The Public Cam Guy Thread (Male model stuff!)

[KerriBoy]

More and more dudes bored at home, wanking their dicks for free on sites in the guise of being "male cam models".

Sorry the male market is getting worse, though it's never been up to par with the female market.

Dudes will do it for attention.

A few chicks will do it for attention, but majority want (and can get) compensation for it because dudes are much more thirsty for watching girls do it than girls are for watching dudes do it.


It's growing, just in a different way it used to. If I recall you started doing cam stuff before it was even popular, so you have a different view of how it could be. Camming stuff is getting more and more popular in a mainstream way. So the supply and demand is different.

Exactly. Would a female cam model just want to cam for free? Do free cum shows cause they just love to cam? The male section is loaded with it, so most people realize why pay when their are models that are free.

Not sure where it is growing. I have read lot's of complaints on how traffic is pretty much slowed down, and is not like it use to be. CB seems to have lot's of bots, generated probably by studios, and promoters of certain models; in order to be on the first page all the time. Back in the day no one ever saw 5 or 6 figure room counts. It's insane. And how would that look if there were 100,000 people in one room chatting at the same time?

 

[KerriBoy]

Every year since I have started camming, people say that it's going down the tubes as an industry. Yet, every year I make more than I did the year before. I think it must be an anxious/ catastrophic mindset or something. Although I will acknowledge that I know nothing about the male cam world. I have only ever talked to one male cam model, in my life, in any kind of reasonable depth. And from what I have learned from him, being a male cam model sounds like its a completely different (and foreign to me) kettle of fish.

I do kinda wish more male models would share, and chat, because I would like to learn more about the male cam world, from various perspectives. Plus I think you guys would all benefit from each other's support. But that's me saying that from a female's perspective. ETA; And God forbid I tell any man what to do lol.

So anyways, technically, just saying, a model could stream from a tunnel. If they stayed near the entrance, and used the hours when the sun would be shining in.
This whole tunnel thing, has really grabbed my attention.
It's bringing Nietzsche to mind.

We should switch some time. You can try to be a male cam model and I'll work yours as a female. It will be an eye opener. I wish I was a female. From what has been said, it's easier than being a male cam model.

Camming from the entrance of a huge tunnel might actually generate lot's of traffic. As long as the back drop has some cool graffiti.

 

[MarieElise]

We should switch some time. You can try to be a male cam model and I'll work yours as a female. It will be an eye opener. I wish I was a female. From what has been said, it's easier than being a male cam model.

Camming from the entrance of a huge tunnel might actually generate lot's of traffic. As long as the back drop has some cool graffiti.

That is the same as what the other male model tells me, about everything hanging out in free. I don't understand why sites allow that. Presumably they lose a ton of money from that going on too? It also seems like enough other guys, that would be serious about making money, would report that/ tell on other "models" for that. So it would not even be that much work for the sites to start sending out warnings, and potential bans for that. I have heard that being a female cam model is a lot easier, and I do believe that.

Being a sex worker, overall, can be pretty tough. Emotionally, physically and mentally. We deserve adequate compensation.

Honestly, I would totally tune in to a livestream from a tunnel (if I were single, and did not feel guilty doing so). I imagine I might be in the minority, but who knows. However, I'm also the type that would get talking shows with no nudity, and all kinds of other stuff that isn't as super common. If I were a cam show buyer, I definitely would not even visit or favorite rooms where full nudity was going on in free chat. I would find that really off putting. I am sure there are others out there, like me too.

 

[KerriBoy]

That is the same as what the other male model tells me, about everything hanging out in free. I don't understand why sites allow that. Presumably they lose a ton of money from that going on too? It also seems like enough other guys, that would be serious about making money, would report that/ tell on other "models" for that. So it would not even be that much work for the sites to start sending out warnings, and potential bans for that. I have heard that being a female cam model is a lot easier, and I do believe that.

Being a sex worker, overall, can be pretty tough. Emotionally, physically and mentally. We deserve adequate compensation.

Honestly, I would totally tune in to a livestream from a tunnel (if I were single, and did not feel guilty doing so). I imagine I might be in the minority, but who knows. However, I'm also the type that would get talking shows with no nudity, and all kinds of other stuff that isn't as super common. If I were a cam show buyer, I definitely would not even visit or favorite rooms where full nudity was going on in free chat. I would find that really off putting. I am sure there are others out there, like me too.

