New cam site with traffic looking for 5 - 10 girls only

[classy16]

I have an adult site with a lot of targeted traffic ( 95% is USA/Male) and looking to have 5 - 10 girls max on the site to cam and be the faces of the website.

I am new to camming. I'll pay girls more than the average of other sites, and with the traffic the site is currently getting each girl should be able to make decent money and get clients. I want to cap the number of girls to make sure all the traffic only focuses on these few girls. Would love girls to work 'with' me instead of 'for' me like other sites.

If anyone is interested in discussing this, please send me a PM. I'm on skype almost 24/7. Thanks, and any suggestions are welcome too.

 

[AerynShade]

Ten. Ten women. Only ten. 10.

What happens when all ten women are asleep? Or take the day off for a holiday?

You'll pay more than average. How much more? Are you going to be paying an hourly wage?

You've never heard of arguably the most well-known clip site that's been around for a long time. This makes me wonder what other aspects of the online porn biz you don't know about. Who ARE you? What site do you run?

 

[classy16]

Thanks for replying.

Like I said, I'm new at this and welcome feedback.

I will do a 60/40 split with all the girls, which I think is more than some of the top sites are doing, and I should be one of the highest paying sites out there with this rate.

An hourly wage I would not be able to do.

The reason the number of girls is so low is because I want to focus on a few girls that my traffic can see/interact with regularly as opposed to seeing pages of girls that are never online for the lesser known sites. I would like these group of girls to be regulars so to speak.

 

[WebcamStartup]

What's the URL? Have you drafted all the legal documents? How big is your budget/war chest? Do you got everything setup for payment processing, 2257 compliance and all that other fun shit? Might have this for your other site, but without seeing what you're working with, hard to tell.

What I'd suggest, and would be way better, I can CC you on an email with some tech providers. They're trying to find the solution for brand new sites with no models being featured. They do this through a system of being able to feature other models from their network of over 20 sites. Works on a revshare model between the sites. This way, your site isn't a complete ghost town as soon as you pull the trigger. Also, any models you do register can be featured on the network of 20+ sites, allowing them to get paid while you're ramping your traffic and customer base up.

If you've done all the due dilligence, have all the ducks in a row, and you're absolutely ready to pull the trigger, I'll do that for you. Otherwise, don't want to waste your time or their time.

 

[AerynShade]

60/40 isn't higher than all other sites. It's what MFC pays women.

http://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Becoming_a_Webcam_Model_at_MyFreeCams

Are you going to require these models to be on at a specific time so that your site always has 1 model available? If so, how will you determine which models get the 'better' hours? What if they all want to cam at the exact same time and for 20 hours a day your site is dead?

 

[classy16]

Sorry, not looking for a revshare at the moment. Looking for models. Already have the traffic.

All legal, tech, processing, etc has been taken care of.

 

[classy16]

60/40 isn't higher than all other sites. It's what MFC pays women.
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As I said in my second message, 60/40 will be "more than some of the top sites are doing" and "should be one of the highest paying sites" for girls. And from the first message "more than the average".

 

[AerynShade]

How is it going to be one of the highest paying sites? What makes your site special?

Is this a token based site? Is it a private based site?
Why don't you share the site name, even if it's not live it gives us an idea of what it'll be like?

 

[WebcamStartup]

Well, you gonna share the domain with us?

 

[JickyJuly]

If you think you can afford to only take 40% of the earnings of 10 people and still make a profit after advertising and site costs, you're not spending enough to get your site off the ground. You'd really need to luck out and get an established, major name to cam your site for that to even maybe happen. And, it's doubtful the big girls are going to see the words "medium traffic site"and "60%" as a draw.

 

[classy16]

If you think you can afford to only take 40% of the earnings of 10 people and still make a profit after advertising and site costs, you're not spending enough to get your site off the ground. You'd really need to luck out and get an established, major name to cam your site for that to even maybe happen. And, it's doubtful the big girls are going to see the words "medium traffic site"and "60%" as a draw.

Good point, thank you. It's hard to get off the ground, I agree. I'm hoping this group would like to be the main attraction of the site so to speak as the site grows.

 

[DrWangFei]

Well, you gonna share the domain with us?

It's threads like this that I just don't trust the OP... if he's really interested in getting models to his site he'd post the URL for the model to check the site to see if it'd be a good site for her or not.

 

[classy16]

We're finishing up the integration and I was hoping to speak to some models before 'going public' so to speak.

The main models would have all the traffic for themselves, this is probably more for models who are on the lower search pages of other main sites, or those who do not have a large following and looking to boost income.

