Lying about relationship status

[PunkInDrublic]

So start suing everybody and report back with how much you make/how many cases you win.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Couldn't it legally be considered fraud if a cam model was telling people that she was single when in fact she wasn't so they would tip her more. I know that just saying your single when your not on dating sites is enough for you to be sued and there no money is involved.

LOL do you even live on planet Earth?

In 2005 a New York Dr, was sued for lying on a dating site.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/do ... 476695.htm

A cam model that lies about her relationship status would be committing false advertising

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictiona ... dvertising

She's not advertising anything though. Being single doesn't mean "tip me and I'll definitely, definitely fuck you. I'm single so I have no reason not to, and if I don't, you can sue me".

 

[NoelleBright]

Couldn't it legally be considered fraud if a cam model was telling people that she was single when in fact she wasn't so they would tip her more. I know that just saying your single when your not on dating sites is enough for you to be sued and there no money is involved.

LOL do you even live on planet Earth?

In 2005 a New York Dr, was sued for lying on a dating site.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/do ... 476695.htm

A cam model that lies about her relationship status would be committing false advertising

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictiona ... dvertising

LMAO omg this is all so laughable.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I can't take it.

By your logic, I could also be sued because I used to dye my hair red and label myself a ginger when I started camming.
YOU GUYS, OMGZZZZZ, SOMEONE GET ME A LAWYER QUICK, I'M IN BIG BIG TROUBLE.

Seriously though.
Some ladies dye their hair and lie about it, some get implants and lie about it, wear colored contacts and lie about it, get liposuction and lie about it, draw on their eyebrows and lie about it. If you think we're at risk of being sued for false advertising, you are off your goddamn rocker.

Also, I would like to see where that case actually went through, because I can't find ANYTHING about him actually having to pay anyone any amount of money at all.

 

[MemberEd]

Couldn't it legally be considered fraud if a cam model was telling people that she was single when in fact she wasn't so they would tip her more.

I believe legally it is none of the members business if a model is in a relationship or not.

 

[sv89]

If you tell people something false to get them to spend more it is false advertising, and it still applies to cam industry.

 

[NoelleBright]

If you tell people something false to get them to spend more it is false advertising, and it still applies to cam industry.

My pussy is soooo wet for youuuu bb, I'm soooo horny.

Bam. I'm sued. You ladies are next. We're all going down.
:lol:

 

[Finebrush]

Wait... These are not dating sites at all. It is very different a place where you interact with a model, the model makes a show, or in some cases, mostly speaks, performs some role game, or make group activities or games. It's a kind of show, a performance. That is all. I don't see the dating part in any aspect of it. There can be relations in the terms of an online friendship. I have contacted some friends that I met originally online, but I think any member of these sites do know pretty well how dangerous can it be for a model to get in contact with members in real life. Even if there's only a chance of a 2% of getting the dangerous guy. And even if it weren't so (which it is), it makes no sense, not this, neither the being single matter. It is a performance, a show, and fun, light interaction. And virtual, not real, in any case. To me the model being single could make it if anything more interesting, in general, it actually should mean nothing to a member, because the whole matter is very distant and separated from you, the visitor.

So, I don't see the fraud in any way... There could probably be issues in an actual dating site, if you sign a kind of contract where you are assuring you are actually single, when you are not. But it can have some sense there, as the purpose is to find a match for you, and you are somehow making other person loose his/her time, if you have zero interests in finding a loved one or simply a person to have some sort of relationship. But I totally fail to see any relation with cam sites. So, no fraud.

 

[MemberEd]

If you tell people something false to get them to spend more it is false advertising, and it still applies to cam industry.

No, that is not true. It is a given that models conceal their true identities, locations, age and relationship status. It is not fraud to present a fantasy. It is art, it is acting, it is entertainment. It is not fraud.

 

[Finebrush]

If you tell people something false to get them to spend more it is false advertising, and it still applies to cam industry.

Oh, I understand what you mean... But... First, unless it is written... And... A judge would by all means consider all this as part of a role play, a game, a sort of thing part of the show. The line would be impossible to draw, that one dividing what is and what is not reality, in a show, is like a theater. And is kind of advertised so, IMO, no issue, but in absolutely any way.

