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Fake raffle.......caught you
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I doubt MFC would do anything about it, but word of scamming like that (especially by a top model, she's in the top 20 this month I think) spreads like wildfire among members and through the lounge.
now when i mentioned a white knight... i didnt know an actual one or wannabe one would show up.. :lol:
Sevrin said:
Not a matter of respect, but it does mean word can spread quickly - a lot of premiums pass through the lounge from day to day and all it takes is noticing someone calling so-and-so a scammer to make them think twice 2 hours later when they would consider buying a raffle ticket, or tipping.
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SinfulKnight said:
You know what I could absolutely be wrong. I can't say that she doesn't write down names after she gets offline. I don't however believe that fake writing a name (then REALLY writing when offline) is more efficient then actually doing it right than. Now the raffle in question was about 2-3 weeks ago. I also find it odd that I would be banned for stating something that was visible. Why ban me if you weren't guilty?
See I used to watch her often she is a cute girl and I was a big fan as I am of a LOT of the top models. What completely ruined her to me is what I witnessed. I just wish if you don't actually want to follow through with a raffle then just don't do it. It's shady. Now in the event that I am wrong and she IS IN fact writing these names when she goes offline & running a legitimate raffle then I retract my previous statement. I also extend an apology.
Bottom line is your only as good as your word, and if your word is cheap then so are you.
OK OK OK... let's calm down everyone because I realize now that there's a couple of holes that need to be filled in this story. A few questions, the first 2 for Preslye...
1- What was the raffle that you have called into question for exactly? Was it this date raffle that she's doing now or was the prize something else?
2- When you caught her doing this, was she watching what she was doing? Was she looking down at the raffle ticket as she did this? I ask that because if she saw that she wasn't writing it down, then there's intent to deceive which is just as wrong as actually deceiving people.
3- To SinfulKnight- was this friend of yours who got a runner-up prize a regular in her room or not?
4- (Just a general thought here) If she is writing down the tickets after her cam time, WHY??? Why waste everyone's time "writing" tickets when she could write the names in a notebook or on the tickets themselves? It just makes no damn sense. She's wasting the members time and her time.
Let's get these answered before we jump to any conclusions, please. Thanks in advance.
1- What was the raffle that you have called into question for exactly? Was it this date raffle that she's doing now or was the prize something else?
2- When you caught her doing this, was she watching what she was doing? Was she looking down at the raffle ticket as she did this? I ask that because if she saw that she wasn't writing it down, then there's intent to deceive which is just as wrong as actually deceiving people.
3- To SinfulKnight- was this friend of yours who got a runner-up prize a regular in her room or not?
4- (Just a general thought here) If she is writing down the tickets after her cam time, WHY??? Why waste everyone's time "writing" tickets when she could write the names in a notebook or on the tickets themselves? It just makes no damn sense. She's wasting the members time and her time.
Let's get these answered before we jump to any conclusions, please. Thanks in advance.
I don't think we need to drag this out any more with everyone asking what about this, what about that, but so and so saw this, blah, blah, blah. What's done is done and the bottom line is to be careful who you trust with raffles. We don't need to convene a judge and jury here. I 100% believe Preslye saw what she saw.
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Some of the things I have noticed with some of the raffles:
The winner is an account that has not been around long and strangely never comes back to the models room after winning.
The tips from the winner always tend to be hidden or offline tips.
There is no photo proof of the winner being there with the model after winning (of course some would want to stay anonymous)
If the model works for a studio I can pretty much guarantee the raffle is a fake.
It is too easy to fake these contests, whether you see the names written down or not. Eventually things like this and other scams the models try will be the downfall of MFC. When people become more informed about MFC and the models and MFC sees it affecting their bottom line, maybe something will be done. As long as they have a good enough influx of new users I doubt that MFC will ever do anything about scams that earn them money.
The winner is an account that has not been around long and strangely never comes back to the models room after winning.
The tips from the winner always tend to be hidden or offline tips.
There is no photo proof of the winner being there with the model after winning (of course some would want to stay anonymous)
If the model works for a studio I can pretty much guarantee the raffle is a fake.
