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Bocefish said:
Sneezing fetish??

Wish I could off on such random everyday shit like that. :lol:

Hahahaha....

Well I used to think I was on the freaky side until I started doing fetish phonesex and webcam......

I feel like the dullest person on the planet when it comes to sexual stuff now.
 
bawksy said:
So what you're saying is, if you want a picture taken down, don't be a cunt about it and just ask nicely? That would be a new concept to the users of this forum.

Haha! Yes... when the girls wish to have their images removed from YOUR posts they ask ME nicely! :mrgreen:
 
AmberCutie said:
bawksy said:
So what you're saying is, if you want a picture taken down, don't be a cunt about it and just ask nicely? That would be a new concept to the users of this forum.

Haha! Yes... when the girls wish to have their images removed from YOUR posts they ask ME nicely! :mrgreen:

:lol:
Maybe if I was a cute sexy model then I would get asked nicely also. :lol:
 
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tightlockup said:
Let's meet Bob.

Hi, I'm Bob. (Hi Bob!) I was horny so I went to http://www.fictitiouspornhost.com to rub one out. I see a video of a really hot girl playing with herself - looks like into a webcam! She did things I didn't even knew existed ! Wow - if I wanted to see more of this girl, where would I go ? Hmm, doesn't say in the film or the description :( Oh, but in the comments - the model herself has posted a link (with the referral code) to where she can be found , and even included a flirty invitation for me to join her there! Oh joy of joys, I will now get to meet and interact with this incredible babe of my dreams ! I will click the link, become a member and give her too many tokens! I'm a happy Bob, and the model I saw on http://www.ficticiouspornhost.com is happy because her post led to me having an opportunity to make money.

Bye Bob!

EXACTLY! :clap:
 
LonelyJaney said:
tightlockup said:
Let's meet Bob.

Hi, I'm Bob. (Hi Bob!) I was horny so I went to http://www.fictitiouspornhost.com to rub one out. I see a video of a really hot girl playing with herself - looks like into a webcam! She did things I didn't even knew existed ! Wow - if I wanted to see more of this girl, where would I go ? Hmm, doesn't say in the film or the description :( Oh, but in the comments - the model herself has posted a link (with the referral code) to where she can be found , and even included a flirty invitation for me to join her there! Oh joy of joys, I will now get to meet and interact with this incredible babe of my dreams ! I will click the link, become a member and give her too many tokens! I'm a happy Bob, and the model I saw on http://www.ficticiouspornhost.com is happy because her post led to me having an opportunity to make money.

Bye Bob!

EXACTLY! :clap:

Except when that happens, it's not always somewhere the model might want to be advertised. I mean, frankie might be cool having her video up on a site that's mostly snuff, but not everyone would. Also, why should the model have to track down the videos of her to post a link? I did a few (very short) clips at one point, but I made certain they all linked back to the model and it was very clear who they were and what site it was.
 
Keithy said:
LonelyJaney said:
tightlockup said:
Let's meet Bob.

Hi, I'm Bob. (Hi Bob!) I was horny so I went to http://www.fictitiouspornhost.com to rub one out. I see a video of a really hot girl playing with herself - looks like into a webcam! She did things I didn't even knew existed ! Wow - if I wanted to see more of this girl, where would I go ? Hmm, doesn't say in the film or the description :( Oh, but in the comments - the model herself has posted a link (with the referral code) to where she can be found , and even included a flirty invitation for me to join her there! Oh joy of joys, I will now get to meet and interact with this incredible babe of my dreams ! I will click the link, become a member and give her too many tokens! I'm a happy Bob, and the model I saw on http://www.ficticiouspornhost.com is happy because her post led to me having an opportunity to make money.

Bye Bob!

EXACTLY! :clap:

Except when that happens, it's not always somewhere the model might want to be advertised. I mean, frankie might be cool having her video up on a site that's mostly snuff, but not everyone would. Also, why should the model have to track down the videos of her to post a link? I did a few (very short) clips at one point, but I made certain they all linked back to the model and it was very clear who they were and what site it was.


Oh of course I'm the chick who does the snuff films. :snooty: :lol: :lol:
 
Something else to watch is that the camera does not see things as you do.

Normally, this could just be written off in the 'good cam/shitty cam' thread - as it's not at all important.

Sometimes, 'blacking out' some text before showing it to the camera doesn't actually work very well, as the camera sees stuff you can't.

So 'Woo - I applied for X - see the form!' can reveal your card number, or other things - even though you thought you'd blacked it out.

At the least, check it off-cam looking at it through the webcam.
 
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I once figured out the city a model lived in by facts over time and the connecting piece was the weather.

From conversations with her I knew she was in a big city in the mid-west.

One day she said it snowed last night, and is snowing now. I quickly checked the weather map and only one major city fit that description.

When I said you live in St. Louis don't you....she freaked. I explained to her how I figured it out and told her she really needs to be more careful.

