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I'm not going to go into my life story on a public forum. Let's just say I don't have the money to do so at this time. Will that change in the future months or years possibly or possibly not. So that goes back to the point about the grass. Why burn down all the grass? Wouldn't you like to be friendly to the grass so down the road the grass is still around to lay on and enjoy.

Members aren't grass... Like I said, it's not elitist or morally wrong to deny a particular form of entertainment (ie not necessary to live, such as water/basic food/etc) to those who can't afford it. Essentially what you're saying is that you can't afford the service but continue to take it anyway. That is what we call freeloading, and is generally frowned upon in most cam rooms
 
That's the point. Who cares who contributes which day or which show. That hold up never made sense to me. You made the goal and you should be happy. If it was 4 people or 8 people. A lot of girls will give incentives to guys for new tippers. Most of the time it's a video or video package. But we start making these assumptions again. You don't know why someone does or doesn't tip you. We all can't be Boris picking out which cam girl we want to have.

I'm about to hit you with some hard truths here.

Why does it matter? Well because I know that some of us models are actually real people...with real hearts and with real friends in our room. It's very frustrating to see the same members having to spend money night after night when they SHOULD BE able to take nights off from paying.

We aren't "making assumptions". We just decide that we will not provide our services for free to someone.

Would you continue to show up at work if you were not getting paid? If you complained and someone said "well you don't know your companies financial situation...you can't just assume that they are wrong for not paying you!" Get out of here.

Are you really arguing that we are wrong for not providing a service for free to someone? Do you have this same attitude in your daily life?

You can really argue it any way you want to...but do you know what every woman reading your replies thinks? That you are one of those guys the one who thinks he is entitled to a woman's body, porn and services. The one who doesn't value that this is an actual job. We are entertainers. None of us women would be shaking our ass on the internet if we were not being paid to do so. Because as much as some women do like men we aren't just on this earth for your entertainment. If you want us to entertain you...you need to pay. Will we occasionally entertain for free...sure. But on nights when we see the same people paying for the show for everyone else we may decide that on that night you can't see us for free...at the cost of other members.

That shouldn't make anyone UPSET. That should put it into perspective if anything..."Wow...I'm kind of a douche...I watch this chick entertain me for free every day. I can afford cable. I can afford my morning coffee. I can afford to go out with friends. But I can't afford to spend $1.99 on 10 tokens for someone who entertains me EVERY NIGHT." If that isn't your reaction..if your reaction is that I'm wrong for banning someone like that then GREAT! That means I made the RIGHT decision banning that person because it means they are a douche.

You may not think we care where the tokens are coming from. You may have the attitude of "Why even ban anyone she already made count down and got paid. Just do the show!". We aren't banning for US. We are banning on behalf of the guys that pay and continue to pay. It's not fair to them. There is no way in the real world you would be okay with someone else getting a service for free every day that you pay for. No. Way.
 
Maybe because you're not a cam model so you're having a slightly difficult time seeing things from our perspective.




Burn it down! You're trying to enjoy a service that you didn't pay for at all. You don't deserve to consume that service.

Burn it the fuck down.
Right. Like dude. No offense. You are the muddy yellow grass...you aren't the green lush grass. You can go. No one will miss that grass.
 
But that's still different. It's still a place you have to pay to enter. MFC you don't have to pay to enter. You pay to get what you want. Maybe more like ordering off the secret menu?

No because you pay to enter all those places. You should maybe you will get a free popcorn. If not slip in the backdoor when the usher is not looking. ;)
Uh yeah. That's the point. If you don't pay to watch the show you get banned and can't watch the show. Lol. Thank you for finally getting it.
 
I'm about to hit you with some hard truths here.

Why does it matter? Well because I know that some of us models are actually real people...with real hearts and with real friends in our room. It's very frustrating to see the same members having to spend money night after night when they SHOULD BE able to take nights off from paying.

We aren't "making assumptions". We just decide that we will not provide our services for free to someone.

Would you continue to show up at work if you were not getting paid? If you complained and someone said "well you don't know your companies financial situation...you can't just assume that they are wrong for not paying you!" Get out of here.

Are you really arguing that we are wrong for not providing a service for free to someone? Do you have this same attitude in your daily life?

You can really argue it any way you want to...but do you know what every woman reading your replies thinks? That you are one of those guys the one who thinks he is entitled to a woman's body, porn and services. The one who doesn't value that this is an actual job. We are entertainers. None of us women would be shaking our ass on the internet if we were not being paid to do so. Because as much as some women do like men we aren't just on this earth for your entertainment. If you want us to entertain you...you need to pay. Will we occasionally entertain for free...sure. But on nights when we see the same people paying for the show for everyone else we may decide that on that night you can't see us for free...at the cost of other members.

