How would you feel if a big tipper went bust?

[hornygods]

A peculiar, yet curious question came up in a little personal conversation I've had with SirCynical (a regular of PlayboyMegan). I'm just wonderin' - how would models feel if a big tipper went bust?

 

[AliceDoe]

Well, it would be disappointing, no doubt. Regular big tippers are awesome.

Though I don't think anyone would be angry, it's not like it's his fault and it's not like he just said "You know what, I'm not going to spend any more of my money on you". It would get a bit awkward if he was expecting to still get the same attention that he got when he was tipping a lot.

 

[LacieLaPlante]

it's happened a lot over my two years. It's not a huge deal, it's the cycle of MFC. You can't expect the same people to keep tipping you forever.

 

[Vanessa Jade]

If you're asking whether I would feel bad or like it's my fault? Probably not. These people are grown men and women (theoretically ) who are (theoretically) capable of handling their business.

If you're asking whether I'd feel personally affected, angry, or otherwise upset? Probably not. I try not to be reliant on people who tip big. In fact, the vast majority of my income on MFC comes from privates, rather than tips. The biggest tip I've ever gotten was maybe 200 tokens.

 

[LailaBaise]

it's happened a lot over my two years. It's not a huge deal, it's the cycle of MFC. You can't expect the same people to keep tipping you forever.

This. It happens.

 

[Bocefish]

I like busts. :mrgreen: Methinks OP needs to define bust better. :twocents-02cents:

 

[hornygods]

If you're asking whether I would feel bad or like it's my fault? Probably not. These people are grown men and women (theoretically ) who are (theoretically) capable of handling their business.

If you're asking whether I'd feel personally affected, angry, or otherwise upset? Probably not. I try not to be reliant on people who tip big. In fact, the vast majority of my income on MFC comes from privates, rather than tips. The biggest tip I've ever gotten was maybe 200 tokens.

I definitely need to clarify what I mean - I'm asking what the emotional response would be if a big tipper suddenly stopped tipping for a while. I'm definitely not asking whether it's your fault, or whether you should feel bad about it - it's never your fault that they choose to spend whatever money they spend.

For some, it's slight disappointment with a mutual understanding that even when big tippers can no longer afford to tip big for a while, they'd still remain cool with eachother. For others, they'd be slightly upset. Or, alternately, it could be deemed completely irrelevant because there's an understanding that the member still appreciates the model just the same, and the financial perks were just a plus; it was the interaction that really mattered.

I'd say for the most part, the first category I highlighted applies. It's interesting to read the responses though

@Bocefish: ._. to go bust = to no longer have access to funds.

 

[Jupiter551]

Well, it would be disappointing, no doubt. Regular big tippers are awesome.

Though I don't think anyone would be angry, it's not like it's his fault and it's not like he just said "You know what, I'm not going to spend any more of my money on you". It would get a bit awkward if he was expecting to still get the same attention that he got when he was tipping a lot.

Depends what you mean by attention - surely you don't want to give the impression that you only took notice of him because he tipped (rather than he was a) a nice person b) funny c)kept a good vibe in your room d) are appreciative of all his support in the past) etc.
If you're talking about sexual attention or something else strictly professional then sure.

 

[AliceDoe]

Well, it would be disappointing, no doubt. Regular big tippers are awesome.

Though I don't think anyone would be angry, it's not like it's his fault and it's not like he just said "You know what, I'm not going to spend any more of my money on you". It would get a bit awkward if he was expecting to still get the same attention that he got when he was tipping a lot.

Depends what you mean by attention - surely you don't want to give the impression that you only took notice of him because he tipped (rather than he was a) a nice person b) funny c)kept a good vibe in your room d) are appreciative of all his support in the past) etc.
If you're talking about sexual attention or something else strictly professional then sure.

Well, I was thinking more in the conversation area. While I am online, I am trying to make money, I am working. While I am more than happy to spend time conversing while things are slow or if I the person I am talking to is tipping, I would find it very annoying if a former big tipper that went broke was expecting me to keep up an active chat with him while I am trying to make some money. I wouldn't be rude, don't get me wrong, but I also wouldn't be able to give my undivided attention to someone that doesn't have tokens.

