The mere fact that you used the word "if" is proof of the optional nature of the job. Again, models seem to be under the impression that they are owed tips. That is not true. Just like a stripper in a club or a waitress in a restaurant, you HOPE for tips. If you want a more stable income, then work a different job. Construction workers are under the risk of injury. Lawyers are under risk of being targeted. Models are under risk of fluctuating income. That's just how it goes. There is no nice way of saying this. If you don't like fluctuating income, then don't be a model. I'm not trying to sound rude or demeaning. That is just purely and simply the truth of the job. Just...look at the two following things you said.
That is describing the model's reaction, not the fault of the user. It is like saying "It is your fault that I am offended." No, it is your choice to be offended. If I say "I like apples" and someone is somehow offended by that statement, it doesn't become my fault. It doesn't necessarily make it their fault, either. However, it was their decision to be offended by the statement, not mine, and therefor not my responsibility to amend my statement to conform to someone else's reaction to it.
"They don't feel "entitled" to see a show. They are reaping the benefits of others' generosity, such is the nature of the site. None of them (or at least the reasonable ones) EXPECT you to get naked without tips. They just aren't the ones tipping. So when others tip, they enjoy the rewards with everyone, like buying a round of beer for the bar. A similar example is a woman going to the bar without her wallet because she EXPECTS men to buy her drinks.
Actually, that is EXACTLY what is expected of a model. Not to give free entertainment in general, but to give free entertainment to those who do not pay because of the generosity of those who DO pay. Again, it is like one person paying the bill for everyone that goes out to eat. The restaurant isn't expected to give free food. They are expected to give food in exchange for money, regardless of the specifics of who gives them that money. Are the non-payers at fault for not paying? Of course not. One of the people was generous enough to take care of the entire bill so nobody else had to pay, and the restaurant isn't mad at the people that didn't have to pay because they still got the money they were owed for their services. That's how MFC works.
I realize that I am not going to change your mind. I realize that no matter how many models tell you that freeloading hurts them and their business, you will probably find a reason to justify it. For someone who shows such logic, you seem to be showing a surprising lack of empathy for the people whose business you are visiting, every single day. That isn't being a fan. That isn't being a valuable member of the community. In one breath you say that models are expected to perform for free (except for the generosity of others), and the next you are saying that they accept the risk of not being paid and are choosing to be offended. You don't want to pay and you want to see the shows, and yet you make it sound like the model's fault for expecting to be paid for her job once in a while. That kind of logic is just... flabbergasting to me and I truly, honestly cannot follow it. It makes no sense to me. Yes, I am offended when people take advantage of me and what I try to give to others. I am offended when people take advantage of my friends and the people who actually care enough to support their models. But if I had to choose, I would rather be offended when I see people taking advantage of others, than be selfish enough to be the person taking advantage of others with no qualms.
But in your example... We models are the restaurant. MFC may own the building we rent it in, but we are the restaurants themselves. We make the food. We each have a different theme. We set the tables. We spend our time creating a stunning feast for patrons to enjoy. We show up every single day and open the doors. So yes, the restaurant does get frustrated when customers come in night after night after night, drinking and eating our food, and telling us to our faces that if we didn't want people to eat our food for free, we shouldn't be offering it. Whaaaat?! The restaurant is totally allowed to be mad. I am literally sitting here and telling you that the restaurant does get upset, and yet you are still trying to justify it. By saying that it is our fault. Well, if I am a restaurant who offers delicious food and drink to everyone, I am sure as heck allowed to be frustrated when dozens of people come to my doors every day for YEARS and refuse to pay, and even worse - just wait around for someone else to pay for them.
The logic of your last post is the absolute definition of freeloading justification, and it truly makes me sad to see. I guess I have too much respect and empathy towards the models whose company I enjoy, who work so hard to plan events, who spend money in order to create a fun time for everyone... I want to see them succeed. I want to make them smile. I want them to recognize how much I appreciate them and their work and their presence. If someone does their job well, they deserve to be paid for it. I want them to be paid for it. I appreciate their shows, their conversation, their friendship, their persons - that I don't want them to have to quit their job.
But going back to the restaurant analogy... If I want to eat a restaurant, I don't go to one every single day in hopes of riding off of the coattails of someone else's generosity. That is disrespectful and practically the definition of entitlement. Feeling that you deserve to go to a restaurant and eat when you don't have any money, and just wait and wait and wait for someone to be generous. That's absolutely ludicrous. I don't know a single restaurant who would allow someone to come into their establishment every single day, take a seat, and they refuse to order even a single drink. For hours. Every single day. Just waiting for someone to buy them a meal. That is hurtful to the business, and they are well within their rights to kick out that person for loitering. Most restaurants do, in fact. Because it is better for their business. But I don't see masses of men going to fine restaurants every day in the real world looking for handouts - so why do so many people justify it on the internet?
If I cannot afford to eat a restaurant, I don't go. It's that simple. I have too much respect for the cooks, the waiters, and my fellow patrons to take advantage of them like that. Just because I want fancy food does not mean that I deserve it if I cannot pay. Or rather, if I have absolutely zero intentions of paying. If someone buys me food at a restaurant one day? I will return the favor the next time. I don't show up again and again and again, just
waiting for the next person to come along to buy me something. It is absolutely mind-boggling. I cannot comprehend that kind of selfishness, and I am glad that I don't. In my opinion, you can't get any more entitled than that.
What is the definition of freeloading? According to the dictionary, "to take advantage of others for free food, entertainment, etc.". And that is what your previous post is justifying here. Taking advantage of the model's time and energy. Taking advantage of a few people with pockets... And showing absolutely no shame in it. If you never ever have any intention of tipping, but keep waiting for someone to pay the way for you to see the show, then you are taking advantage of another person's generosity. If you refuse to ever support a model, no matter how many times you visit, no matter how many smiles she has given you, then you don't deserve her amazingness. I hope she has true supporters who enjoy her restaurant enough to want to see it staying open, who want to pay for the food they eat and they drinks they drink, and not just take advantage of the generosity of other paying customers.
I think that makes me more upset. If someone does not think I am worth tipping, so be it! There are other rooms! But to see someone wait for a member to pay their way and take advantage of a member who just wants to show their support and appreciation for me... Freeloading off of their generosity... That upsets me worse than not being tipped. And I know many other models feel the same about their regulars.
Again... I realize none of this will change your mind. It's almost amazing how many times I have seen people come to a cam-girl forum and try to say that they deserve to enjoy all of what we offer, and yet also say that they never intend to pay and should not have to pay and imply that it is silly to expect to be paid - yet they expect to enjoy the show someone else pays for. It's wild to me.
We models aren't asking to be tipped every single day. Not at all. We give away a lot of free food and free wine and free soda. Because we're pretty darn awesome like that. We try to make ourselves a pretty classy establishment for everyone to enjoy, a community where everyone can stop in and find a smile. We just expect our customers who visit our restaurant and eat our food and drink our wines to... Sometimes... Occasionally... Chip in. They don't have to buy the entire bar a drink. Just buy a drink for themselves now and then. Or buy someone else a drink for a change. I really don't think that is too much to ask.
If people don't want to pay for a drink or eat at a restaurant... Y'know... Maybe they should consider just not going. Or not being surprised or offended when they get kicked out for continuously loitering and taking advantage of others.
I am sorry, Amber. I realize that this is derailing the thread. And we all know that my post isn't going to help, and we all know the justifications that will come next because we've seen it a thousand times, and it never changes. I'll try to resist replying again, I promise.