He just might be one of the smartest/luckiest business men alive! Anyone have any ideas of how much it cost him to get MFC going???
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How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started?
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Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
I've heard that the website is worth about 1.9 Million... I'll see if I can find proof of that statistic.
I dunno how "lucky" he is. Lots of people have a problem with Leo. Lots of people dont like him, or something he's done. I think there is a reason he try's to not have his image out there, he doesn't want to have need for protection.
Also, server maintenance and cost is nothing to laugh off. For a site as big and as buggy as MFC, the man has a lot more to deal with than you might think. Luckiest man alive? Maybe not... a man who had one hell of an idea? Oh yeah for sure.
I've heard that the website is worth about 1.9 Million... I'll see if I can find proof of that statistic.
I dunno how "lucky" he is. Lots of people have a problem with Leo. Lots of people dont like him, or something he's done. I think there is a reason he try's to not have his image out there, he doesn't want to have need for protection.
Also, server maintenance and cost is nothing to laugh off. For a site as big and as buggy as MFC, the man has a lot more to deal with than you might think. Luckiest man alive? Maybe not... a man who had one hell of an idea? Oh yeah for sure.
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
Yeah I don't think people give enough credit to the hard work that goes on behind the scenes. People are always quick to curse and throw a paddy when it breaks but how would we feel if it didn't exist at all.
Yeah I don't think people give enough credit to the hard work that goes on behind the scenes. People are always quick to curse and throw a paddy when it breaks but how would we feel if it didn't exist at all.
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
What exactly would "throwing a paddy" look like? This intrigues me much.
What exactly would "throwing a paddy" look like? This intrigues me much.
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
I have heard its worth 2.2 million but that figure has to go up each day that goes by. I just wonder how much it cost him to actually get the site up and running?
I have heard its worth 2.2 million but that figure has to go up each day that goes by. I just wonder how much it cost him to actually get the site up and running?
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
something tells me you didn't grow up on a farm :lol:AmberCutie said:
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Oh... paddy = shit. So "throwing a shit-fit" = "throwing a paddy"?! Woohoo I like it.GreatDane said:
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Oh and i just about forgot to mention that i read some article a while back that Leo had been in trouble for fraud... I don't know the details of it or anything and i don't even know if it was accurate.Bushmaster said:
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
A quick search resulted in the following...
MFC is getting 1,165,254 pageviews per day and making USD 3497.76 daily. MFC has 428470 backlinks according to yahoo and is hosted in United States at Cortland Electronics Corp. data center. MFC is most popular in the UNITED STATES. Estimated worth of myfreecams.com is USD is 2.55 Million according to websiteoutlook.
Initial investment guestimate could be anywhere between 30-70K
A quick search resulted in the following...
MFC is getting 1,165,254 pageviews per day and making USD 3497.76 daily. MFC has 428470 backlinks according to yahoo and is hosted in United States at Cortland Electronics Corp. data center. MFC is most popular in the UNITED STATES. Estimated worth of myfreecams.com is USD is 2.55 Million according to websiteoutlook.
Initial investment guestimate could be anywhere between 30-70K
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
Thats interesting Bocefish thanks for the info!Bocefish said:
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
Those calculations are based on a generic calculation based on potential revenue obtained from pageviews and some standard amount of revenue based on potential advertising revenue. If a blog had that many pageviews and backlinks, they would come up with the same value, even if the blog offered nothing for sale. It's not really appropriate for evaluating a site like MFC, which has no advertising.
Those calculations are based on a generic calculation based on potential revenue obtained from pageviews and some standard amount of revenue based on potential advertising revenue. If a blog had that many pageviews and backlinks, they would come up with the same value, even if the blog offered nothing for sale. It's not really appropriate for evaluating a site like MFC, which has no advertising.
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
Sevrin is right. It is not very accurate.
Just out of curiosity... data gathered from 4 different "how much worth" services, MFC value varies from $1.6 Million to $14.9 Million. No way these numbers reflect the reality.
Sevrin is right. It is not very accurate.
Just out of curiosity... data gathered from 4 different "how much worth" services, MFC value varies from $1.6 Million to $14.9 Million. No way these numbers reflect the reality.
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
Ok - ballpark time.
Considering only income for the moment.
Let's say the top 20 models make 10 million (tokens) a month.