The site has low 5 figures of traffic daily.

 

[Pikachai]

I guess I'm curious how you know the traffic is willing to pay before you go live? Traffic means very little to me. Most of my online presence gets an insane amount of traffic on their own, but that doesn't mean anyone is paying. Also I get that you are seeing this as an opportunity for lower page girls to become a guaranteed top girl because on your site there will only be the 10, but I honestly think it takes all kind of earning power to make a site successful. Top girls on sites like MFC are really often carried by one or a few core high spending members. Maybe none of the girls you choose have that magic to them they seek, or maybe he spends less because there isn't any backup girls he likes for when she's not on, or maybe you turn off a lot of lower spending traffic because they like a girl who's time they can afford to hog. Maybe one of your girls loses a whale who is accounting for a huge chunk of your business. If she goes down, will you go down? The reason virtually any girl can become successful if she gets lucky in this industry, is the same reason you are shooting yourself in the foot.

It sounds more like you would be better off creating a studio with it's own website of content featuring a core group of cam girls who would then be working for you. Whether you are looking to do either we still have yet to see what you can do for the models, rather than what you can skim off the top. If a model seeks traffic, she is better off on an established site where the traffic pays, wouldn't you think?

 

[BobbyB]

Lets say the traffic is there and the guys are willing to spent money and the models generate 200 $ a day each , that means the site is making from all 10 models about 1000 $ ( 50 % ) a day and has only the technical costs to keep it going.

So could be a nice earner if it works as planned.

 

[classy16]

Thanks for that answer Pikachai.

re: paying, I've monetized this traffic but am doing a major overhaul on how to monetize it with models. But, you're right - I won't know until there are models up. (and I'll never know unless I try).

re: second paragraph - I am very, very open to what I can do for models. If there are any ideas on what I can offer them to give this a shot with me, if it's not outrageous I will accommodate.

re: model seeking traffic. I am hoping (but won't know until we try together) that low traffic models will find a payoff with me on a medium traffic site that has been monetized.

 

[classy16]

Lets say the traffic is there and the guys are willing to spent money and the models generate 200 $ a day each , that means the site is making from all 10 models about 1000 $ ( 50 % ) a day and has only the technical costs to keep it going.

So could be a nice earner if it works as planned.

BobbyB - thank you, that is the plan!!! I would be reinvesting a lot of that into prizes for models, upgrades, advertising, etc too.

 

[RebelleHart]

Are you going to require these models to be on at a specific time so that your site always has 1 model available? If so, how will you determine which models get the 'better' hours? What if they all want to cam at the exact same time and for 20 hours a day your site is dead?

@classy16 I'd really like to know the answer to this

 

[WickedTouch]

So, OP... umm... ah... what was the name and URL of your site again... didn't quite catch it.

 

[Mira_xo]

I don't think your plan is very viable. 10 girls to generate all income? What if they all took the same day off?

If they are 1099'd like most sites you have about 0 control of when they have to work. If you are going to require them to work x number of hours then you will have to make them W-2'd employees and pay payroll tax, etc.

Share the site name if you're trying to advertise on here.

 

[Mila_]

I actually think the OP sounds like a nice guy who is being sincere about his expectations and his capacity to deliver on his side of the deal. And I like that. I like it when I see someone come here who knows exactly what he wants and not getting butthurt at people's doubts and criticism. So kudos on that, @classy16

I also think it is unfair to grill this guy because he hasnt shared the URL with all of us. He is looking for 10 models who want to team up with him and work closely on his project, so maybe he will PM the URL to those who show an actual interest on his project.

I also think he has a grip on the idea of scaling his site progressively. He isnt like most people who post here, who want to create an entire platform and offer a full service from the bat while having no clue where they will get traffic from. Remember Hush Hush Cams? The idea sounded exciting but he never made it real because it was too much too soon. So by starting out with 10 girls he gets to test the waters, if it is a success great! Ge scales up, if it isnt, no biggie, he just tweaks the idea or walks away with little fallout. Who cares if he doesnt have models on 24/7 at the beginning? He can simply send an email to his customers when girls go online.

I do have to say though, OP that you should put yourself in the shoes of a model. You are asking for a lot from your girls. You are asking girls who have too much experience to take a leap of faith with you and risk making no money and wasting their time in exchange for... a promise? This is a lot to ask for. If you really want this to work consider investing a little bit on paying your girls a stable rate. It doesnt have to be much, just enough to guarantee that they will make *something* even if it turns out to be crap. You can, for example, pay them 30 bucks a day for a minimum of 3 hours on cam. That comes down to 300 a day if all 10 of them log on which isnt a fortune. You should be able to tell if this has potential within a week or two of starting. Girls will be guaranteed they at least earned something while giving your site a shot.