That shouldn't make anyone UPSET. That should put it into perspective if anything..."Wow...I'm kind of a douche...I watch this chick entertain me for free every day. I can afford cable. I can afford my morning coffee. I can afford to go out with friends. But I can't afford to spend $1.99 on 10 tokens for someone who entertains me EVERY NIGHT." If that isn't your reaction..if your reaction is that I'm wrong for banning someone like that then GREAT! That means I made the RIGHT decision banning that person because it means they are a douche.

You may not think we care where the tokens are coming from. You may have the attitude of "Why even ban anyone she already made count down and got paid. Just do the show!". We aren't banning for US. We are banning on behalf of the guys that pay and continue to pay. It's not fair to them. There is no way in the real world you would be okay with someone else getting a service for free every day that you pay for. No. Way.


Honestly I don't really want to get into the whole job debate. That's just a whole can of worms. We already got enough venom flying around. I thought we could have a thought out conversation but most do not want that.
 
Please keep in mind that members are not entitled to anything when they enter a girl's chat room. Yes, it's free to enter, but to get certain things, even the right to stay or speak in the room, you need to be a pay. Every girl is different in how much or how often a person has to pay to keep the privilege of remaining in the room. It is not anyone's business to decide this other than her.

The absolute best feeling and successful cam sessions are ones in which many many people chip in during the time a cam girl has spent on cam. When 100 people chip in, there aren't just 1 or 2 people who feel they have carried the room the whole time. Sure, if only 2 people pay the girl's goal, she still makes it, but those couple of people may feel bitter and not return much if at all. So the cam girl has that weight on her mind. I guarantee you a cam girl has a more free and light spirited time on cam knowing a whole lot of folks chipped in than when 100s of guys freeload on a show that 1 generous person paid for.

So make or cut down all the analogies you like, but we are all just trying to tell you that sitting back and watching for free is not a right. Enjoy it in places that you can find it and don't feel entitled to anything if you aren't allowed to remain in a room without tipping.
 
What CrazyCatLady brought up. I already have enough hate, down votes and attacks going on that I don't really feel like taking on that topic.

What did she bring up? I want you to clarify what you meant by that.

What does, (your words) "The whole job debate" mean?

What is there to potentially debate about in regards to jobs?

I would really like to know.
 
As much as MFC is like a restaurant and a park and a movie theatre, it's mostly like a cam site. A very specific cam site that derives most of its traffic from its advertising, which promotes the idea that members are free to watch cam girls all day and all night without paying a penny. As annoying as it may be for models, if a member wants to watch free shows all day, he can. In fact, that's specifically what MFC's marketing told him to do. And without that marketing, MFC's traffic, and thus the amount of money being spent on MFC models would be a fraction of what it is today.

The flipside of that coin (token?) is that MFC models have the luxury of running their room any way they please. They have the right to ban any member for any reason at any time. If a member isn't tipping them, they have no obligation to let that member watch them for another second.

This seems like a pretty fair trade to me. If you're a model and you want to ban a basic or even a premium because they've never tipped, you can. Just be mindful that they're technically doing nothing wrong and are a consequence of MFC's traffic being as high as it is, which benefits you directly. If you're a member and want to watch free shows all day, you can. Just be mindful that no model is obligated to let you watch her for free and if every member shared your attitude, you'd be freeloading in an empty room right now, staring at a white screen, alone.
 
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Whining about how unfair you think something is isn't going to change it. Our business model doesn't require us to kiss everybody's ass, and that's a huge perk of this job. Too, we really don't think of you much after we ban you. We move on quick because that's what you need to do to entertain successfully. I can guarantee that the model who banned you has forgotten all about you. But you're obsessed.

Life isn't fair, man. Quit dwelling, get over it, and move on. 4 pages justifying your shitty behavior? You're not entitled to free shit, and no matter how "free" you think somebody is, somebody is always paying. The "free" part of MyFreeCams is entering a room for free. It doesn't mean you get to stay there indefinitely no matter what. MyFreeCamsNoMatterHowMuchAModelDislikesYouOrDoesntWantYouAround.com was too hard to fit on the banner.

Move on, dude. You're crying over spilled milk that was mopped up two weeks ago.
 
What CrazyCatLady brought up. I already have enough hate, down votes and attacks going on that I don't really feel like taking on that topic. But it's not what Amber just said. :wideyed:
I brought up that your attitude implies that you do not understand that this is our job. We are not paid by MFC simply for showing up. You do not pay simply to be there watching. Therefor we have a right to charge you to watch...because this is our room and our job.
 
