Things Members Say That Make You Go "WTF?"

[Teagan]

Of course they do. You have 100% control over your body and who sticks what into it. But if your REASONING is the class someone belongs to, rather than the person's actual character or unique look and smell, it's VERY LIKELY bigotry.

If you are not physically attracted to a person you are not attracted. You can not call someone a bigot, because they have different preferences. I personally did not wake up one day and fill out a sheet to decide what I like, it just sort of happened as I got older.

Yeah, definition of bigot ' "one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance" and I don't think that choosing not to sleep with someone because of their looks qualifies as hatred or intolerance.

Again, I think in this day and age, people are too quick to call someone racist or a bigot, instead of just realizing people have preferences.

Agree, except I'm not referring to an individual's looks...but when someone takes the broad category of a group to be intolerant of an individual. And once again, if a person chooses to not sleep with someone, that's all they should say... "I'm not attracted to YOU." Their GROUP should be inconsequential in conversation. Nearly everyone has a least some bigotry...we live in a society that has huge segments that are openly bigoted. This leaks over into folks who try their best not to be, but no one's a robot.

I definitely see your point here. Its the difference in saying "Im not attracted to you, so im not working with you" to "Im not attracted to black guys, so i'm not working with them." One i feel is fine, the other is racist. One a preference about a specific person, the other excluding an entire race of people for their skin color alone. That is racism.
I feel though a pron star has every right to not be with a specific race if they choose to. Maybe the girl doesn't wanna do inter racial porn and get into that category of things. It may not be about racism for her. It may just be about her fans wants, or not wanting to be put in that box.

 

[rexcode]

The(y) don't see you as a person, they see you as a product [...]

Which would be bad enough without attempting to shoplift.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

Any guy from now on who asks me to private for a normal thing, then starts wasting my time by asking if I've ever *insert random stupid thing ei fisting bestiality etc here that I won't do* I'm going to respond "Nope, but your mom has I'm sure" I know it's immature I don't care. I hate them, and kinda want them to die. :angry4:

 

[Jupiter551]

(referring to only some pornstars who won't fuck out of their race in this post)
You don't have to be attracted to that race to fuck them. I put on camshows for men im not attracted to, only difference is, i dont care about their race.
Pornstars fuck people they aren't attracted to all the time. They'll fuck a 90yo man. They'll fuck a 400lb man. But as long as their white!!!!

Yeah you're right, but on the other hand a woman has the right to decide who or what goes into her body right? Her having to justify it seems beside the point.

I realise this is not a can of worms to be opened in this thread.

Absolutely. But I think Nordling said it best. If you feel the need to discriminate against a race, don't do porn. If I was only willing to perform for white guys in my room, camming would not be a suitable job for me.
Also, how is it possible to not be attracted to a race as a whole? They all have different body types, different facial features, different personalities, etc. Unless you've seen EVERY single person in the world from that race, how can you make that assumption that they are ALL unattractive??? Unless, you are, racist.

Mostly, or unless it brought out some guilt or fear from your childhood that meant it so you weren't turned on or...fuck I dunno. Just saying it might be possible. :dontknow: Personally, I will happily fuck any female humans regardless of family background

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Of course they do. You have 100% control over your body and who sticks what into it. But if your REASONING is the class someone belongs to, rather than the person's actual character or unique look and smell, it's VERY LIKELY bigotry.

If you are not physically attracted to a person you are not attracted. You can not call someone a bigot, because they have different preferences. I personally did not wake up one day and fill out a sheet to decide what I like, it just sort of happened as I got older.

Yeah, definition of bigot ' "one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance" and I don't think that choosing not to sleep with someone because of their looks qualifies as hatred or intolerance.

Again, I think in this day and age, people are too quick to call someone racist or a bigot, instead of just realizing people have preferences.

Agree, except I'm not referring to an individual's looks...but when someone takes the broad category of a group to be intolerant of an individual. And once again, if a person chooses to not sleep with someone, that's all they should say... "I'm not attracted to YOU." Their GROUP should be inconsequential in conversation. Nearly everyone has a least some bigotry...we live in a society that has huge segments that are openly bigoted. This leaks over into folks who try their best not to be, but no one's a robot.