BTW, I'm not a stalker, just enjoy figuring out problems.
 
I've pointed out to many a model that they just gave away their supposedly secret location by posting tiny bits of info like what concert they were going to, or a major news story from their area. I do wish some of them would be more careful :(
 
luvsyou said:
I once figured out the city a model lived in by facts over time and the connecting piece was the weather.

From conversations with her I knew she was in a big city in the mid-west.

One day she said it snowed last night, and is snowing now. I quickly checked the weather map and only one major city fit that description.

When I said you live in St. Louis don't you....she freaked. I explained to her how I figured it out and told her she really needs to be more careful.

BTW, I'm not a stalker, just enjoy figuring out problems.

I've done the same thing, but I didn't even need to know anything about the weather and I was able to get it down to 3 or 4 locations :p

I agree, not a stalker, but it was a puzzle, and it needed to be solved!
 
Another advice for models in the US, if you give out your phone number be aware that even if you do not have a phonebook entry, there are websites and companies that can look up the name of the account holder. These services are not free but some of them charge as little as $3 for a lookup or they even have free promotions on iPhone/Smartphone apps from time to time. If you want to remove this information you have to specifically advise your provider to do so.

I will not make any of the services public to protect the models but any model is welcome to send me a pm and ask for the websites.

Take care everybody!

Dan
 
insAedan said:
Another advice for models in the US, if you give out your phone number be aware that even if you do not have a phonebook entry,

Similarly, some information is public.
'Argh - I had to go to court for xxx'

If your jurisdiction makes these public, and someones worked out what state you're in, then if they find the court records, they've probably got your full name, DOB, height/weight/gender and address. (If they care enough) (well - care may be the wrong word.)
 
Disposable prepaid SIM cards are so cheap nowadays there is absolutely no excuse not to get one if you're going to be doing anything phone-related for MFC.
 
So when it comes to phone related stuff. What about text only applications like textplus or ims that u can log into via your phone. How safe is tha if u use it for mfc phone related things?
 
Probably safe if you use a separate IM account. I know Amber checks her Gmail from her iPhone.

A SIM card = a phone number. Get a separate one for MFC if you're going to be doing calls or texts.
 
Unfortunately, a current MFC girl whose identity I am going to keep secret as I was told in secrecy and she is a close friend and confidant, is in this exact position. I am offering her advice when I think of things to help run interference and defuse of the backlash that is looming in her not-so-distant horizon; but, the lack of anonymity on the web is very real, though bawsky could have sugar-coated his warning a little better to make sound less matter-of-fact. :lol:

But really, everything that is being said and the advice being given by both models and chatters APPLIES TO US CHATTERS WHO CHOOSE TO DO C2C SHOWS. Personally I don't do cam shows, have never done 'em (no matter how much my girls tried swaying my emotions with pouty lips, a sad face, or whatever), and will never do 'em because they just don't appeal to me; but for those of you chatters who get 'em showing your face on cam whilst stroking your meat, be forewarned and get ready because all the warnings directed towards the models apply to you just as easily.
 
In our defense, we're much less likely to want to see that at all, let alone a recording of it...

and male nude stuff doesn't sell as well.
 
FifthElephant said:
LadyLuna said:
jebbaz said:
If I was starting out as a model (which is at this point unlikely) start out with a completely 'clean sheet' identity.

Make up a birthday, or at least throw off your age by one year.
Pick a 'real' name to use for all correspondence, and only ever use it for model related stuff. Use a town one to the left, ideally that you know a bit, but not one you've lived in.
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This is some great advice (and another interesting thread). The same goes for members who want to remain "private" (you know, the married members and the like :cool: ).

There is one model on MFC who I have become quite good friends with off-cam. She also does "msn" shows and unfortunately her MSN profile has her real name listed on it. With that, some insensitive git found her Facebook and spammed the chat with the link. Now she is being harassed by members on Facebook. To the point where she has shut down her account there.

Phone numbers, names, email address and Google is all you need to find out a LOT about a person. :ugeek: For some members, it presents as a challenge and they will work strategically over months and months to gather bits and pieces of info about you.

The idea of creating a completely separate identity is a great one and I wish cam sites like MFC actually encouraged models to do this in order to help protect their identities.

This doesn't however stop your screen caps and shows from being thrown all over the 'net.

Cheers,
D.
 
SpexyAshleigh said:
One of my biggest pet peeves is camgirls whining about seeing a screencap or recorded video of theirs posted on random forums. They feel that its a violation of their privacy...but what they don't get is that they're NOT and NEVER WILL be doing "private acts". If you don't want your ass all over the web, THEN DON'T PUT IT OUT THERE ON THE WEB IN THE FIRST PLACE. :dance:


Easy and simple for someone to understand, unless they are new to the business! it is crucial for girls to see the above post about the consequences ! wish i could tell the world of new cam girls,,would save them tons of grief.
 
there is a model who just started out on mfc that i know really well from another site..
when i came in she right away asked me who the idiot was that told the friends group from that other site that she was now working here..
i was lol huh thats fucking free promotion... and she was like oh yeah... but i dont want people to know..
hmm i said well this site has thousands of models and millions of members..
at that moment she was kinda freaked out and stopped talking to me...

it suprises me that some girls really think they can keep this job a secret..
 
