Mysteriously ghosted CB model . . and a Tip Note >> banned from room

[Dubious]

In mid-December, on what I gather was an agency end-of-year incentive trip to Indonesia, a "new" Aussie (agency) model — 20; joined CB in 06/24 — I adore spending time with streamed from her hotel room in Bali before flying back to Australia in a couple of days (allegedly).

Indonesia can be (is?) draconian regarding its "2008 Indonesian Anti-Pornography Law," which states that "anyone who displays pornography in public can face up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $335,000. The law includes public displays of nudity, sexual exploitation, intercourse, and other pornographic content. It also includes public performances that could incite sexual desire." In December, there were headlines in Bali media organizations about the government cracking down on foreigners participating in various aspects of the sex industry.

#1 While sunbathing by her private plunge pool adjoining her hotel room, she told us that a couple of days prior, she had noticed a man (hotel employee? gardener? undercover police?) in a tree watching her (allegedly),

#2 while streaming to us in her bra and panties, a hotel employee opened her hotel room door and walked in on her (allegedly . . it was off-camera, but we could hear them talking) . . and

#3 while streaming, she absentmindedly accidentally flashed her bare breast(s) while performing a topless "hand bra."

Since that broadcast 2+ weeks ago, the model has most-unusually ghosted, and I am worried she was arrested and is in a Bali prison. Or she may simply be taking time off from camming, quit the industry, or any number of other possibilities, of course. And I don't know what I would / could do if I found out she is in prison in Bali, but I'm pretty sure I would try to do . . something.

She doesn't (didn't?) provide Telegram or Twitter or any other means of communicating, and her OF is clearly 99% agency-managed and run. So I have been reaching out to other Aussie models on CB via 25 token Tip Notes asking if they can tell me . . anything. Even if they knew something, they very likely wouldn't tell me anything, but it's worth a try IMHO, after all, they can simply say "no" or completely ignore my tip note:

“Hi (Model). I’m a devoted fan of Aussie model (unnamed) & trying to see if she’s ok. She streamed in Bali (VERY illegal) 2 weeks ago & hasn’t been seen or heard from since; I’m worried she was arrested & is in Bali prison. Can U tell me . . anything?”

I have sent about 15+ Aussie models this 25 token Tip Note, most of whom have never heard of her / know nothing (allegedly). A couple models have responded crypticly. And today, I was instantaneously banned from a new-ish Aussie model's room (before she could have possibly read the note) by somebody other than the model; while there was no Red Moderator, I believe moderators can change their color to anything they want.



Which leads me to believe something is going on. And/or it is possible (probable?) that an agency is rightly taking measures to protect the model and anything remotely having to do with her identity from a fan (me): other than myself, nobody can possibly know for sure that I do not want to know anything about the model other than that she is ok / is not languishing in a Bali prison.

I don't really even know what my question is, and I KNOW some (most?) contributors are going to jump all over me for a variety of reasons, but I feel that I care about this human being half way across the world who I have had the pleasure of spending time with.

Earnest advice? Well-intended suggestions?

 

[BlueEyezIrish]

In mid-December, on what I gather was an agency end-of-year incentive trip to Indonesia, a "new" Aussie (agency) model — 20; joined CB in 06/24 — I adore spending time with streamed from her hotel room in Bali before flying back to Australia in a couple of days (allegedly).

Indonesia can be (is?) draconian regarding its "2008 Indonesian Anti-Pornography Law," which states that "anyone who displays pornography in public can face up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $335,000. The law includes public displays of nudity, sexual exploitation, intercourse, and other pornographic content. It also includes public performances that could incite sexual desire." In December, there were headlines in Bali media organizations about the government cracking down on foreigners participating in various aspects of the sex industry.

#1 While sunbathing by her private plunge pool adjoining her hotel room, she told us that a couple of days prior, she had noticed a man (hotel employee? gardener? undercover police?) in a tree watching her (allegedly),

#2 while streaming to us in her bra and panties, a hotel employee opened her hotel room door and walked in on her (allegedly . . it was off-camera, but we could hear them talking) . . and

#3 while streaming, she absentmindedly accidentally flashed her bare breast(s) while performing a topless "hand bra."

Since that broadcast 2+ weeks ago, the model has most-unusually ghosted, and I am worried she was arrested and is in a Bali prison. Or she may simply be taking time off from camming, quit the industry, or any number of other possibilities, of course. And I don't know what I would / could do if I found out she is in prison in Bali, but I'm pretty sure I would try to do . . something.

She doesn't (didn't?) provide Telegram or Twitter or any other means of communicating, and her OF is clearly 99% agency-managed and run. So I have been reaching out to other Aussie models on CB via 25 token Tip Notes asking if they can tell me . . anything. Even if they knew something, they very likely wouldn't tell me anything, but it's worth a try IMHO, after all, they can simply say "no" or completely ignore my tip note:

“Hi (Model). I’m a devoted fan of Aussie model (unnamed) & trying to see if she’s ok. She streamed in Bali (VERY illegal) 2 weeks ago & hasn’t been seen or heard from since; I’m worried she was arrested & is in Bali prison. Can U tell me . . anything?”

I have sent about 15+ Aussie models this 25 token Tip Note, most of whom have never heard of her / know nothing (allegedly). A couple models have responded crypticly. And today, I was instantaneously banned from a new-ish Aussie model's room (before she could have possibly read the note) by somebody other than the model; while there was no Red Moderator, I believe moderators can change their color to anything they want.

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Which leads me to believe something is going on. And/or it is possible (probable?) that an agency is rightly taking measures to protect the model and anything remotely having to do with her identity from a fan (me): other than myself, nobody can possibly know for sure that I do not want to know anything about the model other than that she is ok / is not languishing in a Bali prison.

I don't really even know what my question is, and I KNOW some (most?) contributors are going to jump all over me for a variety of reasons, but I feel that I care about this human being half way across the world who I have had the pleasure of spending time with.

Earnest advice? Well-intended suggestions?

Move on!!! No one should be that invested in a cam model that doesn’t pay your bills or love you at all. Find a new model Now to play with

 

[Dubious]

Move on!!! No one should be that invested in a cam model that doesn’t pay your bills or love you at all.

LOL! Knew I could count on you, Blue! I love how acerbic you are

Find a new model Now to play with

Have found a few . . and because my heart has infinite capacity, I can "move on" AND try to maintain existing relationships.

 

[misterical]

Let's see now. Disappears for a couple of weeks at Christmas? Yes, I immediately thought "locked up in a Bali hellhole prison" as well. Not.

Fucking hell mate. Step away from the computer. She's just lying in front of the television eating chocolates and watching Netflix. You need to get some perspective.

 

[tokensarentforkids]

Plot twist: you are the biggest threat to the model.

 

[Vixxen81]

No, moderators cannot change their color to anything they want. They also cannot ban anyone, only silence them.

I ban people all of the time without reading their tip notes because I parse them for violations and mentioning another model is a violation. You're advertising the model you're so very wrongly worried about to another model and that pisses us off, doubly so since you think we're so interconnected we know who is who and what they're doing.

Not only do we not know, we don't fucking care!

 

[misterical]

This is why you should never watch "Banged up Abroad" when you are horny.

 

[Vixxen81]

And ke thinks Dubious isn't aware of the 5 second delay built into CB streams that makes it seem as if a model did not have time to react/respond. 5 seconds is a long time when it's a live feed.

 

[cbhours]

as far as i know the vast majority of models in australia dont belong to an agency...in fact i cant even recall a single communication from an australian agency. You randomly sent messages to streaming australian models in hopes that one of them belonged to the same agency?

 

[BlueEyezIrish]

Plot twist: you are the biggest threat to the model.

God And he is so fucking clueless too!

 

[Dubious]

Or she may simply be taking time off from camming, quit the industry, or any number of other possibilities, of course.

Let's see now. Disappears for a couple of weeks at Christmas? Yes, I immediately thought "locked up in a Bali hellhole prison" as well.

Aware. (see above )

Fucking hell mate.

G'day, by the way . Nice, friendly approach with which you've chosen to engage.

You need to get some perspective.

Plot twist: you are the biggest threat to the model.

Without intending to, I naively could be. Which is why I said "it is possible (probable?) that an agency is rightly taking measures to protect the model."

No, moderators cannot change their color to anything they want.

I have heard otherwise, from long-time moderators, who have told me that they can change their red color in order to blend in among the other viewers.

They also cannot ban anyone, only silence them.

Then who banned me . . and why? I sent my message in a "private' Tip Note, which only somebody logged in as the model could read. (plus, of course, CB . . and professional law enforcement who monitor streaming sites . . and any site remotely having to do with the sex industry, such as Amber Cutie, I assume)

I ban people all of the time without reading their tip notes because I parse them for violations and mentioning another model is a violation. You're advertising the model you're so very wrongly worried about to another model and that pisses us off

As I have mentioned before, I am a relatively new active viewing participant in the cam world, and was unaware that mentioning another model's name in a private Tip Note was a violation of CB's ToS. As for my note, I hadn't been aware that it may have pissed a couple models off, I don't know. Most of the models seemed genuinely nonplussed. Some of the models seemed genuinely concerned for another member of their community, and a few have offered to actively help and told me to check back in in a couple days.

you think we're so interconnected we know who is who and what they're doing

I have hoped / assumed that many (most?) models are interconnected with each other through various means, such as encrypted txt message threads, encrypted emails, and "models only" areas on site such as . . dammit . . the name of one is on the tip of my tongue . . oh, well, can't remember.

we don't fucking care!

It surprises me that models "don't fucking care" how other models are treated or what happens to other models. If this is true, it makes me feel a little sad.

This is why you should never watch "Banged up Abroad"

Never heard of it, but then again, I don't watch much except for "Stephen Colbert," "Jimmy Kimmel," "Seth Meyers," "The Daily Show," and the PBS Newshour.

you are horny.

Sadly, I haven't been "horny" in a few weeks . I am 50+ years old (decreased libido?) . . I am on low doses of anti-depressant & anti-anxiety medication (side affect: definite decrease in libido) . . I had vasectomy last April (may decrease libido?) . . and I traveled abroad about 4 of the past 6 months (no access / time / desire to watch porn / practice self love)

Dubious isn't aware of the 5 second delay built into CB streams that makes it seem as if a model did not have time to react/respond.

I am very aware of the delay. The model in whose room I was instantaneously banned was clothed, nowhere near her laptop, and I could see her arms and hands onscreen. She didn't ban me . . and she didn't possibly have time to read the Tip Note from where she was.

in hopes that one of them belonged to the same agency?

No . . actually I hadn't even considered this.
I was "asking if they can tell me . . anything."

God And he is so fucking clueless too

Guilty as charged.
My cluelessness about the sex industry is one of the reasons I love reading ACF and became a member: to educate myself.

 

[Vixxen81]

*sigh*

Moderators cannot change their color. Their name changes to red when a model gives them moderator status. It goes back when she removes the privilege.

Depending on the internet sitch of a model and her setup she could be dropping frames every few seconds and you didn't see it.

When someone is paranoid and starts white knighting for a cam model, I think they should get age verified and broadcast in order to learn how things actually work instead of just believing what people tell you.

No, I don't care if a model is sitting in jail because she knowingly broke decency laws...just like I wouldn't care if she broke into a bank and robbed it and got busted for that.

That said, I never said I didn't care how models are treated and if I didn't care I never would have responded to your initial DM about this on here...you got responses and then posted this here anyway....no one, literally no one, can help you here with this other than try to convince you to let it goooo and see if she returns.

 

[cexmental]

I have heard otherwise, from long-time moderators, who have told me that they can change their red color in order to blend in among the other viewers.

A user can use the gear icon to change their color status in chat. A moderator can not. I leave my color set to light-blue, and when I mod I am always red. However, modding can also be bot dependent. With my all-in-1-app, Synergy, I can moderate silently from any account I have, including my grey account. While the bot is doing all the work, the results are the same. A mod (regardless of tools) can not ban a user from entering a room. CB simply does not allow this! The person who banned you was either the model or someone with access to the model's account. I have been banned from models rooms by their studio owners while helping them to transition to an independent account.

Cheers,
Cexmental

 

[AudriTwo]

a model can ban a user for whatever reason or no reason. accept it and move on.

 

[bamdicted]

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You also realise that if an Australian broadcaster had been arrested for streaming on Bali, this would have been publised as a warning?

I have heard otherwise, from long-time moderators, who have told me that they can change their red color in order to blend in among the other viewers.

They lied to you.

Then who banned me . . and why? I sent my message in a "private' Tip Note, which only somebody logged in as the model could read. (plus, of course, CB . . and professional law enforcement who monitor streaming sites . . and any site remotely having to do with the sex industry, such as Amber Cutie, I assume)

The only one that can ban a user from a single room is the model account...So it is either the model, and you misjudged the time interval, or the model has an assistant/helper that is logged in on her model account and monitor the chat.

Yes CB can read that chat (and tipnotes), but I doubt they have the resources to do it in real-time. The same goes for 'Law enforcement'. @AmberCutie is a broadcaster on MFC that started this forum years ago, (un)fortunately she lacks the goddess-like abilities to monitor all chat on webcam sites.

As I have mentioned before, I am a relatively new active viewing participant in the cam world, and was unaware that mentioning another model's name in a private Tip Note was a violation of CB's ToS. As for my note, I hadn't been aware that it may have pissed a couple models off, I don't know. Most of the models seemed genuinely nonplussed. Some of the models seemed genuinely concerned for another member of their community, and a few have offered to actively help and told me to check back in in a couple days.

I have hoped / assumed that many (most?) models are interconnected with each other through various means, such as encrypted txt message threads, encrypted emails, and "models only" areas on site such as . . dammit . . the name of one is on the tip of my tongue . . oh, well, can't remember.

It surprises me that models "don't fucking care" how other models are treated or what happens to other models. If this is true, it makes me feel a little sad.

No . . actually I hadn't even considered this.
I was "asking if they can tell me . . anything."

Mentioning another models name in a tipnote is not against CB ToS, but it is considered bad manners.

During an average week 110.000+ models stream on CB, how would you think they would be interconnected?

Models 'do fucking care' about how models in general are treated, but if a model is knowingly breaking the law they also know that this could potentially harm all of them, so there is little support for that.

 

[Vixxen81]

You also realise that if an Australian broadcaster had been arrested for streaming on Bali, this would have been publised as a warning?

They lied to you.


The only one that can ban a user from a single room is the model account...So it is either the model, and you misjudged the time interval, or the model has an assistant/helper that is logged in on her model account and monitor the chat.

Yes CB can read that chat (and tipnotes), but I doubt they have the resources to do it in real-time. The same goes for 'Law enforcement'. @AmberCutie is a broadcaster on MFC that started this forum years ago, (un)fortunately she lacks the goddess-like abilities to monitor all chat on webcam sites.


Mentioning another models name in a tipnote is not against CB ToS, but it is considered bad manners.

During an average week 110.000+ models stream on CB, how would you think they would be interconnected?

Models 'do fucking care' about how models in general are treated, but if a model is knowingly breaking the law they also know that this could potentially harm all of them, so there is little support for that.

When you enter a room the rules tell you not to announce other rooms or websites, yes this means in public, but it also means in PM or tip notes to me. Suddenly seeing another model's name is jarring and takes me out of my head space. Why is this person in my room thinking about another model instead of me? And if the model being asked about isn't available anyway, log off or play with someone else without bringing her up.

 

[BlueEyezIrish]

When you enter a room the rules tell you not to announce other rooms or websites, yes this means in public, but it also means in PM or tip notes to me. Suddenly seeing another model's name is jarring and takes me out of my head space. Why is this person in my room thinking about another model instead of me? And if the model being asked about isn't available anyway, log off or play with someone else without bringing her up.

He is a migraine. and I know he is playing stupid just to be part of a discussion on this forum. Always saying he has mods talking about this and that. He is NOT new and probably lonely and wants to be a female model and lives through us. I Called it!

 

[bamdicted]

When you enter a room the rules tell you not to announce other rooms or websites, yes this means in public, but it also means in PM or tip notes to me. Suddenly seeing another model's name is jarring and takes me out of my head space. Why is this person in my room thinking about another model instead of me? And if the model being asked about isn't available anyway, log off or play with someone else without bringing her up.

I have always taken the 'announce' as meaning in public chat...not that I mention other rooms unless it is initiated by the broadcaster.

I have on occasion pointed broadcasters to this forum in tipnotes or PMs

 

[MarieElise]

Even if it were not bad manners to be mentioning other models, sending tip notes like that screams; "problematic over attached member, drama ahead". So I'd ban you for it too. We are on there trying to make money and work. You are bothering other models over something which is likely 100percent imaginary. It's rude.

I humored it via DM be ause you've been nice to me, but if you came in my room going on about it, Id block you too. Because the whole thing is ridiculous and likely mostly manufactured by her as something to talk about. A gardener looked at her, how odd It's the New Year's, she's a young cam model. She's off partying and doesn't give a fuck, while you are tripping.

Anyone with half a fucking brain would just lie and say they were skyping with their boyfriend, and how dare you walk into my hotel room unannounced! It really does scream manufactured drama.

 

[BlueEyezIrish]

Even if it were not bad manners to be mentioning other models, sending tip notes like that screams "problematic over attached member, drama ahead". So is ban you for it too. We are on there trying to make money and work. You are bothering other models over something which is likely 100percent imaginary. It's rude. I humored it via DM be ause you've been nice to me, but if you came in my room you g on about it, is block you too. Because the whole thing is ridiculous and likely mostly manufactured by her as something to talk about. It's the New Year's, she's a young cam model. She's off partying and doesn't give a fuck, while you are tripping.

PREACH!!! He is so Needy and Nosy and a Wannabe Cam Model

 

[misterical]

G'day, by the way . Nice, friendly approach with which you've chosen to engage.

Sometimes I feel the need to express my level of disbelief in a more vociferous manner. Usually in situations like when a model takes a couple of weeks off at Christmas and a member creates an utterly bizarre scenario all in his own head and then posts about it in a forum.

I have heard otherwise, from long-time moderators, who have told me that they can change their red color in order to blend in among the other viewers.

I'm loath to begin a sentence with "As a long-time moderator myself...." but let's be clear. If you are a moderator, you are red. You will be red for as long as you remain a moderator.

Then who banned me . . and why? I sent my message in a "private' Tip Note, which only somebody logged in as the model could read. (plus, of course, CB . . and professional law enforcement who monitor streaming sites . . and any site remotely having to do with the sex industry, such as Amber Cutie, I assume)

The model banned you. For asking weird psycho questions about random models and Bali prisons. You do realise how weird that is, right?

Sadly, I haven't been "horny" in a few weeks . I am 50+ years old (decreased libido?) . . I am on low doses of anti-depressant & anti-anxiety medication (side affect: definite decrease in libido) . . I had vasectomy last April (may decrease libido?) . . and I traveled abroad about 4 of the past 6 months (no access / time / desire to watch porn / practice self love)

I don't really care mate. That's your concern, not mine. I just tried to crack a joke and now I have your full medical history. Unnecessary.

I have hoped / assumed that many (most?) models are interconnected with each other through various means, such as encrypted txt message threads, encrypted emails, and "models only" areas on site such as . . dammit . . the name of one is on the tip of my tongue . . oh, well, can't remember.

There are literally tens of thousands of cam models. Do you think they all know each other? Really?

As stated elsewhere, if an Australian cam model had been arrested in Indonesia, it would no doubt feature on the news. The fact that it hasn't means it likely didn't happen. If she was ever in Bali in the first place that is. Models make up all sorts of stories about where they are located, mainly to discourage and confuse overly clingy fuckers with overactive imaginations from turning up at the door.

Just move on dude. She's home visiting the family for christmas, or has quit camming or is maybe actively hiding from you.

 

[MarieElise]

Honestly, I hate to be a perv, but this whole "the gardners are watching me" thing, is something I could see myself creating and spewing, if I had a bunch of members in my room, that I knew would get off to it. Maybe it's just me, but I have a lot of clients that enjoy imaginary scenarios of me fucking other men. And those guys usually pay really well. This whole industry is a lot of smoke and mirrors. I really wouldn't worry too much about stuff like this.

Guys pay me regularly to go private with them, and tell them imaginary stories about "gang bangs" I've had with random dudes, random places.
Idk, maybe I'm just OTT, but if I thought I could get more money, and fun out of it, I'd go with the hot gardener narrative...
God knows I've already gone with the fireman narrative a couple of times...
Just saying.
This could all be an imaginary story/ mind fuck, aimed as a play at some horny whale, who's into Voyeur.

 

[BlueEyezIrish]

Honestly, I hate to be a perv, but this whole "the gardners are watching me" thing, is something I could see myself creating and spewing, if I had a bunch of members in my room, that I knew would get off to it. Maybe it's just me, but I have a lot of clients that enjoy imaginary scenarios of me fucking other men. And those guys usually pay really well. This whole industry is a lot of smoke and mirrors. I really wouldn't worry too much about stuff like this.

Guys pay me regularly to go private with them, and tell them imaginary stories about "gang bangs" I've had with random dudes, random places.
Idk, maybe I'm just OTT, but if I thought I could get more money, and fun out of it, I'd go with the hot gardener narrative...
God knows I've already gone with the fireman narrative a couple of times...
Just saying.
This could all be an imaginary story/ mind fuck, aimed as a play at some horny whale, who's into Voyeur.

