Reality check

[Mfcalana]

I get to work from home being creative and embrace my sexuality and have unlimited earning potential. Sounds like a great life if you ask me. Haters gonna hate..


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100% doesn't get any better. Where else do you have such earning potential and time freedom together? Its the real deal. Know the risk and own it. If people from my home town find out, that'll give them something to gossip about for a week then they will be over it and move to something else. What else are they gonna do about it?

 

[babydollmitsy]

This thread helps me a lot despite being "scary" feeling. Reality can be scary, and you take a lot of risks going into the sex industry. But I think a lot of the social ones aren't really "risks" if you're surrounded by good people. Obviously you can't control how your family would feel, but you can control what friends you have and so on. I enjoy my job a lot and am proud of my accomplishments. I recently told family as well as close friends and it went as well as I could have hoped. I'm aiming to be even more transparent about it in the future. For example, I recently made a new friend and I told her right from the beginning what my job is. Felt so good!!

 

[Ai_Senpai]

I’d just use it as advertising! I’ve got my twitter name up in the background most of the time and I’m hoping to get a faster laptop so I can use obs to “watermark” everything and advertise that way too.
Friends and family already know what I do so it’s no big deal for me xx

 

[Miawallacexxx]

I’d just use it as advertising! I’ve got my twitter name up in the background most of the time and I’m hoping to get a faster laptop so I can use obs to “watermark” everything and advertise that way too.
Friends and family already know what I do so it’s no big deal for me xx

Came here to say the same thing!!!
Free advertisement baby! Marketing isn't free and that's one of the amazing benefits of online sex work, it basically markets itself! I get excited when someone screenshots or gifs a part of my public show and posts to twitter, etc... wouldn't be as happy about the sharing of any purchased photosets or video content tho, just because that would be taking away from my hard work!

 

[Miawallacexxx]

I’m hoping to get a faster laptop so I can use obs to “watermark” everything and advertise that way too.

Also, I just got a new laptop from bestbuy, it was only $215 after tax!!! It was open box in excellent condition, and instead of a hard drive, it has a solid state drive so it's supposed to be really fast. But has less storage space bc no hardrive. But that's ok, bc I'll store my content on Dropbox and that will also be a way I can offer all my content to people who are in fanclubs, etc. If you're interested in the link to the laptop I got, let me know and I'll post it here!

 

[JazminJoy]

I can't believe this post was written almost a decade ago! I had mixed feelings when I first discovered my nude shows online (only after typing in my username + "sex"), but I've decided to own it instead. I was naive to think I'd be the exception to internet piracy, but hey, I take it as a compliment now. Who's to turn down a little bit of free advertising?

 

[AmberCutie]

I can't believe this post was written almost a decade ago! I had mixed feelings when I first discovered my nude shows online (only after typing in my username + "sex"), but I've decided to own it instead. I was naive to think I'd be the exception to internet piracy, but hey, I take it as a compliment now. Who's to turn down a little bit of free advertising?

It's a great mindset to have vs. constantly stressing and using up valuable time and resources chasing it down to try and get it removed. My stuff has been plastered over sites since I started a decade ago and it didn't stop me from making fantastic money on MFC and in video sales, plus I've had people sign up for MFC and purchase content from me after having found me on tube sites.

And now I have the benefit of being paid by PornHub on their model payment program from all the hundreds of videos people capped and posted of me there over the years. I've racked in over $10k in retroactive ad pay from those videos after I claimed them all on my own verified PH pornstar profile.

 

[Lelo1]

I've racked in over $10k in retroactive ad pay from those videos after I claimed them all on my own verified PH pornstar profile.

10k!

I wonder if you could get payouts from other similar adult video sites.
I mean xvideo has a content partner program. Is it as simple as create an account, claim your videos, get a payout?
I'm just asking because your videos have collected 32,144,300+ views on xvideos

 

[AmberCutie]

10k!

I wonder if you could get payouts from other similar adult video sites.
I mean xvideo has a content partner program. Is it as simple as create an account, claim your videos, get a payout?
I'm just asking because your videos have collected 32,144,300+ views on xvideos

Other sites I am not so trustworthy of with my banking and personal info. If you’ve read the horror stories bout hamster you might understand. But it’s a “pick your battles” type of scenario. I had a lot on PH so it was worth the effort to verify there, and I’d heard enough good things about their program to trust them.

I really don’t know enough about xvideos program to know if it’s worth it.