Be it in cams, or in the street, if one, model or not, claims he is terribly sick, and needs xxxxxx,xx $ of cash to be able to afford an expensive treatment, being a total lie, and gets that money for that cause, well, yep, this person can get a lot of trouble. But otherwise... nope, by far not. And specially zero risk, in cams sites, saying one is single, is not, or her real name is the Dark Princess. It will be considered part of a game. The judge may even consider that the model was just building a climax, a mood. Performing, playing a role. That's all. Of course, friendship can end up sort of real friendship, with the many strong limits that do exist on line. They are working, actually, although I suspect many do kind of like what they do. (Not every day, I suspect, even in the better cases)

Aaanyway... I so much doubt anyone, with the typical profile of person that goes to cam sites, would love to see it made largely public where and how he or she satisfies certain erotic fantasies... Or just looks for some chat with nice women... Nah, don't see it happening (and failing later very sadly, in court, if anything...)

 

[sv89]

MFC itself tries to get people to believe that they can get into a real relationship with models and could even marry a model.

Members and models are free to exchange e-mail addresses or other contact information. Many of our users and models have formed great relationships, friendships, and marriages, so we would never want to get in the way of that with rules or restrictions.

So they are trying to get people to believe its somewhat of a dating site,so wouldn't that go in favor of a member suing a model for fraud?

 

[NoelleBright]

MFC itself tries to get people to believe that they can get into a real relationship with models and could even marry a model.

Members and models are free to exchange e-mail addresses or other contact information. Many of our users and models have formed great relationships, friendships, and marriages, so we would never want to get in the way of that with rules or restrictions.

So they are trying to get people to believe its somewhat of a dating site,so wouldn't that go in favor of a member suing a model for fraud?

They're not though, I'm not exactly sure how you deduced that they're trying to make people believe it's a dating site.
Saying it HAS happened is not the equivalent of saying that's the intent of the site.

I'm also not sure how they would even sue us considering MFC can't even legally give them our real names/locations/etc.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

lol 2/10 on the trolling vlad

 

[sv89]

MFC itself tries to get people to believe that they can get into a real relationship with models and could even marry a model.

Members and models are free to exchange e-mail addresses or other contact information. Many of our users and models have formed great relationships, friendships, and marriages, so we would never want to get in the way of that with rules or restrictions.

So they are trying to get people to believe its somewhat of a dating site,so wouldn't that go in favor of a member suing a model for fraud?

They're not though, I'm not exactly sure how you deduced that they're trying to make people believe it's a dating site.
Saying it HAS happened is not the equivalent of saying that's the intent of the site.

I'm also not sure how they would even sue us considering MFC can't even legally give them our real names/locations/etc.

I said somewhat of a dating said is what they are trying to promote with that part in their rules and guidelines section, I didn't mean a full fledged dating site. And they could give your name out if they were given a subpoena to.

Not sugarcoating doesn't mean a troll.

 

[LilyEvans]

MFC itself tries to get people to believe that they can get into a real relationship with models and could even marry a model.

Members and models are free to exchange e-mail addresses or other contact information. Many of our users and models have formed great relationships, friendships, and marriages, so we would never want to get in the way of that with rules or restrictions.

So they are trying to get people to believe its somewhat of a dating site,so wouldn't that go in favor of a member suing a model for fraud?

They're not though, I'm not exactly sure how you deduced that they're trying to make people believe it's a dating site.
Saying it HAS happened is not the equivalent of saying that's the intent of the site.

I'm also not sure how they would even sue us considering MFC can't even legally give them our real names/locations/etc.

I said somewhat of a dating said is what they are trying to promote with that part in their rules and guidelines section, I didn't mean a full fledged dating site. And they could give your name out if they were given a subpoena to.

Not sugarcoating doesn't mean a troll.

Ah, I can see it now...

Butthurt lurker sues MFC for false advertising > MFC produces couple who have met on their site who are now dating or married to verify claims made on their wiki > Butthurt lurker is now thousands of dollars poorer (if any lawyer would even touch his "case") and is now also that delusional weirdo who tried to sue a porn site for not giving him a girlfriend.

 

[KristinaReapsMe]

:lol:

Somebody get this guy a soapbox. We are clearly mindless sheep and we need to listen to his undying wisdom! Tell me more, senpai! n.n

 

[JerryBoBerry]

If you tell people something false to get them to spend more it is false advertising, and it still applies to cam industry.

No, it doesn't. Your law degree is hereby revoked. Put it back in the Cracker Jack's box where you found it.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

lol 2/10 on the trolling vlad

OH MY GOD. I knew there was something to his cadence and style of writing I was recognizing. I honestly think you are right!

 

[JerryBoBerry]

If you tell people something false to get them to spend more it is false advertising, and it still applies to cam industry.

Oh, I understand what you mean... But... First, unless it is written... And... A judge would by all means consider all this as part of a role play, a game, a sort of thing part of the show. The line would be impossible to draw, that one dividing what is and what is not reality, in a show, is like a theater. And is kind of advertised so, IMO, no issue, but in absolutely any way.

