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Strangely HOT!! :-DTeaganO'Holloran said:Here's mine... I look very strange...
JoleneBrody said:Ahahahaha mine would be like night and day! I'll have to take a pic when I strip my makeup off tonight.
My mom was a make-up artist.HiGirlsRHot said:LuckySmiles said:AnaVictoriaXO said:While it does take a brave woman to do this, Rogue is still right. He wasnt downplaying the guts it takes, he was simply stating that were more critical on ourselves than others...which I agree with. I dont see how that in anyway says that the ladies participating arent being brave
I don't want to go too far off, and I agree people can criticize themselves more then others sometimes. But I think other people certainly do criticize just as much, whether or not they admit it, or are aware of it when it comes to this. I think many women can relate to getting a highly different reaction from others in a public setting based on being made up vs. not. I know I can.
I just don't think someone who wears makeup is necessarily doing it because they're over analyzing, or being too critical of their own flaws.
As much as we can say it doesn't matter, most people's appearances are greatly improved with makeup and being aware of this doesn't necessarily make you any more critical of yourself than everyone else is. I consider it more to be realistic is all.
First, I think everybody in this thread looks good with or without makeup. In some cases I am surprised how little difference makeup makes, but it definitely helps. I also have to say you girls are skilled at makeup. Which I have to say I didn't know was actually a skill, that not all girls possessed, until my last serious girlfriend.
She was jock; marathon, triathlons, etc. and looked younger because she was thin, toned and tanned. So even though I like makeup on girls it never really bothered me that she never wore any. A few times when we went to fancy events she'd put makeup and it looked awful. Of course since my grooming habits are pretty bad I certainly couldn't complain. Finally around the third she did this and she was cursing why her makeup looked awful we had a discussion. First, I tried to help her put on makeup which only made it worse, but was good for some great laughs. But what really puzzled me was her best friend was a flight attendant and put on make up to go to the grocery story or the gym and always looked fabulous. From what I knew her mom wore make up and at least a couple of her childhood girlfriend did also. Anyway she said that never learned to put on make as teenager, which really surprised me, cause I though sharing makeup tips was rite-of -passage for teenage girls.
So I am curious, how did you girls learn about make up, did camming make you more conscious of makeup. Finally do you view makeup as one of those necessary evil things you have to do, or does it make you feel better because after your face is on you feel better about yourselves. (I hope that make sense.)
HiGirlsRHot said:So I am curious, how did you girls learn about make up, did camming make you more conscious of makeup. Finally do you view makeup as one of those necessary evil things you have to do, or does it make you feel better because after your face is on you feel better about yourselves. (I hope that make sense.)
PlayboyMegan said:My mom was a make-up artist.HiGirlsRHot said:LuckySmiles said:AnaVictoriaXO said:While it does take a brave woman to do this, Rogue is still right. He wasnt downplaying the guts it takes, he was simply stating that were more critical on ourselves than others...which I agree with. I dont see how that in anyway says that the ladies participating arent being brave
I don't want to go too far off, and I agree people can criticize themselves more then others sometimes. But I think other people certainly do criticize just as much, whether or not they admit it, or are aware of it when it comes to this. I think many women can relate to getting a highly different reaction from others in a public setting based on being made up vs. not. I know I can.
I just don't think someone who wears makeup is necessarily doing it because they're over analyzing, or being too critical of their own flaws.
As much as we can say it doesn't matter, most people's appearances are greatly improved with makeup and being aware of this doesn't necessarily make you any more critical of yourself than everyone else is. I consider it more to be realistic is all.
First, I think everybody in this thread looks good with or without makeup. In some cases I am surprised how little difference makeup makes, but it definitely helps. I also have to say you girls are skilled at makeup. Which I have to say I didn't know was actually a skill, that not all girls possessed, until my last serious girlfriend.
She was jock; marathon, triathlons, etc. and looked younger because she was thin, toned and tanned. So even though I like makeup on girls it never really bothered me that she never wore any. A few times when we went to fancy events she'd put makeup and it looked awful. Of course since my grooming habits are pretty bad I certainly couldn't complain. Finally around the third she did this and she was cursing why her makeup looked awful we had a discussion. First, I tried to help her put on makeup which only made it worse, but was good for some great laughs. But what really puzzled me was her best friend was a flight attendant and put on make up to go to the grocery story or the gym and always looked fabulous. From what I knew her mom wore make up and at least a couple of her childhood girlfriend did also. Anyway she said that never learned to put on make as teenager, which really surprised me, cause I though sharing makeup tips was rite-of -passage for teenage girls.
So I am curious, how did you girls learn about make up, did camming make you more conscious of makeup. Finally do you view makeup as one of those necessary evil things you have to do, or does it make you feel better because after your face is on you feel better about yourselves. (I hope that make sense.)
I feel better with make-up because I get hit on more. But I feel great without it, too.