 

[Lelo1]

Other sites I am not so trustworthy of with my banking and personal info. If you’ve read the horror stories bout hamster you might understand. But it’s a “pick your battles” type of scenario. I had a lot on PH so it was worth the effort to verify there, and I’d heard enough good things about their program to trust them.

I really don’t know enough about xvideos program to know if it’s worth it.

blackhatworld lists 3 USD per 5k views. If that's true, then ( 32,144,300 views / 5,000 ) * 3 USD = 19,286 USD. But I really don't know how actuate that number is. And if there any conditions that would effect pay per view. Or if they do retroactive payouts.

stripperweb has a thread from 2018, Sam38g might be able to give you more accurate info. I think her twitter is sam38g. Fromher post on stripperweb.
"I make decent money on Xvideos, it is worth it to me. Have about 100 vids on it but at least 20 are cam shows men had recorded & posted without my permission. I had those moved to my account which is easy & now they make me money.

Actually I make more on Xvideos than I do ManyVids every month. "

 

[Ravenamor86]

I just posted a thread about bot sites, and how to handle them. I don't mind it being there (one of my kinks) I just don't want someone else to profit off of me. I try to look at it as free marketing for me, I just don't know how to or what to advertise.

 

[ElaySmith]

blackhatworld lists 3 USD per 5k views. If that's true, then ( 32,144,300 views / 5,000 ) * 3 USD = 19,286 USD. But I really don't know how actuate that number is. And if there any conditions that would effect pay per view. Or if they do retroactive payouts.

stripperweb has a thread from 2018, Sam38g might be able to give you more accurate info. I think her twitter is sam38g. Fromher post on stripperweb.
"I make decent money on Xvideos, it is worth it to me. Have about 100 vids on it but at least 20 are cam shows men had recorded & posted without my permission. I had those moved to my account which is easy & now they make me money.

Actually I make more on Xvideos than I do ManyVids every month. "

Xvideo does not do back pay but I make more with them per month than I do PH. The back pay from PH was very nice though.

 

[Garygoldenballs]

Perhaps somewhat strongly stated, but not completely unreasonable.

Some models are 'safer' than others.
Only interesting content stays around.


If you're #854 on Miss MFC, and you do 'vanilla' shows - maybe nobody will be saving it.
Or if they do, they're the type that is saving everything, and probably not indexing it.

The risk is pretty much limited to a pretty small chance of one of your hardcore of fans recognising you in 15 years, and digging out that old, dusty blu-ray of old streams.

For more popular models, or unusualy hot shows, there is likely to be video floating around.

But - in 15 years - who is going to be watching bad quality 320*240 streams, when they could be watching 'fresh' content.

There is another risk though.

While the risk of random fans recognizing you (models, not bawksy (unless he's on some of the mancam sites)) is there, and will always be present, at the moment there is no easy way to search video for particular people.

I would expect this to change in the next 15-30 years.

It's probably already available today in a limited form somewhere - being able to search video for blue eyed females with a C cup, BMI of 18 or whatever, and a scar on their left arm.

But not yet able to take one video clip (say you getting off the plane on the arm of the president (and this time I do mean bawksy) and automatically searching for a 20 years younger person in all stored videos.

I would expect this to change.

It's - probably - unlikely that the whole MFC video archive will leak, so it's not quite as simple as being able to search all of MFC for a matching model to that clip.

Also - while of course they could record everything, and they may record snapshots - and certainly group and private shows, are they really going to be spending around a couple of thousand dollars a day to archive everything?

So - any exposure by this route would depend on how many videos the average person that thought to do the scan had, and how easy it was.

There will soon be websites where you can search for a person using facial recognition (those websites might be illegal but c'mon it's the internet). As fucked up as it is, I guess we better just accept that people will find out about our videos sooner or later. I've told many of my friends and brother that I do this, they think it's cool. Would never tell parents and gparents, tho. My biggest fear is that a hater will take a picture of me showing my butt and send it to my grandmother lol

Anyone else out of the closet as a cammer?

 

[AudriTwo]

There will soon be websites where you can search for a person using facial recognition (those websites might be illegal but c'mon it's the internet). As fucked up as it is, I guess we better just accept that people will find out about our videos sooner or later. I've told many of my friends and brother that I do this, they think it's cool. Would never tell parents and gparents, tho. My biggest fear is that a hater will take a picture of me showing my butt and send it to my grandmother lol

Anyone else out of the closet as a cammer?