In my experience, some members have a better grasp of how this business works than others. Some will think that just because I am being nice, I am a push-over (or even worse, I trust them and want to see them and fell in love). Some will also think that having tipped in the past gives you some kind of right to me and means I have to do what is asked of me even if tipping is no longer an option (or that tipping will give them the right to treat me as if I am their possession and the only thing keeping me from moving in with them is that I can't afford the flight).

While others have a perfect understanding of the fact that this is my job and that I provide a service, that I need to protect my privacy and that giving me tokens buys this service and not me.

I hope you understand what I mean.

 

[Jupiter551]

Well, I was thinking more in the conversation area. While I am online, I am trying to make money, I am working. While I am more than happy to spend time conversing while things are slow or if I the person I am talking to is tipping, I would find it very annoying if a former big tipper that went broke was expecting me to keep up an active chat with him while I am trying to make some money. I wouldn't be rude, don't get me wrong, but I also wouldn't be able to give my undivided attention to someone that doesn't have tokens.

In my experience, some members have a better grasp of how this business works than others. Some will think that just because I am being nice, I am a push-over (or even worse, I trust them and want to see them and fell in love). Some will also think that having tipped in the past gives you some kind of right to me and means I have to do what is asked of me even if tipping is no longer an option (or that tipping will give them the right to treat me as if I am their possession and the only thing keeping me from moving in with them is that I can't afford the flight).

While others have a perfect understanding of the fact that this is my job and that I provide a service, that I need to protect my privacy and that giving me tokens buys this service and not me.

I hope you understand what I mean.

Yes, I think so. I don't really have those kinds of private conversations with camgirls (thinking they're a love interest or something), so my only source for that kinda stuff is on here lol.

 

[AliceDoe]

Well, I was thinking more in the conversation area. While I am online, I am trying to make money, I am working. While I am more than happy to spend time conversing while things are slow or if I the person I am talking to is tipping, I would find it very annoying if a former big tipper that went broke was expecting me to keep up an active chat with him while I am trying to make some money. I wouldn't be rude, don't get me wrong, but I also wouldn't be able to give my undivided attention to someone that doesn't have tokens.

In my experience, some members have a better grasp of how this business works than others. Some will think that just because I am being nice, I am a push-over (or even worse, I trust them and want to see them and fell in love). Some will also think that having tipped in the past gives you some kind of right to me and means I have to do what is asked of me even if tipping is no longer an option (or that tipping will give them the right to treat me as if I am their possession and the only thing keeping me from moving in with them is that I can't afford the flight).

While others have a perfect understanding of the fact that this is my job and that I provide a service, that I need to protect my privacy and that giving me tokens buys this service and not me.

I hope you understand what I mean.

Yes, I think so. I don't really have those kinds of private conversations with camgirls (thinking they're a love interest or something), so my only source for that kinda stuff is on here lol.

Well, it might just be me... I always have trouble with guys thinking that just because I'm nice to them I am romantically interested in them (or at least really really want to bang them). This one guy in Tel Aviv described it as a "sexual energy" that I give off (I am sure the fact that I was jumping around in my underwear in the hostel helped a bit too)...

Oh well, I don't know... It's annoying as hell though! I grew up in a tiny little town, more like a village, and I was just as much friends with the boys as with the girls so to me it's just natural that two people of the opposite sex can have a friendly conversation without it leading to anything more...

 

[Jupiter551]

Well, it might just be me... I always have trouble with guys thinking that just because I'm nice to them I am romantically interested in them (or at least really really want to bang them). This one guy in Tel Aviv described it as a "sexual energy" that I give off (I am sure the fact that I was jumping around in my underwear in the hostel helped a bit too)...

Oh well, I don't know... It's annoying as hell though! I grew up in a tiny little town, more like a village, and I was just as much friends with the boys as with the girls so to me it's just natural that two people of the opposite sex can have a friendly conversation without it leading to anything more...

I think there's a lot of guys on MFC who are looking for something that isn't there, and different camgirls handle them differently - you don't want to drive tippers away but also don't want to lead them on.

 

[Rose]

it's happened a lot over my two years. It's not a huge deal, it's the cycle of MFC. You can't expect the same people to keep tipping you forever.

I think this pretty much sums it up.