I definitely see your point here. Its the difference in saying "Im not attracted to you, so im not working with you" to "Im not attracted to black guys, so i'm not working with them." One i feel is fine, the other is racist. One a preference about a specific person, the other excluding an entire race of people for their skin color alone. That is racism.

100%

 

[PlayboyMegan]

(referring to only some pornstars who won't fuck out of their race in this post)
You don't have to be attracted to that race to fuck them. I put on camshows for men im not attracted to, only difference is, i dont care about their race.
Pornstars fuck people they aren't attracted to all the time. They'll fuck a 90yo man. They'll fuck a 400lb man. But as long as their white!!!!

Yeah you're right, but on the other hand a woman has the right to decide who or what goes into her body right? Her having to justify it seems beside the point.

I realise this is not a can of worms to be opened in this thread.

Absolutely. But I think Nordling said it best. If you feel the need to discriminate against a race, don't do porn. If I was only willing to perform for white guys in my room, camming would not be a suitable job for me.
Also, how is it possible to not be attracted to a race as a whole? They all have different body types, different facial features, different personalities, etc. Unless you've seen EVERY single person in the world from that race, how can you make that assumption that they are ALL unattractive??? Unless, you are, racist.

Mostly, or unless it brought out some guilt or fear from your childhood that meant it so you weren't turned on or...fuck I dunno. Just saying it might be possible. :dontknow: Personally, I will happily fuck any female humans regardless of family background

Yea but being a pornstar, stripper, or camgirl doesn't mean you have to get turned on by all the guys.You think every guy I take to private turns me on? LOL!!!!!!!!
Pornstars have admitted to faking orgasms or working with people they hate. You should be able to choose who you work with, but not based off of race. Just based off of that individual.

 

[Jupiter551]

Yea but being a pornstar, stripper, or camgirl doesn't mean you have to get turned on by all the guys.You think every guy I take to private turns me on? LOL!!!!!!!!
Pornstars have admitted to faking orgasms or working with people they hate. You should be able to choose who you work with, but not based off of race. Just based off of that individual.

Yeah generally speaking I agree, in fact there's porn out there where the dude is hideous and fucks beautiful chicks - that's the 'schtick' of the website etc. Anyone with half a brain will notice porn actresses fuck pretty much anyone theyre paid to.

A lot of the interracial porn that I've seen though is pretty racist in its overtones. Ever notice how all the black dudes look like they're gangbangers? Or the pornstar using the "N" word at them during sex, or the fact it has to be the pristine, blonde white girl getting 'ravaged' by the rough black men. A lot of it is based on the concept of defilement, and that only becomes apparent when you realise how deeply rooted in psychological, systemic racism a large proportion of the 'fetish' is.

 

[Jupiter551]

OT: I'm still baffled by the conundrum of: is it racist for a pornstar to say she won't have sex with a particular race? (A lot of guys will claim it is racist). Or is it just her choice, her business and her body?

I don't particularly care one way or the other FYI, I just think it's an interesting debate. I lean toward the second theory though.

I don't think there's really any debate here... If a girl is simply not attracted to men of a certain race she's not racist, guys are just babies about it: story time! Please note I didn't hear the beginning of this conversation. I highly doubt this is how he opened.

black guy at coffee shop (talking to Girl A) "Hey baby girl, you gonna let me stuff my thick black dick inside your pussy and cum in you?"

Girl A(who is Asain): "I'm sorry... I find myself unattracted to men of your race. That's just my personal preference. My friend loves that, though." (Girl A motions over to Girl B who's waiting in line. She has a few extra pounds but I still think she was very pretty. But I think the guy thought Girl A meant my hot-as-a-supermodel coworker.)

Guy: oh, so that's what's up? (Continues making small talk. Girl B gets her order and goes over to Girl A) So when is your friend gonna take a break and come over? I live two minutes away, really.

Girl A: what? Ah, this is her, sir. (Motions to Girl B)

Guy: what the fuck? Why am I not good enough for you? Just let me cum inside you baby girl you'll love it (I'm pretty sure Girl A doesn't understand words like "cum" because she never slaps him)

Girl A: no thank you, sir. I truly am not interested.