AnaVictoriaXO said:LuckySmiles said:AnaVictoriaXO said:While it does take a brave woman to do this, Rogue is still right. He wasnt downplaying the guts it takes, he was simply stating that were more critical on ourselves than others...which I agree with. I dont see how that in anyway says that the ladies participating arent being brave
I don't want to go too far off, and I agree people can criticize themselves more then others sometimes. But I think other people certainly do criticize just as much, whether or not they admit it, or are aware of it when it comes to this. I think many women can relate to getting a highly different reaction from others in a public setting based on being made up vs. not. I know I can.
I just don't think someone who wears makeup is necessarily doing it because they're over analyzing, or being too critical of their own flaws.
As much as we can say it doesn't matter, most people's appearances are greatly improved with makeup and being aware of this doesn't necessarily make you any more critical of yourself than everyone else is. I consider it more to be realistic is all.
Completely agreed But yeah, I just dont think thats what was being insinuated is all, I could be wrong though!
Jessi said:Ew you caught me.
I'm secretly not hot. :crybaby: :lol: :lol:
Jessi said:Ew you caught me.
I'm secretly not hot. :crybaby: :lol: :lol:
Jessi said:Ew you caught me.
I'm secretly not hot. :crybaby: :lol: :lol:
The idea that "good women" do not wear make-up is disguised sexism. It took me a while to realize it myself, but I truly think that the purity/modesty versus vanity idea is complete bullshit. It's the same trap women are placed in constantly in modern life: be successful, but not too successful because then you are aggressive and not ladylike. Dress sexy to be valued, but not too sexy because then you are a whore. Sleep with some people or you're frigid, but not too many or you are a slut.
We live in a society that values women for their looks above all else. The first thing you ask about a new girlfriend? "Is she cute/hot/pretty?" Only then do the follow up questions occur: is she nice, friendly, smart, etc? The "women are most beautiful without make up" idea makes new want to throw things. There are studies that show women who dress well and wear make up get promoted faster, are more well liked, and are perceived as more competent and in control than their counterparts who do not.
Is saying this kind of thing really about your personal preference? Really, when you say a woman is more beautiful without make up, you are making a judgement call about her values. Selfish women wear make up; cute nice honest women do not. Make-up women are liars, gold diggers, social climbers; make-up-less women are without guile are open and sincere.
Additionally, there is a sinister component to all this. What about 60 year old women? What about people with horrible acne? Do they look better without make up? What about without hair care products? No. They don't. People wonder why women spend money on plastic surgery. Well, apparently they can't use fucking make up to fix problems with their skin. Then everyone would know how vain and shallow they are. This thinking takes away the ability for people with features they would rather not broadcast to defend themselves in a society that snap judges women based nearly entirely on appearance. Big fucking scar? Though shit, you're just ugly, and therefore almost completely unvalued. Oh well.
Oh, and, all the beautiful doe eyed beauties you see not wearing make up? Yeah, they're wearing make up. It's not caked on, and it's subtle. You don't know this fact because you don't wear it. Tinted moisturizer? Cover up in acne meds? Hair spray? Make up.People have used dirt, feathers, paint, dyes, etc., to make themselves beautiful for as long as society has existed.
You think I'm more beautiful without make up? You know what? I'm lucky. It's genetics. Fuck you for being so presumptuous to only like naturally beautiful women. I doubt you are so selfless to love ugly women wearing no make up. And while you're at it, if you really feel so strongly against make up, maybe you should try to work for a fucking society that judges women on something other than appearance above all other things.
Edit: The fuck yous are not directed at you personally. It's just the general attitude and presumption that gets me. I'm left thinking, "Wow. Thanks for making a value judgement on my life while I'm at the drugstore, people."
Edit 2: after getting lots of strange replies, I wanted to clarify that I never mentioned men in my post. I never even mentioned men hitting on you with this line. I addressed a general attitude held by both men and women, that often doesn't involve specific people. Do I personally prefer my mother without make up that makes her look like a member of KISS? Of course I do. This is a specific example, involving someone close to me. If it involves someone close to you, of course you will have an opinion! That's not sexist or rude. It's the blanket attitude that bothers me. The judging sight-unseen that women without make up are intrinsically superior to women with make up.
That bothers me because of the implication. Even some of the responses I've received express this view:
-I feel like I'm being lied to. (When a woman wears make up)
-I get the feeling this was written by someone who can use all the make up she can get.
Comments like this, to me, prove my point.
Neudiin said:ROFL @ Poker_Babe's pics. The hands over face is great but then I noticed the machete on a magnetic knife holder?!?!?!??? You need one that handy like chefs need their knives? lmao
I am enjoying this thread. Specially the men's make-up advice, very cool. :-D
Chellelovesu said:Jessi said:Ew you caught me.
I'm secretly not hot. :crybaby: :lol: :lol:
OHMIGOSH
the "without" side.
Marry me...
PlayboyMegan said:My mom was a make-up artist.
I feel better with make-up because I get hit on more. But I feel great without it, too.
RogueWarrior said:Eh, I'm too tired to fully rebut, but don't extrapolate extraneously.