item, or even give them a gift card to their favorite store and see what they picked out.

The economics always work out in favor of the gifts. If I tip 900 tokens I get < 1/2 the countdown for a cumshow, for me and my favorite 400 freeloaders. The models get $45 and after taxes keeps $25 or so. Often I'll get a picture or video of the model using the toy or in the outfit. If the model really needs the item than it makes perfect sense for her to ask her regulars to buy it for.

I do think models go overboard on wishlist at time, so I think it is smart for them to prioritize this is the stuff I need (hell I've even bought kitty litter and cat food) vs wow these diamond earrings are stunning it would awesome if a sugar daddy bought them for me.

Now a few of my favorite models are struggling and you can't buy the rent with sex toys or lingerie (although there maybe ways. :hide), so I have been buying tokens and not gifts lately, but if I had my choice.

You just changed my mind :lol:

Yeah I guess my rant was based on frivolous stuff (cat food and litter I would totally buy), but I am experiencing buyer's remorse, as this thread shows clearly :lol:

I had forgotten that some guys love being the sugar daddy. Alien concept to me, but I am sure every model has at least one.
 
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On a very particular level, I agree with you. Up to some point.
I totally get wishlists, and if I had the funds I msyelf would rather get model friends something of that list then spending a lot of tokens on them, it feels more personal and you know it's gonna be something cute/fun/sexy instead of my tokens going on the big pile. I love the idea of wishlists, giftcards etc. it's cute and a fun alternative (or extra!) to tokens. I obviously love getting something of my wishlist, I am a sucker for presents and surprises.

What I do not like, are 'utility' goals, I've seen girls crowdfund stuff they should just IMO take out of their paycheck. stuff like rent, your uncles birthday present, tipping other models, your kid's schoolsupplies, etc. Also tweets like '200 until rent, who's going to offline tip me?' If you're struggling, get online, if you can't get online, at least offer something in return for offline tips.

However, I do very much appreciate crowdfunded holidays, where if you add/pledge you get something personal from that holiday, same with a car as mentioned above, a new bed/couch, lingerie, computer, etc. etc. It's totally cute if you do it right.
 
Fay_Galore said:
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On a very particular level, I agree with you. Up to some point.
I totally get wishlists, and if I had the funds I msyelf would rather get model friends something of that list then spending a lot of tokens on them, it feels more personal and you know it's gonna be something cute/fun/sexy instead of my tokens going on the big pile. I love the idea of wishlists, giftcards etc. it's cute and a fun alternative (or extra!) to tokens. I obviously love getting something of my wishlist, I am a sucker for presents and surprises.

What I do not like, are 'utility' goals, I've seen girls crowdfund stuff they should just IMO take out of their paycheck. stuff like rent, your uncles birthday present, tipping other models, your kid's schoolsupplies, etc. Also tweets like '200 until rent, who's going to offline tip me?' If you're struggling, get online, if you can't get online, at least offer something in return for offline tips.

However, I do very much appreciate crowdfunded holidays, where if you add/pledge you get something personal from that holiday, same with a car as mentioned above, a new bed/couch, lingerie, computer, etc. etc. It's totally cute if you do it right.

You actually worded the one part of my OP better than I did. To me buying gifts is one thing (within reason, as my previous whiney posts have said), but as you call them, the "utility" goals are a touch irritating to see. I certainly understand if a model works hard and just had a bad pay period. I am fortunate to have a predictable income, and many of the models I enjoy spending time with do not have that. So it's not a big deal to help once in a while, but I resent it when the model works 2-3 days before each cutoff and then is terribly upset at not hitting a goal.

Yes, I am waffling back and forth in my own thread :lol:
 
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Jillybean said:
So... These guys wanting to buy girls cat litter and food... Where do I sign up?

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:lol: Only kidding... For now. :shifty:

This is interesting though, as one thing I hadn't considered is how many men love practical purchases over the frivolous ones. :lol:


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Fay_Galore said:
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On a very particular level, I agree with you. Up to some point.
I totally get wishlists, and if I had the funds I msyelf would rather get model friends something of that list then spending a lot of tokens on them, it feels more personal and you know it's gonna be something cute/fun/sexy instead of my tokens going on the big pile. I love the idea of wishlists, giftcards etc. it's cute and a fun alternative (or extra!) to tokens. I obviously love getting something of my wishlist, I am a sucker for presents and surprises.

