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KudosKids said:
The cam industry is very over saturated. Its a fairy tale job. Who wouldn't want to sit in front of the camera entertaining people and be your own boss for money? So the second a female see's the whole "become a cam model and make 1000$ a week" There obviously going to be like "FUCK YEAH I CAN DO THAT"

Ok I'm not saying camming is a horrible job, but if you think it's a fairytale job you really should open your eyes. Most women do not want to cam. Sure the money sounds good and it seems like a tempting idea to many, but believe me, most women don't actually want to ever do it. Camming is something that girls either do because they're a particular type of person that likes the idea of this kind of work or they are in a position where they have very few other choices (and usually are also the kinds of people who are sexual and open).
I think a lot of men would love the idea of camming and making this sort of money (whether they'd go through with it or not) but most women just aren't into the idea however much money they were being offered.

You say "who wouldn't want to sit in front of the camera entertaining people?" well, most people wouldn't! Hence why camming is such a high paid job. Sure there are loads of camgirls but we still equal a minute percentage of women on this planet. Women who have the option of camming if they chose and choose not to.

A lot of the world is in economic crisis, men and women alike, meaning more women are pushed into a situation where camming is a more realistic option and less men have the income to pay money towards camgirls. Mfc is changing with the times.
 
Ataboy said:
Its the over-saturation of the industry. Even the camscores of the top models I am noticing are going down. Models at your level are staying put and new models dont get past the 1500 mark anymore. If they dont give up within 3 days that is. To be fair this is mostly due to their own ineptitude. Just way too many models to spread out the customer base. Hell the only time I see what you could call a lot of members in a room is when the model is doing a fake library or cafe show where nothing really happens. Or when they are doing a cumshow. And that goes for the top models too. I never see more 2-300 members Jalyn or Candiecanes rooms anymore...unless again...they are doing the cum show. But Honeysukl gets 4000 members when doing her very nonpublic yet public gym or library show. Youre doing nothing wrong. In fact youre doing it "more right" <sorry for the bad grammar> than she is. The market has just changed. And thats unfortunate.

Another thing is that MFC's business plan of free cams may be coming back to haunt the models. Notice I did not say Leo? It has caused way too many freeloaders. Why would someone tip or go pvt if he/she is getting a free show. Also, why would I go into a models room with a 4000 camscore and pay 200 tokens to spin the wheel..when I can offer a new model 100 tokens to do a 15 min cumshow?

You make a good point. Last night as I popped into LilahMorgan's room, I also checked Jalyn, since she was the "top model" on at that time. Same number of members. The most popular room at that time had a g/g/g show going on. Tough to compete with that, but also I did not see many tippers.
 
Isabella_deL said:
KudosKids said:
The cam industry is very over saturated. Its a fairy tale job. Who wouldn't want to sit in front of the camera entertaining people and be your own boss for money? So the second a female see's the whole "become a cam model and make 1000$ a week" There obviously going to be like "FUCK YEAH I CAN DO THAT"

Ok I'm not saying camming is a horrible job, but if you think it's a fairytale job you really should open your eyes. Most women do not want to cam. Sure the money sounds good and it seems like a tempting idea to many, but believe me, most women don't actually want to ever do it. Camming is something that girls either do because they're a particular type of person that likes the idea of this kind of work or they are in a position where they have very few other choices (and usually are also the kinds of people who are sexual and open).
I think a lot of men would love the idea of camming and making this sort of money (whether they'd go through with it or not) but most women just aren't into the idea however much money they were being offered.

You say "who wouldn't want to sit in front of the camera entertaining people?" well, most people wouldn't! Hence why camming is such a high paid job. Sure there are loads of camgirls but we still equal a minute percentage of women on this planet. Women who have the option of camming if they chose and choose not to.

A lot of the world is in economic crisis, men and women alike, meaning more women are pushed into a situation where camming is a more realistic option and less men have the income to pay money towards camgirls. Mfc is changing with the times.

I should've worded it differently. Those camming banners make it sound like a fairy tale job. Majority of the united states has to go to college and get a degree of some sorts to make 4grand a month. Now when someone see's a offer for you to make that much money with what doesn't even sound like much work. I can take a guess out of a room of 100 girls between the ages of 18-24 I would guess that half of them would take that offer up. I understand camming is of all ages, but more popular within that age group. The matter of the fact is, it doesn't matter what industry it is. Most people will do almost anything for easy money. Not that camming is easy money, not if you want to actually make that 4 grand a month. But when you make it sound easy people will gather around that idea. Also in times of economic crisis the sex industry actually profits more. Why? Because men are stressed, marriages become stressed, and they will waste money just for some relaxation and time away from reality.
 
