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I normally feel really empowered working in the adult industry, but I just watched the movie on Netflix "Life After Porn" which puts a pretty negative spin on the industry.

Has anyone seen the movie? Your thoughts on it?

I feel kind of down about this industry after watching it (I'm REALLY impressionable, probably should have stayed away haha) and it's unlike me to feel this way.
 
Actually, I watched a lot of porn documentaries before jumping into the adult industry. I learned about the addictions and other vices that happen in this industry. Also my family had a history of sex work and everyone knows the dangers of certain things.
Yeah, I saw that movie but I had a different reaction to it. Personally, I was not really impressed with this documentary because it is rehashing the same problems found in "Sex: The Annabel Chong story." Now, "Sex: The Annabel Chong story" was great at talking about life before, during, and after Annabel Chong stopped doing porn. Now, she works as a luxury web developer in the Bay Area and she completely destroyed her "Annabel Chong" persona. In fact, she allowed Asian producers to create a play based on her persona. So, it is not that big of a deal to work in the adult industry and work in the vanilla world. However, most ex-adult entertainers work in the arts, food, finance,web design, legal ,nursing and real estate. Personally, I choosed the arts and real estate because I could work without too much judgement. However, I do have several degrees and licenses as well. So, I am not too worried about "life after porn".:cat:
 
I haven't seen it but I'm always reminded that there is much profit in being anti-sex work. I know of many former sex workers who have made a living now being exactly that: former sex workers, who give talks and interviews and are supported by the rescue industry or other lobbyists who will give them money to speak to their issue.

That isn't to undermine the genuinely terrible experiences that many sex workers have had in the industry, and their voices are important. But I'm always a bit wary of those who "got theirs" and then decide the industry is the worst and must be abolished.

Also I'd reckon that many former porn actors who've gone on to do other things (careers, family) are not the type to expose themselves in a documentary. So the folks who opt to be in these films are the ones still linked to their "past" life and that's gonna give you a huge bias in terms of content.
 
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I saw it a good number of years ago and had a very different reaction as well. It took peoples personal weaknesses and struggles and put them on porn, completely removing personal responsibility from those individuals.
I am not a very impressionable person though and come from a family of addicts, while being almost resistant to addiction myself. I watched both of my parents put both the blame and the honor on entities other than themselves my whole life growing up, and still am. Being the personality type that I am, it's incredibly frustrating and this documentary triggered the same feelings my parents give me.

I've had many jobs, and every job I've had was full of people with ALL the same life struggles. Sex work does not have a higher amount of sex abuse survivors, it's just the only industry anyone has ever cared to consider because it helps further a narrative that can be used against our sovereignty and free will to chose in good mind what others can't fathom.
 
If you feel you're impressionable it might be good to remind yourself that you don't need to be empowered. You are already powerful. Sex work doesn't give you power or take it away. There's always talk of what diminishes or empowers us as women, but none of it is real. Just buzz. Acknowledging the negatives does not change your positive experience, and these documentaries always pick a side.
 
The "movie" is true....sadly I was like some of these girls....most girls dont last long in the business...Sasha Grey, Belladona, Jesse Jameson are no more...its rare find girls that have been in business more then 2 years+...even Houston is camming cause once you go this road it seem you cant get out of it. I "think" all girls should watch it before going into the business cause it shows what happens...and maybe they wont go down that road....** that my two cent**
 
The "movie" is true....sadly I was like some of these girls....most girls dont last long in the business...Sasha Grey, Belladona, Jesse Jameson are no more...its rare find girls that have been in business more then 2 years+...even Houston is camming cause once you go this road it seem you cant get out of it. I "think" all girls should watch it before going into the business cause it shows what happens...and maybe they wont go down that road....** that my two cent**

I'm kind of intrigued by your response, but I am not sure if I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say. You want girls to watch the movie so they don't get involved in the sex industry? Why do you feel this way?
 
@JoleneBrody I agree.

If some one has a problem like a drug addiction. They're going to go into a self destructive cycle. Porn may have been an enabler. But any thing to do with money is an enabler. It could have been credit cards. Or any kind of job.
 
