hmm interestingThis was actually a PM from a model to me, and this is just one little example of why I like to be invisible from models.
My responses are to de-escalate the incoming issue/argument, and this is how I will usually deal with this kind of thing. Not always exactly like this, but in similar kind of ways (usually with some sort of humour, for example).
This particular model is one where she has most guys doting over her constantly, and she calls everyone "hers" like "My NotYou", and "my soulmate", and everyone else seems to fall for it. I have known her since about 2018, quite early after me joining cam sites, and she has never been able to make me be like them, and they all get jealous of one another, argue etc. I have never been like this and I think she both likes that I am not, but also hates it too. She pretends like she hates arguing and fighting, but I genuinely think she really loves it. But all of that is a whole other discussion
Model:
Wish you a good cum!
Me:
thank you, and one for you too
Model:
Me:
Model:
You want me to trust you, no?
Me:
it's up to you if you trust me or not, I have always been honest and open with you about visiting other models, ever since I first met you
Model:
Ok
(and I wasn't even on the site, I had left it open, I was cooking/eating crumpets - you guys from previous threads made me buy some. And there was me thinking adverts have no effect on m
This was actually a PM from a model to me, and this is just one little example of why I like to be invisible from models.
My responses are to de-escalate the incoming issue/argument, and this is how I will usually deal with this kind of thing. Not always exactly like this, but in similar kind of ways (usually with some sort of humour, for example).
This particular model is one where she has most guys doting over her constantly, and she calls everyone "hers" like "My NotYou", and "my soulmate", and everyone else seems to fall for it. I have known her since about 2018, quite early after me joining cam sites, and she has never been able to make me be like them, and they all get jealous of one another, argue etc. I have never been like this and I think she both likes that I am not, but also hates it too. She pretends like she hates arguing and fighting, but I genuinely think she really loves it. But all of that is a whole other discussion
Model:
Wish you a good cum!
Me:
thank you, and one for you too
Model:
Me:
Model:
You want me to trust you, no?
Me:
it's up to you if you trust me or not, I have always been honest and open with you about visiting other models, ever since I first met you
Model:
Ok
(and I wasn't even on the site, I had left it open, I was cooking/eating crumpets - you guys from previous threads made me buy some. And there was me thinking adverts have no effect on me )
It took me a minute to catch on to what she was doing here (I don’t use stripchat much), but I think I get it. She messaged you as a passive aggressive “gotcha” because she saw you were online on SC, and wanted to let you know you’d been “caught?” Am I right?
I got one of these “jokes” from a model yesterday and the result is I just won’t see her anymore. the model in my case was more direct thoughBingo. I have just learnt to laugh at models when they do it, but it is still annoying, it's an instant eyeroll. But instead of giving her what she hopes, which is no doubt me sucking up, saying sorry, and saying I love her (like her other users), I just do the above or will ask since when did we get married. She also said a few days ago that I was cheating on her, and then I asked how I can be cheating on anyone when I am single and SHE is married?
pretty muchI think sites allowing models to see when users are online is just silly. What is meant to be the benefit of it? Jealousy out is surely the most common result right?
I think sites allowing models to see when users are online is just silly. What is meant to be the benefit of it? Jealousy out is surely the most common result right?
Agreed, when I was on MFC I liked the idea of being able to appear online and available for pvt on request but not having to actively broadcast, but for the most part it just meant people trying to make conversation for freeSeems unhealthy for a model or a member to be too keenly aware of when their contacts are online or offline, especially when they use it for gotcha moments or incessant messaging. It adds a negative vibe to the whole experience.
For reasons all their own, greys will not buy tokens but their comments are..... Priceless. Just wish they saved them for themselves.Sorry double post but another grey
How can any model refuse such an amazing offer.
1:16 AM
Gyikkir
Hi there you are beautiful, sexy, attractive, delicious, exciting, princesses, you would throw me four kisses, you would be one of my favorites, I will be loyal to you very much
1:18 AM
Gyikkir
You get a heart from me, just four kisses in return;
I think (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) but on ManyVids Live, models can see when their regular members are online, see how many tokens they have (even if not in their room) and also know when they are in other model's rooms (although the last one may just be through active spying on other rooms on the model's part). I don't think any of that is on it's own unhealthy. I think all of that data is probably useful for a model in terms of meeting their customer's ever changing needs. It's when it's pointed out to the user or used as a stick to beat them with that it gets uncomfortable.From the sites’ point of view, they probably think it helps engagement and keeps all users (models and members) on the site by giving them something to obsess over between shows.
But it seems like a toxic distraction for some, IMO. Seems unhealthy for a model or a member to be too keenly aware of when their contacts are online or offline, especially when they use it for gotcha moments or incessant messaging. It adds a negative vibe to the whole experience.
I dont know about other models, I only speak for myself. I personally would not go checking on where my customers are and what they are getting off to. If they want to get off with me, they come to me.I think all of that data is probably useful for a model in terms of meeting their customer's ever changing needs.
I can see how it could get toxic. It was a bad choice of expression but I didn't really know what expression to apply to the situation if I'm honest. I've just known models who always keep an eye on members who have moved on, in the hope of understanding what they can do to possibly tempt that member back. I wasn't really thinking along the lines of wholescale reinvention but I totally get your point.Unrelated but wanted to address;
I dont know about other models, I only speak for myself. I personally would not go checking on where my customers are and what they are getting off to. If they want to get off with me, they come to me.
"Oh I see, User X is into brunettes in stockings now, might go get my hair dyed." - Can you see how that can get toxic? Assuming that we need to keep changing to meet our customers ever changing needs is really not very healthy. We are enough as we are, we do not need to change to meet our customers needs.