KudosKids said:
Isabella_deL said:
KudosKids said:
The cam industry is very over saturated. Its a fairy tale job. Who wouldn't want to sit in front of the camera entertaining people and be your own boss for money? So the second a female see's the whole "become a cam model and make 1000$ a week" There obviously going to be like "FUCK YEAH I CAN DO THAT"

Ok I'm not saying camming is a horrible job, but if you think it's a fairytale job you really should open your eyes. Most women do not want to cam. Sure the money sounds good and it seems like a tempting idea to many, but believe me, most women don't actually want to ever do it. Camming is something that girls either do because they're a particular type of person that likes the idea of this kind of work or they are in a position where they have very few other choices (and usually are also the kinds of people who are sexual and open).
I think a lot of men would love the idea of camming and making this sort of money (whether they'd go through with it or not) but most women just aren't into the idea however much money they were being offered.

You say "who wouldn't want to sit in front of the camera entertaining people?" well, most people wouldn't! Hence why camming is such a high paid job. Sure there are loads of camgirls but we still equal a minute percentage of women on this planet. Women who have the option of camming if they chose and choose not to.

A lot of the world is in economic crisis, men and women alike, meaning more women are pushed into a situation where camming is a more realistic option and less men have the income to pay money towards camgirls. Mfc is changing with the times.

I should've worded it differently. Those camming banners make it sound like a fairy tale job. Majority of the united states has to go to college and get a degree of some sorts to make 4grand a month. Now when someone see's a offer for you to make that much money with what doesn't even sound like much work. I can take a guess out of a room of 100 girls between the ages of 18-24 I would guess that half of them would take that offer up. I understand camming is of all ages, but more popular within that age group. The matter of the fact is, it doesn't matter what industry it is. Most people will do almost anything for easy money. Not that camming is easy money, not if you want to actually make that 4 grand a month. But when you make it sound easy people will gather around that idea. Also in times of economic crisis the sex industry actually profits more. Why? Because men are stressed, marriages become stressed, and they will waste money just for some relaxation and time away from reality.

She's not saying you're wrong about how the banners make it sound, what Isabella is saying is if you poll a handful of girls about whether or not they'd consider masturbating on the internet for $1000 a week most of them would slap you. I know when it was suggested to me (2 years prior to me actually deciding to) I was offended as hell. That's a typical reaction for most women. It takes a certain kind of girl and a high degree of comfort with your sexuality to even apply as a camgirl.
 
Some women won't ever be comfortable getting naked online no matter how comfortable they are with their sexuality. A woman being comfortable with her sexuality doesn't mean willingness to get naked for money. I think many become camgirls out of necessity, no other options, don't have the schooling or connections to get a better paying job. If given the choice between sitting at a desk or traveling and making over 10 grand a month or getting naked for strangers online for 10 grand a month, pretty sure most would take the desk job. I'm sure some wouldn't tho, camming is life for some.

Sorry that I have nothing to add that could help op, just really high and really bored, your new avatar is awesome tho.
 
SexyStephXS said:
She's not saying you're wrong about how the banners make it sound, what Isabella is saying is if you poll a handful of girls about whether or not they'd consider masturbating on the internet for $1000 a week most of them would slap you. I know when it was suggested to me (2 years prior to me actually deciding to) I was offended as hell. That's a typical reaction for most women. It takes a certain kind of girl and a high degree of comfort with your sexuality to even apply as a camgirl.

I don't know a lot of 18-24 woman IRL,but I bet most would react exactly that way. Perhaps a fair might fantasize about it, but seriously actually doing it is a much smaller number. The stigma of posing for Playboy is considerably less than being a camgirl, yet when the Playboy does their annual college like this months Girls of the ACC, they don't even get 100 girls trying out now.
 
Another thing is that MFC's business plan of free cams may be coming back to haunt the models. Notice I did not say Leo?

The one thing I can say you are wrong about is, myfreecams has always been myfreecams. There has always been freeloaders. But with that I swear they also have the highest tippers and the most respected cam models. They are the most profitable cam site ever. So having the option to be a viewer for free clearly doesn't hurt them in anyway.