Guy: what the fuck? You're just racist. Stupid cunt. You probably have gonnorhea (he said it really weirdly, I'm trying to reflect that here)

Girl A: I'm sorry?

Guy: Fuck off, racist. Go die in the gutter.



This conversation was one o my biggest "wtf just happened" moments while working at that coffee house.

Wow....that was a real conversation? holy shit hahaha, was girl B annoyed at all that girl A had tried to switch her into the hotseat? hahah

 

[LadyLuna]

on the topic of racist or not porn stars, I think this has to do with WHY they won't do the interracial stuff. If they won't because of their fan-base, not racist. If they won't because they don't like how racist the interracial porn is, not racist. If they won't because the plotlines of those sorts of films completely contradict what their image is based off of, not racist. If they won't because it means they'll have to work with a black man, racist.

On the subject of personal preferences, what I'm about to say may offend some people, so I apologize in advance. My intention is not to offend anyone, but that's impossible when we're talking about personal preferences.

For watching sex, the only time I like watching interracial is when it's two people who are obviously very in love. It's not because it's interracial that I like watching it, I just love watching people make love. But, for the most part, I prefer to see the two people have a somewhat similar skin color. I mean, within a few shades. Why? To me, it's really jarring to look at black skin next to white skin. It almost hurts my mind. It's not the people, I have the same problem looking at zebras, (though weirdly, not at white tigers...). I have the same problem when I see black and white next to each other in the center of the color wheel. It's not that I'm offended by it, or that I hate it, it's just that the contrast of seeing two opposites is such a distraction to me that I'm not capable of enjoying what I'm watching.

On the subject of what I find beautiful- it's not the color of their skin, it's the shape of their nose. And it's not just black people whose noses I find distracting. There are some white noses that just make me rule that person out. I know I'd spend all of my time staring at it trying to figure out what it would feel like to have a nose shaped like that. There are plenty of black men out there without that smooshed nose who I find very beautiful indeed. And honestly, I would sleep with one, because I'm not watching myself have sex with them, so I wouldn't have that issue of seeing the skin-on-skin be so... weird.

One bit of weirdness. I had a roommate from Cameroon in high school. I was... fascinated. Not because I thought she was a strange creature. Just because I didn't have much contact with people outside my own race before. And she had the nose thing going on, and I was completely enthralled with the fact that her snot was green. Not that it surprised me, but that it looked like neon green against her skin.

Talking about her was when I had that whole "My roommate is black, and very tall." "you don't say that, you say African-American." "But she's not American! She grew up in Cameroon!" "Well, African then." "But there's white Africans too!" conversation.

One last thing- people from different cultures smell different. It's probably to do with diet, cause her smell became more like mine by the end of the school year. But, well, it's not just different countries that have very different diets. Rich people, Middle class people, working poor, and poor people, each of those have different smells, because of how they eat. My roommate from Cameroon had a different smell than my roommate from Nepal did. My middle-class family has a different smell from my working-poor friends, and a different smell from my almost-rich family. But the smell of people from a different country is more different than the smell of people from a different economic class. Most people, I think, can't even tell the difference between economic classes by the smell (except the very rich and the homeless, but that has more to do with bathing and perfume than the actual body-odors). But the difference when it's a person from a different country is something that most people pick up on real quick. And what we smell affects us more than we realize. I think this has a lot to do with the origins of racism, and why, when people meet those from a different culture or country for the first time, they might react very badly.

Anyway, there's my candid thoughts on race and racism. Again, I apologize to anyone I've offended.

 

[Jupiter551]

I don't like watching 'interracial porn' as a genre, I think mostly because I find it so full of racist stereotypes that I cant actually enjoy what I'm watching.

I think it's necessary to make a distinction between two people of different ethnic backgrounds or whatever having sex, while technically interracial, is not the same as the genre "interracial porn" with awesome names like 'HELP! There's a black man in my mom' and other stupid racist tropes.

I can totally enjoy watching two people with different skin colours get it on, it's when it's 'farmer's daughter or pta mom banged by 10 dudes from south central' I'm not interested lol.