 

[WebcamStartup]

The only site I can think of that's doing anything similar as far as scale is Cherry Pimps, which for all intents and purposes is Streamate. The only reason that scale is working for them is because they've got AVN-caliber with the name recognition.

If the traffic is willing to pay for cams, I think it'd be more profitable and turnkey to send them to a lifetime revshare affiliate program. Plenty of those around.

I don't know, maybe if it was very, very, very niche.

@classy16 What is the niche of the site? Or is it just a general / multi-niche?

 

[BobbyB]

I don't think your plan is very viable. 10 girls to generate all income? What if they all took the same day off?

If they are 1099'd like most sites you have about 0 control of when they have to work. If you are going to require them to work x number of hours then you will have to make them W-2'd employees and pay payroll tax, etc.

Share the site name if you're trying to advertise on here.

Maybe I am wrong, but some girls work on multiple sites at the same time, so it should not be a big deal to give this site a try and add it to the mix and see how it goes moneywise.....

 

[Mila_]

Maybe I am wrong, but some girls work on multiple sites at the same time, so it should not be a big deal to give this site a try and add it to the mix and see how it goes moneywise.....

Well... I wouldn't want my 10 girl site to consist of split cammers. They don't pay exclusive attention to your room and odds are his site will be the smallest one they will be camming on so the least attention they will devote to it. If OP goes this way then his camsite will consist of 10 models interacting with people that are not on OPs website with tip sounds from other sites, while paying no attention to OP's chatroom. And if they aren't very successful split cammers then it will consist of girls who only stare to the screen. Which isn't exactly ideal. If you are going to have only 10 girls you should aim for energetic personalities who will devote all their attention to your site.

One way in which the 10 girl set-up would work is to have everyone in one big chatroom and the models cam one by one during the day, in the same chat. That way there will always be some sort of show up and plus the regulars would get to know each other fostering a community feeling from the very start. But that would require giving the girls a fixed schedule and having them commit to it.. which I guess would mean you would have to employ them, and I don't think that is what OP wants.

 

[classy16]

@Kitsune thanks so much for such a great response.

I think paying them $30 for 3 hours is a brilliant idea. I'll still do the 60/40 split of course also, and hopefully they will have the opportunity to earn a lot more since the traffic will be exclusively for these few girls.

If anyone is interested, please send me a PM. $30 for 3 hours of work plus the 60% split.

Very excited, I'm on skype 24/7 pretty much. Look forward to speaking to any girls who are interested!

 

[WebcamStartup]

Maybe I am wrong, but some girls work on multiple sites at the same time, so it should not be a big deal to give this site a try and add it to the mix and see how it goes moneywise.....

If that's the case, YouKandy is offering 100% on their cams right now, trying to ramp up that side of the business......

Still don't see models performing on there.

 

[WebcamStartup]

OP, what's the niche of the site?

 

[Magnolia]

I am new to camming.

Biggest red flag that no one is talking about. Why would I join a site owned and ran by someone who is not experienced in the business? I've seen this a lot: an "entrepreneur" with a "unique idea" starting a new camsite/studio with little to no experience in the industry. It's almost always a try at a cash-grab from new and unsuspecting models and I've never seen one succeed.

So, what is your experience, if any, in the live-streaming and adult industries?

 

[Lorelei]

Maybe I am wrong, but some girls work on multiple sites at the same time, so it should not be a big deal to give this site a try and add it to the mix and see how it goes moneywise.....

I might be alone in this, but I feel like most of us work on exactly one live-camming site, at least when it comes to token-based social camsites. I'm on cam four to six days a week, and when I'm there I'm strengthening my regular-base and making new connections. Token-based sites are all about community, and focusing on more than one camsite at a time would weaken my presence.

That said, ladies who work on private-based sites are potentially more likely to be open to adding another site to the mix, I can't speak for that community.

Also, seconding @Magnolia, curious what your background is, OP!

 

[Serenity_Tam]

Why would viewers go to a site with only ten girls? Even assuming all ten girls were on at the same time all day everyday... It seems .... Boring.

It feels like they would have to specifically go there to see a specific girl or type of girl. So a girls current member base? If that were the case she could cut out the middle man and arrange Skype shows for alll the dollars. I know you said there was existing traffic... But.. like.... How can you know that traffic will be interested in the narrow selection of girls your site will be forced to have.