What I do not like, are 'utility' goals, I've seen girls crowdfund stuff they should just IMO take out of their paycheck. stuff like rent, your uncles birthday present, tipping other models, your kid's schoolsupplies, etc. Also tweets like '200 until rent, who's going to offline tip me?' If you're struggling, get online, if you can't get online, at least offer something in return for offline tips.

However, I do very much appreciate crowdfunded holidays, where if you add/pledge you get something personal from that holiday, same with a car as mentioned above, a new bed/couch, lingerie, computer, etc. etc. It's totally cute if you do it right.


Totally on target IMO. The holiday is a few things, you give someone an EXPERIENCE (better than a thing) especially if you're a part of getting her that experience, you're PART OF IT. That's a forever thing. But you could also be buying a unique item for yourself. Tipping for a holiday could net you a postcard or something, sent from whatever weird backwards soccer loving country they visit. That's a limited time special item. That's an awesome selling point right there. Win/Win.
The utility goals... there used to be a rule (HA! MFC Rules?!) that you couldn't beg for these types of things like this. Again, I agree totally here. Spot on. But then the sugar daddy principle falls in here too. Some guys might want to "take care" of the models and not just buy them nice things. I guess it depends on the people in your room. IMO I would imagine it gets some guys to really throw it out there, while driving others from your room. It's a matter of if it's worth it or not.
Wishlists are great too. Sexy undies? Here's a photo of me wearing them for you. BAM! Unique, personal, win.
 
Keithy said:
Totally on target IMO. The holiday is a few things, you give someone an EXPERIENCE (better than a thing) especially if you're a part of getting her that experience, you're PART OF IT. That's a forever thing. But you could also be buying a unique item for yourself. Tipping for a holiday could net you a postcard or something, sent from whatever weird backwards soccer loving country they visit. That's a limited time special item. That's an awesome selling point right there. Win/Win.
The utility goals... there used to be a rule (HA! MFC Rules?!) that you couldn't beg for these types of things like this. Again, I agree totally here. Spot on. But then the sugar daddy principle falls in here too. Some guys might want to "take care" of the models and not just buy them nice things. I guess it depends on the people in your room. IMO I would imagine it gets some guys to really throw it out there, while driving others from your room. It's a matter of if it's worth it or not.
Wishlists are great too. Sexy undies? Here's a photo of me wearing them for you. BAM! Unique, personal, win.

:crybaby: And I bought the model a purse. I totally wish I could have pics of her in sexy undies or feeding her dog the food I bought.
 
Jillybean said:
So... These guys wanting to buy girls cat litter and food... Where do I sign up?

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:lol: Only kidding... For now. :shifty:

This is interesting though, as one thing I hadn't considered is how many men love practical purchases over the frivolous ones. :lol:

Just to be clear I bought camgirl's cats presents because well I am a cat nut. The kitty litter was because we were having a 1 year birthday party for the cat and all the good stuff was already bought. Step one is to have a cute kitten, or camera friendly cat. I also tip pretty routinely for furry pussies.
 
LacieLaPlante said:
Maybe being a sugar daddy and spoiling a girl isn't your cup of tea, but there are some guys who totally get off on it.

Now, maybe I'm old fashioned... but the entire idea of the sugar daddy/sugar momma is that they not only get to spend money on a pretty young woman/man, but they also get other benefits... like showing off/being seen out with said PYT and, you know, actual sexual favors. As in real life sex stuff, not virtual online sex stuff.

Seems pretty counter productive to try to be a sugar daddy/momma to someone you will in all likelihood never meet, let alone ever get any actual sexual acts from.

The sugar daddy/momma can't show off the PYT they've got to their friends of a similar age (normally late 40s-mid 50s for the daddy/momma), nor can they actually fuck them if it's just virtual. All the sugar daddies and sugar mommas I know are more than happy to spend the money on the hot young women or men, and all the spoiled women and men are more than willing to fuck the ever living hell out of those well to do or rich sugar daddies/mommas as long as they keep getting the money and gifts.

Maybe fetishes are changing, but I can't see how being a virtual sugar daddy/momma to someone you will never meet is in any way as satisfying as the real thing.
 
UncleThursday said:
LacieLaPlante said:
Maybe being a sugar daddy and spoiling a girl isn't your cup of tea, but there are some guys who totally get off on it.

Now, maybe I'm old fashioned... but the entire idea of the sugar daddy/sugar momma is that they not only get to spend money on a pretty young woman/man, but they also get other benefits... like showing off/being seen out with said PYT and, you know, actual sexual favors. As in real life sex stuff, not virtual online sex stuff.