 

[UncleThursday]

I might be ignorant, but I always thought that when girls refused to do interracial it was because of the size of the penis they'd be fucking. Black porn stars are known for having MONSTROUS penises, and interracial porn generally seems to be about splitting apart a small vagina. I might refuse simply not wanting my pussy to be destroyed, or have to fake enjoyment when I'm actually being hurt.

IDK. Thats where I always thought it stemmed from, less than racial problems.

A lot of the interracial porn out there is like that, though. Especially the amateur interracial porn. They have the 6'+ tall black guys with the biggest dicks they can find (8"+ long, at least 3" wide) and pair them up with white/Asian/Latino girls who are between 4'10"-5' with super tight va jay jays. And all the descriptions basically say 'watch this girl gag and get split in half by monster dick' or something along those lines. And a lot of the time, they just get right to ramming the girls, not even letting them get used to the size. It's very exploitation oriented, but it can be hard to decide who is being exploited more... the tiny girl or the black guy (after all, it is designed to feed the stereotype of all black men have enormous cocks-- even if the entire production team and company is black).

In a way it's kind of like some of the amateur anal porn, where the guy is too busy wanting to fuck the girl's ass to let her ease into it and they just start pounding the girls to the point where tears are easily visible. HINT: If the girl doesn't really do anal, and your dick is bigger than her finger, she isn't going to be ready for you to start fucking her ass like a jackhammer and actually enjoy herself.

As to the racism part... can't it go multiple ways, though? There are black girls who only fuck white guys. There are white girls who only fuck black guys. Black guys who only fuck white girls. White guys who only fuck black girls. Etc. Does this make them racist? I don't think so. It's all preference, really. In those cases, the men and women just prefer the person of another race. The same for men and women who only fuck people of their own race.

Everyone has their preferences. I'm generally more attracted to white girls, overall. I do know some black girls I would bang at the drop of a hat, though. Same for Asian girls. But I also find half Asian half Caucasian girls to be extremely attractive; one of my best friends who is beautiful is half Korean half Irish. But, even so, you can find people from every race attractive. I think RubyRenegade is super hot, and she's Chinese, Japanese, Hawaiian and a little white, but if she gets linked in a lounge, some people are just 'I don't like Asian girls! Hidden!' Fox is attractive, as is Jo_Bunny, but I don't normally go for black girls. Does that make me racist? I don't think so. It just means I have a preference. But preferences aren't exclusionary in many people's cases.

 

[UncleThursday]

Even people in porn have a right to not have sex with people they find unattractive, they do not have to have sex with 400 pound 80 year old ugly people or anyone else. It is a just a job and they have the right to chose who they are with.

This is true. There are lots of girls in porn who won't fuck the 400 lb guy, or the 80 year old guy. Even when just breaking into the industry-- when girls are expected to do more, for less and with fewer complaints.

As many movies he's been in, and as many women that Ron Jeremy has fucked, there are TONS of female porn stars that simply refused to work with him based on his looks. Tons. Many of them just flat out state when asked if they would have worked with him in his heyday that the answer would still have been no.

If I was in porn, I'd probably get the same reaction. I'm overweight and hairy. So it's pretty easy for porn actresses to decide not to work with me if I was in the business. I'm not obese or anything, but I have a gut and I'm not George the Animal Steele hairy, but I have my fair share of body hair.

And just like Ron, I'd be OK if the actresses said they didn't want to do scenes with me. There's TONS of girls who don't find my body type attractive. It's just a fact of life.

 

[RoseCavilla]

OT: I'm still baffled by the conundrum of: is it racist for a pornstar to say she won't have sex with a particular race? (A lot of guys will claim it is racist). Or is it just her choice, her business and her body?

I don't particularly care one way or the other FYI, I just think it's an interesting debate. I lean toward the second theory though.

I don't think there's really any debate here... If a girl is simply not attracted to men of a certain race she's not racist, guys are just babies about it: story time! Please note I didn't hear the beginning of this conversation. I highly doubt this is how he opened.

black guy at coffee shop (talking to Girl A) "Hey baby girl, you gonna let me stuff my thick black dick inside your pussy and cum in you?"

