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JoleneJolene said:
You have changed your business plan like 10 times in the last 2 hours and nobody knows what your even talking about or proposing exactly anymore.
You're very flighty and confusing. You also don't bring a business proposal into the offices of your potential clients, get turned down, throw a temper tantrum, make sarcastic comments towards the big boss like you just did towards Amber and expect that they will hear any further variations of your idea. That's just business. We don't need you, you need us. As in any business when this is the case the person who is in need is in no place to be defensive or argumentative and is likely to get an adult version of a spanking when they act like a child.

Before you present your next get rich quick idea to a panel of experts be prepared to be turned down, maybe even laughed at and walk away with some dignity and class so that when you have a good idea people don't instantly laugh it off and you have an actual chance at being successful.

The business model hasn't changed. It's always been about people investing in you? lol huh ?

How it takes shape it's going through some changes :p Thanks for calling it rich quick idea sounds like you were pretty open-minded about it. NOT!
 
Alexandra Cole said:
crowdcamming said:
You can look at kickstarter right now - there are projects on there people are funding why you ask ? because they are passionate about the product! No different here . Just the reward is equity.

Do you know what equity is?

Umm yes ? Ownership interest with the hope of a return on it ?
 
crowdcamming said:
Alexandra Cole said:
crowdcamming said:
You can look at kickstarter right now - there are projects on there people are funding why you ask ? because they are passionate about the product! No different here . Just the reward is equity.

Do you know what equity is?

Umm yes ? Ownership interest with the hope of a return on it ?

Right. And you understand that the barrier to entry is paperthin, right? The start-up capital, etc.
 
I don't know why I keep reading this stuff like it will suddenly make sense. The question that keeps coming to mind is WHY do camgirls need investors? My answer is that we don't. If you're asking that girls give you a percentage of their earnings (no matter how small that percentage) you should be offering some necessary service. You got nothing man. It really just sounds like "Hey dudes that like camgirls give me your $$. I'll give it to the girls and take some of their $$ too". Unless you're the tax man or some super slick con artist (we've established you're not slick, btw), this plan is completely useless and as the always entertaining Jolene mentioned, laughable.
 
mynameisbob84 said:
crowdcamming said:
Thanks for calling it rich quick idea sounds like you were pretty open-minded about it. NOT!

Well you certainly told her :?
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JoleneJolene said:
We don't need you, you need us.

sweetiebatman said:
This will absolutely never ever work, Its an overcomplicated answer to a problem that does not exist

This sums it up. We're the people you're pitching to. If the responses weren't good enough, you need a better idea. I understand the bit about getting what "[we're] worth" in it's entirety (mostly), but this assumes there's a big problem with sites taking a cut. I haven't seen any complaints. These sites work. They make it easy, and I'm glad to pay them for the ease of use.
 
Right. And you understand that the barrier to entry is paperthin, right? The start-up capital, etc.

Umm yes clearly stated that above many times. Go ahead get to the insulting comment this should be a dosey :p
 
crowdcamming said:
Thanks for calling it rich quick idea sounds like you were pretty open-minded about it. NOT!

Did you seriously just "NOT!" psyche two different well established models who gave you advice on how to present yourself better and NOT act like a child?

You just confirmed that all of my advice on how to properly present yourself as an adult to possible business partners was desperately needed, you big baby.

:handgestures-salute:

Thanks for making me laugh though! :lol:

I'm guessing one of these is you.
 

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JickyJuly said:
I don't know why I keep reading this stuff like it will suddenly make sense. The question that keeps coming to mind is WHY do camgirls need investors? My answer is that we don't. If you're asking that girls give you a percentage of their earnings (no matter how small that percentage) you should be offering some necessary service. You got nothing man. It really just sounds like "Hey dudes that like camgirls give me your $$. I'll give it to the girls and take some of their $$ too". Unless you're the tax man or some super slick con artist (we've established you're not slick, btw), this plan is completely useless and as the always entertaining Jolene mentioned, laughable.

So your saying you rather take $100 vs. $200 dollars lets say hypothetically? If people value you more you would do it right ? This isn't complex as people here are making it out to be. The actual crowd funding of business's are already happening so this isn't that crazy of an idea. Now the question is and you've answered it seems for yourself ( I still think there is something here) you have no need for it. That is totally fine answer and this might be the case even I've stated the barrier to entry might be to low to have such a capital investment to make this worthwhile but I still maintain there has to be able to claim what your worth in a better way. :)
 
crowdcamming said:
Right. And you understand that the barrier to entry is paperthin, right? The start-up capital, etc.

Umm yes clearly stated that above many times. Go ahead get to the insulting comment this should be a dosey :p

Seriously?

Nobody in their right mind would give up equity when it isn't required.

(edited for clarity)
 
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:lol: Oh man, this thread got really good! I'm laughing so hard my chest hurts! I'm glad it at least went on a little bit longer!
 
This sums it up. We're the people you're pitching to. If the responses weren't good enough, you need a better idea. I understand the bit about getting what "[we're] worth" in it's entirety (mostly), but this assumes there's a big problem with sites taking a cut. I haven't seen any complaints. These sites work. They make it easy, and I'm glad to pay them for the ease of use.

Could be right. I guess its a question of what you want to earn and who you want to reward for getting you that monetary goal. If someone can get you more $ for the same fee's you would do it I would assume. I don't think its any different then someone deciding to go to another camsite because the "fee's" are less but I get your point.
 
Alexandra Cole said:
crowdcamming said:
Right. And you understand that the barrier to entry is paperthin, right? The start-up capital, etc.

Umm yes clearly stated that above many times. Go ahead get to the insulting comment this should be a dosey :p

Seriously?