Which is why I qualified my statement with "Notice i did not say say Leo". Yes...MFC is making more and more money everyday. But, with a greater distribution for the tokens, individually, the business levels of the models are slowly going down.
 
SexyStephXS said:
Ataboy said:
Its the over-saturation of the industry. Even the camscores of the top models I am noticing are going down.

The formula for camscore is constantly in flux. The camscore of top models are going down because the average tokens per hour across the site is going up.

I refer you to my last post. This is exactly my point. MFC continues to make money, while the individual models income and hence camscore is going down.
 
Ataboy said:
SexyStephXS said:
Ataboy said:
Its the over-saturation of the industry. Even the camscores of the top models I am noticing are going down.

The formula for camscore is constantly in flux. The camscore of top models are going down because the average tokens per hour across the site is going up.

I refer you to my last post. This is exactly my point. MFC continues to make money, while the individual models income and hence camscore is going down.

The average camscore is 1000 by definition.(Ignore the girls that stop camming.) Now the amount of tokens/dollar per hour that it takes get to that 1000 camscore is changing, if it is going up as Steph says than girls are making more per hour, which is the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

There are lot of factors involved, and honestly the only person who has chance of giving us a true picture of what is going on is the guy who runs mycamgirl.net.

My belief is that top 1% (roughly MFC 250) is getting an increasingly large share of the total $ to the detriment of the other 99%, but I could be completely wrong on that.
But really the only important questions is this." Is member spending increasing at faster rate than the number of new models, and the total hours they work." If it is faster that's good for models, slower that's bad.

Sorry Lilah for derailing the thread, but it's the internet.
 
SexyStephXS said:
KudosKids said:
Isabella_deL said:
KudosKids said:
The cam industry is very over saturated. Its a fairy tale job. Who wouldn't want to sit in front of the camera entertaining people and be your own boss for money? So the second a female see's the whole "become a cam model and make 1000$ a week" There obviously going to be like "FUCK YEAH I CAN DO THAT"

Ok I'm not saying camming is a horrible job, but if you think it's a fairytale job you really should open your eyes. Most women do not want to cam. Sure the money sounds good and it seems like a tempting idea to many, but believe me, most women don't actually want to ever do it. Camming is something that girls either do because they're a particular type of person that likes the idea of this kind of work or they are in a position where they have very few other choices (and usually are also the kinds of people who are sexual and open).
I think a lot of men would love the idea of camming and making this sort of money (whether they'd go through with it or not) but most women just aren't into the idea however much money they were being offered.

You say "who wouldn't want to sit in front of the camera entertaining people?" well, most people wouldn't! Hence why camming is such a high paid job. Sure there are loads of camgirls but we still equal a minute percentage of women on this planet. Women who have the option of camming if they chose and choose not to.

A lot of the world is in economic crisis, men and women alike, meaning more women are pushed into a situation where camming is a more realistic option and less men have the income to pay money towards camgirls. Mfc is changing with the times.

I should've worded it differently. Those camming banners make it sound like a fairy tale job. Majority of the united states has to go to college and get a degree of some sorts to make 4grand a month. Now when someone see's a offer for you to make that much money with what doesn't even sound like much work. I can take a guess out of a room of 100 girls between the ages of 18-24 I would guess that half of them would take that offer up. I understand camming is of all ages, but more popular within that age group. The matter of the fact is, it doesn't matter what industry it is. Most people will do almost anything for easy money. Not that camming is easy money, not if you want to actually make that 4 grand a month. But when you make it sound easy people will gather around that idea. Also in times of economic crisis the sex industry actually profits more. Why? Because men are stressed, marriages become stressed, and they will waste money just for some relaxation and time away from reality.

She's not saying you're wrong about how the banners make it sound, what Isabella is saying is if you poll a handful of girls about whether or not they'd consider masturbating on the internet for $1000 a week most of them would slap you. I know when it was suggested to me (2 years prior to me actually deciding to) I was offended as hell. That's a typical reaction for most women. It takes a certain kind of girl and a high degree of comfort with your sexuality to even apply as a camgirl.