Seems pretty counter productive to try to be a sugar daddy/momma to someone you will in all likelihood never meet, let alone ever get any actual sexual acts from.

The sugar daddy/momma can't show off the PYT they've got to their friends of a similar age (normally late 40s-mid 50s for the daddy/momma), nor can they actually fuck them if it's just virtual. All the sugar daddies and sugar mommas I know are more than happy to spend the money on the hot young women or men, and all the spoiled women and men are more than willing to fuck the ever living hell out of those well to do or rich sugar daddies/mommas as long as they keep getting the money and gifts.

Maybe fetishes are changing, but I can't see how being a virtual sugar daddy/momma to someone you will never meet is in any way as satisfying as the real thing.

Different strokes for different folks! Just because it wouldn't be satisfying to you to shower a pretty girl with money and gifts without a sexual favor in return doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of men looking for just that. :thumbleft:

There are also plenty of sugar daddy/sugar baby relationships out there where sex isn't taking place, even if you don't happen to know of any. :)
 
UncleThursday said:
Maybe fetishes are changing, but I can't see how being a virtual sugar daddy/momma to someone you will never meet is in any way as satisfying as the real thing.

You could say that about any fetishes, or even about watching girls on cam vs being with them in real life. I think it's a different type of satisfaction.

Also if what the sugar daddy/mama is looking for is sex with a hottie in exchange for money & gifts, then yeah, it would be less satisfying. But a surprising amount of people just genuinely love spoiling cuties, and feeling needed/appreciated. For them it is probably just as satisfying as the gratification of doing it in real life, if they're doing it for that reason. Maybe it depends what they're looking for or why they like it.
 
HiGirlsRHot said:
Jillybean said:
So... These guys wanting to buy girls cat litter and food... Where do I sign up?

D9dTRSo.gif


:lol: Only kidding... For now. :shifty:

This is interesting though, as one thing I hadn't considered is how many men love practical purchases over the frivolous ones. :lol:

Just to be clear I bought camgirl's cats presents because well I am a cat nut. The kitty litter was because we were having a 1 year birthday party for the cat and all the good stuff was already bought. Step one is to have a cute kitten, or camera friendly cat. I also tip pretty routinely for furry pussies.


I think Turd (my cat) is pretty worthy of having her own Sugar Daddies.



I'm not REALLY asking for cat food. My cats have a daddy who loves them more than he loves his own wife (me) so I really have no place asking for anything from camsite members for my cats.

I'm totally leaving this video here though because Turd is literally the cutest fucking cat in the world. It's true. I'm not ... biased or anything.
 
From my POV as a member my wishlist experiences have been pretty poor. If you include funds transfers and the like, they would rate similarly as disappointing. Wont embarrass myself with saying what I have gifted, but will say that any thankyou, if you get one (sometimes you don't, I have an ACF model in mind), always felt less than what it was worth. Perhaps this is a part of such exchanges in this situation. When you gift you are not being directly rewarded and often it is worth far more than the model can reasonably show appreciation/ thank you for.

Chat sites, even 20 years ago, have always offered gifting options, it is part of the experience members want, this is why MFC overlooks it, even if it doesn't serve their interests.

I think targetted tip requests, and wishlists have their place. As secondary to something else better, enrichment of the model/ member relationship.
 
Honestly, my first thought with the model who was asking guys to put a note in their tips for the trip was that she's probably promised pics and/or vids from the trip to those who tipped for it, and needs an easy way to tell who tipped.

See, in our list which details how many tokens we got from whom in what form, it also includes tip notes if there were any. So it's real easy to eye down that list for the month or payperiod and see who put in the tipnote "have a nice trip!" Scanning through the tipnotes for the word "trip" allows the model to note down the names when she's off-cam, so she's not taking up camtime writing down the names of the people who tipped. Especially useful if she's getting a lot of tips, some of which might not be for the trip package.
 
LadyLuna said:
Honestly, my first thought with the model who was asking guys to put a note in their tips for the trip was that she's probably promised pics and/or vids from the trip to those who tipped for it, and needs an easy way to tell who tipped.

See, in our list which details how many tokens we got from whom in what form, it also includes tip notes if there were any. So it's real easy to eye down that list for the month or payperiod and see who put in the tipnote "have a nice trip!" Scanning through the tipnotes for the word "trip" allows the model to note down the names when she's off-cam, so she's not taking up camtime writing down the names of the people who tipped. Especially useful if she's getting a lot of tips, some of which might not be for the trip package.

