[Idea] Crowdfunding Cam Girls

[sweetiebatman]

Jeez it was a joke, a throwaway comment made in jest that referenced an long and quite interesting post, If you want to debate the pros and cons of Bitcoinsdig that thread up please!

On topics'z pleeze bb!

 

[crowdcamming]

Jeez it was a joke, a throwaway comment made in jest that referenced an long and quite interesting post, If you want to debate the pros and cons of Bitcoinsdig that thread up please!

On topics'z pleeze bb!

Lol I think any poster would be pissed if they were accused of being a drug user / pedophile for using bitcoin ? Natural reaction . Pick a better joke next time

 

[sweetiebatman]

Jeez it was a joke, a throwaway comment made in jest that referenced an long and quite interesting post, If you want to debate the pros and cons of Bitcoinsdig that thread up please!

On topics'z pleeze bb!

Lol I think any poster would be pissed if they were accused of being a drug user / pedophile for using bitcoin ? Natural reaction . Pick a better joke next time

That wasn't my joke :whistle:

But anyways..

 

[SatanJonez]

Being back on topic would be awesome. Not that this was a super one to start with, but it's better than seeing someone make a bigger and bigger ass out of themselves

 

[crowdcamming]

Being back on topic would be awesome. Not that this was a super one to start with, but it's better than seeing someone make a bigger and bigger ass out of themselves

And how am I making an ass out myself? Make note amber this was an attack in me I never attack this person .

 

[SatanJonez]

Being back on topic would be awesome. Not that this was a super one to start with, but it's better than seeing someone make a bigger and bigger ass out of themselves

And how am I making an ass out myself? Make note amber this was an attack in me I never attack this person .

She told you to discuss BitCoins in it's actual thread, you refused & keep acting butthurt at everything anyone says. As far as internet etiquette goes you're making yourself seem like a dink. Hell, I would even go as far to say that your lack of professional attitude discredits anything you have to say about BitCoins.

 

[AmberCutie]

Jeez it was a joke, a throwaway comment made in jest that referenced an long and quite interesting post, If you want to debate the pros and cons of Bitcoinsdig that thread up please!

On topics'z pleeze bb!

And I thought it was funny, lol. Bitcoins thread was locked because absolutely no new/constructive information or thoughts were being posted in that thread, and it looks like this thread is turning out the same...

No one was attacking anyone here. I said that I'd freak out if this turned into a Bitcoins thread (due to it already being discussed to death in another thread) and that was before I even realized that you're the same person as goldieloxx.

As I asked before, get back on topic of the OP or this will be locked. If you decide you can't comply with this request, I'll lock AND ban.

I'm trying to keep this light and friendly, please don't turn this into more drama than it needs to be.

Again, please and thank you.

Topic at hand: investing up front in a camgirl's career to get her up and running (business-wise) and getting something in return, whether it be a % of her income, or treats/goodies/etc.

And GO!

 

[Evvie]

Jeez it was a joke, a throwaway comment made in jest that referenced an long and quite interesting post, If you want to debate the pros and cons of Bitcoinsdig that thread up please!

On topics'z pleeze bb!

Lol I think any poster would be pissed if they were accused of being a drug user / pedophile for using bitcoin ? Natural reaction . Pick a better joke next time

Your mother told you that you were special a few too many times

 

[crowdcamming]

Being back on topic would be awesome. Not that this was a super one to start with, but it's better than seeing someone make a bigger and bigger ass out of themselves

And how am I making an ass out myself? Make note amber this was an attack in me I never attack this person .

She told you to discuss BitCoins in it's actual thread, you refused & keep acting butthurt at everything anyone says. As far as internet etiquette goes you're making yourself seem like a dink. Hell, I would even go as far to say that your lack of professional attitude discredits anything you have to say about BitCoins.

As if anything I would say would convince you otherwise lol what a joke you are. No, I have a right to ask the admin of this forum for clarification on why bitcoin can't be mentioned on a thread if that makes me an as then wait till I am an ass it would be nice to know the official stance from Amber an this forum if users who accept bitcoin as a form of payment are pedofiles, drug users , hiring hit men and committing fraud by using accepting it as payment - can she give an official statement on the other thread then since that is the only place bitcoin can be talked about.

 

[crowdcamming]

Jeez it was a joke, a throwaway comment made in jest that referenced an long and quite interesting post, If you want to debate the pros and cons of Bitcoinsdig that thread up please!

On topics'z pleeze bb!

Lol I think any poster would be pissed if they were accused of being a drug user / pedophile for using bitcoin ? Natural reaction . Pick a better joke next time

Your mother told you that you were special a few too many times

Have you seen your profile picture ?

