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Okay, so this is probably just my OCD talking, but for the last 2 years I've maintained a really good hourly from what I see others saying about theirs.

Bad day = $50-70 an hour
Average day = $100-125 an hour
Good day = $150-200+ an hour

Maybe it's my niche market (pale redhead)? Who knows!

The thing is I really don't do that much on cam.. I don't fuck myself. Ever. I don't show my ass. EVer. For some reason, doing those things makes me uncomfortable. If I feel violated doing something for money, I shouldn't be doing it...right?

Basically, I masturbate and suck dildos. That's pretty much the gist of my show. Also, I'm sweet and responsive, all-American and very, very, pretty (if I was in any other business, I wouldn't say that about myself).

Here's the thing. The last week has been pretty hit and miss for me. There was one night where I barely made $40 in an hour. Just super slow. I also did a couple gold shows and got some shitty feedback ("boring," "worst gold show ever").

I'm trying to save money to start a business, and I've managed to sock away nearly $7k the last couple months. I've been busting my ass. But it feels like this last week everyone has gotten sick of me and "figured me out" like that my shows actually kind of suck.

This isn't my dream job but I need at least $15k before I can get out of it. BARE minimum. Is there a limit to how much you can earn at this? Like I'm having a panic attack feeling like I hit my limit and I'm fucked.

Does anyone else ever feel this way? Like your run is just over. Good nights don't even feel good for me anymore because I'm so afraid people are going to stop watching me.

Do I just need to bite the bullet and start fucking myself? It literally brings tears to my eyes to think of having to do that because I really really don't want to. I'm okay with what I've been doing but right now I'm feeling like I suck, and if I don't improve I'll burn through every potential fan and be left with nothing.

Am I alone in this craziness?
 
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I'm confused. I frequently see masturbating described as fucking oneself. How do you do one, but not the other, when they are the same thing?

They're not the same thing xD fucking yourself is putting like a dildo inside of yourself. Occasionally I'll put a finger in, but that's rare. Mostly just rubbing myself.
 
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SM has been slow as shit recently for a lot of people so know it's not just you.

Do what makes you comfortable.
 
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Impressive hourly.... Save like a demon and don't change your lifestyle bc you have cash in hand. You should know by now that NOTHING in this business is constant & nothing you can depend on..... well, except that there will always be lurkers. :bag:
Tipping ebbs and flows for no apparent reason. "My girls", some online almost 9 years, go from incredible tips to almost nothing in a single night.... not even $12 an hr in a few cases. When such a thing depends totally on the guys online, you never know which way the wind will blow.

They have all stuck it out tho and made it work. Doing head trips on yourself IS visible to the room and sometimes even the most minuscule of facial tells of worry will put people off. I have also noticed one thing that doesn't make any logical sense to me. Not suggesting you do it at all, but I see it more than not. A girl will make it to a decent place in popularity, or rank on MFC, and they decide to change. Apparently they negate the draw and reasoning that got them to where they are. The 'ok, just look at me now and pay me cuz I'm pretty' doesn't work for many.
Not saying keeping it fresh isn't necessary, just be very careful and receptive to the room vibe.
Christmas time is also very fickle. Most are cutting back on the "entertainment" budget for the month and then come back in the next month or so. If many of your followers are 'flush' and don'
t need to have a budget, then never mind, they should treat you well for Christmas.
Just my 2 cents from this side of the lens... good luck. :nod:
 
I'm confused. I frequently see masturbating described as fucking oneself. How do you do one, but not the other, when they are the same thing?


I think 'fucking oneself' is referring to penetration, like inserting a dildo (which I don't do on cam anymore), while 'masturbating' could just mean using a vibrator (which I love). :)
 
Impressive hourly.... Save like a demon and don't change your lifestyle bc you have cash in hand. You should know by now that NOTHING in this business is constant & nothing you can depend on..... well, except that there will always be lurkers. :bag:
Tipping ebbs and flows for no apparent reason. "My girls", some online almost 9 years, go from incredible tips to almost nothing in a single night.... not even $12 an hr in a few cases. When such a thing depends totally on the guys online, you never know which way the wind will blow.