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The "movie" is true....sadly I was like some of these girls....most girls dont last long in the business...Sasha Grey, Belladona, Jesse Jameson are no more...its rare find girls that have been in business more then 2 years+...even Houston is camming cause once you go this road it seem you cant get out of it. I "think" all girls should watch it before going into the business cause it shows what happens...and maybe they wont go down that road....** that my two cent**
Sasha Grey said she was coerced into porn by her abusive ex-boyfriend.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/08/sasha...r-porn-boyfriend-spy-agent-dia/#ixzz39q4Kswds
 
Thanks for the insightful responses.

For some reason last night I watched "Hot Girls Wanted" which has a similar, if not worse take on the industry.

I am really grateful for camming and my experiences with it thus far have been, for the most part, very positive. Anytime anything went too far, I had the option to just turn the computer off. It feels safer.
 
I've done both escorting and camming. I much prefer camming to escorting because I can truly enforce my own limits. Both have given me a chance to make ends meet where otherwise I wouldn't have been able to; however, I can totally understand feeling trapped and potentially loathing it if you feel like you have no other choice. I'm not really qualified or suited for anything else, so it does sometimes get me down that this is where I've ended up. Still, one way or the other, you are selling your body to someone. With sex work, you are selling it on your own terms and the fruits of your labor are truly yours.

Success in sex work is, to some degree, dependent on how attractive you are. I struggle with dysphoria and self-esteem, which can either be validated by the adulation I receive or my sense of self can be warped when it isn't validated. Your success as a sex worker then gets tied to your self-image. That's a pretty potent combo for spiraling into self-destruction.
 
Thanks for the insightful responses.

For some reason last night I watched "Hot Girls Wanted" which has a similar, if not worse take on the industry.

I am really grateful for camming and my experiences with it thus far have been, for the most part, very positive. Anytime anything went too far, I had the option to just turn the computer off. It feels safer.

Hot Girls Wanted is one of the worst documentaries, in my opinion. Almost a smear campaign, it was difficult for me to even watch the whole thing. I remember reading on the x biz forum that the people in the film had no idea that they were going to be painted in such a negative light. That's something to ALWAYS remember about documentaries, they will always have a spin and the people who take part don't always necessarily realize what they are partaking in.

I also always try to remember that people love to put things in a controversial negative light as opposed to the positive. I second the idea to watch the Cam Girlz doc if you haven't already. There are a couple other decent ones out there that don't paint all of us as naive, powerless women being objectified.
 
With sex work, you are selling it on your own terms and the fruits of your labor are truly yours.
I agree with so much of your post, but this part seems to apply to some types of sex work much more then others. Independent camming, probably. Porn, maybe not. If Vivid paid me $500 to be in a scene and tomorrow I said "actually I'm quitting, can you please stop selling that video?", they'd likely say no and I'd have no legal (or arguably ethical) right to ask. I don't own the fruits of my labour nor am I necessarily selling it on my own terms. That's neither good or bad inherently, but I do think it's important to acknowledge that many forms of sex work are (like most jobs) not done on ones own terms.

Sex work like camming and maybe indie escorting can offer more opportunities to set your own boundaries, work as much or as little as you want/need, etc but I think those are unique to certain types of sex work and definitely not reflective of all (or, I'd guess most) sex work experiences.

Working for a strip club, porn company, escort agency, etc means you're working on their terms to varying extents and while that's common in any job, in my experience and observation the legality and general atmosphere of the sex industry means the employers are often more exploitative, because employees have less options (there's only so many strip clubs in town) and are perceived as less likely to complain. Plus if the money's good enough at an agency, you're probably going to just deal with the bad parts rather than quit and make $10 at McDonalds. Anyone else paid a fine for being late, or wearing an outfit your boss doesn't like? Haha I'm glad that's not a thing in the real world.
 
Good points! I did not really stop to consider those since I've only done independent escorting and camming.
 
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Hot Girls Wanted is one of the worst documentaries, in my opinion. Almost a smear campaign, it was difficult for me to even watch the whole thing. I remember reading on the x biz forum that the people in the film had no idea that they were going to be painted in such a negative light. That's something to ALWAYS remember about documentaries, they will always have a spin and the people who take part don't always necessarily realize what they are partaking in.

I also always try to remember that people love to put things in a controversial negative light as opposed to the positive. I second the idea to watch the Cam Girlz doc if you haven't already. There are a couple other decent ones out there that don't paint all of us as naive, powerless women being objectified.

