I don't care about your finances

[Deleted member 565]

I honestly think that this is a two way street. I do not really think that it is fair for models to post to everyone in their topic that they require money because of ____ tragedy that is happening in their lives. I do think though that it is appropriate if a member is closer with a model, and knows about her day to day life that there are some details and stresses that are allowed to be shared within that relationship. Not as a money grubbing scheme, but I personally consider a lot of my members to be really great friends and when they ask me what's bothering me, I'm not going to lie to them.

I also don't really think that it is very fair when members tell me they can't tip because of ____ random excuse. To be honest, I don't really care if people tip or not. I care predominantly about having good company and conversation in my room, it's what makes it what it is and because it's an enjoyable space to be in because of the members who contribute more than money. They make me smile, and keep me entertained when things are slow, so it's not really all about what you make. For me it's the friends that I make.
I agree that you shouldn't be asking for money because of some sob story, but I do not agree with the broad statement that models just turn a blind eye to those who don't pay for their attention. You get my attention by being a person worthy of my attention, not because you have money.

 

[Jupiter551]

I think we might also want to make a distinction between some random calamity and daily or biweekly whinging.

For instance, if a model I was friends with just had her house burn down, parent die, pet fall ill, child fall ill or any one of a dozen other horrible things happen then yes I'd want to know because I'd want to help. That's a GENUINE need.

On the other hand I've seen models on newsfeeds who one day say they were mugged, the next that their place was burgled, then their car broke down, each time asking for tokens in a pretty negative sort of way to the point where it was obviously a tactic to elicit sympathy.

It works too, the first couple times people will feel sorry for you, but let's be clear here - people don't like to feel like they're being fooled, or used, and that's going to happen if they feel your 'financial difficulties' aren't coming off completely genuine.

 

[Adrianna_]

Few days ago, I heard a model with around 20000 camscore, almost every month in top 100 and very often in top 20 to tell her regulars, that she can't afford to go in London for the olympics, because plane tickets are very expencive. She got showered with thousands in minutes (like every day btw) and consoled about how hard her life is. I bet she drives a Benz and has at least 3 Chanel bags, while some of her members will probably pay the loan they took to tip her till the rest of their miserable life. I just hope there is karma.
:twocents-02cents:

This is sort of wrong, I think. I don't know this girl or how she runs her room and maybe she did get lots of tokens for days and days, but behind the scenes you have no idea what her financial situation is. She could have kids to feed, elderly parents to take care of, bills, mortgages, car payments, student loan debt. Her life could actually be hard and the people showering her with countless tokens might know it or they could just really want to shower her with tokens. You don't really know what her situation is.

I just hope there is karma.

This just strikes me as all sorts of rudeness.

PATD

I can't afford going to London for the Olympics either :crybaby:

Who will tip me so I can go?

When I was in little league and it was time to travel for the regionals, we sold everything from candy bars to magazines to light bulbs as a fundraiser. The costs for the Olympic athletes for training and travel are astronomical. Has anyone considered that maybe...just maybe...she is an athlete looking for sponsorship money?

No...? Me either! Like I said in a previous post: Don't ask me for help to fix your Mercedes when I need help with my Mazda.

If she was an athlete...would make for a hell of a gold medal winning acceptance speech though: "Thank you Ataboy...mi dildo in mi pussy and your tokens..allow mi to throw discuss very far for mi country" Sorry...it was rude of me to suspect that she was from an eastern European country...OOPS!

I was trying to make a point. Many MFC members would believe anything and some models abuse that. Now, as many of you know how much approximately a model in top 100 or 20 is making, saying "I can't afford a plane ticket" and taking advantage of peoples good hearts is just wrong.
She is not an athlet, she does not have kids, she does not have loans and believe me, she can afford not just a plane ticket, but a whole plane!

P.S. Pardon my poor English, I am from Eastern Europe too and very often ashamed to say it because of cases like the mentioned above. Peace.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

She is not an athlet, she does not have kids, she does not have loans and believe me, she can afford not just a plane ticket, but a whole plane!