Nobody in their right mind would give up equity for something that doesn't require it.

They would if they are getting paid twice as much and paying the same amount in "fee's" . Giving up equity is the equivalent of fee's . Maybe there is some confusion here?
 
crowdcamming said:
JickyJuly said:
I don't know why I keep reading this stuff like it will suddenly make sense. The question that keeps coming to mind is WHY do camgirls need investors? My answer is that we don't. If you're asking that girls give you a percentage of their earnings (no matter how small that percentage) you should be offering some necessary service. You got nothing man. It really just sounds like "Hey dudes that like camgirls give me your $$. I'll give it to the girls and take some of their $$ too". Unless you're the tax man or some super slick con artist (we've established you're not slick, btw), this plan is completely useless and as the always entertaining Jolene mentioned, laughable.

So your saying you rather take $100 vs. $200 dollars lets say hypothetically? If people value you more you would do it right ? This isn't complex as people here are making it out to be. The actual crowd funding of business's are already happening so this isn't that crazy of an idea. Now the question is and you've answered it seems for yourself ( I still think there is something here) you have no need for it. That is totally fine answer and this might be the case even I've stated the barrier to entry might be to low to have such a capital investment to make this worthwhile but I still maintain there has to be able to claim what your worth in a better way. :)
I would ABSOLUTELY prefer to give a portion of my earnings to a reputable site that will respect that I work independently than give a smaller portion to a bunch of goofs who think they bought into my business. Yes. If you are the face of this 2nd higher earning option, yes times 2.
 
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An additional perk to the CC is the cash back bonus. Chase changed their now you can cash out your points for cash at any point, you dont have to wait for them to hit 2500 or 5000 to use them.

Also, by utilizing 0% interest transfers and CC checks, you can make small investments with interest free money.
And when you are just using the cards normally, racking up points.... the points often are enough to cancel out the interest fees.

If you use CCs smart.... you never pay a dime of interest in reality, plus you make a few bucks back.
Or gift cards back, just as good.


I can't honestly figure out why, if you can in any way obtain a few credit cards, you would ever go looking for $100 investors on a cam site to fund your business.
:think:

The whole idea stinks like a scam to me.
 
crowdcamming said:
This sums it up. We're the people you're pitching to. If the responses weren't good enough, you need a better idea. I understand the bit about getting what "[we're] worth" in it's entirety (mostly), but this assumes there's a big problem with sites taking a cut. I haven't seen any complaints. These sites work. They make it easy, and I'm glad to pay them for the ease of use.

Could be right. I guess its a question of what you want to earn and who you want to reward for getting you that monetary goal. If someone can get you more $ for the same fee's you would do it I would assume. I don't think its any different then someone deciding to go to another camsite because the "fee's" are less but I get your point.

MFC has exceeded the amount I want to earn in a month, and I am beyond thrilled to reward them with providing me with a service that can far exceed my expectations. If there was another site that offered me a larger cut, I would be extremely hesitant to start all over for that larger cut. That's a huge risk in itself.
 
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I would ABSOLUTELY prefer to give a portion of my earnings to a reputable site that will respect that I work independently than give a smaller portion to a bunch of goofs who think they bought into my business. Yes. If you are the face of this 2nd higher earning option, yes times 2.

So your clients, friends, colleagues aren't reputable people ? Ok....I can't argue around that if you feel that way.
 
MFC has exceeded the amount I want to earn in a month, and I am beyond thrilled to reward them with providing me with a service that can far exceed my expectations. If there was another site that offered a larger cut, I would be extremely hesitant to start all over for that larger cut. That's a huge risk in itself.

Wait... so your saying you would rather take a lesser cut (not make more money) on another site if all things are equal ? Ok, not sure what I can say to that.
 
crowdcamming said:
This sums it up. We're the people you're pitching to. If the responses weren't good enough, you need a better idea. I understand the bit about getting what "[we're] worth" in it's entirety (mostly), but this assumes there's a big problem with sites taking a cut. I haven't seen any complaints. These sites work. They make it easy, and I'm glad to pay them for the ease of use.

Could be right. I guess its a question of what you want to earn and who you want to reward for getting you that monetary goal. If someone can get you more $ for the same fee's you would do it I would assume. I don't think its any different then someone deciding to go to another camsite because the "fee's" are less but I get your point.
Whelp we went from start up costs in order to work on sites like MFC to you now proposing a cam site, I guess? You haven't really been clear in how your idea would even be able to cut out the cost of a cam site? Is this not start up costs anymore?

And just to be clear cam sites offer a high cut to the models all the time, they aren't complicated with "investors" and work just like all exisiting cam sites in ease of use but still fail because the market is saturated and most models aren't willing to make a bigger cut for less traffic because in the end that still means less money.
 
crowdcamming said:
I would ABSOLUTELY prefer to give a portion of my earnings to a reputable site that will respect that I work independently than give a smaller portion to a bunch of goofs who think they bought into my business. Yes. If you are the face of this 2nd higher earning option, yes times 2.

So your clients, friends, colleagues aren't reputable people ? Ok....I can't argue around that if you feel that way.

"Oh no, she didn't agree with me so I have to turn her words around and use them against her". Classic.
 
crowdcamming said:
MFC has exceeded the amount I want to earn in a month, and I am beyond thrilled to reward them with providing me with a service that can far exceed my expectations. If there was another site that offered a larger cut, I would be extremely hesitant to start all over for that larger cut. That's a huge risk in itself.

Wait... so your saying you would rather take a lesser cut (not make more money) on another site if all things are equal ? Ok, not sure what I can say to that.


Da fuq did you just read up there, brotherman?

I'd rather pay a reputable site than start from scratch. How did you misinterpret that?
 
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