SoTxBob said:
It's sad that they didnt realize up front that the ban laws would only effect the law abiding citizens. IMO, the major diff here is that no matter the laws, firearms are so ingrained in this country and heritage that not many would actually turn them in unless they needed the cash from a buyback. Take into account the volume of guns sold and traded before paperwork was required for every sale and you have staggering numbers of untraceable weaponry the govt will never get. whats the term.. ....oh yeah..... 'civil disobedience.'
Which is the problem with any and all "gun buyback" style laws intended to get the guns off the street. ONLY the law abiding citizens, who wish to retain their law abiding status, will turn them in. NOT the criminals. Therefore, the very people the laws are trying to protect end up being the very people the laws hurt. Because criminals already don't care about the laws they break, so breaking a new one isn't going to be a big deal to them. And now the people who turned in their guns are defenseless if they are to be attacked in their homes.
So, these laws end up making new 'criminals' of the otherwise law abiding citizens who refuse to give up their guns.
So, the saying holds true, anyway. When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. Even if these new 'outlaws' otherwise are normal, law abiding citizens who simply refuse to give up their guns. The outlaws who already had guns, and use(d) them in crimes, will still be outlaws and still have their guns, because there is no way in fuck they are going to go and turn them in because the government said to.
This isn't to say the intentions of the ban all guns movement people are bad. Just misguided, in an ever rose tinted glasses world where when guns are banned, even the criminals will give them up. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, after all. They firmly believe that removing the law abiding guns will somehow remove the illegal guns, too. Which it won't. Ever. Instead, it just gives the criminals with guns an even easier target on the law abiding citizenry of the countries.
You never hear of the guy walking around Texas, or Arizona (two states I know with open carry laws) with his gun on his hip getting mugged. The mugger doesn't want to have to deal with the potential of getting shot, himself. Instead he'll look for the unarmed target, and mug that person, instead.
The same will happen with home invasions. In houses known to not hold any guns, home invasions are not only more likely, but more successful. In neighborhoods where it is known that home invaders have been shot (and face it, it gets on the news, so even the criminals will know the neighborhoods)? Home invasions decrease, radically. If one family in a neighborhood owns a gun, then there is a chance more homes in that same neighborhood will, too. Home invaders are like muggers, they don't want to invade homes where there is a likelihood of them getting injured, or killed. They go after easy targets. Often attacking the same homes time and again. It's one of the reasons the elderly are often targeted for home invasions, they are less likely to be able to defend themselves.