HOW do you know this? Many models HIDE the fact that they have children. Many models DONT mention the fact that they're drowning in debt. I almost NEVER mentioned that I spent last year paying off my ex-husband until it was done.

So I'm sorry but unless you're FAMILY to this woman, or you are her accountant, how in hell's name do you KNOW what she can and cannot afford.

That's bull. fucking. shit.

.

 

[Adrianna_]

She is not an athlet, she does not have kids, she does not have loans and believe me, she can afford not just a plane ticket, but a whole plane!

HOW do you know this? Many models HIDE the fact that they have children. Many models DONT mention the fact that they're drowning in debt. I almost NEVER mentioned that I spent last year paying off my ex-husband until it was done.

So I'm sorry but unless you're FAMILY to this woman, or you are her accountant, how in hell's name do you KNOW what she can and cannot afford.

That's bull. fucking. shit.

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I happen to know her in real life. Again, I was trying to make a point.
Also, just thought about the funny fact that I never heard a top model from the US/Canada/UK/Western Europe saying she can't afford a plane ticket and life is way more expencive there. But may be its just me.

 

[Rileyster]

She is not an athlet, she does not have kids, she does not have loans and believe me, she can afford not just a plane ticket, but a whole plane!

HOW do you know this? Many models HIDE the fact that they have children. Many models DONT mention the fact that they're drowning in debt. I almost NEVER mentioned that I spent last year paying off my ex-husband until it was done.

So I'm sorry but unless you're FAMILY to this woman, or you are her accountant, how in hell's name do you KNOW what she can and cannot afford.

That's bull. fucking. shit.

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I happen to know her in real life. Again, I was trying to make a point.
Also, just thought about the funny fact that I never heard a top model from the US/Canada/UK/Western Europe saying she can't afford a plane ticket and life is way more expencive there. But may be its just me.

Maybe some of those top models from those areas can't afford plane tickets because they may have huge bills to pay off (medical, student debt, etc), and they work that much to be able to afford to? Just a thought.

 

[Adrianna_]

She is not an athlet, she does not have kids, she does not have loans and believe me, she can afford not just a plane ticket, but a whole plane!

HOW do you know this? Many models HIDE the fact that they have children. Many models DONT mention the fact that they're drowning in debt. I almost NEVER mentioned that I spent last year paying off my ex-husband until it was done.

So I'm sorry but unless you're FAMILY to this woman, or you are her accountant, how in hell's name do you KNOW what she can and cannot afford.

That's bull. fucking. shit.

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I happen to know her in real life. Again, I was trying to make a point.
Also, just thought about the funny fact that I never heard a top model from the US/Canada/UK/Western Europe saying she can't afford a plane ticket and life is way more expencive there. But may be its just me.

Maybe some of those top models from those areas can't afford plane tickets because they may have huge bills to pay off (medical, student debt, etc), and they work that much to be able to afford to? Just a thought.

Exactly! But I never saw them play the "Feel sorry for me, I am so poor" card. This is the most played card among Eastern European models and in most cases, total BS.
Now, if you'll excuse me, but I have an appointment at the hairstilyst, where even being only in top 300 and with the small camscore of 4800, I can still go 3 times a week. Because in Eastern Europe it cost 10 hacking $s and I make this money in 4 mins of pvt!

 

[muh!]

I happen to know her in real life. Again, I was trying to make a point.
Also, just thought about the funny fact that I never heard a top model from the US/Canada/UK/Western Europe saying she can't afford a plane ticket and life is way more expencive there. But may be its just me.

Maybe some of those top models from those areas can't afford plane tickets because they may have huge bills to pay off (medical, student debt, etc), and they work that much to be able to afford to? Just a thought.

I think you missed her point.