They have all stuck it out tho and made it work. Doing head trips on yourself IS visible to the room and sometimes even the most minuscule of facial tells of worry will put people off. I have also noticed one thing that doesn't make any logical sense to me. Not suggesting you do it at all, but I see it more than not. A girl will make it to a decent place in popularity, or rank on MFC, and they decide to change. Apparently they negate the draw and reasoning that got them to where they are. The 'ok, just look at me now and pay me cuz I'm pretty' doesn't work for many.
Not saying keeping it fresh isn't necessary, just be very careful and receptive to the room vibe.
Christmas time is also very fickle. Most are cutting back on the "entertainment" budget for the month and then come back in the next month or so. If many of your followers are 'flush' and don'
t need to have a budget, then never mind, they should treat you well for Christmas.
Just my 2 cents from this side of the lens... good luck. :nod:

This is really, really helpful. I'm definitely "saving like a demon." I live a very Spartan life style. I understand that I can't do this forever (ME, personally, if no one else). That's what's been happening for me, though! With the highs and lows. After posting this, all my regs logged on at once and I made $340 in 72 mins! Was feeling a bit better, but now I just barely made $40 in an hour, tonight. It's a bit gut wrenching not knowing when the tide will turn. But you're right, it definitely shows when I get anxious or feel burned out. I do seem boring/sad, even I can see it in my camera.

Also, I don't think that I do that. I don't think I do the whole "fuck you, pay me," thing. I do pretty much exactly what I've always done, which is less than a lot of girls and leaves me to wonder how long I can carry on that shtick before it becomes old hat. I'm just really worried about saving money and getting through my degree. I just don't feel like there's anything more I can do online that I'll feel comfortable with, and I'm kinda out of new ideas. Oh well. Guess I just have to stick to it and weather the bad days until I'm ready to move on.
 
They're not the same thing xD fucking yourself is putting like a dildo inside of yourself. Occasionally I'll put a finger in, but that's rare. Mostly just rubbing myself.

I think 'fucking oneself' is referring to penetration, like inserting a dildo (which I don't do on cam anymore), while 'masturbating' could just mean using a vibrator (which I love). :)

I kinda feel like it's just splitting hairs, though. Penetrative masturbation is still masturbation, and most people who ask if I masturbate in private, don't give two shits about clit play and wanna see an orifice penetrated.

I have "no masturbating, no toys" in my topic because I stopped offering those when I'd make maybe $1.25 off anyone who asked me to "cum bb", whereas I'd make $15 from the dude who just wants me to strip and dance naked. I used to just have "no masturbation", but people would ask stupid shit like "does anal count?" Uh.... Anal masturbation=still masturbation, and I'm too damn lazy to do anal on cam anyway. And, of course, "will you do a blowjob on a dildo?" Nope, don't feel like dry heaving constantly for the next five minutes, my gag reflex is so strong that I skip normal gagging and fly right to dry heaving, or, even better, puking!
 
Dude, I feel it too. Though, my former hourly was not nearly as impressive as yours, it was worth it! These days, not so much. Been doing a lot of self-examination lately...
 
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It's the holiday season. Children are home. People are on vacation. There a ton of expenses like airplane tickets, gifts, large group meals. People are getting ready for taxes.

Lots of models are doing specials. Putting their content on sell. And doing stuff to up their game.
 
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I kinda feel like it's just splitting hairs, though. Penetrative masturbation is still masturbation, and most people who ask if I masturbate in private, don't give two shits about clit play and wanna see an orifice penetrated.

I have "no masturbating, no toys" in my topic because I stopped offering those when I'd make maybe $1.25 off anyone who asked me to "cum bb", whereas I'd make $15 from the dude who just wants me to strip and dance naked. I used to just have "no masturbation", but people would ask stupid shit like "does anal count?" Uh.... Anal masturbation=still masturbation, and I'm too damn lazy to do anal on cam anyway. And, of course, "will you do a blowjob on a dildo?" Nope, don't feel like dry heaving constantly for the next five minutes, my gag reflex is so strong that I skip normal gagging and fly right to dry heaving, or, even better, puking!

But what I mean when I say I don't penetrate myself/only masturbate is that I masturbate/cum the way I would in my free time. Meaning, using fingers/vibrators.

There's something that feels too intimate about using dildos on cam. I don't like feeling like I'm degrading myself. That's just how it feels for ME.

I don't mind sucking dildos, I find that pretty easy as I have no gag reflex xD

Dude, I feel it too. Though, my former hourly was not nearly as impressive as yours, it was worth it! These days, not so much. Been doing a lot of self-examination lately...

Yeah, I think entertainers in general can get really dark. It's SO fickle. My mind gets all desperate thinking of alternatives if this falls through.
 
But what I mean when I say I don't penetrate myself/only masturbate

Maybe I'm just a moron, but it sounds like you're saying that penetration isn't masturbation, only clitoral stimulation is. They're both masturbation, just different types. That was my point. I'm not saying anyone has to do one or the other or both, just that they're both forms of self-arousal and that can lead to confusion when you use an umbrella term to mean just one thing.