May I ask Miss Steph, what changed your mind after those 2 years? Maybe from the specific state I am from is because I would probably be more shocked that girls wouldn't do it versus not doing it. Now I do believe many girls would deny the fact they would do it. But I know they would still do it. And if people would stop looking down on it, then these girls could live in peace. What is so wrong, with having a nice body and a awesome personality and making money off of it? Use what you got while you have it! Relationships these days are so casual. The word love gets thrown around like it means nothing. Maybe people just want to have that connection without having to be tied down to it. That is what the sex industry gives us. If we lived in a world where people accepted it and stopped looking down on it as something that is wrong and demeaning. I don't think any woman would have a problem being in the industry. I would love to hear your perspective as to what changed your mind about doing this type of work. That is if your comfortable. Ignore me if not lol.
 
The reason I know that most women would not do this is because I've asked many of my friends. Even when their boyfriends have said they're completely ok with it they've still said no. Sure they're curious about it but they wouldn't actually go through with it. Two of my best friends came on cam with me about 2 years ago when we were getting drunk at mine out of curiosity. We had a laugh and one of my friends got pretty into it. She's gorgeous and would undoubtably have made a shit load of money, in fact that hour or so that we came on the tips were flowing like crazy. Her boyfriend said he'd have been ok with it and she did consider it as she was so broke, but even two years later she never followed through with it despite having serious money troubles most of the time. This is just one example, but I've spoken to many of my friends about it and they all say they couldn't go through with it. Hell, I never wanted to cam. I probably wouldn't have as I didn't want my face on screen. It was nothing to do with the stigma, I didn't want to have my face out there for god knows who to see. That changed for me because I was in a situation where I needed the money and had no other job options. I'd originally wanted to do phone sex but couldn't find anywhere decent to do it, I found MFC and it seemed to good to be true, but when I started earning money and the money actually went into my bank account I couldn't believe it.

Pretty much every woman is aware that if they went and became a stripper, prostitute, camgirl, pornstar etc they'd probably be able to make shit loads of money. The reason they don't isn't because of stigma etc, it's because they do not want to do these things. I don't know how many close female friends you have in the 18-24 range but as I am in that range and have a lot of female friends I can honestly say that none of my friends want to do my job. Not even the super sexual ones. I actually find it almost insulting that you have such a low opinion of young women that you think they'd all perform sexual acts they really don't want to perform for the offer of money. Girls who actually become camgirls do it for a range of reasons. Sure for me the money was a big thing, but honestly I largely loved the idea of it. That was what made the decision for me.

Girls my age are not as money driven as a lot of people think they are. Maybe being on the internet makes people think they are but most young women I know are perfectly happy grinding away at their minimum wage jobs even after knowing how much I can earn on cam. They say they respect me for being able to do it but admit that it's not something they ever feel they could do.

But hey, what do I know? Maybe you should test the theory on all of your 18-24 year old female friends and see if they actually start camming when told how much they could make.
 
Well its not a theory, its a fact from what I've seen, I mean yeah girls either love it or there ashamed of doing it. But I think a lot of them would try it. . I'm not that old lol, you make me sound like some creepy dad chillin with the college crowd. And I don't have a poor perspective on women, I just have a poor perspective on our young generation. As time goes on, it seems like its easier and easier to get money in "Immoral" ways. People will settle for less versus working hard for more because of the fact its not hard work. School is way to expensive to waste money on. Also on the other hand they have so many decisions its hard to make just one. And the economy got so bad at one point college graduates weren't even getting jobs. So why try right? It really wasn't that long ago when I graduated high school. But I was the oddball out because I didn't go to college or the military right away. Nowadays, thats completely normal among that age group. I understand why. I'm just hoping that in the end of this all, they will be the change we wish to see. But after all that, I'm just saying I'm surprised a cam girl would personally look down on her own job. I can see your point that people in general probably go to camming because of money troubles. But at least after there first week or two they end up loving the job. Maybe not because they have to get naked. But you get to be your own boss and in my opinion whether your making 15grand or 80 grand a year. Your rich in my eyes just because you are your own boss. No matter how you do it. Its total freedom. And thats what MERICA is about. (as long as the government makes money off you also lol)
 