 

[Jupiter551]

Exactly! But I never saw them play the "Feel sorry for me, I am so poor" card. This is the most played card among Eastern European models and in most cases, total BS.
Now, if you'll excuse me, but I have an appointment at the hairstilyst, where even being only in top 300 and with the small camscore of 4800, I can still go 3 times a week. Because in Eastern Europe it cost 10 hacking $s and I make this money in 4 mins of pvt!

You should tell your poor hairstylist about MFC :lol:

 

[LaceyRoyce]

I happen to know her in real life. Again, I was trying to make a point.

Ok! I realize you're making a point. None of us were aware you know this model in real life either.

I still don't think it's something to wish Karma down upon her for. Or any model.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I honestly appreciate having an Eastern European model step forward and say, Hey! It costs nothing to live here! Yes, we may not understand all aspects of this other models business and we don't need to, it's not our business. But I dunno, I've rolled my eyes at this type of statement many times from top 100 Eastern European models even though I don't know directly what the cost of living is. Just that's it's low and I know exactly what top 100 makes.
It's just nice to hear it from the horses mouth is all I'm sayin.
I am in NO WAY saying only Eastern European models do this.
I don't dig the complaining about finances, I don't like talking about money at all! I would never mention my rent and the closest I do get is maybe posting how much is left to hit my minimum goal for the night if I'm way behind, usually with an offer like spanks or something. I honestly don't even feel comfy about doing that but if I've done everything in my power and still can't hit it an extra push is sometimes needed. Plus my minimum goal is about 3k tokens less than I need to maintain my camscore.

 

[freeezze]

I happen to know her in real life. Again, I was trying to make a point.

Ok! I realize you're making a point. None of us were aware you know this model in real life either.

I still don't think it's something to wish Karma down upon her for. Or any model.

Allow me to put in my two cents about the karma thing. It's worth remembering that English is not Adrianna's first language as she has stated. Expressions and idioms familiar to us are not so familiar to her perhaps. Maybe this is something said in Russia or Poland or Hungary etc on a daily basis between people and simply translates poorly into English.

However let us assume that she does know English well then consider this; I have said "I will kill you/him/them etc " many times in my life but I haven't done so yet. It is just blasting off and blowing hot air.I have posted stuff on the internet myself and regretted it soon after. The "enter" button is far to easy to hit. Very hard to undo. I know a message can be amended but it is pointless doing so after the post has been quoted.


Anyway if you believe in karma, ( I don't) then doesn't it work both ways? Karma can be good or bad. Don't bash the girl for something that doesn't really matter anyway. I'm pretty sure the model she spoke about doesn't care about it. Please let us all chill.

 

[JickyJuly]

If you don't like the topic matter or how a model behaves then take a second and realize that's YOUR issue. You are trying to inflict your views on everyone else. It's just another attempt by a member to tell a model how she should handle her business. "Grrrrrr, when will these women learn that they are here to obey me!". Taking the stance of the guy who "has it all figured out" just makes you sadder.

Thanking this part just didn't seem like enough. Appreciative headbang commence. :character-beavisbutthead:

 

[Anonymous]

Anyway if you believe in karma, ( I don't) then doesn't it work both ways? Karma can be good or bad. Don't bash the girl for something that doesn't really matter anyway. I'm pretty sure the model she spoke about doesn't care about it. Please let us all chill.

LMAO. Nobody was "bashing" her.

If you want to know what bashing is, go into the room of a MFC model who's allowing abusive guests to talk...lol.

 

[Marokite]

I've read a few people getting upset over the Karma statement. But when I read it, I guess it didn't have the same meaning as it did to some of you. Since Karma is neither negative or positive, I didn't get upset by the comment because a) you can't cause "karma" to happen and b) wishing people get what they deserve seems to be a common practice. (The threads in Random concerning certain cases for example)
If a model or a member is lying about their situation just for pity or if they are abusing their relationship with their members (whether the members realize it or not) then they should worry about how and when it's going to bite them in the ass. To be more specific: EVERYONE should get the Karma they deserve.