I think I'm just used to hearing people say "I don't do penetration" or "I do clit play only" to indicate being a non-penetrative model, which seems to better explain things, especially to clearly get the point across to dudes on cam who are thinking with their dicks at the moment.

Knowing the types of customers I get, if I were a non-penetration model and told guys "I only masturbate", they'd be asking for a dildo riding show, cause that's a form of masturbation, never mind that it's more visual appeal than actual pleasure. And then they'd get pissed when I didn't offer it. Hell, I've had someone ask for "T&A", then somehow get annoyed because getting naked and showing off my boobs and ass wasn't actually what he wanted - lord only knows what he actually wanted to see!

It could be that I'm just an idiot magnet and get all the dudes who need things very precisely explained to them, and everyone else gets guys who actually understand what they mean, idk. It just seems to me like saying "I only masturbate" could lead to a lot of misunderstanding and guys getting rude over thinking they were lied to when they weren't.
 
Eh, it's semantics. I consider all kinds of sexual self-stimulation to be masturbation, whether it's penetration (vaginal or anal) or rubbing/touching other erogenous zones (clit, penis, nipples). Hell, I sort of masturbate by putting my feet on the strong jets at the public jaccuzi, but shhh....
 
Eh, it's semantics. I consider all kinds of sexual self-stimulation to be masturbation, whether it's penetration (vaginal or anal) or rubbing/touching other erogenous zones (clit, penis, nipples). Hell, I sort of masturbate by putting my feet on the strong jets at the public jaccuzi, but shhh....

It's not semantics when I'm specifically saying I don't penetrate myself. Sure, it's all masturbation but when I'm distinguishing it from fucking it's just shorthand.
 
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It's not semantics when I'm specifically saying I don't penetrate myself. Sure, it's all masturbation but when I'm distinguishing it from fucking it's just shorthand.
I’m pretty sure she was agreeing with you; that’s how I took it anyway.
 
It's the holiday season. Children are home. People are on vacation. There a ton of expenses like airplane tickets, gifts, large group meals. People are getting ready for taxes.

Lots of models are doing specials. Putting their content on sell. And doing stuff to up their game.

There's literally always an excuse like this, though. If you think about things this way, you're discouraging yourself right out of the gate. There's always a reason why it could be slow but that doesn't mean it will be.
Tax time (I never understand this one, since the majority of people actually get a refund), new years, easter, spring break, summer slump, thanksgiving, football, christmas, on and on and on.

It's not always going to be consistent. You may have months on end that are stellar and then weeks at a time where it's unbearably slow. That's just how it goes.
 
I kinda feel like it's just splitting hairs, though. Penetrative masturbation is still masturbation, and most people who ask if I masturbate in private, don't give two shits about clit play and wanna see an orifice penetrated.

I have "no masturbating, no toys" in my topic because I stopped offering those when I'd make maybe $1.25 off anyone who asked me to "cum bb", whereas I'd make $15 from the dude who just wants me to strip and dance naked. I used to just have "no masturbation", but people would ask stupid shit like "does anal count?" Uh.... Anal masturbation=still masturbation, and I'm too damn lazy to do anal on cam anyway. And, of course, "will you do a blowjob on a dildo?" Nope, don't feel like dry heaving constantly for the next five minutes, my gag reflex is so strong that I skip normal gagging and fly right to dry heaving, or, even better, puking!

When I get the “Got a toy?” guys, I make sure to tell them yes, I have a vibrator. Because so many guys expect to see models fucking a dildo. They consider that the norm, I guess, since that’s like the next best thing to seeing you fuck a real cock. I am NOT a person who can do dildo shows back to back. I still feel sore from sex that occurred several hours ago. Lol.

I’ve had way too many guys take me private (where they’re already mid-stroke once I accept it), request dildo play (which is painful for me at first entry), and then bounce within a couple minutes. Ugh. All that lubing myself up and having to clean it off later...for you to bust in a minute? This is why models often don’t like to “just get right to it” during privates (and, instead, choose to tease, strip, and flirt BEFORE whipping out the toy), and like to prolong it. It’s also why some models require you have X tokens minimum for private on MFC.

And on ImLive, some men have the nerve to ask for your discount code, knowing damn well they’re gonna bounce in a few. Lol.

I’m glad I decided to be honest with myself that I don’t care for doing dildo fucking shows, and that I can offer other things instead. IF I feel up for dildo-ing, it damn sure better be an ImLive block session or a Skype show already paid for.

I like the sessions where I get to do foot fetish stuff, or model different pairs of panties, or striptease and booty clap or whatever. I want more of those guys.
 
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