KudosKids said:
Well its not a theory, its a fact from what I've seen, I mean yeah girls either love it or there ashamed of doing it. But I think a lot of them would try it. . I'm not that old lol, you make me sound like some creepy dad chillin with the college crowd. And I don't have a poor perspective on women, I just have a poor perspective on our young generation. As time goes on, it seems like its easier and easier to get money in "Immoral" ways. People will settle for less versus working hard for more because of the fact its not hard work. School is way to expensive to waste money on. Also on the other hand they have so many decisions its hard to make just one. And the economy got so bad at one point college graduates weren't even getting jobs. So why try right? It really wasn't that long ago when I graduated high school. But I was the oddball out because I didn't go to college or the military right away. Nowadays, thats completely normal among that age group. I understand why. I'm just hoping that in the end of this all, they will be the change we wish to see. But after all that, I'm just saying I'm surprised a cam girl would personally look down on her own job. I can see your point that people in general probably go to camming because of money troubles. But at least after there first week or two they end up loving the job. Maybe not because they have to get naked. But you get to be your own boss and in my opinion whether your making 15grand or 80 grand a year. Your rich in my eyes just because you are your own boss. No matter how you do it. Its total freedom. And thats what MERICA is about. (as long as the government makes money off you also lol)
Discussing in such a way on a forum is pretty pointless if you are going to act so dismissive towards views that don't support your initial assertion. These ladies you are talking to do understand the female perspective, and are trying to convey that to you.

I don't believe being your own boss is all lilies and butterflies.

Now i'm wondering how on earth this conversation strayed so far from the original topic.
 
How on earth is that a fact?! The number of camgirls Vs non-camgirls is huuuuugely indicative that most girls would not try it. Camming (and other sex work) isn't some hidden secret, most girls know about it and choose not to.

I've been in sex work since I was 18,and am open to my friends about it. A lot of them think it sounds fun and scandalous but would never do it for a variety of reasons. They aren't ashamed to admit they're interested but when push comes to shove, they don't really want to be in this position and that is totally understandable.
 
Charrman said:
Discussing in such a way on a forum is pretty pointless if you are going to act so dismissive towards views that don't support your initial assertion. These ladies you are talking to do understand the female perspective, and are trying to convey that to you.

I don't believe being your own boss is all lilies and butterflies.

Now i'm wondering how on earth this conversation strayed so far from the original topic.


Yeah, I've just kinda sat back and let it all play out. It took a bizarre turn, for sure!

And I just want to say thank you to everyone who's visited me, given their opinions and advice, and/or sent me PMs about what I could improve! You're all marvelous, and have helped me immeasurably. If anyone happens to drop by in the future and see anything glaring that is preventing members from staying or having the best time possible, feel free to post here or send me a message.
 
KudosKids said:
Well its not a theory, its a fact from what I've seen, I mean yeah girls either love it or there ashamed of doing it. But I think a lot of them would try it. . I'm not that old lol, you make me sound like some creepy dad chillin with the college crowd. And I don't have a poor perspective on women, I just have a poor perspective on our young generation. As time goes on, it seems like its easier and easier to get money in "Immoral" ways. People will settle for less versus working hard for more because of the fact its not hard work. School is way to expensive to waste money on. Also on the other hand they have so many decisions its hard to make just one. And the economy got so bad at one point college graduates weren't even getting jobs. So why try right? It really wasn't that long ago when I graduated high school. But I was the oddball out because I didn't go to college or the military right away. Nowadays, thats completely normal among that age group. I understand why. I'm just hoping that in the end of this all, they will be the change we wish to see. But after all that, I'm just saying I'm surprised a cam girl would personally look down on her own job. I can see your point that people in general probably go to camming because of money troubles. But at least after there first week or two they end up loving the job. Maybe not because they have to get naked. But you get to be your own boss and in my opinion whether your making 15grand or 80 grand a year. Your rich in my eyes just because you are your own boss. No matter how you do it. Its total freedom. And thats what MERICA is about. (as long as the government makes money off you also lol)

3/4 of camgirls quit within 3 months, that is a fact. I am sure some quit because the money isn't as easy as they thought. I also know plenty that quit even though, they had 4-5K camscore, good regulars and they enjoy part of the job. I know in some case there were concerned about the future implications of being a doctor and such. But I think most quit because getting naked and masturbating for strangers is transforming what is a very intimate activity into a very public one. That has to be hard for most girls on some level, and I bet it is big reason that such a tiny percentage of 18-24 year woman cam. Even though they know it is good money and there are lots of other benefits.

Your rich in my eyes just because you are your own boss I agree 100% and I think many camgirls don't appreciate this enough. In almost studies of job satisfaction autonomy is huge factor in high job satisfaction. More than almost any other job you are truly your own boss in camming.