I don't understand either. I actually emailed chaturbate about it, and it fell on deaf ears. I would feel guilty too if I had a significant other. Maybe I will travel to the Vegas tunnels and find Jenni and do a non nude chill hangs and chat on how the adult industry really is.

I forgot to wish everyone a HAppy 420 today too. I no longer partake. But I don't have a problem celebrating a plant that should be legal. Smoke it if you got it. Peace

 

[Nigerian Prince]

That is the same as what the other male model tells me, about everything hanging out in free. I don't understand why sites allow that.

Are you talking about models being nude in public on sites like streamate, or exhibitionist who don't cam for tips on CB?

 

[MarieElise]

Are you talking about models being nude in public on sites like streamate, or exhibitionist who don't cam for tips on CB?

I guess both, although I do not understand how CB works very well, and have never used it. I guess I don't understand the exhibitionist thing at all. I understand being an exhibitionist, I just don't understand being an exhibitionist on a site where folks are trying to make money. But specifically, the only site who's male section I have checked out was Streamate. I was really shocked what I saw going on, out in the open. It's likely I am searching for logic, in something that isn't logical tho.

ETA; That's usually the real problem behind most of my queries.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

I guess both, although I do not understand how CB works very well, and have never used it. I guess I don't understand the exhibitionist thing at all. I understand being an exhibitionist, I just don't understand being an exhibitionist on a site where folks are trying to make money. But specifically, the only site who's male section I have checked out was Streamate. I was really shocked what I saw going on, out in the open. It's likely I am searching for logic, in something that isn't logical tho.

ETA; That's usually the real problem behind most of my queries.

Ah I see. Well on CB there aren't any restrictions on what you can do in public vs private, and you will see plenty of girls who are fully nude in public as well. I can possibly understand on a site like streamate, because they might be trying to draw people to their room, though I can't say for sure. The way I see it, because of obvious difference in anatomy as well as differences in clothing, it's not as easy for males to advertise their bodies without being naked.

On CB some people just want others to look at their dicks I guess and I'd imagine it's for related reasons to why some guys send dick pics, and CB just happens to be a place where they can do it.

 

[MarieElise]

Ah I see. Well on CB there aren't any restrictions on what you can do in public vs private, and you will see plenty of girls who are fully nude in public chat as well. I can understand possibly on a site like streamate, because they might be trying to draw people to their room, though I can't say for sure. The way I see it, because of obvious difference between in anatomy as well as differences in clothing, it's not as easy for males to advertise their bodies without being naked.

On CB some people just want others to look at their dicks I guess and I'd imagine it's for related reasons to why some guys send dick pics, and CB just happens to be a place where they can do it.

Yeah, I'll be honest, other than before I started camming myself, I never spent time in anyone's room. It just so happened I developed a curiosity about what it is like for male cam models, and took a quick wander over there recently. I would probably be just as confused if I rambled around a bunch of other female models room's too. Good point about the body, I had not thought of that. Male models are likely not marketing to my type, they are probably marketing to a more immediately visual audience.

ETA; Although I guess in certain circumstances we can all be " more immediately visual" hehe

 

[KerriBoy]

Dam. I had no clue SM was that way now. They use to be some what legit. Except for the prerecorded pvts; That they used for the porn actresses. I would never join that site. IT's owned by Big Porno. THey have been buying up all the little sites for awhile now. They just recently purchased directsex.com....

 

[KerriBoy]

Dam. I had no clue SM was that way now. They use to be some what legit. Except for the prerecorded pvts; That they used for the porn actresses. I would never join that site. IT's owned by Big Porno. THey have been buying up all the little sites for awhile now. They just recently purchased directsex.com....

OMG i just checked it out and clicked on a room and redirected to an alternate CB site

 

[MarieElise]

Dam. I had no clue SM was that way now. They use to be some what legit. Except for the prerecorded pvts; That they used for the porn actresses. I would never join that site. IT's owned by Big Porno. THey have been buying up all the little sites for awhile now. They just recently purchased directsex.com....