Fair enough. I had not thought of that ;)
 
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You bought a girl a gift expecting some sort of personal fulfillment in return, and were upset when it didn't live up to your expectations of "gift giving".

That's pretty text book sugar daddy behavior, even if it's to a lower degree.
 
JoleneBrody said:
You bought a girl a got expecting some sort of personal fulfillment in return, and were upset when it didn't live up to your expectations of "gift giving"

That's pretty text book sugar daddy behavior, even if it's to a lower degree.

:lol: If you are referring to me, no, I just wanted a thank you. I then noticed that she receives so many gifts that she loses track of who gives what. I learned and won't do it again ;)
 
JimsX said:
JoleneBrody said:
You bought a girl a got expecting some sort of personal fulfillment in return, and were upset when it didn't live up to your expectations of "gift giving"

That's pretty text book sugar daddy behavior, even if it's to a lower degree.

:lol: If you are referring to me, no, I just wanted a thank you. I then noticed that she receives so many gifts that she loses track of who gives what. I learned and won't do it again ;)
You seemed to not understand the sugar daddy fetish... but you see, you do! The whole reason you started this thread was a little sliver of it.
 
JoleneBrody said:
JimsX said:
JoleneBrody said:
You bought a girl a got expecting some sort of personal fulfillment in return, and were upset when it didn't live up to your expectations of "gift giving"

That's pretty text book sugar daddy behavior, even if it's to a lower degree.

:lol: If you are referring to me, no, I just wanted a thank you. I then noticed that she receives so many gifts that she loses track of who gives what. I learned and won't do it again ;)
You seemed to not understand the sugar daddy fetish... but you see, you do! The whole reason you started this thread was a little sliver of it.

Wanting a simple "thanks" is the same as wanting to be a sugar daddy? :naughty:
 
JimsX said:
JoleneBrody said:
JimsX said:
JoleneBrody said:
You bought a girl a got expecting some sort of personal fulfillment in return, and were upset when it didn't live up to your expectations of "gift giving"

That's pretty text book sugar daddy behavior, even if it's to a lower degree.

:lol: If you are referring to me, no, I just wanted a thank you. I then noticed that she receives so many gifts that she loses track of who gives what. I learned and won't do it again ;)
You seemed to not understand the sugar daddy fetish... but you see, you do! The whole reason you started this thread was a little sliver of it.

Wanting a simple "thanks" is the same as wanting to be a sugar daddy? :naughty:
Not quite, I'm just saying that buying a gift with the hope of a certain reaction might give you some insight into the thought process that confuses you...
There is nothing wrong with wanting to feel appreciated, I'm just saying that it's very similar to why people like being sugar daddies and might help it make sense.
 
JoleneBrody said:
JimsX said:
JoleneBrody said:
JimsX said:
JoleneBrody said:
You bought a girl a got expecting some sort of personal fulfillment in return, and were upset when it didn't live up to your expectations of "gift giving"

That's pretty text book sugar daddy behavior, even if it's to a lower degree.

:lol: If you are referring to me, no, I just wanted a thank you. I then noticed that she receives so many gifts that she loses track of who gives what. I learned and won't do it again ;)
You seemed to not understand the sugar daddy fetish... but you see, you do! The whole reason you started this thread was a little sliver of it.

Wanting a simple "thanks" is the same as wanting to be a sugar daddy? :naughty:
Not quite, I'm just saying that buying a gift with the hope of a certain reaction might give you some insight into the thought process that confuses you...
There is nothing wrong with wanting to feel appreciated, I'm just saying that it's very similar to why people like being sugar daddies and might help it make sense.

Fair point. I will admit I felt bad when she 1. Did not thank me and 2. had no clue what it was I bought her.

But I learned.

And yes this was just a thread for me to vent :p
 
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JimsX said:
Wanting a simple "thanks" is the same as wanting to be a sugar daddy? :naughty:

Considering a tip of 1 token often gets thanks, I see your point JimX.
As someone who works for a living, each time I spent it was hard work traded to do so. It might be 20 hours work for some members to give a model a gift.

To label it as sugar daddy fetish is to label big tipping the same (there is no extra reward in tipping 1k/ 5k/ 10k beyond a target). Gifting always felt more like a thankyou for a great time, sometimes as a display of support for the model herself beyond chat. The sugar daddy fetish (have felt it a little), comes through more in tipping, constant support where you are spending on a 'friend' just to help her pay the rent.

Whatever way you wish to label a gift, a 'thank you' is only right and polite.
 
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