I saw this rant on twitter/tumblr and there is also thread on it
http://zoetumbls.tumblr.com/post/98410318580/cam-girl-rantings-september-edition In it she explains why its important to take time off. I don't disagree with the bulk of it. But this sentence pissed me of royally. "This should go without saying but remember, sitting in a cubicle at a desk for 8 hours picking your butt is a lot less emotionally and mentally draining than it is to actively entertain 100+ people on the daily, even if that part of your job is only 3 or 4 hours. "

I am guessing that her exposure to cubicle jobs is mostly on TV. I had friend who's bad day at the office started off with this sentence.
"today over San Fransisco a small plane collided with United Flight 435 killing all on board". You really think it is more emotionally and mental draining camming than air traffic control? I could list scores of other examples, like most entertainment jobs which also require you to be in the spotlight for hours at time..

There is a huge amount of stress that don't have to put up with simply because they don't work for somebody else. You need to take your kid to the doctor three times in month, you aren't going to get fired. They thought of packing and moving next week too overwhelming? Take a few days of from camming and do it. You having a bad day on cam, just turn it off. Hell even strippers who generally set their own hours, get in trouble if they stop in mid shift. Many camgirls actually having figured out a way of making money, when they don't work because of personal issues, with the offline tip love. The point being that camming has lot going for it as job/career but the essential activity being a sex worker is tough for most woman don't want to do it.
 
Blanket statements like that are usually never a good idea. It really depends on the job. From my experience camming is a lot more emotionally draining than any other job I've had. Reason being members expect a lot from you. You're not just selling your time you're selling your personality. Members want to know about your personal life, they want you to be perfect (whatever version of perfect they like). Switching it off is very difficult because members want parts of you that are personal. It's a large part of the appeal. You get used to talking about parts of your life with total strangers that to anyone else would be completely private. It's not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but it can be a head fuck. It can be very difficult to switch off and leave it. Add that to almost being completely isolated save from places like ACF and it can be extremely draining.

It's a different type of emotionally draining though than other jobs. I've had work where you're listening to and dealing with people's problems which is draining in a totally different way. It's hard to compare the two. The difference for me usually is that it's easier to leave things at the office when you as the worker are not involved. With camming you are very much involved so it can feel like it follows you.

For the record I also do not "look down" on camming. I think camming is great. I also think it is not for everyone and I know that most women though they might be curious about it would not ever go through with trying it (some women outright would never go near it). I am a camgirl. I have clearly made the choice to cam and I am happy with my decision and am proud of what I do. But I happen to be the kind of person who was naturally interested in this sort of thing. I think most young women would be horrified that you think that throwing some cash in their faces would make them do just about anything. It's like I have no issue with women who are prostitutes but if some guy went around saying that I'd fuck him if he offered enough cash I'd punch him. It's extremely presumptuous. To me what you're saying isn't much different to that.

But... the thread is derailed and Charrman is right, it's pointless even discussing with someone who is unwilling to accept anything except what they think they know- Even when women in the category he's talking about disagree with him.
 
HiGirlsRHot said:
But this sentence pissed me of royally. "This should go without saying but remember, sitting in a cubicle at a desk for 8 hours picking your butt is a lot less emotionally and mentally draining than it is to actively entertain 100+ people on the daily, even if that part of your job is only 3 or 4 hours. "

I think she's just referring to the distinction people make when it comes to occupational burnout. It's pretty well-known that sex workers are prone to emotional burnout, comparable to what's seen among social workers, therapists, teachers, nurses/physicians, and anyone who deals with the judicial system - essentially, fields that deal with human services. Most jobs don't expose you to emotional stress, or force you tread a line between professional distance and emotional investment, but these do.
 
One thing that might not be a factor in your situation but I feel that models at mfc should focus more on themselves being the reason why members are in their room and less on catering to people of a specific fetish. You want people coming to see you and not just coming to see a certain type of show. Catering to certain fetishes can be a great way to get new people in your room but do it all the time and you kinda pigeonhole yourself.
 
PunkInDrublic said:
One thing that might not be a factor in your situation but I feel that models at mfc should focus more on themselves being the reason why members are in their room and less on catering to people of a specific fetish. You want people coming to see you and not just coming to see a certain type of show. Catering to certain fetishes can be a great way to get new people in your room but do it all the time and you kinda pigeonhole yourself.