If it makes you feel any better, my grandmother was the only older adult in my family to not rush to judgments and was interested in learning my perspective before coming to any conclusions. Her and I have an understanding. She doesn't like it, but she isn't going to impose her morals on me. She loves me unconditionally, and we respect each other. She was my biggest rock when I was outed and getting a lot of harassment from my family members. I love her. (I'm gonna go have a three hour conversation with her now on the phone)

I was outed not by a hater, but my dad's lifelong best friend. To give you an idea how close we are, his daughter and I were very close growing up. We call each other sisters. So it's usually someone you know who tells.

 

[ElaySmith]

There will soon be websites where you can search for a person using facial recognition (those websites might be illegal but c'mon it's the internet). As fucked up as it is, I guess we better just accept that people will find out about our videos sooner or later. I've told many of my friends and brother that I do this, they think it's cool. Would never tell parents and gparents, tho. My biggest fear is that a hater will take a picture of me showing my butt and send it to my grandmother lol

Anyone else out of the closet as a cammer?

I was outed by someone that went to high school with me...he posted a bunch of links across Facebook so there was really no denying it so I just told all my friends/family. Looking back though I lost more friends in my age group , including my childhood best friend who to this day will not speak to me bc of my choices. All of my older friends/family either don’t care or realize it’s my choice and just live with it bc they love me.

 

[Garygoldenballs]

If it makes you feel any better, my grandmother was the only older adult in my family to not rush to judgments and was interested in learning my perspective before coming to any conclusions. Her and I have an understanding. She doesn't like it, but she isn't going to impose her morals on me. She loves me unconditionally, and we respect each other. She was my biggest rock when I was outed and getting a lot of harassment from my family members. I love her. (I'm gonna go have a three hour conversation with her now on the phone)

I was outed not by a hater, but my dad's lifelong best friend. To give you an idea how close we are, his daughter and I were very close growing up. We call each other sisters. So it's usually someone you know who tells.

I guess he thought he was "helping you to get out of this life". Amazing how arrogant people are as to "they know what's good for us"...

I don't care if grandma is pissed off about me camming, just don't want her to have a heart attack

 

[babydollmitsy]

Hey everyone! I thought of making a thread but I figured this ties into the reality check OP about photos and videos being around forever. I've been dealing with an extremely obsessive impersonator using my pics/vids, even though I took steps like watermarking and deleting old ones. I feel this is another "risk" not many people think about. You can be so careful with your own content and someone could find it anyways through someone else.

It's been causing me a lot of stress, but if I stay in SW then this is just inevitable and I need to get over it. I guess it's a similar icky feeling to seeing broadcasts saved on tube sites and so on, which plagued me when I first started camming. Over time I've learned to just ignore those. Have you felt the same way? I've been in online SW for a year and a half and love it, but all the piracy still continues to surprise me.

 

[KariLove]

Bawksy, you ain't wrong. I like you! Great post.

 

[lilyginge]

This is something I've had to come to terms with. I've been video game streaming for a few years now, and making the jump to camming it was no surprise. I've already had someone recognize me, which was a bit jarring. At this point, it is what it is. It's not hidden. I know the things I am ok with posting, and sharing.

Great post!

 

[imTheSupremeOne]

As for me, after I finally decided camming, I wasn't even for a second considering to make an alias. I would even share my activity to a complete stranger, to at least get lulz from his reaction. Even on a job interview, especially, considering all those stupid questions that they are asking there... And if someone would be not ok with that why do even have any interactions in the first place?..

 

[JaneBurgess]

I honestly doubt it will stay online forever since so many people retire from this industry and when you google them, very few things show up unless they were huge porn stars. However it will stick around for a few years at at least

 

[AmberCutie]

I honestly doubt it will stay online forever since so many people retire from this industry and when you google them, very few things show up unless they were huge porn stars. However it will stick around for a few years at at least

If people know exact usernames/etc it'll probably be easy to find for at least a decade or two, depending on how the Internet progresses. I think that's what people mean with "forever". Like the the models who offer "forever" snapchat.... it's just the next couple decades they're thinking about.

 

[AllyVixen]

Models. You need to realize this right now. ANY time you put something on the internet, it is there FOREVER. It can never be eliminated, and eventually it will be found by someone who you'd rather not find it.

For example, any time you are on cam, you should assume that images or videos of that cam show will be recorded and put on the internet forever. I'm talking private shows, group shows, and ESPECIALLY public shows. It's already the case that MFC owns the rights to all of said imagery and video, and can do with it what they like.