Though if they went broke of their own poor financial planning then that's their fault. It wouldn't be fair to me to feel guilty about it though.

 

[Vanessa Jade]

it's happened a lot over my two years. It's not a huge deal, it's the cycle of MFC. You can't expect the same people to keep tipping you forever.

I think this pretty much sums it up.

Though if they went broke of their own poor financial planning then that's their fault. It wouldn't be fair to me to feel guilty about it though.

I basically agree with both of these things

 

[Jupiter551]

it's happened a lot over my two years. It's not a huge deal, it's the cycle of MFC. You can't expect the same people to keep tipping you forever.

I think this pretty much sums it up.

Though if they went broke of their own poor financial planning then that's their fault. It wouldn't be fair to me to feel guilty about it though.

That's good because your march raffle sent me broke! Fortunately I now have the rest of my year's worth of porn :-D

 

[LadyLuna]

First, I would like to say- I definitely get the guys who think that just because I'm open about having been adopted out of foster care, that they're suddenly my best friend for knowing something I tell just about everyone.

Also, I've never had a big tipper, so I don't know how I would feel if one suddenly stopped showing up. However, if they stopped tipping but were still around, I probably wouldn't notice. Why? I'll notice if a person stops appearing, but I suck at associating a tip with the tipper. Meaning, I forget who gave me what. All the damn time. Bad memory.

I did have one big private guy, who suddenly disappeared... I kept switching between wondering what I did wrong and wondering if his wife caught him for about a month or two, but it didn't really affect my mood. Then I pretty much forgot about him except to send him an mfc mail when I got some things I thought he might like, and never heard back from him.

 

[Evvie]

Whenever I know I'm relying on one person to make my goals, I do get anxious. But that's even before they've gone bust xD

In my opinion a model is on dangerous ground if she needs any particular person to show up and tip to get her shows done.

If you're in the boat where a big chunk of your change is coming from one person, I can see a lot of negative emotions coming from them leaving.

But if you have more than a couple tipping regulars, of course it's sad to see a tipper stop contributing (especially if you have a relationship with them, because then instead of "I guess he's broke" it can turn in to "am I not doing a good enough job anymore?" or "do I not look good enough anymore?" kind of thing). I do not think though that for many models it is an earth-shattering event.

 

[Rose]

it's happened a lot over my two years. It's not a huge deal, it's the cycle of MFC. You can't expect the same people to keep tipping you forever.

I think this pretty much sums it up.

Though if they went broke of their own poor financial planning then that's their fault. It wouldn't be fair to me to feel guilty about it though.

That's good because your march raffle sent me broke! Fortunately I now have the rest of my year's worth of porn :-D

Lol good thing I don't feel guilty about giving you all those goodies then! Though I still owe you a free membership and a skype show but those are at your discretion.

Theoretically we're all responsible adults here and should know how to handle our own finances to the point we don't drive ourselves into the dirt tipping pretty ladies. :thumbleft:

 

[Anonymous]

A peculiar, yet curious question came up in a little personal conversation I've had with SirCynical (a regular of PlayboyMegan). I'm just wonderin' - how would models feel if a big tipper went bust?

I've already made it clear to my chatters that just because you have zero tokens doesn't mean you have to stay out of my room. I know that some guys are uncomfortable being in a room when they can't tip, but I really wish they didn't feel bad about it. As long as you're chatting with me without making requests/demands, you can chill in my room all night long. And "why I can't tip" explanations aren't necessary. Just PLEASE don't lurk my room all night...it's rude, creepy, and annoying.

I would never ignore a person just because they have zero tokens. Not only would that be mean and bad business, but it would be unrealistic to expect a person to be able to tip every freaking day. They have bills and expenses too.

 

[GemmaMarie]

it's happened a lot over my two years. It's not a huge deal, it's the cycle of MFC. You can't expect the same people to keep tipping you forever.

Ditto this.

 

[Jessi]

As long as they don't expect to take up the same amount of my personal attention, then whatever. Its not any of my business, and Id feel sorry that they were having hard times. If they still expected to be treated like a big tipper, or made demands of me for past tips then I'd be annoyed.

