Getting scammed at MFC..

[LolaMFC1]

WELL.. I'm beyond pissed right now. -__-

So I've only been at MFC for about 1 1/2 months. And I'm already getting scammed for my videos One of my MFC friends, just informed me how FOOTLOVER037 sent him a PM asking if he wanted to buy my videos. So apparently he got my videos from someone else (because as far as I can see, he never bought any videos from me, I have no chat log for him or any tip history) .. currently I send videos to your ( the customers) email, and they have a downloadable file. I was wondering if there is a possible way to avoid this? I was wondering about how some girls just send links to their videos? Some guys ask about those. I was thinking if imaybe it was a webpage with my videos & a password.. then it would be easier to control..? maybe not. Let me know guys.. I'm to the point where I just want to say FUCK it no videos :'(

 

[squirthard4u]

I am curious as well as to where we put our videos?

 

[gigolo_joe]

WELL.. I'm beyond pissed right now. -__-

So I've only been at MFC for about 1 1/2 months. And I'm already getting scammed for my videos One of my MFC friends, just informed me how FOOTLOVER037 sent him a PM asking if he wanted to buy my videos. So apparently he got my videos from someone else (because as far as I can see, he never bought any videos from me, I have no chat log for him or any tip history) .. currently I send videos to your ( the customers) email, and they have a downloadable file. I was wondering if there is a possible way to avoid this? I was wondering about how some girls just send links to their videos? Some guys ask about those. I was thinking if imaybe it was a webpage with my videos & a password.. then it would be easier to control..? maybe not. Let me know guys.. I'm to the point where I just want to say FUCK it no videos :'(

Some users change their username more often than they do their shorts so FOOTLOVER037 may have been "Any Username" when you sold him the video. I will defer the rest of the questions to someone more knowledgeable than me. However it would seem easier to get a free account on a file hosting website like Mediafire upload the file & password it. Then just give buyer the link & password. But really once you sell a video there is no way to prevent the buyer from reselling it.

 

[Shaun__]

WELL.. I'm beyond pissed right now. -__-

So I've only been at MFC for about 1 1/2 months. And I'm already getting scammed for my videos One of my MFC friends, just informed me how FOOTLOVER037 sent him a PM asking if he wanted to buy my videos. So apparently he got my videos from someone else (because as far as I can see, he never bought any videos from me, I have no chat log for him or any tip history) .. currently I send videos to your ( the customers) email, and they have a downloadable file. I was wondering if there is a possible way to avoid this? I was wondering about how some girls just send links to their videos? Some guys ask about those. I was thinking if imaybe it was a webpage with my videos & a password.. then it would be easier to control..? maybe not. Let me know guys.. I'm to the point where I just want to say FUCK it no videos :'(

Some users change their username more often than they do their shorts so FOOTLOVER037 may have been "Any Username" when you sold him the video. I will defer the rest of the questions to someone more knowledgeable than me. However it would seem easier to get a free account on a file hosting website like Mediafire upload the file & password it. Then just give buyer the link & password. But really once you sell a video there is no way to prevent the buyer from reselling it.

The username would have changed in her records if it was an account that had tipped her. Some members have more than one account though.

 

[MrRodry]

It is possible that this FOOTLOVER037 guy is actually trying to scam your regular? Sometimes at the Lounge you see premiums posting things like "If you want to trade/buy models videos send a PM".

 

[LindseyDoll]

I upload my videos to chaterbate.com. So far as I can tell guys just watch them on the site in a pop-up window instead of downloading them. It gives you a bit more control over them, only people who buy them can watch. There's also a fan club option that lets the guys pay a monthly fee to have all your videos available to them. :thumbleft:

 

[LolaMFC1]

Thanks guys. I'm definitely going to try that chaterbate thing.. damn these guys can be such scums sometimes! -__-

 

[Marokite]

Just know that even if it is posted as a stream, a person can save it to their computer and repost or sell it. Some browsers have this capability in them by default, while there are also add-ons that can add this capability.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

"non-downloadable" video streams are just a fairy story web site owners use to make you think that live or recorded streams are "safe".

With any one of several freely downloadable software, you can record MFC or any other live or "protected" stream. if it's on your monitor, you choose a frame area and press record.

In any one of a dozen + formats, bitrates, and video quality settings.

If the person in question is trying to buy videos, he's not much of a threat.... he's too stupid to use video cap software or use a search engine to find your videos for free.

I suggest if you upload a video to any sort of storage where a link is provided for download, you make the file name a nonsensical alphanumeric string. If it has your name in the file name or some variation of it, google will find it. If google doesn't then someone who has bought your video has no doubt shared the link on some forum or, reuploaded it to another storage site for file sharing.

You can do very little to prevent this sort of activity, so sell your videos, make some money, scramble your uploaded file names and just live with it. Make tube sites take them down when you find them.

In the end the more popular you become, the less you'll be able to keep ahead of the curve.

On the upside, there is such a saturation of porn online, your actual loss of income will be pretty low.