I'm not sure if you're addressing me with this comment or someone else, and if you are, I have no idea how it pertains to me. I'm pretty sure one look at my room or profile will make it very clear that is *is* about me (and my peeps hanging out and having fun), and I don't do ANY type of regular fetish work... unless you count spanks and Hitachi control shows? :?
 
My bad, was mostly just trying to get the thread somewhat back on topic. I remembered that you did library shows and saw you mentioned doing a balcony show, thought it couldn't hurt to throw it out there. Disregard if not relevant to your situation.
 
PunkInDrublic said:
My bad, was mostly just trying to get the thread somewhat back on topic. I remembered that you did library shows and saw you mentioned doing a balcony show, thought it couldn't hurt to throw it out there. Disregard if not relevant to your situation.

Ah, gotcha! Yeah, I do enjoy public shows occasionally, though even that is not so much catering to a fetish as it is catering to my need for new places/experiences/excitement. But you'll be happy to know I haven't done a library show in 3 or 4 months. :lol: ;)

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion! :thumbleft:
 
Today, I had 60-70 people maximum in my room while I was doing a BA cumshow. This has never happened before. I used to be able to rely on 100-200 during a show like that.

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It was at 11.20 pm PDT.
I had a Camscore around 3400.
Somebody please tell me WTF is wrong with my room or me.
 
Holy F$@!(! I am so sorry for the things I said! I was very intoxicated.....And I am completely embarrassed for the things I said. I'm normally a nice guy. I hope all of you forgive me.

And as for lily, maybe it was because it was the last day of the month. And just about every model was on competing plus 2 new models that a lot of members seem to be very curious about. They took in a lot of attention with each room having over 1000 people just those 2 alone. So that could be why your room fell short of people. Tonight should be better!
 
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LilyMarie said:
Today, I had 60-70 people maximum in my room while I was doing a BA cumshow. This has never happened before. I used to be able to rely on 100-200 during a show like that.

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It was at 11.20 pm PDT.
I had a Camscore around 3400.
Somebody please tell me WTF is wrong with my room or me.
I remember this show. Your room did race through naked to show quite quickly (in fact you never got to be naked), we didn't give anyone time to find you.
The type of show was not one that seeing a preview would indicate that much was happening either, so it turned into one for the members already in your room.
Don't feel bad, the show was fun.

A reminder in this thread of Isabella_del's comments/ advice.
Isabella_deL said:
I am someone who generally has the opposite problem. My room counts aren't crazy high, but with a camscore of about 3600 I tend to have between 100 and 200 members in my room at all times before I'm naked. Out of those members very few tip and very few chat.

I will say that if I came on cam and did not stand up and dance immediately I would not get those room numbers. They would always remain below 100. Every time as soon as I get on I will spend some time standing up and dancing, even if just 5 minutes, but it gets the room numbers up every time. What I tend to do is dance for a bit, sit down for a bit, dance again etc. It depends on the vibe of the room. Sometimes I get a great chatty room who are tipping and I'm better off sitting and talking than dancing as dancing sometimes kills the chat, sometimes dancing wakes everyone up and starts the tipping.

Remind everyone to add you to their friendslist. Even now I haven't cammed in a while but people still come into my room immediately because they have me on their friendslist. With cumshows, having "CUMSHOW" in your topic helps a lot. Warming people up before the show helps bring the numbers in. The show has to be intense, when I actually do shows they are apparently very good, I'm very vocal and get very visibly wound up. I'm not particularly into watching girls do cumshows but I think a lot of it is being able to see the girl get visibly out of control. At the end of the day on a site like MFC you can see a girl playing with herself at any time, it's got to be exciting. Many of my regulars over the years didn't actually care much about cumshows, but many of them found me first when they happened.

If you've got regulars and are making ok money though then personally I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's better to have a small crowd who are tipping and talking than a massive crowd who freeload and cap your shows.
 
This is something I just thought of in regards to different camming styles. Some camming styles are much easier to continue over longer periods of time but they also don't attract as big crowds and often not the same earning potential per hour. If you cam in a certain way you might get higher room numbers and more tokens but you'll burn out quicker, in turn that'll make you less inclined to come on cam which means lower earnings altogether.
I love fast paced rooms which means I either burn out quickly or I get bored quickly. It's either all or nothing. This is one of my main mistakes with camming. It means I earn less all round. If you can continue with the room you have for decent periods of time and are happy to get back on camera then that's the most important thing.
 
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