You may not like it when members record your shows and upload them to different places on the internet, and you can try hard to get those images taken down. Sometimes you may find that you are even successful with getting an instance of something taken down. But the truth is, once it's out there it is impossible to fully retract. All it takes is one person to have saved a copy of it before it got taken down, and it can be reposted again. There is jack shit you can do about it, so it is not worth your time trying to take it down. It will only delay the inevitable, and could in fact speed it up by pissing people off and making them post it more.

A lot of models use location-block in order to block people from their hometown and surrounding area from seeing them. This is a decent short-term solution, but in the end, it's pointless. There is absolutely no way to guarantee that people from your home town will never find out. All it takes is one time for someone you know from real life to be travelling out of state and see you online, or see your pictures. It is also easy for technically-savvy people to use a proxy to get around location blocks. The point is, location block is only a temporary solution, and there are ways around it. You will be found out. It is only a matter of time.

Let's say you're super lucky, and during your several-year stint as a camwhore, you are never found by someone you know in real life. You think you're off the hook? Along with all the imagery MFC has recorded of you and could sell at any point in time, you can bet that random members (and guests!) have taken lots of imagery too. It will be on the internet forever. 40 years down the road, your kids will stumble across naked pictures and videos of you on the internet. It's going to happen. This is reality, and there is nothing you can do to change it.

The point? If you don't want your friends and family to find out you're a camwhore, then don't become a camwhore. Don't want your grandkids to see videos of you anally fisting yourself? Then don't become a camwhore. Don't want the local authorities to find out you're a camwhore? I think I'm becoming redundant here.

Do you think your real-life identity is secret? All it takes is ONE person you know from real life to find you on MFC and leak your identity. It's going to happen eventually. Hopefully it won't happen for a while, but you need to be prepared for the day when it does happen, because mark my words, it will.

Once something is on the internet, it is there forever. Making an attempt to change that fact only makes you look stupid.

Gahhhhhh I mean I knew this but gosh darnit

 

[ohvenusmuse]

I feel like we're reaching an internet porn saturation point where yeah it's on the internet forever, but so is everything else. There's hundreds of millions if not billions of porn vids on the internet. Being a drop in an ocean feels a lot less significant than a drop in a bucket.

 

[Makko]

In my history of 20 years of porn surfing, I have NEVER came across a camstream. And if I would, I'd most probably skip it. There are a lot of disadvantages to camstreams compared to 'normal' pornvids:
- Video quality: Though quality is increasing by the day, the majority of streams are not 4k
- Fairly tame: OP speaks of anal fisting and such, but in reality, the majority is 'just' nudity and some mild masturbation. The average porn surfer usually goes for the 'harder stuff'.
- Tipping sounds, model speaking to members, etc. is not something you want in a pornvid. An undisturbed experience watching porn is ideal.

First off, I'm not dissing cammodels with this; I LOVE cams; The interaction with a model is just golden. It's a unique experience and I wish I discovered it sooner.
But having said that, porn videos do have their advantages if you just want to relax a bit and want to see some hardcore stuff.
I'm also not saying camstreams will never be found by people you know, but if you not actively search for it, the chance to find it at random is extremely small (well at least it is in my experience).

 

[PlaywithBoy]

It's not entirely true. Your content will disappear in about 5-10 years after your completly stop camming, or at least the vast majority of it... But only if you delete all your accounts after you stop. And don't worry about websites where users upload recorded cam videos like [site name banned*12] those websites disappear too in 5-10 years.

 

[Jupiterssunrise]

I know it will be out there forever . Therefor I only am around people who are ok with it . I mean it will always be there . I’m like a dozen of girls . When I look at the sea of cam girls none of them really stand out to me to remember when I leave for work in the real world . So I don’t see myself as important . As for guys their
Mysogony and hypocrisy show right through when they criticize women they go online to look for . It doesn’t make sense and I don’t give a fuck anymore . This is not meant for regular people who care about what other people think of them

 

[Puffin]

For anyone using Instagram.

 

[anabeauty37]

Well is a choice . everycam model knows that her videos will be on web . Of course if you leave, in 1 year milion new cam models videos, noone gonna find you anymore .. but if you stay means you dont care anymore . I dont care , im not stealing, killing or raping this poor mens on my room , i just work , i work legal paying taxes, and all my family and friends knows what im doing , i dont hide since i am ok with myself and my life as a cam girl . For sure depends who you are , if you are popular or dreaming to have a dream job after camming might be scary , but if you are a simple person that only hairdresser and few other no name people knows you, then really not big stress ..

 

[CallMeMaria]

Am I really the only one who is bothered by the term camwhore?