I wonder if there is a way to claim stolen or shared video like this as a write off loss on your taxes.....I imagine you'd have to prove it somehow.

 

[Weirdtimmy]

Some models post them up on various websites, and just give you the URL and password if you buy a video, but like Mr. Walnuts said, it's impossible to stop your videos from popping up around the web. Anyone can download Hypercam in 2 minutes and record whatever pops up on their screen and upload it to a website.

 

[Jupiter551]

Making it stream is still an easier way to control it - most people aren't going to make a copy of it, and if they do it's probably for themselves.

I've bought videos from girls that are hosted on sites that give time-limited urls (expires like a day later) but nothing can stop someone reuploading it - they're not gonna sell it from YOUR download link.

I wonder if MFC can ban people for selling/trading purchased videos? Probly not but would be nice.

 

[JoleneBrody]

There is also a very good chance that he's trying to scam a token transfer out of people and does not in fact even have them. I would report the name to MFC admin because videos or not what he's doing is ban worthy and then move on, unless you get a description of the video or a link to prove it. Stressing about it wont do anything good.

 

[Deleted member 4846]

For a little extra effort, here's what you could do:

Add each video to their own individual zip file, and add a password to that zip file (as someone said, make the filename totally unrelated to you or the video, and make the password a random string of characters containing upper-case and lower-case letters, numbers too if you like).

If you are still paranoid, send buyers the video link in one email, then the password in an MFC mail. That way, they do not have them both in the same place, to start off with anyway. A little effort is required on their part to get to watch the video, but if they are honest then I'm sure they will accept it. This also helps prevent the video being stolen if the person's email is hacked (all too common with online free email accounts).

Once a month change the password (add the video to a new zip file with a new password) and re-upload it, deleting the old one. Assume that anyone who purchased a video from you has already downloaded it by then, and if they complain that the password is wrong just check your records to see if they purchased that video (keep meticulous records!)

If someone does sell your video, they must download it and decrypt it first and not just pass on the link + password. It is by no means going to stop every instance of people selling on your videos, but it makes hotlinks to your videos break after a month.

 

[Jupiter551]

For a little extra effort, here's what you could do:

Add each video to their own individual zip file, and add a password to that zip file (as someone said, make the filename totally unrelated to you or the video, and make the password a random string of characters containing upper-case and lower-case letters, numbers too if you like).

If you are still paranoid, send buyers the video link in one email, then the password in an MFC mail. That way, they do not have them both in the same place, to start off with anyway. A little effort is required on their part to get to watch the video, but if they are honest then I'm sure they will accept it. This also helps prevent the video being stolen if the person's email is hacked (all too common with online free email accounts).

Once a month change the password (add the video to a new zip file with a new password) and re-upload it, deleting the old one. Assume that anyone who purchased a video from you has already downloaded it by then, and if they complain that the password is wrong just check your records to see if they purchased that video (keep meticulous records!)

If someone does sell your video, they must download it and decrypt it first and not just pass on the link + password. It is by no means going to stop every instance of people selling on your videos, but it makes hotlinks to your videos break after a month.

Couldn't they just unzip it and upload it to mediafire or whatever and sell that link?

 

[MrRodry]

But then, if this scammer really got your video and is trying to re-sell it to other premiums, all he/she had to do is upload the video and send that link. I am not sure if streaming is the safest way too, because people can easily screen capture the stream. For me, this Foot guy got nothing and is actually trying to scam your regular.

 

[Deleted member 4846]

Couldn't they just unzip it and upload it to mediafire or whatever and sell that link?

Of course they could, nobody could stop people from doing that. If the model was really that concerned about it then they could ask all of their regulars to keep an eye out for this kind of thing, and also do searches for their own videos themselves, but it's all about time and effort and diminishing returns. I have occasionally joined in the hunt (at the request of the model) for a model's videos that may have been spread without her consent, but came up with nothing; I have however come across screen captures of MFC models doing shows, but they were called something like 'Hot girl squirts', so searching by model name or 'mfc' is very unlikely to return results other than the model's MFC profile page.

Using a passworded zip file that changes regularly makes it just a bit harder for the videos to be pinched, passing on links and passwords is surely a lot easier than the perpetrator uploading to a fileshare website again and then sharing those links instead. We must also consider that links and passwords might be shared in forums, by changing the password on the genuine video it at least breaks these links or downloads.

I think the number of people who are dishonest enough to buy a model's video from a premium member, who were willing to pay the model for the video originally, is going to be negligible to the revenue loss that the model may incur from the actions of one premium. If they were not willing to buy the video from the model in the first place and somehow end up with the video by other means, the model has not lost anything in that instance (not that I am defending it, but one has to be pragmatic).

 

[Deleted member 4846]

Oh and mediafire seems to be a popular site for sharing videos, but watch out because it's actually against their terms and conditions to put anything porny on there. By using non-descriptive zip filenames and having the zip files encrypted (i.e. with a password), mediafire won't be able to look inside the zip file nor be able to tell what it is from the zip filename, so it is much less likely to be taken down by the site admins.