Well, that was just one experience I had one time. Idk what it's like all of the time/ the majority of the time. Maybe the day I wandered over into male, was just a hormone laden day, where everyone happened to be doing wild shit. Or shit that I would label wild, from my own perspective and biases.

 

[KerriBoy]

Well, that was just one experience I had one time. Idk what it's like all of the time/ the majority of the time. Maybe the day I wandered over into male, was just a hormone laden day, where everyone happened to be doing wild shit. Or shit that I would label wild, from my own perspective and biases.

Could be. Plus they use a lot of famous porn star pics on their site. I think I just saw Lexi Belle.... ANd she cams on camsoda.

 

[KerriBoy]

Just put in a search and came up with this interesting thread read on chaturbate, and the owner of the site Zimmerman.

Stay with Chaturbate.com or switch to other?

Hello, I'm working with Chaturbate and have some good stats, but today i've read some bad comment about them, so i want to know : should i begin with them, or switch to other? I hear that they do not pay for aff, is it true? Is there any member of Chaturbate in our forum? If yes, please let...

www.blackhatworld.com

 

[KerriBoy]

I think I am going to apply for this job, and see what they say, lol....

Multi Media LLC

We are a tech company that works on live video streaming & chat platforms for millions of people worldwide, including, but not limited to the adult industry. With over 600million visitors a month, we own one of the fastest-growing sites of its kind.

chaturbate.com

If they don't hire me. I'm joining the Amish Mafia

 

[Primaltime]

Oh Holy fucking shit God damn! Um, I'm derailed.

I now have to leave this thread, or I'm gonna end up in the confessional again.
My abilities to think clear and communicate in any kind of sensible, intellectual fashion, just went TF out the window. God damnit, just when I thought I was getting somewhere.

2 of you..are talking to me... 2 hot male models... about men. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm in over my head. I can't handle this. Fuses blown.

Lol, well go if you must, but don't worry: You're not in over your head at all. Everyone here is a sexy beast, yourself included. We are just here for info, and to share experiences and learn from eachother.

 

[Primaltime]

And I do have to say, based on your image in your avatar, you probably have a better physique the 99% of the male “models” that post here on the forum asking about traffic. See you probably have a better time than most of them. Thanks for chiming in.

(I say models in quotes because let’s face it, majority of dudes who come on here saying that their male models are just hobby wiener wankers trying to pretend that they’re actually professional models in the Cam world.)

Based on my experience in checking out other male models, I do quite a bit better than most of them, for a variety of reasons. Physique is definitely one, communication the other. So many of them just hang a big piece of meat there to feel good about it, and say/do little to nothing while they wait for tips. Not a great strategy.

You're right about the large number of men that are basically cam hobbyists. Though on some level, all men involved are. If you're a solo male, you have to be doing this at least in part for your own enjoyment, because the sad truth is you're unlikely to make a particularly great living at it. Not a complaint or anything, it's just a raw numbers game, our audience pool is limited and our tipper pool even more so. So while I do enjoy/partially rely on it for income, another big part of it, for me at least, is also satisfying my exhibitionist streak.

 

[MarieElise]

So are there many women that buy shows with male cam models? Like if you guys had to ballpark a percentage of how many of your privates shows you do with women, what would you guess?

ETA; If that is something you do. It dawned on me that some male models may not want shows with women, or be willing to do that. I have not done very many with women, who were not dudes pretending to be women. However, I have done a few.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

So are there many women that buy shows with male cam models? Like if you guys had to ballpark a percentage of how many of your privates shows you do with women, what would you guess?

ETA; If that is something you do. It dawned on me that some male models may not want shows with women, or be willing to do that. I have not done very many with women, who were not dudes pretending to be women. However, I have done a few.

Chaturbate is somewhat different as private shows don't contribute as high a % of earnings as a private based site like streamate would, granted there is a lot of variation from model to model where their earnings come from. It's hard to ballpark what the breakdown is because the gender of any viewer isn't always obvious. I'd say at least 95% of my earnings come from men. I think the majority of models would be ok with having a larger female audience, especially if it let to more tips.

 

[Primaltime]

So are there many women that buy shows with male cam models? Like if you guys had to ballpark a percentage of how many of your privates shows you do with women, what would you guess?