Now back on the topic:
I don't see an issue with mentioning a monthly goal or bringing up a special circumstance. It's also not a problem for me if a model has a specific thing she is working towards. For example, if she wants (may not need) to get something and requires a little extra to be able to get it. What DOES bother me is when a model rests the "blame" for her situation on the shoulders of the members. It's using guilt and embarrassment to force members to yield. For some of us, throwing money around is not an easy thing to do. Yes, I have my own sob story. No income, disposable or otherwise makes it really difficult to tip. (hopefully will be remedied soonish) It's embarrassing enough to be in a room and seeing fellow members tossing tips around and being unable to do so myself. But when a model is telling the room that she can't make rent because her regulars are not stepping up, that there is a problem. Like someone said earlier: Some members are there to interact with a real person. That is true for me, but just as in RL, I don't want to hang around a constant pressure of negativity. I want good friends, not bad ones. It's too bad some models don't realize the negativity may be a factor in their situation.

 

[Preslye]

Well I agree with what many of the others have said, I believe that some people really do enjoy seeing us as REAL people and some members we actually feel are friends to us. Thats why we feel comfortable being open about maybe some of our financial struggles. I have never said I need such and such tokens til rent or whatever but I have said 'insert token amount' til goal.

I also was in the hospital and unable to work for two week just recently, and it was AWFUL I was so stressed out and so scared I would not be able to pay my bills and wouldn't be able to work for who knows how long. I was to the point I was going to check out of the hospital AMA. But then I was getting asked where I was and such and so I told everyone on twitter the truth. I was in the hospital and very sick and then continued to update via twitter because I was unable to access MFC while in the hospital because the hospitals WIFI had the site blocked. So I kept everyone posted and even told people how much offline tips would help. I did video specials and such in order to try and save enough money for my rent.

I will say that the outpour of support was incredible not necessarily in tokens but actual good emotional support. I have several cam girls start posting my story and offering videos for anyone who sent me offline tips. Layla_Lux and AutumnLane were incredible support to me during this time. I even had one model offer to send me the money free and clear. I couldn't accept it though. I just thought to myself how incredible it was to have so many models reach out and post to try and help me. It was incredible, it wasn't a sap story and I wasn't trying to guilt people into tipping me. I actually didn't want pity. I won't lie a little sympathy for what I was going through was very appreciated because it was really tough and I know that at one time or another everyone has had a point in life where they felt helpless. I was lucky enough to be able to make rent. Then when I did get out of the hospital I took 1-2 days and then jumped back on the bandwagon (this was about a week ago now) and it's been hard because I am still in pain and still have a tough time. The emotional support that I received was amazing and so I even though I can understand why you post this. I sort of feel personally attacked. No I am not always posting sad stories in my topics or attempting to get pity. I just feel like I have good enough friends on MFC that know me well enough that I can be open to the things that are happening in my life. I was especially thankful that I had people that I could tell what I was going through.

So I understand feeling like it's annoying to have models constantly telling their financial issues. I think this is better directed at models that do it every time they are on cam. There is nothing fun about being in a room and having a model be nothing but grumpy and negative. Or the models who can be making obvious huge amounts of tokens yet are STILL complaining.

Honestly though I think the problem thats worse then models complaining about their financial hardships are the models who do a super high count down and then as they get 1000 tokens away from their goal they log off. That is more frustrating to me as a model and as a occasional tipper because I feel like damn she just got 5000 tokens and then didn't even tell us she had a time limit and then logged off as soon as we got close to actually doing the show. THAT is a real thing to be frustrated about. I know it happens every once in a while to every model but I think most of us try to let members know "hey I only have an hour left so let's get this done before I have to go". Ok I am done with my opinion and take on this.