Cash81 said:
...though bawsky could have sugar-coated his warning a little better to make sound less matter-of-fact. :lol:
The thread is called Reality check for a reason. It's a mothafuckin' wake up call not a gentle suggestion. Sugar-coating shit also has the negative side-effect of sometimes causing the intended message to not be properly conveyed. Blunt, directness is way better I believe and the only reason I ever sugar-coat things is for political reasons or because I know/suspect the person I am dealing with doesn't have any fucking balls and could never handle it otherwise.
 
LoveLov said:
hi..
i know this thread started last year but... here is my answer to this reality check..........
whos the camwhore?
Im a person modelling my pretty stuff on cam... your the whore for watching/paying for it :lol: ..

I can already see you and bawksy are going to get along well.
 
LoveLov said:
hi..
i know this thread started last year but... here is my answer to this reality check..........
whos the camwhore?
Im a person modelling my pretty stuff on cam... your the whore for watching/paying for it :lol: ..
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The majority of us use the term CamWhore in a silly, poking fun at ourselves, way. It's not offensive unless you want it to be. And as you can see from the image above, folks watching us do not fall in the category of Whores. We are the ones who do sexual things to ourselves on cam for money. If we only did it for attention and did not get paid, we'd just be Sluts. :D
 
Oh me oh my... This thread has certainly thrown me into deep thinking mode. I don't think I'll go into too much detail here but I did want to leave a few comments.

First and foremost, everyone keeps talking about being "found out" and having all your personal information revealed... I'm just wondering what everyone is afraid that someone is going to do with this information? I'm not saying there aren't bad things people could do with it (hell, I know there are)... I'm just curious as to specifically what everyone is worried about? Identity theft? That can happen whether you are a cam model or not. Murder? Stalking? That can happen even if you live a "normal" life... Perhaps stalking is more likely when you are a female in the entertainment industry (maybe even more so in the ADULT entertainment industry, but I don't know). All I'm saying, is that pretty much everything I've listed can happen whether you are active on the internet or not... Whether you are a cam model or not. I guess maybe you are all just trying to point out that it's more likely to happen as a cam model?

Also, I realize that the majority of people may just be worried about being "found out" to all their friends, family, etc. And, this has already been covered... If you are really worried about this, you shouldn't be a cam model. So it's a non-issue. Accept that you can and probably will be found out, or quit camming. I thank bawksy for posting this, because it's true. I'm not gonna lie, I do wish I had really thought about it a bit more when I entered into camming. I'm not entirely sure whether it would have changed anything, but I certainly didn't consider it when I started. It just sounded like a fun, easy way to make some money from home. I didn't take some serious me-time to think about the potential consequences.

Either way, as far as I'm concerned, I don't believe in living my life in fear.

I'm untouchable. The only things that can affect my level of health and happiness are that which I let do so. Well, perhaps not my physical health if it's some big, muscular man (or group or otherwise powerful people) that wants to hurt me. I can't stop that... But I am not often alone. I don't walk down dark streets at night by myself and I certainly don't walk around in public wearing my work outfits. And again, I come back to the whole I don't live my life in fear. I'm not going to base my entire life off of what someone COULD do to me.

The point of it all is, you can and probably will be found out. Yes, I believe you should be safe... But there's no point in living your life paranoid. In fact, I believe if you are constantly paranoid about something and spending a large amount of your life focusing on that something, you are MUCH more likely to bring it upon yourself. I'll take necessary precautions, and I would never entrust a stranger with my life... But there's a big difference between being informed about the potential consequences (someone finding out about your job and obtaining your personal information) and living your life in paranoid fear.

I am a CamWhore.
 
for some I guess it is the fear of having some family members hear about/see what they do..
when u are 19-25 and u can care less about ur private parts.. but for certain ladies after lets say 30, who have or want to have a family (aka kids). its a major issue...the problem is not how u will explain to people that U did what U did for money or for a better life in general.. the problem is how is YOUR KID going to explain to his buddies that his mommy is getting ass fucked,..
i dont think this how issue is about us, models, young or old.. is more about those dear to us who can hurt one way or another when they hear the news.... :shifty:

oh and by the way...
are those hollywood actresses getting naked in certain scenes whores? well they got big bucks because of those scenes so my vote is YES! :lol:
 
AlexLady said:
Nudity isn't a sexual act, it's nudity. So no, they're not whores.

I gotta agree with Alex on this one. Getting nude for money = not really a sexual act all the time. Masturbating for money = sexual act. Definition of whore. :)