ETA; If that is something you do. It dawned on me that some male models may not want shows with women, or be willing to do that. I have not done very many with women, who were not dudes pretending to be women. However, I have done a few.

Personally, I don't even do privates. They're room killers. For some models they structure their shows around them and that works for them. But for me, the way I structure my shows, I want as many people there at the climax as I can get, and if I go to private I lose all but one of them and have to start over. So for me, not super worth it, considering how hard we have to compete for them in the first place.

Were I to do them, I'd be happy to do them for men or women. I'm heteroflexible so it's all fun to me. As far as viewers/tippers, it's 85-90% men at any given time. There's obviously just a lot less women watching cams than men. I could only offer a few guesses as to why.

 

[MarieElise]

Interesting. If I were wealthy and single, or wealthy and in an unhappy relationship, or wealthy and in an open sexual relationship, I would DEFINITELY be visiting Male cam models on the REGULAR. Sounds like that isn't super common. I imagined all these rich straight women, indulging their fantasies, and exploring their untapped sexual sides. Apparently that isn't happening. Interesting. Maybe it will happen in time.

Thanks for indulging my curiosity guys. Curiosity killed the cat...satisfaction brought it back

 

[Marceline]

I'd imagine it'd be much harder (no pun intended) for a male model to be a primarily private based model. I make a fair amount of futa and make me bi type of content and have a sizable bisexual/bi-curious fanbase and from everyone I've talked to their biggest thing is to see a lot of cum. I'm going to guess the majority of members who do privates with male models are looking to see an orgasm and noticeable ejaculation. Afterwards there'd be the refractory period, depending on the model, and also less cum the following times, again, depending on the model. Basically, unless these members are looking for fetish, non masturbating shows, there'd only be so many times a male model can physically do privates, especially compared to their female counterparts. It seems like it'd be much more lucrative to build up a room and just have one huge cumshow, whether in public or a group/password show.

But, I'm not a dude, so I could be totally off base.

 

[Primaltime]

I'd imagine it'd be much harder (no pun intended) for a male model to be a primarily private based model. I make a fair amount of futa and make me bi type of content and have a sizable bisexual/bi-curious fanbase and from everyone I've talked to their biggest thing is to see a lot of cum. I'm going to guess the majority of members who do privates with male models are looking to see an orgasm and noticeable ejaculation. Afterwards there'd be the refractory period, depending on the model, and also less cum the following times, again, depending on the model. Basically, unless these members are looking for fetish, non masturbating shows, there'd only be so many times a male model can physically do privates, especially compared to their female counterparts. It seems like it'd be much more lucrative to build up a room and just have one huge cumshow, whether in public or a group/password show.

But, I'm not a dude, so I could be totally off base.

You are 100% correct. One of the biggest disadvantages we have is we can't really fake an orgasm. I mean, we can, but it's going to be pretty obvious. The problem is, of course, that although people show up to see muscles and cocks etc., the vast majority of them are there for one thing: To see you blow a big load. I don't use goals in my shows, but for guys that do it presents a significant problem. You can set other goals for things like "Get naked", "Stroke cock" etc, but they can all just go to a room where someone is already at that step and you could be sitting there for hours trying to hit goals towards the big one.

So with the only real ace in your sleeve being the un-fakeable cumshow, it kind of limits your options, especially for privates. Some guys want to roleplay, some guys want specific fetish stuff, but they ALL want to see you cum. Just one more reason I avoid privates.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

from everyone I've talked to their biggest thing is to see a lot of cum. I'm going to guess the majority of members who do privates with male models are looking to see an orgasm and noticeable ejaculation. Afterwards there'd be the refractory period, depending on the model, and also less cum the following times, again, depending on the model.

That true for the most part, which limits what guys can do. Though the majority of people who have taken me private were looking for a cumshow, I'd say around 10-15% of mine it wasn't a requirement. In my case I can do at least I can usually still do a public cumshow after doing one in private, but it's certainly a challenge to revive the room. I do however make more on privates than I ever have in public so I take them anyways. Better to take a pvt at 60-90 tks/min with spies on top where I'm guaranteed to make money, than for me to sit around in public hoping that I have a good day.