Girl A(who is Asain): "I'm sorry... I find myself unattracted to men of your race. That's just my personal preference. My friend loves that, though." (Girl A motions over to Girl B who's waiting in line. She has a few extra pounds but I still think she was very pretty. But I think the guy thought Girl A meant my hot-as-a-supermodel coworker.)

Guy: oh, so that's what's up? (Continues making small talk. Girl B gets her order and goes over to Girl A) So when is your friend gonna take a break and come over? I live two minutes away, really.

Girl A: what? Ah, this is her, sir. (Motions to Girl B)

Guy: what the fuck? Why am I not good enough for you? Just let me cum inside you baby girl you'll love it (I'm pretty sure Girl A doesn't understand words like "cum" because she never slaps him)

Girl A: no thank you, sir. I truly am not interested.

Guy: what the fuck? You're just racist. Stupid cunt. You probably have gonnorhea (he said it really weirdly, I'm trying to reflect that here)

Girl A: I'm sorry?

Guy: Fuck off, racist. Go die in the gutter.



This conversation was one o my biggest "wtf just happened" moments while working at that coffee house.

Wow....that was a real conversation? holy shit hahaha, was girl B annoyed at all that girl A had tried to switch her into the hotseat? hahah

I would have been if I were her. But if Girl B was mad she hid it very well... And I highly doubt Girl A was trying to put her "in the hotseat"; I think that the language barrier left her thinking, "Oh, this boy is asking me out! I do not like him, but maybe my friend will."

I only wish this was the most bizarre thing that happened there :shock: Some things... Can never be unseen.

Seriously though, never EVER work in a NYC coffee shop. It's insane.

And I'm sorry, Megan. I didn't realise I was imposing on you and jupiter. Reading that conversation just made me think of when I worked there.

 

[ComicOzzie]

HotDamn6983: damn!! now i have a giant heart on!!

said unironically on Valentine's Day :lol:

 

[CharlieKat]

A basic the other night, that frequents my room and is generally a great conversationalist-

"I'll never be a premium because then the girls will only want me for my money. That's why I keep coming back. You like me for me."


Buhhhh, what?

 

[ComicOzzie]

A basic the other night, that frequents my room and is generally a great conversationalist-

"I'll never be a premium because then the girls will only want me for my money. That's why I keep coming back. You like me for me."


Buhhhh, what?

Nobody has ever liked a basic.

 

[RoseCavilla]

Apparently I'm a bitch because I won't give this guy my address. And this is after I told him the exact same thing in public chat when he asked where in NYC I am.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

OT: I'm still baffled by the conundrum of: is it racist for a pornstar to say she won't have sex with a particular race? (A lot of guys will claim it is racist). Or is it just her choice, her business and her body?

I don't particularly care one way or the other FYI, I just think it's an interesting debate. I lean toward the second theory though.

I don't think there's really any debate here... If a girl is simply not attracted to men of a certain race she's not racist, guys are just babies about it: story time! Please note I didn't hear the beginning of this conversation. I highly doubt this is how he opened.

black guy at coffee shop (talking to Girl A) "Hey baby girl, you gonna let me stuff my thick black dick inside your pussy and cum in you?"

Girl A(who is Asain): "I'm sorry... I find myself unattracted to men of your race. That's just my personal preference. My friend loves that, though." (Girl A motions over to Girl B who's waiting in line. She has a few extra pounds but I still think she was very pretty. But I think the guy thought Girl A meant my hot-as-a-supermodel coworker.)

Guy: oh, so that's what's up? (Continues making small talk. Girl B gets her order and goes over to Girl A) So when is your friend gonna take a break and come over? I live two minutes away, really.

Girl A: what? Ah, this is her, sir. (Motions to Girl B)

Guy: what the fuck? Why am I not good enough for you? Just let me cum inside you baby girl you'll love it (I'm pretty sure Girl A doesn't understand words like "cum" because she never slaps him)

Girl A: no thank you, sir. I truly am not interested.

Guy: what the fuck? You're just racist. Stupid cunt. You probably have gonnorhea (he said it really weirdly, I'm trying to reflect that here)

Girl A: I'm sorry?