 

[AmberCutie]

I think the long and short of this thread (and if it would have been stated a little less rudely) would be this:

While you are on cam, don't be afraid to mention your real life worries, but aim to never be a whiner about it (unless you're actually catering to the damsel in distress fetish). Setting goals for personal items or vacations can be fun so long as it's done in an interactive way, and so that people who contribute feel appreciated. There may still be the occasional passer-by who misunderstands the topic, but it won't effect you in the long run so long as you're going about it in the right way. Don't lose sight of the fact that many people who come to a cam site do like to escape reality and life's "woes" so keeping things up beat and fun and sexy for the most part is key.

 

[AutumnLane]

Few days ago, I heard a model with around 20000 camscore, almost every month in top 100 and very often in top 20 to tell her regulars, that she can't afford to go in London for the olympics, because plane tickets are very expencive. She got showered with thousands in minutes (like every day btw) and consoled about how hard her life is. I bet she drives a Benz and has at least 3 Chanel bags, while some of her members will probably pay the loan they took to tip her till the rest of their miserable life. I just hope there is karma.
:twocents-02cents:

To all of the people who have posted on this topic I must say first and foremost WE as MFC models ARE our OWN bosses. We Run our "business" in different ways, if you don't like it move on...it's that simple. This banter back and forth of how people should run their rooms and how they should act is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. NO ONE on here...MFC or regular sector would EVER want someone to tell them how to do their job. Regardless if they think it is effective, good business or bad. It is THEIR choice hence THEIR consequence.

Also, Adrianna...if this person is a so called friend of yours how do you think it makes you look when you are passive aggressively dragging her name through the mud? You gave specifics of who she was without actually saying her name but in all actuality it would not be that hard to figure out. If she is a friend of yours you SHOULD BE PRAISING HER SUCCESS not trying to drag it down with meaningless banter on a forum defacing her name. Imagine if the tables were turned a SO CALLED FRIEND did such a thing to you? Wouldn't you think this may affect your income or hurt you in some way? This is NEVER okay especially in this business or any to make up stories about someone in which you have NO proof of period other than "I know her personally".

If you don't agree with her practice than maybe you need to distance yourself from her and move on....just like any relationship and stop worrying about someone elses actions in which DO NOT affect you what so ever.

Just like anyone in the world...NO ONE has the right to tell anyone how they should spend their money. It's not their right or place. SO MOVE ON PEOPLE AND LET IT GO!

 

[mynameisbob84]

In Adrianna's defence, she said she KNOWS this girl, not that they are friends.

 

[LailaBaise]

:withstupid:

Just what I thought. Beat me to it. Huh.

 

[SoTxBob]

In Adrianna's defence, she said she KNOWS this girl, not that they are friends.

I dunno, when she was asked how she knew the details of said models bills and financial situation she indicated she personally knew her. I only know the details of my closest friends finances (if that even), so I guess the assumption was if she knew her so well to know what her bills/financial situation was, then they were possibly friends.

Assumptions = Ass-U-me .....

I know more than a few camgirls that once the subject is broached, they tend to go on with more than they should about the cost/expenses detail of things. I've even heard several, after they were asked why so free spoken, say "Why not? It's not like anyone is gonna come find me, my life is an open book. They are welcome to my bills anyway."

 

[AshaSnow]

What does bother me, is to take the same list (or very similar) and apply it to the members (some of them, anyway). I can't tip you because _______.

Yeah this! On the flipside models are also inundated by, "sob stories". Between starving students, pensioners on a fixed income, fellows struggling with unemployment, underemployment, health concerns, child support, divorce proceedings, custody and legal disputes, we get it spades as well. Although I'm not speaking on behalf of all models I would hazard a guess that many of us take the position of, "dude, seriously, I don't really give a fuck, as long as you're freeloading quietly we're good".

Don't forget the "I'm a soldier overseas, let me see your tits" That one pisses me off the most.