It is too easy to fake these contests, whether you see the names written down or not. Eventually things like this and other scams the models try will be the downfall of MFC. When people become more informed about MFC and the models and MFC sees it affecting their bottom line, maybe something will be done. As long as they have a good enough influx of new users I doubt that MFC will ever do anything about scams that earn them money.
Let me play devil's advocate here...Just Me said:
1- Flashback to May 2010.... Amber did her auction for prizes that month plus another game to give away some gifts... every member that won a prize and gave her the info to send them their prize got their prize (and 2 of them won iPads for fuck sakes!). There was one or two who never gave her the info to send them their gifts so they didn't get it.
2- I've seen at least one model who I guess did a date raffle have pics of her and the guy together on her MFC profile posted by the winner.
So not every raffle or giveaway is a fake. But I would say that if a model is offering some sort of date raffle or giveaway raffle, try to know who the model is and how she operates. I mean, any of the models who post here regularly I would trust with such a raffle if I was interested in participating because I think they're being real on here (which I think is the least you can ask of anyone who posts here- just be real) and if they're posting here; then I know they understand how we, the viewers, think and they know that we're not gullible.
Conversely, I read something about 2 models doing date raffles where the winners would join the two of them someplace for a weekend. As part of the trip, each winner would get time to record separate videos of the 2 models having sex with the guy not getting involved at all and the guy being allowed to keep the video after the fact. Yeah, I highly doubt that actually happened.
So basically, buyer beware.
I have been watching her all week with the date raffle. 400 tkns "on sale" for 200. She never seems to write the ticket in view of the cam or shows it, but people tip like crazy for entries.
When asked it's been along these lines:
"Where will be sleep, bb?" "With me in the same hotel room. I wouldn't do that to you guys! I wouldn't put you in seprate room."
"Same bed?" "Yes, same bed."
"Do we get to fuck you if we win?" "No comment guys!"
I dont stay for long, her voice gets on my nerves. But she's been promoting this for a week at least. She seems pretty unfazed by the whole idea, so maybe it is a scam. I've never seen her "prove" a ticket, so I dont know about that.
When asked it's been along these lines:
"Where will be sleep, bb?" "With me in the same hotel room. I wouldn't do that to you guys! I wouldn't put you in seprate room."
"Same bed?" "Yes, same bed."
"Do we get to fuck you if we win?" "No comment guys!"
I dont stay for long, her voice gets on my nerves. But she's been promoting this for a week at least. She seems pretty unfazed by the whole idea, so maybe it is a scam. I've never seen her "prove" a ticket, so I dont know about that.
I was pretty sure that what she was saying was legit too, but I felt that we needed to clear up any doubts that anyone else might have had. From the times I've seen Sinful Fantasy... well, let's just say my instincts told me that something like this was possible.Bocefish said:
And based on Preslye's responses, there was definitely intent to deceive. Whether she is running a scam or not now is seemingly a moot point. As I like to say: Perception equals reality, even if it isn't the truth. She isn't writing the names on the tickets when she claims she is, so she has the perception of a scammer until she proves otherwise.
JerMajesty said:
NOT a White Knight mate not pure enough to be that. Just its not fair that all this negativity is going round and no one defending her. I'm certainly not a wannabe either
Preslye said:
I believe you saw what you saw I wasn't there and I don't know why you were banned. but as I said she can give out a lot of tickets and I have seen different names pulled out the raffle in question may be the date raffle currently going on as it has been running since the beginning of july
SinfulKnight said:
you're not a white knight but you're not a wannabe white knight either? what are you a white squire?
So hold on - you don't actually know the guy who won the last raffle even though you're a regular in the room right?
Oh but you know the runner-up? Congrats on knowing the guy whose name got picked out of a hat that DIDN'T get to go anywhere or meet her, that proves everything lol.
Runner up isn't a bad idea for a fake raffle though - you can pick some legitimate member to "win" and never have to deliver a prize...all you have to do is sell the premise that it's even remotely possible the "winner" would have bought a ticket to (presumably) have sex with this woman wherever and whenever he felt like it, anywhere on the planet, at her expense and for SOME reason not go through with it. Yeah, seems likely huh.