The top 20-120 make the same, and the rest another 10 million.
This is 30 million tokens a month.
Say net income per token after fees and model outgoing is 2 cents.
Or in round numbers, a million dollars a month income.
If a third of that is profit, then 300K/mo is probably not unreasonable, for a total of 4M or so per year income.
It would be not unreasonable to buy MFC on the basis of that income for around 20 million.
I suspect this is somewhat low in terms of turnover.
I have no idea how to price the infrastructure.
A quick spot-check.
As of now, there are 800 models on the non-asian site (all round numbers from here on).
The top 20 have 6700 pervs watching them.
The top 250 about another 7000, 250-500 maybe 2000, 500 down, perhaps 1500.
So - a total of 15000 is probably reasonable.
Maybe another 2000 on the asian site.
(these numbers are as of now - it will presumably be lots livlier at other times).
So say 17000 streams average at 500kbps - = 8 gigabits/second, or a gigabyte.
There are 2.6 million seconds in a month, or a transfer of 2.5Pb (2500 terabytes).
MyCamgirl said:
Ok - ballpark time.
Considering only income for the moment.
Let's say the top 20 models make 10 million (tokens) a month.
The top 20-120 make the same, and the rest another 10 million.
This is 30 million tokens a month.
Say net income per token after fees and model outgoing is 2 cents.
Or in round numbers, a million dollars a month income.
If a third of that is profit, then 300K/mo is probably not unreasonable, for a total of 4M or so per year income.
It would be not unreasonable to buy MFC on the basis of that income for around 20 million.
I suspect this is somewhat low in terms of turnover.
I have no idea how to price the infrastructure.
A quick spot-check.
As of now, there are 800 models on the non-asian site (all round numbers from here on).
The top 20 have 6700 pervs watching them.
The top 250 about another 7000, 250-500 maybe 2000, 500 down, perhaps 1500.
So - a total of 15000 is probably reasonable.
Maybe another 2000 on the asian site.
(these numbers are as of now - it will presumably be lots livlier at other times).
So say 17000 streams average at 500kbps - = 8 gigabits/second, or a gigabyte.
There are 2.6 million seconds in a month, or a transfer of 2.5Pb (2500 terabytes).
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
lol i think after all you can easily say that he makes a hell lot more then he invested...
but i guess that how all the inet companies work that have succes..
thinking of started a site of your own? or just curious?
lol i think after all you can easily say that he makes a hell lot more then he invested...
but i guess that how all the inet companies work that have succes..
thinking of started a site of your own? or just curious?
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
aaah ok
so am i always.. why i asked :lol:
aaah ok
so am i always.. why i asked :lol:
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
Quite a fair amount, How much is it worth at the moment ? not very much with the current sorry state it is in.
Quite a fair amount, How much is it worth at the moment ? not very much with the current sorry state it is in.
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Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
I'd be inclined to think that MFC makes a good amount of money on the float between tokens purchased and tokens used. Even if only a few hundred members keep $20 or $30 in tokens unspent in their account, Leo can leverage that cash as an investment or, more likely, garner favorable terms in his banking covenants or against commercial paper.
Also, the valuation of an adult-entertainment company like MFC would be more complicated than a mainstream company. Many, if not most, investment firms would be unwilling to underwrite a transaction involving a pr0n site. Investors would have less access to the market for cash which would make the transactional cost of the deal higher.
I'd be inclined to think that MFC makes a good amount of money on the float between tokens purchased and tokens used. Even if only a few hundred members keep $20 or $30 in tokens unspent in their account, Leo can leverage that cash as an investment or, more likely, garner favorable terms in his banking covenants or against commercial paper.
Also, the valuation of an adult-entertainment company like MFC would be more complicated than a mainstream company. Many, if not most, investment firms would be unwilling to underwrite a transaction involving a pr0n site. Investors would have less access to the market for cash which would make the transactional cost of the deal higher.
Re: How much $$$$ do u think Leo invested to get MFC started
MFC will never be another Facebook, in terms of valuation, and will likely never listed on a public exchange, but they would have no problem securing private financing. And I'm talking "True Private" here.
galactic6 said:
MFC will never be another Facebook, in terms of valuation, and will likely never listed on a public exchange, but they would have no problem securing private financing. And I'm talking "True Private" here.
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