 

[sweetiebatman]

It didn't work Amberrrrr


Unleash Das Official Banhammer!! :thumbleft:

 

[SatanJonez]

No, I have a right to ask the admin of this forum for clarification on why bitcoin can't be mentioned on a thread if that makes me an as then wait till I am an ass

This is not a democracy, this is a fucking dictatorship. Usually a very nice one with rainbows, unicorns and sparkles, but you're fucking it up for yourself by not realizing Amber owes you nothing. Zip. Notta. This could have been a topic where you got the feedback you wanted, but you're choosing to focus on one tiny thing that ruffled your feathers so much it's caused you to derail your own thread. You still have a chance to get back on topic, I think. You should try that.

 

[crowdcamming]

It didn't work Amberrrrr


Unleash Das Official Banhammer!! :thumbleft:

She'll ban me but not peeps attacking me great !

 

[SatanJonez]

It didn't work Amberrrrr


Unleash Das Official Banhammer!! :thumbleft:

She'll ban me but not the person calling me a special needs child watch.

I think Evvie actually meant your mother coddled you to the point where you are very disillusioned about reality. But I could be wrong.

 

[sweetiebatman]

I'm searching in vain for that particular quote..

 

[JoleneBrody]

:shock: Jesus christ on a pogo stick hopping down a cobble stone road, you really have no interest in people trusting you or taking your idea seriously, do you?
Congrats! The most popular and heavily occupied camgirl forum now all think you are an idiot asshat and will never use any site that looks even remotely like you've suggested because they assume you are behind it.

It's a terrible idea anyway for reasons you will likely never understand unless you are a camgirl but MAYBE some people would have been interested if you hadn't insisted on arguing with the admin like a little kid because you misread something. No one said using bitcoins makes you a pedophile, drug dealer, whatever just that they are being used a lot for those purposes. JESUS!
As Ambah said, already discussed in length... needs no further discussion... what about that explanation do you not fucking understand?

 

[crowdcamming]

I'm searching in vain for that particular quote..[/]

Your still searching for the bitcoin joke don't bother

 

[JickyJuly]

On topic after giggling at Batman's well placed joke :lol:
Does anyone else feel like there seems to be subsection of men who are always trying to find a way to get a cut of camgirl money? It's like the idea that some women can make cash at a job that's not an option for them is unacceptable to their brains. I find it obnoxious.

There is no real financially lucrative market for the funding idea. There are enough decent guys out there willing to help out a new girl they find likeable, and even without that, any minimally business minded gal can scrape together $75 for a camera and a little cash to upgrade her internet. We already share our commission with the sites that we choose to work with. Giving away more of it is silly. On top of that, a camgirl who doesn't have the gumption to come up with the small amount of required equipment is likely not going to be successful once you buy it for her. A small percentage of her small earnings isn't going to be worthwhile. Unless you have enough money and time to put together a site that hosts girls and can offer them more than the sites already around, there's no reason to bother.

 

[LailaBaise]

It didn't work Amberrrrr


Unleash Das Official Banhammer!! :thumbleft:

She'll ban me but not peeps attacking me great !

She never called you special needs. In fact I think she was referring to the spoiled brat sense of entitlement you are displaying in someone's else's home. Don't put your feet up on the table and be astonished when someone asks you to take them back down. You have been asked nicely to remain on the topic you began. You refuse. You're behaving like a child. :twocents-02cents:

 

[SophiaLocke]

I'm searching in vain for that particular quote..

Your still searching for the bitcoin joke don't bother

*You're

 

[SatanJonez]

On topic after giggling at Batman's well placed joke :lol:
Does anyone else feel like there seems to be subsection of men who are always trying to find a way to get a cut of camgirl money? It's like the idea that some women can make cash at a job that's not an option for them is unacceptable to their brains. I find it obnoxious.

There is no real financially lucrative market for the funding idea. There are enough decent guys out there willing to help out a new girl they find likeable, and even without that, any minimally business minded gal can scrape together $75 for a camera and a little cash to upgrade her internet. We already share our commission with the sites that we choose to work with. Giving away more of it is silly. On top of that, a camgirl who doesn't have the gumption to come up with the small amount of required equipment is likely not going to be successful once you buy it for her. A small percentage of her small earnings isn't going to be worthwhile. Unless you have enough money and time to put together a site that hosts girls and can offer them more than the sites already around, there's no reason to bother.

This is exactly why I pointed out earlier I did not like the whole vibe behind this idea. Thank you for wording it better than I ever could.

 

[crowdcamming]

:shock: Jesus christ on a pogo stick hopping down a cobble stone road, you really have no interest in people trusting you or taking your idea seriously, do you?
Congrats! The most popular and heavily occupied camgirl forum now all think you are an idiot asshat and will never use any site that looks even remotely like you've suggested because they assume you are behind it.