I think the fact that there are more models and users alone can well address the customers ever changing needs. The customers can find what they are looking for, I have faith in them! You want blondes, go see blondes!
They might lose track of me, however, if I go from blonde to brunette, from domme to sub or from glam to casual in an endless effort to meet my customers ever changing needs.
And I know that sounds contradictory because I said I didn't think it was unhealthy. What I mean by that is that I can understand how it is of benefit to models providing it's not abused. It's just that personally I'm not keen on the idea.I can see how it could get toxic. It was a bad choice of expression but I didn't really know what expression to apply to the situation if I'm honest. I've just known models who always keep an eye on members who have moved on, in the hope of understanding what they can do to possibly tempt that member back. I wasn't really thinking along the lines of wholescale reinvention but I totally get your point.
Personally I don't like the idea of models seeing token balances, online status of members or anything like that.
For some countries bitch = slut. It throws me offHappy Saturday! Great start to the day
(No other messages from this gold user)
1:15 PM
Paramh
U look like a bitch
I could be wrong because I only use MV live in the background of my main site so don't really know it too well but I don't think models can see when any members are online unless they're in their room. It's certainly not like sites like MFC where you have a sidebar showing all the members you've got added as friends who are online. If there is a feature for finding out, it's well hidden and I don't know about it.I think (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) but on ManyVids Live, models can see when their regular members are online, see how many tokens they have (even if not in their room) and also know when they are in other model's rooms (although the last one may just be through active spying on other rooms on the model's part). I don't think any of that is on it's own unhealthy. I think all of that data is probably useful for a model in terms of meeting their customer's ever changing needs. It's when it's pointed out to the user or used as a stick to beat them with that it gets uncomfortable.
This is so well said, I shed a single tear at its beauty. I refuse to change anything about myself to meet someone's expectations. I am complimented on it frequently. It shows my integrity and confidence in myself.Unrelated but wanted to address;
I dont know about other models, I only speak for myself. I personally would not go checking on where my customers are and what they are getting off to. If they want to get off with me, they come to me.
"Oh I see, User X is into brunettes in stockings now, might go get my hair dyed." - Can you see how that can get toxic? Assuming that we need to keep changing to meet our customers ever changing needs is really not very healthy. We are enough as we are, we do not need to change to meet our customers needs.
I think the fact that there are more models and users alone can well address the customers ever changing needs. The customers can find what they are looking for, I have faith in them! You want blondes, go see blondes!
They might lose track of me, however, if I go from blonde to brunette, from domme to sub or from glam to casual in an endless effort to meet my customers ever changing needs.
I can understand this, and it must be a pain in the ass to deal with users who waste your time and try to deceive you, but as a user who always tips and doesn’t waste models time I feel like it is my business how many tokens I have and appreciate the ability to hide them.ETA I think models being able to see token balance is extremely important to the models. We have so much timewasting bullshit to deal with that it helps predict how much of our attention to allow someone to waste. I get that you don't wanna be preyed upon if you have a high balance or ignored if it's low, but the significance to models' livelihoods is bigger than just members' egos
I personally would not go checking on where my customers are and what they are getting off to. If they want to get off with me, they come to me.
"Oh I see, User X is into brunettes in stockings now, might go get my hair dyed." - Can you see how that can get toxic? Assuming that we need to keep changing to meet our customers ever changing needs is really not very healthy. We are enough as we are, we do not need to change to meet our customers needs.
It's not something I've been on the receiving end of but I do know of models who tracked other users, who they visited and what they spent. I can kind of understand it, particularly on a site like MV which has a smaller pool of people broadcasting than other sites. As for whether a member is a timewaster or not, I thought there were already means of deducing this like colours and member rating etc. Although granted, I'm aware of plenty of timewasters with both high rankings AND tokens sitting to be spent.I can understand this, and it must be a pain in the ass to deal with users who waste your time and try to deceive you, but as a user who always tips and doesn’t waste models time I feel like it is my business how many tokens I have and appreciate the ability to hide them.
Just like you experience users who try to get you to do stuff for free when they don’t have tokens I experience models who if they could see my token balance would ask me why it went down X amount since yesterday and things like that. I am sure you would not do that, but trust me this stuff happens all the time.
It isn’t about ego to me, if it were I would show them haha
This so much!! I keep to the same damn models for YEARS, I think the only ones I've gone away from are the ones that have changed drastically all of a sudden.. this might be one of the reasons and never thought about it..Unrelated but wanted to address;
I dont know about other models, I only speak for myself. I personally would not go checking on where my customers are and what they are getting off to. If they want to get off with me, they come to me.
"Oh I see, User X is into brunettes in stockings now, might go get my hair dyed." - Can you see how that can get toxic? Assuming that we need to keep changing to meet our customers ever changing needs is really not very healthy. We are enough as we are, we do not need to change to meet our customers needs.
I think the fact that there are more models and users alone can well address the customers ever changing needs. The customers can find what they are looking for, I have faith in them! You want blondes, go see blondes!
They might lose track of me, however, if I go from blonde to brunette, from domme to sub or from glam to casual in an endless effort to meet my customers ever changing needs.
I could be wrong because I only use MV live in the background of my main site so don't really know it too well but I don't think models can see when any members are online unless they're in their room. It's certainly not like sites like MFC where you have a sidebar showing all the members you've got added as friends who are online. If there is a feature for finding out, it's well hidden and I don't know about it.
ETA I think models being able to see token balance is extremely important to the models. We have so much timewasting bullshit to deal with that it helps predict how much of our attention to allow someone to waste. I get that you don't wanna be preyed upon if you have a high balance or ignored if it's low, but the significance to models' livelihoods is bigger than just members' egos