 

[SpookyGirl]

I think the long and short of this thread (and if it would have been stated a little less rudely) would be this:

While you are on cam, don't be afraid to mention your real life worries, but aim to never be a whiner about it (unless you're actually catering to the damsel in distress fetish). Setting goals for personal items or vacations can be fun so long as it's done in an interactive way, and so that people who contribute feel appreciated. There may still be the occasional passer-by who misunderstands the topic, but it won't effect you in the long run so long as you're going about it in the right way. Don't lose sight of the fact that many people who come to a cam site do like to escape reality and life's "woes" so keeping things up beat and fun and sexy for the most part is key.

THIS!

I've done a goal for personal reasons before. One day I set a goal to save up for a bulk buy of feeders for my reptiles. Feeders are super pricey and can take a chunk out of your wallet but bulk buying saves.

anyways. I flat out told my room attendants that it is NOT their responsibility to meet my goal, It is MY responsibility to meet my goal. In doing that I offered special deals and discounts for everyone.

Regulars tipped no more then usual (and I was extra thankful about it even if they didn't tip more then usual), but in the end they did like knowing that they helped keep my snakes fat.

I figure its about placing the knowledge about the situation and the responsibility in the appropriate places.

 

[AudreyAnna]

I guess what I find frustrating is that I often see top rated models complaining about not getting tips and calling people cheap and all that.
I also have members go on and on about THEIR financial situation ( and use that as an excuse for not tipping or wanting a free show)... all the while assuming that I'm made of thousands of dollars.

Honestly I have talked about some rough times - but it was never about finances. I talked about psycho ex boyfriends and having to move around a lot - I guess because I really needed to vent at the time.

I just hate how a lot of members assume that because I cam.. that must mean I'm rich or something. The reality is - I'm a low ranked model who is struggling because of many events in my life that nobody is aware of - nor do they need to be.

The tip of the iceberg though are the people who think that I should be doing everything for *free* because why else would I be on webcam..and that I'm crazy for wanting "payment to cum" (guy wanted a free skype show).. but that's a whole different rant lol.

Basically, all of us camgirls - whether top 20 or page 4 - are human...so we have bad days, emotional days, personal losses, etc. ... so ofcourse some days we will be upset..and sometimes just "not going on cam" is not an option (although there's a difference between being visibly upset and professional versus visibly upset and completely falling apart). Like many of you mentioned though, when it's a daily/weekly crisis...it tends to get a little old.


Cheers!

(P.S. I was m.i.a for a little while but now I'm back. Looking forward to being a part of this super-duper-awesome community that lovely Amber has created!)

 

[badgrlnxtdoor]

I don't care that you are in a custody battle with your ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc.

I don't care that you can't make your rent.

I don't care that you're 3 weeks behind in day care payments.

I don't care your car got repossessed.

I don't give a fuck about your problems.

Wipe the emotion from your eyes and handle business.

Skin for money, Honey, that's the business.

Customers give money to models thinking they are shrines to be worshiped until the regulars run out of money and get the cold shoulder.

Loyalty is only as good as the next paycheck. Applies to working stiffs as well as cam girls.

To an extent, I agree. I dont care too much for sob stories, everyone has their problems. BUT, not every model gives the "cold shoulder" to those who can no longer tip.

agreed. I hate sob stories but generally the ones giving the sob stories arent chicks id want to spend my time on anyway. And for the record, the ability to tip means very little to me. If someone adds to conversation, is a good time and is sweet..they are top on my list..regardless of token status. :twocents-02cents:

 

[tubby556]

Also, welcome back to the forum, tubby, you've made quite the dramatic re-entrance. As Frankie said, you don't sound like the beloved tubby we used to know.

Been bottled up for a few years, I had to vent somewhere. Sorry it had to be your forum and made everyone hate me. I'll go back to watching pregnant midget anal fisting porn.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Also, welcome back to the forum, tubby, you've made quite the dramatic re-entrance. As Frankie said, you don't sound like the beloved tubby we used to know.

Been bottled up for a few years, I had to vent somewhere. Sorry it had to be your forum and made everyone hate me. I'll go back to watching pregnant midget anal fisting porn.

I don't think I'd go so far as to say that anyone hates you. I think that the general consensus here is that we agree that models shouldn't actively whine on a daily basis to get whatever it is that they want because it can be unattractive.