What you are getting at is the legal term 'Puffery.' It's the same reasoning that allows car dealerships to advertise their cars as --
The best ever!
A sweet ride.
Greatest family car since the invention of the wheel.
Engine that can tackle the toughest mountain terrain.

And stuff like that. Those terms if taken literally would be fraud. However it is common sense, to anyone that has any, those are simply 'puffed' up statements to sell an item. They do not stand up in court (and no court will admit them into evidence) since it is so blatantly not the truth, but mere exaggeration. No one on earth has a reasonable expectation of believing them for fact.

Same thing applies to the fantasy a camgirl can and may present. Since she's on a site which does have a purpose of delivering a fantasy setting, simple lies like that (puffery) are part of the atmosphere and no one of reasonable intelligence is expected to believe in them or accept them as legal doctrine.

 

[Finebrush]

MFC itself tries to get people to believe that they can get into a real relationship with models and could even marry a model.

Members and models are free to exchange e-mail addresses or other contact information. Many of our users and models have formed great relationships, friendships, and marriages, so we would never want to get in the way of that with rules or restrictions.

So they are trying to get people to believe its somewhat of a dating site,so wouldn't that go in favor of a member suing a model for fraud?

To be sincere, I'm more of an occasional member. But even so, I yet to find a single model who showed even a very slight shade of an interest on dating me or someone else in the room. I'd say they are all indeed fearing someone propose anything of this kind, as it actually happens often. It's their job, their work. The situation clearly hasn't got the needed elements to be able to establish a relationship. Nor even the intent to do so (for instance, make a real appointment). Besides, is widely known, by everybody, the often justified fears of dating a total unknown. So the thing should be, by default, out of question, by anyone. It's too obvious... Of course this does not leave out on line friendship, good vibes, etc.

 

[Finebrush]

If you tell people something false to get them to spend more it is false advertising, and it still applies to cam industry.

Oh, I understand what you mean... But... First, unless it is written... And... A judge would by all means consider all this as part of a role play, a game, a sort of thing part of the show. The line would be impossible to draw, that one dividing what is and what is not reality, in a show, is like a theater. And is kind of advertised so, IMO, no issue, but in absolutely any way.

What you are getting at is the legal term 'Puffery.' It's the same reasoning that allows car dealerships to advertise their cars as --
The best ever!
A sweet ride.
Greatest family car since the invention of the wheel.
Engine that can tackle the toughest mountain terrain.

And stuff like that. Those terms if taken literally would be fraud. However it is common sense, to anyone that has any, those are simply 'puffed' up statements to sell an item. They do not stand up in court (and no court will admit them into evidence) since it is so blatantly not the truth, but mere exaggeration. No one on earth has a reasonable expectation of believing them for fact.

Same thing applies to the fantasy a camgirl can and may present. Since she's on a site which does have a purpose of delivering a fantasy setting, simple lies like that (puffery) are part of the atmosphere and no one of reasonable intelligence is expected to believe in them or accept them as legal doctrine.

Exactly. But actually... The whole matter is a little embarrassing, lol.. I mean, it's their private life. Gosh, even writing such obvious things feels both funny and pathetic (unless the whole thing might be a joke?). I keep failing to see the connection with "the product", which I understand here it is the show, the room game, the role play, etc. If I see Godzilla, the movie, and later I realize there's no such beast in any place of the world, I wont sue the director. Or not with any crazy hope of winning the case. It was assumed it was fictional. If someone gets to cam sites with the same intention than one would go to a dating site, that would be that person's error. (but no other one's fault, and never ever the model's fault, lol...)

This all reminds me of one time I was in a job interview, the guy wanted me to take care of the design part of a magazine. (well, nothing big, actually, quite a small one) He started to ask me about my girlfriend, then why didn't I have one, and more not cool questions ... And even rudely. Even risking not getting the job, I politely said I did not see the connection with the task to be done. IMO is ok to say always so. If there's interest on the task or product, there will be even after letting things pretty clear.

 

[sv89]

MFC says nothing about it being a fantasy, the site is called an adult webcam community not an adult entertainment site.

 

[schlmoe]

if any lawyer would even touch his "case"

Now you've done it! When this dude takes a case, he fights till the bitter end :mrgreen:

 

[SavannahMai]

Im glad i found this thread, as i am getting married in June and i dont really want to take my wedding ring off for cam!

 

[AmberCutie]

lol 2/10 on the trolling vlad

OH MY GOD. I knew there was something to his cadence and style of writing I was recognizing. I honestly think you are right!

Sorry to spoil the fun, definitely not Vlad.