It's a terrible idea anyway for reasons you will likely never understand unless you are a camgirl but MAYBE some people would have been interested if you hadn't insisted on arguing with the admin like a little kid because you misread something. No one said using bitcoins makes you a pedophile, drug dealer, whatever just that they are being used a lot for those purposes. JESUS!
As Ambah said, already discussed in length... needs no further discussion... what about that explanation do you not fucking understand?

Really? Have you seen that other thread ? I mean really?

 

[crowdcamming]

No, I have a right to ask the admin of this forum for clarification on why bitcoin can't be mentioned on a thread if that makes me an as then wait till I am an ass

This is not a democracy, this is a fucking dictatorship. Usually a very nice one with rainbows, unicorns and sparkles, but you're fucking it up for yourself by not realizing Amber owes you nothing. Zip. Notta. This could have been a topic where you got the feedback you wanted, but you're choosing to focus on one tiny thing that ruffled your feathers so much it's caused you to derail your own thread. You still have a chance to get back on topic, I think. You should try that.

Nice language your so friendly and inviting! NOT!

Actually, she does . People in this forum who use bitcoin would like to know - I mean would you participate in a forum where people accuse of being associated with cp/drugs for using bitcoins. I think not. It's simple to do - she can say people who mention bitcoin can be called names or not be called names and discussed in the proper area?

 

[AmberCutie]

ONE MORE TIME.

On topic, or GTFO. Seriously. I'm asking everyone, not just goldieloxx/CC.

The last thing I'll say on the tangent is that I (and many others) explained in the actual Bitcoins thread all of our feelings on it, and no one here is calling you a pedo/drug dealer, you're the one who started that conversation. And it needs to end. Now.

Any more posts not on topic will be deleted with out any more warning. Or I'll Just delete the entire thread.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

Back on topic...

Selling off shares to a small business is in my opinion a little foolish. In a sole proprietorship setup as a cam model is running, or setting up an LLC t take better advantage of the US' screwy tax system you have no need for "investors" who are only buying 100 dollar shares. It would end up being a nightmare.

You're far better off to set up a basic LLC with a legit and respectable front name (respectable as it pertains to obtaining business loans and the like. The more mainstream "normal" it appears the easier life is.) and then operate a multi faceted business. Once you have set that up, getting a loan for equipment in one lump sum at a low interest rate s MUCH better than having to deal with paying back and reporting to "investors".

Too many people up in your business will just make you nuts. Trust me.

If you have good credit, and have at least one good standing credit card, many CC companies such as Chase will issue a business line of credit with lower interest than a normal CC.

Example: When I first obtained a chase CC yrs ago, they gave me a $500 limit. After about 6 months they offered me a business CC. I said what the hell, and applied for it. The terms in the fine print are more like a standard bank loan, but it's no big deal. Anyway, I had a normal CC with a $500 @19%
and the Business card they issued was a $10K limit @12%.

Once they smell you have an LLC or better, they will offer you all sorts of cool shit.

My point is, fuck investors for a small business. If you're talking about $100 investors they are not worth the trouble, you'll need 10 of them to make a measly $1000 investment.
:?
Yeah, 10 fucktards who now think they own you. And in a legal sense they kinda do.

Even if your credit stinks, if you can secure a personal loan from a private party you'll be far better off.
Or, simply find ONE investor to back you with a contract that terminates their hold on you once the principle + a set amount of interest is returned.

Unless you are dealing with metric fuck tons of potential profit from a business venture with room for expansion... fuck investors.
I know how much of a pain in the ass the average investor can be (10's of 1000's of dollars) I can imagine how much of a hemorrhoid a $100 investor would be.... let alone 10 or 15 of them.

If you are going to run your camming like a business, do it like a proper business. Getting 15 perves on the interwebz to invest $100 each for equipment with little or no proper paperwork is just a horror show waiting to start.

 

[SatanJonez]

Back on topic: don't people already do this type of thing with cam girls they enjoy watching? All most girls have to do is add something to their wishlist & offer an exchange of goods (item for smut) or put it as a goal for their countdown. It sounds a bit off to have someone flat out own any part of a girls (or guys if you want to include sites that allow them) income when as someone already mentioned girls who work on third party sites already have to give up a part of it anyways.

Some girls make take interest in it, but in the long run it seems idiotic to let someone own you like that.

 

[crowdcamming]

Back on topic...

Selling off shares to a small business is in my opinion a little foolish. In a sole proprietorship setup as a cam model is running, or setting up an LLC t take better advantage of the US' screwy tax system you have no need for "investors" who are only buying 100 dollar shares. It would end up being a nightmare.