Ultimately I think ticket shows are the way to go if the audience is there and I find is one of the more consistent ways to get non tippers to tip.

Edit: Forgot to mention some people like to schedule pvts in advance, so that's usually nice since I can get on, do the pvt, and then stick around for a short while to see how things are looking and decide weather to stay on for more tips or to log off knowing I made a decent amount.

 

[KerriBoy]

So are there many women that buy shows with male cam models? Like if you guys had to ballpark a percentage of how many of your privates shows you do with women, what would you guess?

ETA; If that is something you do. It dawned on me that some male models may not want shows with women, or be willing to do that. I have not done very many with women, who were not dudes pretending to be women. However, I have done a few.

Live Jasmin where I first started, is mainly privates. And I made a decent amount on there (Not enough to make a good living); for being a straight male model.

It all depends on how we market our self's. If you say you are strickly straight, you will evently end up with mostly girls in your room. But there is no where near the amount of girls watching cams as guys do. It will take awhile to gain followers/friends.

But, you will get the occasional gay guy or bi guy that wants to see if they can make you curious (Gay for Pay). Or the gay guy that just likes straights. I don't have a problem with that. Almost every friend/member I have met, was always courteous and respected my boundaries.

 

[KerriBoy]

That true for the most part, which limits what guys can do. Though the majority of people who have taken me private were looking for a cumshow, I'd say around 10-15% of mine it wasn't a requirement. In my case I can do at least I can usually still do a public cumshow after doing one in private, but it's certainly a challenge to revive the room. I do however make more on privates than I ever have in public so I take them anyways. Better to take a pvt at 60-90 tks/min with spies on top where I'm guaranteed to make money, than for me to sit around in public hoping that I have a good day.

Ultimately I think ticket shows are the way to go if the audience is there and I find is one of the more consistent ways to get non tippers to tip.

Edit: Forgot to mention some people like to schedule pvts in advance, so that's usually nice since I can get on, do the pvt, and then stick around for a short while to see how things are looking and decide weather to stay on for more tips or to log off knowing I made a decent amount.

So, True. We are not robots people. We are only humans. And trying to get a guy to make his honey drip on command is a hard thing to do. Unless you are professional bee keeper

 

[Garygoldenballs]

I think the problem itself is not "being able to cum multiple times". I can... just don't want to. When I do it too many times, I:

1. Feel like shit, no motivation etc during the day
2. Don't have enough libido to enjoy my sex life with gfs etc

So it's a learning process to find the right ratio for the prices to:
-make enough money
-not deplete myself too much

I think every other dude will agree, right?

For the ones who have prostate orgasms, is that any different? Does it allow your libido to stay high after the shows? I've heard there is no refractory period

 

[Nigerian Prince]

I think the problem itself is not "being able to cum multiple times". I can... just don't want to. When I do it too many times, I:

1. Feel like shit, no motivation etc during the day
2. Don't have enough libido to enjoy my sex life with gfs etc

So it's a learning process to find the right ratio for the prices to:
-make enough money
-not deplete myself too much

I think every other dude will agree, right?

For me it just hurts my dick sometimes tbh, just feels like too much blood pressure. Not really an issue for me now since I don't put in as many hours as before. Im more likely now to just log off sooner now as well of I've made a decent amount, instead of trying to push things longer than it's worth.

 

[Luminus55]

Just wanted to say thank you to everyone that contributed to this thread, a lot of very useful information. Thanks.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

So time for a mini-rant about ManyVids.....

This shit is so confusing, and I can't for the life of me understand who designed this site. First of all if you have to choose between content type, but if you're a straight male making solo content it's not entirely clear which category to choose. And on top of that your content won't show up on MV Gay Boys (despite what support told me months ago), and you can't access that section through the site. I have to open a private tab and do a google search for it....

 

[AmberCutie]

So time for a mini-rant about ManyVids.....
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This shit is so confusing, and I can't for the life of me understand who designed this site. First of all if you have to choose between content type, but if you're a straight male making solo content it's not entirely clear which category to choose. And on top of that your content won't show up on MV Gay Boys (despite what support told me months ago), and you can't access that section through the site. I have to open a private tab and do a google search for it....

You can’t categorize your content with multiple options!?! WTF MV?