 

[sv89]

I wasn't trying to troll just state that its possible a person could sue(they don't even need a lawyer they can do it themselves) a model since it would fall under false advertising if it was done to increase tips. The fact that MFC doesn't call it an Entertainment site and that they mention that you could end up dating or even marrying a model you met on mfc, makes it seem more real than a fantasy site. Its best to understand their is a risk of being sued than to think that your exempt from it since its a cam site.

I don't get why so many people jump to the "MFC is not a dating site", Ofcourse its not a dating site neither is facebook,myspace,linkedin etc. But sometimes people that meet on those sites end up dating, even though the sites were not set up for the purpose of dating. If you personally don't want to date a member or if your a member and do not want to try to date a model its your own choice, but it doesn't mean you should be influencing other models and members to have the same opinion.

 

[schlmoe]

'Puffery'

I can't wait to visit my favorite model. I shore likes me some good ol' puffery :mrgreen:

 

[mynameisbob84]

I wasn't trying to troll just state that its possible a person could sue(they don't even need a lawyer they can do it themselves) a model since it would fall under false advertising if it was done to increase tips. The fact that MFC doesn't call it an Entertainment site and that they mention that you could end up dating or even marrying a model you met on mfc, makes it seem more real than a fantasy site. Its best to understand their is a risk of being sued than to think that your exempt from it since its a cam site.

I don't get why so many people jump to the "MFC is not a dating site", Ofcourse its not a dating site neither is facebook,myspace,linkedin etc. But sometimes people that meet on those sites end up dating, even though the sites were not set up for the purpose of dating. If you personally don't want to date a member or if your a member and do not want to try to date a model its your own choice, but it doesn't mean you should be influencing other models and members to have the same opinion.

If you go onto a cam site with the attitude of "I'm gonna meet a cam girl and she's gonna fall in love with me and let me touch her boobies 'cos there's a 0.23% chance of this happening, therefore I have to assume that it will happen to me" you're gonna have a shitty time, leave yourself open to emotional manipulation, and piss off just about every model you talk to. It's just not a good idea.

 

[Finebrush]

^^ This.

Besides, the mention that they will not forbid exchange of email addresses in mfc, because they have seen friendships and marriages happening there is very far from advertising to you that you will get that, or that they do any effort at all so that things go in that direction. Is more of a side comment.

In court this wont have any weight, IMO. Because is a very light note, very indirect.And buried in a specific page of a help wiki, not a selling slogan, if I am not wrong. Also, it's more than assumed that is pretty well known, obvious and logical that a marriage would need more than the virtual interaction. Well, like any kind of real human relation ship to happen. This is a well known matter.(thinking otherwise, in whatever the Internet thing it is, would be quite naive )

And I insist, suing for this might make the person look quite badly under several lights. Plus reveal certain activity which they practice, to the entire world, friends, work environment, wife, kids, etc, might be quite a hassle later on. We're not yet in that modern society we would like to be at. (not as global thing)

There are ways to sue a site much easier than this (even while it'd be deviating certain anger/frustration in the wrong direction). Or with at least some realistic possibilities of getting something out of it other than wasting money and maybe ending in an embarrassing situation. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Sevrin]

If you personally don't want to date a member or if your a member and do not want to try to date a model its your own choice, but it doesn't mean you should be influencing other models and members to have the same opinion.

Listen, if people are going to hook up, they're just going to. Sometimes it just "happens". HOWEVER, it's a lot less likely to happen between a random member and a random model on MFC, simply because of how things start out, i.e., with the member trying to check out a model's snatch, and the model offering views to members of said body part in exchange for nothing more romantic than money.

MFC is a site that sells titillation. Sometimes that develops into companionship, and sometimes, more rarely, into friendship and sometimes, even more rarely, into mutually requited romantic feelings. But the only thing *guaranteed* is some degree of titillation.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I wasn't trying to troll just state that its possible a person could sue(they don't even need a lawyer they can do it themselves) a model since it would fall under false advertising if it was done to increase tips. The fact that MFC doesn't call it an Entertainment site and that they mention that you could end up dating or even marrying a model you met on mfc, makes it seem more real than a fantasy site. Its best to understand their is a risk of being sued than to think that your exempt from it since its a cam site.

I don't get why so many people jump to the "MFC is not a dating site", Ofcourse its not a dating site neither is facebook,myspace,linkedin etc. But sometimes people that meet on those sites end up dating, even though the sites were not set up for the purpose of dating. If you personally don't want to date a member or if your a member and do not want to try to date a model its your own choice, but it doesn't mean you should be influencing other models and members to have the same opinion.

Humans beings are often touted as being the most intelligent creatures on earth... yet you exist somehow.
I'm going to sue you.