Also, I guess I've done this now and had never before. I posted (jokingly, because I never expected to get it) that I needed 2200 tokens to pay my stupid ticket (that I had received the day before) and less than 30 seconds later someone tipped 2200 tokens to take care of it for me. I won't make this a daily or even a weekly thing, probably not even a monthly thing, but maybe in certain cases like this then it's just fine? I just don't know.

 

[SatanJonez]

Also, welcome back to the forum, tubby, you've made quite the dramatic re-entrance. As Frankie said, you don't sound like the beloved tubby we used to know.

Been bottled up for a few years, I had to vent somewhere. Sorry it had to be your forum and made everyone hate me. I'll go back to watching pregnant midget anal fisting porn.

There nothing wrong with venting or being jaded about cam girls/sites. There are scammers out there on both sides. I just think as a coming back post it was like "WOAH! Wait, what'd we do" (at least that is how I took it). Then again, there's been a lot of finger pointing and anger about easily fixable things in the last few months on here, so you kind of just walked into that.

 

[Jaydenrainey]

i felt the need to add something to this thread even though im late to it. i understand where the o.p is coming from, when you want to masturbate you don't particularly feel like being weighed down by some girls dying gramma needing meds, its probably not gonna change you mind one way or another on a show anyways especially if you don't know the girl very well.

at the same time i will say that i have had to turn to regulars before in times where i literally didn't know if i was gonna eat at all that week, or i would end up homeless if i didn't say something. Ive NEVER lied about it. every time i talked about it i needed money. i hate asking people for anything but if its that or be hungry or homeless i do it because i literally care about my friends ive made and they care about me and they want to help. You might say well if your doing that badly find another job. This is where you need to remember this job is a huge financial roller coaster. Especially if you work mfc. One week i might earn 200 a day and think "cool i can budget for 200 dollars a day" the next week i make barely 100 dollars the whole week. regulars leave, models get sick with no sick pay and tragedy happens. Ive had to work the next day after having a family member die and its kinda hard to be cheery when that happens.
so what im saying is even if you don't care, someone might and if that girl is in real danger and really needs help you cant hate on her for reaching out to everyone she can. Yeah she could just cam more and hope that masturbating all day makes her goal but go ahead try masturbating all day when you haven't eaten in three days or your best friend just died see how it works out for you and how turned on you get.
that was long sorry lol

 

[bob]

I know what you mean, but I guess I was trying to say was more along the lines of just because a model hits the top 100 frequently, it doesn't necessarily mean that they don't need the money. I just thought the "I just hope there is karma" statement was really rude. As camgirls, we shouldn't be condemning other camgirls that way. Maybe I'm way off-base here, but that's just my :twocents-02cents: .

(For the record, I'm nowhere near a top 100 model, so I'm not trying to be all preachy or butthurt here.)

and i understand what you're saying too.....but in reading the discussion of this one particular model, it just feels to me like we're bending over backwards here to give her specific story the benefit of the doubt....i appreciate that there is such a strong sense of honorable behavior among models and members alike, and that a story like hers is both defended and questioned.....but camming is a very laissez-faire business (which is as it should be, imo)

while there certainly maybe more to the story, all i can base my opinion on are the words she used...i personally could care less about whether or not they are true....the idea of supporting her in her quest to go to the olympics is absurd to me (tho i'll admit that if i actually KNEW this model the same way i know others at mfc, i might feel differently).....but in general....the idea of being a regular working guy and helping some attractive woman realize her seemingly extravagant fantasy is an aspect of illusion in camland that does not compute

fwiw, i don't even think karma plays a part in it
whether she was being up front with her hopes or spinning a yarn....she did it for one reason, and it worked.....she did it for her reasons, and the guys tipped for theirs......

i'm sure mark twain would has some quip about the stupidity of human nature that covers this story
:twocents-02cents: ......or maybe a nickle