Guy: Fuck off, racist. Go die in the gutter.



This conversation was one o my biggest "wtf just happened" moments while working at that coffee house.

Wow....that was a real conversation? holy shit hahaha, was girl B annoyed at all that girl A had tried to switch her into the hotseat? hahah

I would have been if I were her. But if Girl B was mad she hid it very well... And I highly doubt Girl A was trying to put her "in the hotseat"; I think that the language barrier left her thinking, "Oh, this boy is asking me out! I do not like him, but maybe my friend will."

I only wish this was the most bizarre thing that happened there :shock: Some things... Can never be unseen.

Seriously though, never EVER work in a NYC coffee shop. It's insane.

And I'm sorry, Megan. I didn't realise I was imposing on you and jupiter. Reading that conversation just made me think of when I worked there.

You weren't imposing. I just wanted to make a point that I think when it comes to a job it's much different than dating preferences. And again, it should be about an individual, not race as a whole. :thumbleft:

 

[LadyLuna]

member: hey u had a good day?
me: dunno yet, my day has just gotten started!
member: u had an enjoyable valantines?

Didn't I just answer that? considering today is Valentines?

 

[Jupiter551]

I think that the language barrier left her thinking, "Oh, this boy is asking me out! I do not like him, but maybe my friend will."

Yeah he wasn't asking her out he was most definitely asking to come in :lol:

 

[Jupiter551]

Everyone has their preferences. I'm generally more attracted to white girls, overall. I do know some black girls I would bang at the drop of a hat, though. Same for Asian girls. But I also find half Asian half Caucasian girls to be extremely attractive; one of my best friends who is beautiful is half Korean half Irish. But, even so, you can find people from every race attractive. I think RubyRenegade is super hot, and she's Chinese, Japanese, Hawaiian and a little white, but if she gets linked in a lounge, some people are just 'I don't like Asian girls! Hidden!' Fox is attractive, as is Jo_Bunny, but I don't normally go for black girls. Does that make me racist? I don't think so. It just means I have a preference. But preferences aren't exclusionary in many people's cases.

I agree, but to some extent as Megan said it's also a JOB we're talking about. If you're not taking a job because of it, it's a pretty strong preference and more like a rule :twocents-02cents:

 

[Jupiter551]

To stop threadjacking, I made this for the porn discussion: http://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=12180

 

[mynameisbob84]

i would melt my cook in you

:?

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Micklickr: You got better tips when you were a brunette

That's funny considering my ranking is the highest it's been and months and my camscore is the highest it has EVER been. :roll:

 

[DudeExtreme]

Micklickr: You got better tips when you were a brunette

That's funny considering my ranking is the highest it's been and months and my camscore is the highest it has EVER been. :roll:

I know I'm always happy no matter what your hair color has been.

 

[Anonymous]

member: hey u had a good day?
me: dunno yet, my day has just gotten started!
member: u had an enjoyable valantines?

Didn't I just answer that? considering today is Valentines?

That reminds me of a guy on MFC who comes into my room and asks me how I'm doing SEVERAL different ways.

Hey, fox. What's up?
So how u been?
What's goin' on with you?
What's new?

I just told you I'm good...damn! LOL.

 

[emptiedglass]

Was in a model's room this afternoon, and somehow people started discussing what level of nudity she was comfortable with. A few people thought she was non nude, until someone posted a screen cap supposedly taken from a private show. The girl was PISSED - and rightfully so. Finally he admitted he "might" have crossed a line by doing that.

I didn't click on the link myself, but am just amazed at the total lack of respect he showed the model by posting that in her room. I think the only reason she didn't ban him immediately was because she expected an apology. I hope she reported him to the site admins afterwards.

 

[Jupiter551]

It's called romance, bb.

 

[Anonymous]

A guy on Streamate:

"You're too nice to be on a site like this."

And when he tipped enough GOLD for a flash and video, I sent him a "not-so-nice-girl" dildo play video. :lol:

 

[LailaBaise]

It's called romance, bb.

I have a heart on for lovely_cath too. :love5: