MFC Gripes

[Shaun__]

I went and looked. This is what an IP address that is not mine shows to new members. I think someone at your IP address has to be a member to see anything else.

 

[AmberCutie]

I have seen brand new members start with 900. Not sure what makes the difference but it does happen.

Yeah I am not as sure as I was about the 550, but I am pretty sure I've seen new members with 900/90 on 0 days, too.

It's available somehow.

 

[Shaun__]

I have seen brand new members start with 900. Not sure what makes the difference but it does happen.

Yeah I am not as sure as I was about the 550, but I am pretty sure I've seen new members with 900/90 on 0 days, too.

It's available somehow.

When I want a second account they start with everything I already have. So unless MFC glitched they already have an account, or they share an internet connection with someone else I think.

 

[MemberEd]

When I joined MFC about a year and a half ago I got the 900 token package.

 

[Just Me]

I can't comment on the 900 package being available to new members, been so long I forget what it said. I have noticed that accounts tend to be more oriented to the email address you use to sign up rather than the IP address when it comes to what packages are available to someone. When I used a different email address in the past to create a new member account I did not have the highest token packages available. If that is still true I do not know. No interest in creating any new accounts. :lol:

 

[trotskyleon]

When I signed up i had the option of $19.99, $49.99 and $74.99. ..

 

[Shaun__]

When I signed up i had the option of $19.99, $49.99 and $74.99. ..

Just to be clear I am not saying that is not true, it is just not supposed to happen. I can think of several things, while unlikely, that could accidentally cause it.

 

[UncleThursday]

When I signed up i had the option of $19.99, $49.99 and $74.99. ..

Just to be clear I am not saying that is not true, it is just not supposed to happen. I can think of several things, while unlikely, that could accidentally cause it.

Looking at my MFC mail (since I never get enough to bother deleting it), I reached 1k reward points on 3/27/10, on that same day they gave me the 900 token package, I remember noticing after I checked my MFC mail.

I reached platinum on 7/12/10, the day before my birthday. That day the $150 package opened up. Of course, I had also just lost my job at the time a few days before. :lol:

So, unless there is something like Shaun said, with someone on the IP address having an account, or after making the first purchase the processor noting the limit, I can't think of how 0 day members, as in true 0 day members, not second etc. accounts, could have the $75 available without something going wrong on MFC's end.

 

[LadyLuna]

Am I understanding correctly that people are saying something can't happen because in order for it to happen, something must be wrong on MFC's end?

Because we all know just how reliable MFC is... just how consistent MFC is... just how... I'll stop now.

Adding: Of course, there's one part where MFC is very consistend. Models earn 5 cents per token.

 

[Brad]

I signed up in October. I had never been to MFC before but I had been on a few other cam sites so I signed up as a premium meaning I paid the $20 from the get go. From that initial purchase I could then get up to the 900 token package. I recently started a basic account as I decided to change my user name since I ended up enjoying the site. I am going to eventually change over to only using that one so it will also become a premium. On THAT id I can buy the 900 token package so there is a case where someone can be a "new" member (or maybe more correctly a new id) and start with the 900 token package. I am guessing that either it is different when you start as a basic THEN upgrade to a premium OR it is because of my ip address and MFC knows that I am already a customer just on a different id.
:dontknow:

 

[pg240]

Since we're talking about tokens and someone commented on a member's stats, I'm curious about how many members make those stats available. If I remember correctly, preferences allow a member to block some of that information. Do many even bother to set those preferences? I'd have to check, but I think mine are set to show if I have tokens but not how many. Are reward points -- or whatever they're called -- also available for models to see? I can see where that would be pertinent information for you to know, to a certain extent anyway. Just curious. Certainly not a pressing matter.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Since we're talking about tokens and someone commented on a member's stats, I'm curious about how many members make those stats available. If I remember correctly, preferences allow a member to block some of that information. Do many even bother to set those preferences? I'd have to check, but I think mine are set to show if I have tokens but not how many. Are reward points -- or whatever they're called -- also available for models to see? I can see where that would be pertinent information for you to know, to a certain extent anyway. Just curious. Certainly not a pressing matter.

I currently have tokens and reward points set to be hidden. I usually have it this way unless I've been playing the PM game. But that might make some models upset so don't ask. :lol:

 

[rexcode]

Since we're talking about tokens and someone commented on a member's stats, I'm curious about how many members make those stats available. If I remember correctly, preferences allow a member to block some of that information. Do many even bother to set those preferences? I'd have to check, but I think mine are set to show if I have tokens but not how many. Are reward points -- or whatever they're called -- also available for models to see? I can see where that would be pertinent information for you to know, to a certain extent anyway. Just curious. Certainly not a pressing matter.

I block both of those. Frankly, I can't see what good can possibly come of walking around with my wallet and bank history pasted to my forehead.

 

[Shaun__]

Since we're talking about tokens and someone commented on a member's stats, I'm curious about how many members make those stats available. If I remember correctly, preferences allow a member to block some of that information. Do many even bother to set those preferences? I'd have to check, but I think mine are set to show if I have tokens but not how many. Are reward points -- or whatever they're called -- also available for models to see? I can see where that would be pertinent information for you to know, to a certain extent anyway. Just curious. Certainly not a pressing matter.

After seeing what some of the models on here say about it I set my reward points to show high, to help new models trust my ability to pay a little bit more. I think you get high at 1000 points, so that is not too big of a deal to share.

 

[Anonymous]

I realize that a member can choose to hide his tokens and reward points, which is fine. However, if you are new to a model's room and are asking her to go private with you, I don't think it's too much to ask that you at least unhide your tokens. That way, the model can see you're not one of those knuckleheads attempting to waste her time with a 70-token private.

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

Well you clearly dont know how the world works. MFC make it very clear that they offer more support the more you spend on them. Getting rid of a new user who spent $75 who they for them probably appears to a "problem" customer is hardly going to cost them (and probably save them in future, the trouble of investigating potential fraud transactions).

Just a note, you cannot buy a $75, 900 token package on your first day on MFC as a premium. You are limited to lower transactions for a certain (seemingly arbitrary) limit of time and/or tokens bought. I'm not even sure if you can buy the $50, 550 token package when first signing up. But I know you couldn't buy the 900 token package immediately after your first purchase.

This, alone, would make your story suspicious.

On my first purchase (roughly a year ago), I had the 200, 550, and 900 token options. I started with a 200. For my next purchase (not sure exactly how much later but probably not more than a week), I only had the 200 option at first, but I emailed explaining the other two options were missing, and MFC restored them within minutes.

 

[trotskyleon]

I realize that a member can choose to hide his tokens and reward points, which is fine. However, if you are new to a model's room and are asking her to go private with you, I don't think it's too much to ask that you at least unhide your tokens. That way, the model can see you're not one of those knuckleheads attempting to waste her time with a 70-token private.

Why is this wasting time? You get 60 tokens/min in a pvt. If its a short one like a minute the only one to lose out is the member.

Most new models dont know about this, heck they dont even know how much it costs for pvt or group anyway.

 

[NataliaGrey]

I realize that a member can choose to hide his tokens and reward points, which is fine. However, if you are new to a model's room and are asking her to go private with you, I don't think it's too much to ask that you at least unhide your tokens. That way, the model can see you're not one of those knuckleheads attempting to waste her time with a 70-token private.

Why is this wasting time? You get 60 tokens/min in a pvt. If its a short one like a minute the only one to lose out is the member.

Most new models dont know about this, heck they dont even know how much it costs for pvt or group anyway.

Your room count goes down a LOT when you leave the chatroom for a group, private, or even just away for a moment. When some guy wants to take you private for 30 seconds, you get 30 tokens, sure, but your room count is at most half of what it was, and it takes a while to get it back up. Those people might have wanted to tip you.

 

[trotskyleon]

I realize that a member can choose to hide his tokens and reward points, which is fine. However, if you are new to a model's room and are asking her to go private with you, I don't think it's too much to ask that you at least unhide your tokens. That way, the model can see you're not one of those knuckleheads attempting to waste her time with a 70-token private.

Why is this wasting time? You get 60 tokens/min in a pvt. If its a short one like a minute the only one to lose out is the member.

Most new models dont know about this, heck they dont even know how much it costs for pvt or group anyway.

Your room count goes down a LOT when you leave the chatroom for a group, private, or even just away for a moment. When some guy wants to take you private for 30 seconds, you get 30 tokens, sure, but your room count is at most half of what it was, and it takes a while to get it back up. Those people might have wanted to tip you.

Room count will go back up, especially for new models. Plus a lot would like to spy on a new model too. But if no one was tipping anyway its better to do short pvt? Generally I am reluctant to take new models pvt, because they dont know anything. Most new models are reluctat to do pvts and groups too.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

I realize that a member can choose to hide his tokens and reward points, which is fine. However, if you are new to a model's room and are asking her to go private with you, I don't think it's too much to ask that you at least unhide your tokens. That way, the model can see you're not one of those knuckleheads attempting to waste her time with a 70-token private.

Why is this wasting time? You get 60 tokens/min in a pvt. If its a short one like a minute the only one to lose out is the member.

Most new models dont know about this, heck they dont even know how much it costs for pvt or group anyway.

Your room count goes down a LOT when you leave the chatroom for a group, private, or even just away for a moment. When some guy wants to take you private for 30 seconds, you get 30 tokens, sure, but your room count is at most half of what it was, and it takes a while to get it back up. Those people might have wanted to tip you.

Room count will go back up, especially for new models. Plus a lot would like to spy on a new model too. But if no one was tipping anyway its better to do short pvt? Generally I am reluctant to take new models pvt, because they dont know anything. Most new models are reluctat to do pvts and groups too.

I don't like to accept privates unless I've had the guys in group with me first to know if they are wasting my time or not. Groups are less risky because you generally won't have three people trying to kill your room count. I very rarely have more than 3 people spy on me during a private (it shows during the show how many are spying on the model). When I go back to my room it takes about 15-30 minutes (or longer) to get the room count back up to what it was. I definitely could make the amount and more that I made in private in my chat, and I wouldn't have to work to get the people back in my room to get up in the "Most Popular Rooms" list (a lot of guys use that to choose the room they want to be in). If there are only 5 people when I get back instead of the 30 I had, then guess what...it takes forever to pick things back up. Usually it's pretty hard to get tipped in that first 15-30 minutes when you get back too, since no one is there or chatting. Also, I hate to be mean, but new models don't always know what they're doing, so even if their room count goes up...they don't necessarily know what to do next.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Why are we even talking about new models?

Taking a private only to have it ended before anything fun can really happen is SO disheartening and unfun. I know I'm not the only person who feel tokens aren't worth it if we aren't also left satisfied.

Also... I really honestly can't believe you are SO hellbent on arguing with EVERYONE that you will even argue with girls about 1 minute privates.
Dude, if the girl says it's hard to build her room back up, it's hard to build her room back up. You can't fucking argue with a persons experienced opinion of their personal time.
If I told you that I'm wearing an orange shirt and I hate bananas, would you argue that too.

Sorry... that was just fucking ridiculous.

 

[Sevrin]

If I told you that I'm wearing an orange shirt and I hate bananas, would you argue that too.

 

[Anonymous]

Why is this wasting time? You get 60 tokens/min in a pvt. If its a short one like a minute the only one to lose out is the member.

Most new models dont know about this, heck they dont even know how much it costs for pvt or group anyway.

It's wasting time because I worked to keep the attention of the guys who are currently in my public chat (who could turn into tipping regulars), and now I'm being taken away on a one-minute private (ain't much gonna happen in a one-minute private, so why bother?). And many of those guys in public chat will leave (when I go private) to go to a different room. That is why it's a waste of time.

I've had to explain this to guys on MFC before, and I'm getting tired of hearing their "Well, it's still money in your pocket...you girls should be grateful for the money" bullshit.

 

[Anonymous]

Room count will go back up, especially for new models. Plus a lot would like to spy on a new model too. But if no one was tipping anyway its better to do short pvt?

Don't worry. I've been a cam model for a few years now, and I know what I'm talking about. I don't need you to try to "school me" on how privates/room counts work. We know what's best for us, and we know what we're doing when we choose to decline privates. It's our decision, and it's our cam scores, and our money at stake.

And if I went private with every ding-dong who only had 70 tokens total, I'd be doing a lot of privates with guys going "Lemme see you fuck yo pussy real quick, ma...I'm tryna bust." :roll: Please.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Well hasn't this post gone way off the original point....

To the person who said they bought tokens first time and Mfc banned them/accused them of fraud, well, I don't know what happened, I do know that on the odd occasion Mfc can get it wrong. Out of hundreds of thousands of members visiting daily it does happen, though it's often made a massive fuss of. Not surprising, I'd be pretty pissed off if I spent that much money and simply got banned. It may be something to do with the card you used, or maybe something you did, but it may also just be a sucky situation. What it wasn't was Myfreecams going "yay this guy has given me money! let's steal it and ban him!" If they banned you then either there was a complaint made by you, you broke the rules in some way or for some reason they thought you were committing fraud, whether they're right or not isn't so relevant, what is, is that they genuinely thought something was up.

Now that sucks and everything, but I have no idea where it's even remotely similar or relevant to the original point. The original point was about pm's and a few other whinings about the rules which were explained. But mainly it's about the pm's. I don't see how having a completely different negative experience with Myfreecams makes the original point more valid...

Trot you said in an earlier post that it's up to the models to get myfreecams to fix this issue. I don't know how on earth it is up to us. Personally if I'm going to waste my time sending messages I'd rather get better protection for models who are being stalked and harassed by members. This is something I've never had a complaint before about and really I just don't care about. If someone really wants to speak to me then they can tip or mail me, or just speak in the public room.

The being taken private for not long has ruined nights for me on cam. Sometimes I've built the room numbers up, taken ages, people are chatting, someone tries taking me private then leaves within a few minutes, I come back and there are no people in the room, in that time the other people have found a different model to watch, yes it does fuck things up. 60 tokens is not worth it.
I don't really see why you're trying to argue about it.

Honestly I do believe in being friendly to strangers. Coming to a group of strangers complaining about their workplace and filling it with your gripes, which are actually things none of them can personally help isn't really friendly.
I know you're not trying to personally insult models, but come on, most people are pretty loyal. Myfreecams has many faults, I will not deny that, but it has changed my life and done a fuck load of good things for me. I don't appreciate having members bitching their faces off about really small insignificant things when it comes to my workplace. You're complaining about us not being friendly, yet you are just being rude! Before attacking us about our responses please just take a minute to think about how you are coming across. If you truly aren't a freeloader complaining that you actually have to pay more to talk to models (if this is the case then I really don't see the problem) then just take a step back and realise how you're coming across. We're not making you come across that way, it's you. If you're not then you can go back and rephrase things differently rather than attacking us about it. It's you who's given us that image so it is your job to change it (if that is what you want).

 

[mynameisbob84]

I realize that a member can choose to hide his tokens and reward points, which is fine. However, if you are new to a model's room and are asking her to go private with you, I don't think it's too much to ask that you at least unhide your tokens. That way, the model can see you're not one of those knuckleheads attempting to waste her time with a 70-token private.

Why is this wasting time? You get 60 tokens/min in a pvt. If its a short one like a minute the only one to lose out is the member.

Most new models dont know about this, heck they dont even know how much it costs for pvt or group anyway.

Yeah! Stupid wimminz! Probably don't even know what day it is! You tell 'em how it is, trotskyleon! :?

 

[LadyLuna]

It takes 30 seconds for a private to clear my room of everyone except the few regulars who have mutliple rooms up anyway. And for them, it takes a good 2 minutes to realize I'm back. That means that every private, regardless of how long or short it is, takes away an additional 2 minutes of my time after it's over. Thus, if a private only lasts 1 minute, I got 60 tokens for 3 minutes of time. Hence why I ask that privates last at least 3 minutes. I'm cool with needing to spend 2-5 minutes to rebuild my room if I just got 180 tokens, but that's me.

remember, 1 token = 5 cents. Divide the tokens by 20 to find out how much money I just got.

(1/20 = .05)

60/20 = $3

180/20 = $9

Now, think about it this way. you take a girl private, you just cleared out her room, so she has to basically start over as though she just logged on. Except, she now doesn't have MFC sending out the notifications to let people know that she just logged on, because she didn't just log on. She got back from private, but MFC doesn't send out an email or text message to let people know about that. So she's actually WORSE off than if she just logged on.

For a model who usually takes 1 hour to actually start earning money after logging on, after a private it will take her another hour and a half to start earning money again. This is where I'm at. Let's say that private happens an hour and a half into my shift. I've been earning a bit of money for the past half hour. I earn, on average, $15/hour, so during that half hour, I probably earned $10. If he takes me to a $3 private, I've earned $13 for 3 hours of work. That's less than a THIRD of what I would normally earn. If he takes me to a $9 private, I've earned $19 for 3 hours of work. That's two fifths of what I should have earned for that time on camera, but I can deal with that. (put it into 10ths, the first is 2/10 the second is 4/10) BUT, if that happens all night, well, I count that as a bad night on MFC, cause I'm likely walking away with $38 for the whole night (or $26, in the case of the 60 token private).

Now, some nights I get lucky, and it only takes me a half hour to regain my room. Let's look at that case. The $3 private, I earn $13 for 2 hours of work. A little less than half of what I should've earned. The $9 private, I earn $19 for 2 hours of work. That's two thirds of what I should've earned. Again, not exactly great, but I can deal with that.

For any model who earns over an average of $15 an hour, anything less than a 5 minute private is a loss of income.

Now, about the spies argument- the spies can't keep watching once the person who has initiated the private ends the session. If the private only lasts 1 minute, the model will be lucky if she had any spies at all. PLUS, people are very irrational about stuff like this. If the private ends before the spy is finished, he's likely to not spy on that model again. Even though it's not the model's fault. Even though it's the fault of the premium who started the private. The spy will think "she didn't give me a good show." She just lost future revenue. How do I know this? By the people who pm me during private trying to give me orders and getting mad that I don't follow them. By the people who type their orders in public chat, where the other members can laugh at it. By the number of pms and mfc mails I've gotten saying "I spied on that one private." followed by questions implying that I'm the one in control of the length of show, or implying that my privates must all look like the one they just saw.

So no, when a camgirl gets a 60-second private, she's not $3 richer. Likely, she's at least $10 behind where she would've been.

 

[trotskyleon]

@Isabella_del

1. I did suggest that is up to you models to get mfc to be more clear on the pming thing. The whole point of this thread or my topic, was to get your (and other models) thoughts on the issue. Its totally up to you whether you want to take it up with MFC or not. I just thought if a model has an issue with it, then MFC are more likely to do something about it (especially if a few models hark up). It is your workplace, I merely suggested an improvement that could be made.


About the PVT thing.

All I meant was, if there is no one tipping and not many in your room (and there are plenty of models room where both happens!) then there is no harm in doing a short pvt.

I am sorry if I am across as rude, but it doesnt help if someone posts with one liner - "vlad" or something random like that. You dont need to be nice to others, but there should be no reason to be rude!

And I am not attacking anyone. Just because I have differing views doesnt mean I am attacking.. Just the way you consider it your workplace, you also need to take our perspective, we are spending our money (money that can be easily spent elsewhere), and our TIME, its only natural that we will complain if we are not satisfied - is that wrong?

And I am not the type of guy to flaunt around - oh look I am rich guy i tipped this model and now I am mentioned on her profile page etc etc. I am not that type of guy. So I am not going introduce myself as I pay for everything or I do long pvts where we just chat or I tip to show my appreciation. I may or may not do those things, but definetly I dont go around saying it on this forum or on mfc.

I can be annoying or rude. I am sorry. But I am human and not a robot. The main thing is I don't specifically insult anyone and if I did I am sorry.

Consider me a freeloader, or a millionaire - I don't care. The initial point I made was very simple:

I didnt know that models were able to not accept pms at all, especially given MFC advertised that once you become premium everything is open to you. There is a difference to be able to pm and the model ignoring it and not being able to pm at all. So I simply suggested that MFC should update their wiki/feature list to disclose this - and wanted all of your opinions on that matter and ideally some support.

I didnt say I should be able to pm for free or to whomever i want! Thats simply what I thought I was able to do. After I realised that wasnt the case, I thought that MFC should update their wiki/site.

Instead, I was Vlad, rude, mean, cheap, freeloader, stupid etc. What upset me the most, was that you werent addressing the point I was trying to make but instead trying to imply that I was just some cheapo. If you read back you will see it. In fact I will show it you here:

You can communicate a quick note to any model by using a tip note. Does not have to be a large tip. Or you can send a MFC mail if your not in a hurry.

I don't want to speak to someone who is freeloading on me, has no intention of tipping me ever. Why on earth would I want to speak to you?

If a model does have her pm's open then I hope you'll buy tokens and tip her showing you're not just trying to take up her time (which will make her lose out on money).

If you want to pm a model then I very much hope you are planning on tipping her or taking her private.

Seeing as you've bought 200 tokens, why don't you find a few models you really like, see how much it costs to be on their friends lists, check out their videos for sale,

By your attitude it sounds like you're never going to do this, but, it's worth a try.

Man, I'm really sorry you can't bother models with your dirty talk in PM even though you paid the whole whopping $20 to become a premium member.

Why don't you let us know why it's so important to you to be able to PM models, but you can't pay whatever it takes to get on her friendslist/PM-list?

If you became a premium member only to be able to PM every model, with no intention of ever buying more tokens and spending them on those models, MFC is not for you.

The fact that you think that should force all models (even ones you never tip) to give you free attention is just baffling.

But I only add people I personally like. And you seem pretty mean. Models are people, and we can refuse interaction from you if we want to, just like real life.

If you really really want to know if I tip for things or not pm me (on this forum) and I will gladly satisfy your curiosity. I think only one model on here knows who i am (and by the way I am treated she is probably trying to hide from me :lol: , nah she is nice!).

I know i started the topic, but it was really you lot who made it all about me and me and me and only me! I can understand you must get a lot of guys on here and on mfc trying to freeload. But I don't think I ever stated anywhere that I would not tip a model. Anyway, lets leave it. Nothing to be gained here.

It would be nice if this thread was locked or deleted etc. Otherwise we all will be wasting our time when we could be having fun playing the word game! :mrgreen:

 

[emptiedglass]

It takes 30 seconds for a private to clear my room of everyone except the few regulars who have mutliple rooms up anyway. And for them, it takes a good 2 minutes to realize I'm back. That means that every private, regardless of how long or short it is, takes away an additional 2 minutes of my time after it's over. Thus, if a private only lasts 1 minute, I got 60 tokens for 3 minutes of time. Hence why I ask that privates last at least 3 minutes. I'm cool with needing to spend 2-5 minutes to rebuild my room if I just got 180 tokens, but that's me.

remember, 1 token = 5 cents. Divide the tokens by 20 to find out how much money I just got.

(1/20 = .05)

60/20 = $3

180/20 = $9

Now, think about it this way. you take a girl private, you just cleared out her room, so she has to basically start over as though she just logged on. Except, she now doesn't have MFC sending out the notifications to let people know that she just logged on, because she didn't just log on. She got back from private, but MFC doesn't send out an email or text message to let people know about that. So she's actually WORSE off than if she just logged on.

For a model who usually takes 1 hour to actually start earning money after logging on, after a private it will take her another hour and a half to start earning money again. This is where I'm at. Let's say that private happens an hour and a half into my shift. I've been earning a bit of money for the past half hour. I earn, on average, $15/hour, so during that half hour, I probably earned $10. If he takes me to a $3 private, I've earned $13 for 3 hours of work. That's less than a THIRD of what I would normally earn. If he takes me to a $9 private, I've earned $19 for 3 hours of work. That's two fifths of what I should have earned for that time on camera, but I can deal with that. (put it into 10ths, the first is 2/10 the second is 4/10) BUT, if that happens all night, well, I count that as a bad night on MFC, cause I'm likely walking away with $38 for the whole night (or $26, in the case of the 60 token private).

Now, some nights I get lucky, and it only takes me a half hour to regain my room. Let's look at that case. The $3 private, I earn $13 for 2 hours of work. A little less than half of what I should've earned. The $9 private, I earn $19 for 2 hours of work. That's two thirds of what I should've earned. Again, not exactly great, but I can deal with that.

For any model who earns over an average of $15 an hour, anything less than a 5 minute private is a loss of income.

Now, about the spies argument- the spies can't keep watching once the person who has initiated the private ends the session. If the private only lasts 1 minute, the model will be lucky if she had any spies at all. PLUS, people are very irrational about stuff like this. If the private ends before the spy is finished, he's likely to not spy on that model again. Even though it's not the model's fault. Even though it's the fault of the premium who started the private. The spy will think "she didn't give me a good show." She just lost future revenue. How do I know this? By the people who pm me during private trying to give me orders and getting mad that I don't follow them. By the people who type their orders in public chat, where the other members can laugh at it. By the number of pms and mfc mails I've gotten saying "I spied on that one private." followed by questions implying that I'm the one in control of the length of show, or implying that my privates must all look like the one they just saw.

So no, when a camgirl gets a 60-second private, she's not $3 richer. Likely, she's at least $10 behind where she would've been.

Ah, now I think I understand why certain models log out for a few minutes after a private (they don't have many regular members). Always figured it was to go have a smoke or something.

 

[LadyLuna]

trotskyleon,

MFC only listens to us models when they directly ask us for input. Otherwise, they don't care. Truly, the best way to get them to change something is to get a few of the high earning models and a LOT of the high-tipping members to complain about it. You'd have to mobilize a LOT of people.

The thing you want to change is adding small text to the end of the wiki. The email form-letter I wrote up earlier can still be used. It just won't be as effective without the hit to their money flow.