Jupiter551 said:
Well as the winner isn't going to get to have sex with her check her profile. It tells you she isn't an escort. Its just a date weekend. Plus you don't know we me I said I wasn't WHITE knight check your Arthurian legends. White knights are pure I'm definitely not. I do know the winner just not gonna mention his name on a forum. Is that ok by you
SinfulKnight said:
Not really, no. Not if you intend to defend her anyway.
Remind me which Arthurian legend talks specifically about "white knights", feel free to cite a source, unless you're worried one of the hundreds-of-years-dead authors wouldn't want to be named.
Now I'm curious to watch the drawing and see how she acts the scene.
Shame on her and shame on members that still think MFC is a dating/escorting site.
Shame on her and shame on members that still think MFC is a dating/escorting site.
SinfulKnight said:
Have you actually read Sir Gawain and the Green Knight? Cos I have, a version of it is sitting in the bookshelf behind me. Feel free to point out where Galahad features in it.
Oh, HE DOESN'T, because Gawain and the Green Knight precedes Sir Galahad's creation in literature by at least 200 years.
Now go find where Sir Galahad was a "white knight" and don't give me that he was pure, that doesn't equal white, not literally.
You're totally just making this shit up as you go.
Jupiter551 said:
I hope the irony that all "this shit is made up" isn't lost on you, given what you accuse him of whilst referencing things... Or are you just trollin for shits and giggles?
Ages ago I pointed out (as many others probably have) that the rules explicitly state that Tips are gifts and there's no recourse, nor refund, in the event you do not receive that which is "promised" if you pay via a Tip. At the same time, the site says everything should be conducted in tokens (only way being a tip).
It is a house of cards... I guess some deem the risk worth their reward should they win. More fool them.
Jupiter551 said:
Actually I own The book and how can an aussie tell me about MY countries legends as if I don't know what I'm talking about. A white knight like a white bride is pure as in never had sex. Galahad is mentioned in the story of the holy grail as being a pure knight a hero is a knight in shining armour don't tell me I don't know what i'm talking about i have the whole fucking series on my kindle
Zoomer said:
And of course you tip if you want to and as all tips for raffle tickets are counted towards the show as well what is the problem you get a show out of it anyway
SinfulKnight said:
Well seeing as how a large portion of Arthurian legend is from France with modern authors being from the USA often. There is no one country that can really lay claim to it as their legend. This fact is actually why Tolkien wrote LotR.
I'm referencing literature, not "legend".Zoomer said:
SinfulKnight said:
You own "the book"? Which book? Geoffrey of Monmouth's 12th century work? Pre-Norman Celtic and Welsh legend which (obviously) neither mentioned knights or shining armour at all? Chretien de Troyes (French if you hadn't noticed) later addition of Lancelot and the themes of the Holy Grail? The Vulgate Cycle (again French)? Sir Thomas Malory's 15th century retelling complete with armour that never existed in the times of the earlier works? Alfred Lord Tenyson's romantic period revival?
This is the series you own on your kindle? They're not exactly light reading - I know because I studied middle-English literature at university.
I asked for a simple, reputable source (any of the above will do, though in half of them Galahad hadn't been created yet) where it states that Sir Galahad is a "white knight".
Instead you spout your assumption that white means pure, pure means never having sex, and therefore he wears shining armour (wouldn't that make it silver?).
Actually, not that it even matters but I grew up in Surrey. So you're Welsh I take it? Or French? Both of those cultures have more to do with Arthurian legend than the English.
k thx.
Obviously, SinfulKnight is a citizen of the Isle of Avalon, probably grew up in south central Camelot.Keithy said:
Obviously, SinfulKnight is a citizen of the Isle of Avalon, probably grew up in south central Camelot.[/quote]
Avalon is in cornwall / someret I grew up in Yorkshire. but you can think what you like its a bit of a crap argument just like myths and stuff
Avalon is in cornwall / someret I grew up in Yorkshire. but you can think what you like its a bit of a crap argument just like myths and stuff
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