You're far better off to set up a basic LLC with a legit and respectable front name (respectable as it pertains to obtaining business loans and the like. The more mainstream "normal" it appears the easier life is.) and then operate a multi faceted business. Once you have set that up, getting a loan for equipment in one lump sum at a low interest rate s MUCH better than having to deal with paying back and reporting to "investors".

Too many people up in your business will just make you nuts. Trust me.

If you have good credit, and have at least one good standing credit card, many CC companies such as Chase will issue a business line of credit with lower interest than a normal CC.

Example: When I first obtained a chase CC yrs ago, they gave me a $500 limit. After about 6 months they offered me a business CC. I said what the hell, and applied for it. The terms in the fine print are more like a standard bank loan, but it's no big deal. Anyway, I had a normal CC with a $500 @19%
and the Business card they issued was a $10 limit @12%.

Once they smell you have an LLC or better, they will offer you all sorts of cool shit.

My point is, fuck investors for a small business. If you're talking about $100 investors they are not worth the trouble, you'll need 10 of them to make a measly $1000 investment.
:?
Yeah, 10 fucktards who now think they own you. And in a legal sense they kinda do.

Even if your credit stinks, if you can secure a personal loan from a private party you'll be far better off.
Or, simply find ONE investor to back you with a contract that terminates their hold on you once the principle + a set amount of interest is returned.

Unless you are dealing with metric fuck tons of potential profit from a business venture with room for expansion... fuck investors.
I know how much of a pain in the ass the average investor can be (10's of 1000's of dollars) I can imagine how much of a hemorrhoid a $100 investor would be.... let alone 10 or 15 of them.

If you are going to run your camming like a business, do it like a proper business. Getting 15 perves on the interwebz to invest $100 each for equipment with little or no proper paperwork is just a horror show waiting to start.

Yes, I hear what your saying. I suppose the better angle is the set-up of the webcamming business. I can tell your resiment for investors As mentioned above someone was mentioning they don't want to be controlled by their investors which I'm not sure is entirely true. I think alot of people would be hands-off and let the models do what they want. I think the webcam site business model fits this pretty nicely thanks for the constructive feedback!

 

[crowdcamming]

Back on topic: don't people already do this type of thing with cam girls they enjoy watching? All most girls have to do is add something to their wishlist & offer an exchange of goods (item for smut) or put it as a goal for their countdown. It sounds a bit off to have someone flat out own any part of a girls (or guys if you want to include sites that allow them) income when as someone already mentioned girls who work on third party sites already have to give up a part of it anyways.

Some girls make take interest in it, but in the long run it seems idiotic to let someone own you like that.

Yes, thats what was mentioned above. A wish-list system basically solves this in a lot of ways. Seems I'm pretty good at creating "mob" situations lol .... I want to throw another idea at you - how about "flash-mob webcam shows" - where people would all come in and pay? Thanks for talking about the idea at least :dance:

 

[Jessi]

We already have sites like extra lunch money, mygirlfund, myfreeimplants etc. And wishlists on Amazon so many models make member friends who help them with laptops and webcams. With Payoneer a member can send a model money directly without personal info ever being swapped (no need for paypal, and I think every model should sign up for it even if she's getting paid via cheque/bank wire).
The advertising and publicity provided by big sites like Streamate or MFC gives us everything we need in that department. Unless you're already a big name pornstar, hosting chats on your own site wouldn't get much traffic.
The only thing I see us lacking for is an adult friendly Chipin partner.
Crowdfunding and microloans just wouldnt work for camming because we already have tools at our disposal which work quite well.

 

[crowdcamming]

We already have sites like extra lunch money, mygirlfund, myfreeimplants etc. And wishlists on Amazon so many models make member friends who help them with laptops and webcams. With Payoneer a member can send a model money directly without personal info ever being swapped (no need for paypal, and I think every model should sign up for it even if she's getting paid via cheque/bank wire).
The advertising and publicity provided by big sites like Streamate or MFC gives us everything we need in that department. Unless you're already a big name pornstar, hosting chats on your own site wouldn't get much traffic.
The only thing I see us lacking for is an adult friendly Chipin partner.
Crowdfunding and microloans just wouldnt work for camming because we already have tools at our disposal which work quite well.

Ah yes the chipin is an interesting take also. Would that be of use? I suppose you could set a general fund goal and try to get it reached or something ? Good thinking. I'm aware of those other sites the only thing I was introducing was equity-based angle which goes beyond what extra free lunch, mygirlfund, myfreeimplants <- interesting lol .... tend to do. But I hear what your saying.