 

[AliceDoe]

As long as they don't expect to take up the same amount of my personal attention, then whatever. Its not any of my business, and Id feel sorry that they were having hard times. If they still expected to be treated like a big tipper, or made demands of me for past tips then I'd be annoyed.

Exactly what I meant by my much longer gibber gabber xD

People need to realise that they are "buying the milk, not the cow" xD :laughing-rolling:

 

[JickyJuly]

If someone is going bust on MFC it's likely they make poor financial decisions elsewhere as well. That said, if they were someone generous and likeable, I'd probably send them some cookies and a bottle of liquor (not out of pity or guilt just as a gesture of understanding). It's hard to properly handle money. I can commiserate. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Mork]

just a bit of anecdotal blahblah here...

I saw a model that was very anchored to her small band of 'crew' and got very nice tips every day from them. Nothing ground shaking or record worthy, but she had no problem making her 6500+ goal almost every day almost exclusively from them for the few hours (3-4) she is online. It took her over 10k cs in short time. Every time I saw her, her constant prodding of "can we get this topic finished" was like a bell to them. They would each toss a few hundred or more when she said something. The bad thing was that she counted on them and pretty much neglected the daily walkins if they didn't turn her head with a tip. She would say 'hi' if someone else spoke to her, but quickly continue on with her crew chat. Her crew has now dwindled to very few. one maybe for half an hour and another will drop by to chat after that and tips are now infrequent from them. She still has pretty full rooms when shes on, but her tips are now the same as most of the other 'normal' rooms of girls in the 1000-3500 cs range which is where shes heading.
I guess the point to all this is, she seems to have no clue what happened or why they have gone elsewhere. Shes still a sexy, beautiful girl with great conversational skills. Kind of sad and yet it puzzles me that she cant grasp that when there is a hole in someones pocket, over time it will become empty Or they will simply move on to the next "entertainer du jour". From what she says now, my guess also is that she got used to spending the gains and didn't bother to save anything. Reality of the job has hit and its a new beast to her and the rose colored glasses seem to have come off.
So many of the "adults" on here are not much more than early 20's and still learning about financial planning or managing cash flow. I guess the moral of this story, if there is one, would be... save as much as you can because you have no clue what tomorrow will bring.

 

[sweetiebatman]

If someone is going bust on MFC it's likely they make poor financial decisions elsewhere as well. That said, if they were someone generous and likeable, I'd probably send them some cookies and a bottle of liquor (not out of pity or guilt just as a gesture of understanding). It's hard to properly handle money. I can commiserate. :twocents-02cents:

I fraudlently claimed I was going bust would you expect the cookies back? :lol:

But I completely agree with the first part, If MFC has become more of a necessity than a pleasure, as a premium, you've screwed up somewhere

 

[Jupiter551]

I guess the moral of this story, if there is one, would be... save as much as you can because you have no clue what tomorrow will bring.

Yup just look at washed-up popstars who lived like princes then woke up one day broke.

 

[Nordling]

I guess the moral of this story, if there is one, would be... save as much as you can because you have no clue what tomorrow will bring.

Yup just look at washed-up popstars who lived like princes then woke up one day broke.

Worst case of this I've seen was a model who depended on ONE member to make her goals. A guy who spent enormous amounts every day...like $7k/mo. Then he got demanding and clingy...and she had to ban him...her cs halved within a week.

 

[Jupiter551]

I guess the moral of this story, if there is one, would be... save as much as you can because you have no clue what tomorrow will bring.

Yup just look at washed-up popstars who lived like princes then woke up one day broke.

Worst case of this I've seen was a model who depended on ONE member to make her goals. A guy who spent enormous amounts every day...like $7k/mo. Then he got demanding and clingy...and she had to ban him...her cs halved within a week.

Yeah you have to wonder if it isn't worth putting up with demanding and clingy for 7k a month lol

 

[hornygods]

It's only approx 4.5k tokens a day - that could be achieved just as easily with a normal chat room, provided that they were relatively successful to begin with.

I like to think of it the same way as those who choose to rely on a sugar daddy - they're not going to last forever, and it's not really worth it.

 

[Anonymous]

Yup just look at washed-up popstars who lived like princes then woke up one day broke.

I still remember when Left Eye of TLC (R.I.P.) was on MTV explaining to viewers how TLC had gone bankrupt.