I've watched all three. After Porn Ends (the one Mojito watched), CamGirlz, and Hot Girls Wanted. They all have a POV (point of view). Camgirlz is the only one that really focused on camming as has been discussed many times on this forum, camming is probably safest/best option for a woman in the sex industry. The least likely of being exploited or assaulted.

After Porn Ends really focused of porn superstars. Most everybody they talked to that was an actor or actress was at top of the industry or box cover babes (as they use to say in the old days of VHS tapes and DVDs). Even then with rare exception, like Jeanne Jameson, the girls had short careers of a two to five years. The guys had far longer careers, but with much lower pay. In many ways, I found the documentary
optimistic; sure the girls and guys struggled to deal with no longer being a celebrity and substance abuse. But most found careers after porn, selling real estate, a private investigator, mother and housewife and these were very high profile sex workers. Which means that it shouldn't be that hard for much lower profile camgirls to find a career after camming.

I understand why girls don't like Hot Girls Wanted, it certainly was made with an agenda that sex work is bad. However, the one I thing I did like about it is it focused on the experience of the average girl in the porn biz, which is far more typical than the superstars. All entertainment businesses are looking for new talent, but probably none is more demanding of new blood than the adult entertainment business. I think their portrayal of a young girl entering the biz, finding some success, and then a year later out of the business with not a lot of money to show for it is the norm. I don't know if the wrecked family relationship and other problems they portrayed are what happens in the majority of cases but certainly, happens.

We know from mycamgirl.net that 75% of the new models on MFC quit within 6 months. But this forum doesn't really see these girls. They may post to one thread, begging for help, they get some good advice, but then they disappear and I suspect in the vast majority of cases they give up on camming. The thing I liked about camgirlz is it showed a wide variety of camgirls: the young, thin, and conventionally pretty girls, as well BBWs, and older models. They did give most of the screen time to the Aella, AwesomeKate, and friends, and VeronicaChaos with their unique camshows rather than the far more common cumshows, but all documentaries have a POV. I went back and looked at the credits for CamGirlz, I recognized around 1/2 the girls. I did notice that many of the lower camscore models had either quit camming or based on their twitter feeds are struggling, several of the higher camscore models had switched to sites like SM that don't particular like working at in order to make ends meet.
The important message of both After Porn Ends and Hot Girls Wanted is that it is hard to become a star in the adult entertainment, but it is even harder to stay a star. I understand that isn't a popular message, but it is reality.

Success in sex work is, to some degree, dependent on how attractive you are. I struggle with dysphoria and self-esteem, which can either be validated by the adulation I receive or my sense of self can be warped when it isn't validated. Your success as a sex worker then gets tied to your self-image. That's a pretty potent combo for spiraling into self-destruction.
I saw it a good number of years ago and had a very different reaction as well. It took peoples personal weaknesses and struggles and put them on porn, completely removing personal responsibility from those individuals.
This opens up two classic chicken-egg questions. Does sex work attract more than its share of people struggling with mental health issues, or does society just look more judgementally at sex worker? Second, does sex work aggravate or cause these issues or did they enter sex work with them?. Finally is camming different than other forms of sex work from a mental healh perspective?
 
I reply to you last set of questions @HiGirlsRHot, to all three yes and yes. I don't think it honestly favors one over the other any more than the population of a call center... based on my experience both managing a top communications call center and knowing/meeting so many camgirls over the years.

The personal gripes and struggles feel pretty similar, and I think are more characteristic of humanity as a whole just looked at with more judgment in sex work.

I do think social anxiety is more prevelant, especially in camming. Camming is very attractive to those with social anxiety but can also feed into it through the isolation/hours this biz often demands. IMO
 
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I agree.

Some documentaries put a really negative spin on things, some go for comedic...it really depends on the channel. That being said, a few years ago on channel 4 (UK girl here), there was a documentary on prostitutes in the north. They were only paid £70 an hour and the brothel kept £20. The conditions they worked in were really filthy and squalid, with the most awful types of customers coming in. Most of the women were 40+ and looked miserable, but the documentary's narrator was making jokes and puns!

The other one was about high class call girls in central London making £5k+ a week. They were drinking champagne every night, ate out everynight, got into the best venues and had a flat in central. That documentary had really dark and creepy music playing throughout, and just made the whole thing look dangerous and creepy - despite how happy they seemed about what they were doing.
 
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