I lie all fucking day long and Men Bust so fucking hard! Gang Bangs. Bachelor Parties. Cruise Ship Orgy. Men love our Stories and they pay us so wonderfully for it! . Let’s get that Money

 

[MarieElise]

Cruise Ship Orgy.

Why is that one so popular? I never get that. In reality I'd probably be spewing everywhere on a cruise ship.
Pool boy and landscaper/ gardner are so popular too.

Nobody is practical with their fantasies. What about Accountants? Bankers? Mathematicians? International spies? Not only could they fuck your wife, but they could help you out with your day to day finances too and/or save your government? But no, it's always the firemen, landscapers, construction workers...

 

[BlueEyezIrish]

Why is that one so popular? I never get that. In reality I'd probably be spewing everywhere on a cruise ship.
Pool boy and landscaper/ gardner are so popular too.

Nobody is practical with their fantasies. What about Accountants? Bankers? Mathematicians? International spies? Not only could they fuck your wife, but they could help you out with your day to day finances too and/or save your government? But no, it's always the firemen, landscapers, construction workers...

Old gross dudes put door hangers on that show they want to have a freak off in their room and they spend an entire year on the ship. And the rooms gotta smell
Like a Fuckin nasty glory hole!!!

 

[gold_hippo]

Anyone who tips those non-nude Aussie agency rooms deserves to be banned. Tip actual cam girls! CB is a corn site, not Twitch. Take this as a lesson and spend your money more wisely. You are tipping girls who follow a script with agencies taking a cut of your tip; it's sad, dude. Also, you are not messaging the girl on OF; they don't know your existence, nor do they care. You are just a username in a chat room to them. It's crazy that people tip these rooms... when actual cam girls exist who actually care and will interact with you offline, etc. It makes no sense. The mod who banned you was her agent signed into her CB while she was live most likely "ghost mod" got you bud.

 

[Dubious]

Although I still don't necessarily understand exactly what you are getting at, I feel like you might be on the verge of ruining something that was previously fun for yourself.

MarieElise, you were correct . . although not about cam models and cam sites, fortunately, which I feel I have even a deeper admiration and respect for after informing myself further here on ACF and elsewhere.

For at least ten years I have genuinely enjoyed ACF, and although I felt I was prepared for the sarcasm, name-calling, and vitriol spewed by ACF sinecures, I was mistaken. I no longer have room in my "one wild and precious life" for the types of misplaced anger, judgement, and negativity such as I have repeatedly encountered here.

 

[misterical]

MarieElise, you were correct . . although not about cam models and cam sites, fortunately, which I feel I have even a deeper admiration and respect for after informing myself further here on ACF and elsewhere.

For at least ten years I have genuinely enjoyed ACF, and although I felt I was prepared for the sarcasm, name-calling, and vitriol spewed by ACF sinecures, I was mistaken. I no longer have room in my "one wild and precious life" for the types of misplaced anger, judgement, and negativity such as I have repeatedly encountered here.

It's people talking sense to you that you can't handle. Go and explain your Bali theory to someone in the street and watch their eyes widen. That model isn't in jail. There's a high chance she wasn't in bali in the first place. That hotel employee who walked into the room was probably her boyfriend, which she hastily had to explain away. The guys watching her was a fantasy she cooked up to entice the guys who masturbate to that kind of thing. You've talked yourself down a wormhole of craziness and the only thing we're doing is pointing that out to you.

 

[AudriTwo]

Anyone who tips those non-nude Aussie agency rooms deserves to be banned. Tip actual cam girls!

those are actual cam models. they are studio models where models who aren't apart of one are independent cammodels.

there are different types and some people need a physical studio because home isn't an option to work out of. some studios are dubious in their practices but not all of them are.

 

[MarieElise]

MarieElise, you were correct . . although not about cam models and cam sites, fortunately, which I feel I have even a deeper admiration and respect for after informing myself further here on ACF and elsewhere.

For at least ten years I have genuinely enjoyed ACF, and although I felt I was prepared for the sarcasm, name-calling, and vitriol spewed by ACF sinecures, I was mistaken. I no longer have room in my "one wild and precious life" for the types of misplaced anger, judgement, and negativity such as I have repeatedly encountered here.

I'm sorry you feel that way I do not agree with you, but I'm still sorry you feel that way nevertheless.