As much as MFC is like a restaurant and a park and a movie theatre, it's mostly like a cam site. A very specific cam site that derives most of its traffic from its advertising, which promotes the idea that members are free to watch cam girls all day and all night without paying a penny. As annoying as it may be for models, if a member wants to watch free shows all day, he can. In fact, that's specifically what MFC's marketing told him to do. And without that marketing, MFC's traffic, and thus the amount of money being spent on MFC models would be a fraction of what it is today.

The flipside of that coin (token?) is that MFC models have the luxury of running their room any way they please. They have the right to ban any member for any reason at any time. If a member isn't tipping them, they have no obligation to let that member watch them for another second.

This seems like a pretty fair trade to me. If you're a model and you want to ban a basic or even a premium because they've never tipped, you can. Just be mindful that they're technically doing nothing wrong and are a consequence of MFC's traffic being as high as it is, which benefits you directly. If you're a member and want to watch free shows all day, you can. Just be mindful that no model is obligated to let you watch her for free and if every member shared your attitude, you'd be freeloading in an empty room right now, staring at a white screen, alone.
FANTASTIC post... I'm sharing this on Twitter.
 
I brought up that your attitude implies that you do not understand that this is our job. We are not paid by MFC simply for showing up. You do not pay simply to be there watching. Therefor we have a right to charge you to watch...because this is our room and our job.

I don't think that was it. But honestly I don't feel like i'm obligated explain to her a view point when all she has done since she entered the thread was attack. While adding nothing to the conversation.
 
You may not think we care where the tokens are coming from. You may have the attitude of "Why even ban anyone she already made count down and got paid. Just do the show!". We aren't banning for US. We are banning on behalf of the guys that pay and continue to pay. It's not fair to them. There is no way in the real world you would be okay with someone else getting a service for free every day that you pay for. No. Way.

As a member who tips almost every time I log into MFC, thank you for this. I have paid a lot more tokens than some guys, but still hate logging in when I have no tokens to contribute. It drives me crazy.
 
To be fair, I think a lot of us are pretty curious to know what you meant by "the job debate."

Because without any clarification, it seems like what Amber said was spot on.

And if that's not the case, I doubt you'd want us assuming you don't believe sex work (specifically caming) is a valid job. But that really seems to be what you were saying. Especially after the clarification CrazyCatLady added.
 
I'm not going to go into my life story on a public forum. Let's just say I don't have the money to do so at this time. Will that change in the future months or years possibly or possibly not.

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Can someone refresh my memory on what criteria you need to meet in order to have the 'smaller token packages' available to you? I've always thought it's awesome that MFC gives you so many token package options. I don't know of any other cam site that will actually let you buy additional tokens/credits for as low as $1.49. But I remember someone saying that these smaller token packages aren't available to all of the MFC premiums?
 
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Can someone refresh my memory on what criteria you need to meet in order to have the 'smaller token packages' available to you? I've always thought it's awesome that MFC gives you so many token package options. I don't know of any other cam site that will actually let you buy additional tokens/credits for as low as $1.49. But I remember someone saying that these smaller token packages aren't available to all of the MFC premiums?

Half tokens for pennies available?
 
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Telling me i'm trolling when I was just responding to his private message to me. That tells me they are not reading the thread. So why should I respond with thoughtful comments when I will just be attacked in the end? Like this Poison Ivy girl she came in with nothing but hate. But now wants me to expand on a topic that I didn't even bring up. Like really it's that important so you can tell me off a little more? So have at it. My over romanticized hopes that it's a means to a end. You can tell me i'm foolish or naïve or whatever you wish. But that's what I meant.
 
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Yeah and you see what happens two girls attack me for just responding to let you know lol.
Dude, nobody attacked you. You responded to a PRIVATE message on the public thread completely out of context in a way that made it appear as if you were being sarcastically rudein response to another post because what you were actually responding to was A PRIVATE MESSAGE AND THUS NO ONE ELSE CAN SEE IT. People responded to what appeared to be you being a jerk by rating your post, because you don't know how to use the internet.

/attack har har.
p.s this is very similar to the last time to you posted a bunch a couple years ago. You're really fond of accusing people of attacking you for simply disagreeing or stating personal points or facts.

Every bit of your personality you've shown on this forum has been ugly, insulting to both members and models and overly dramatic. Even if you tipped me 1000 tokens a day I can guarantee you would end up on my ban list if this is any representation of the type of person you are in a chat room.

Lighten up and move on man, go be nice to the world because it will make your life better.
 
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