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President Donald Trump?

  • As the Mafia would say, it's in the bag.

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • We don't have time for polls. Elect him now!

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • I've never heard of this man. What's his username?

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • If he offers a sizeable tip, I may entertain his ideas.

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • It's never gonna happen. I only vote Bush or Clinton.

    Votes: 5 21.7%
  • He's politically incorrect. Like me wit spelling and I likes that.

    Votes: 6 26.1%

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My guess is he will be out before the Republican National Convention a year from now.

This guy needs some kind of deadpool for a political career. Not that he's a politician. :/
 
I think he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being Americas next president. The moron pretty much dug himself a hole with the latino community and they're the majority of America now....so yeah he's screwed. Also he's just plain ignorant and doesn't possess the experience to be a president that respects other beliefs and ideas. Hell to the motherfucking NO will he be president..lol
 
Sadly, many where I am think he's the best guy for the job. Any time I go seemingly anywhere be it to the store, someone's house, or just strolling along to get the mail...somehow I wind up hearing/reading about him being great for America. :facepalm:
 
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/15/the-10-most-important-reasons-trump-would-make-a-great-president/

Here, then, are at least 10 reasons Trump would make a stellar president.

  1. Trump believes in American exceptionalism.
  2. Trump is tough, unafraid to flex America’s muscles, and has the backbone America needs to take on the evil growing around the world.
  3. Trump is an experienced and tough dealmaker.
  4. Trump is not politically correct; he’s not afraid to say what he believes and has ignited an honest debate.
  5. Trump demands high performance and will fire anyone that doesn’t meet his high standards.
  6. Trump is committed to education.
  7. Trump “built that business” and many more and will run America like a business.
  8. Trump will not balance his job as President with golf and other social events.
  9. Trump’s loyalty will be only to America and Americans—not any political party, special interest group or foreign entity.
  10. Trump will support American laws, the Constitution, and the nation’s borders.
Trump gets it.

Trumps understands the level of concern American’s have with the current direction of the country. America doesn’t just want change. American wants Oblimination – the complete reversal of President Obama’s failed policies.
 
Donald Trump is what we in England, (well mainly me) would call an absolute cockwomble and his absolute car crash of a run is the only thing slightly more amusing than people who think he'd be a good candidate to be the leader of the Free World.

I bet the guy couldn't even point to China on a map

The sad thing is this car crash candidacy is taking away from any kind of o find someone sutable to challenge for the Whitehouse. He'll run all the way but there is no way he will win the nomination
 
Elections in the US are a reality program, with a set agenda being paid for, nothing real is in the media about politics. Trump being totally unelectable is promoted to silence any real candidates and so that down the road Bush can look good by comparison.
 
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/15/the-10-most-important-reasons-trump-would-make-a-great-president/

Here, then, are at least 10 reasons Trump would make a stellar president.

  1. Trump believes in American exceptionalism.
  2. Trump is tough, unafraid to flex America’s muscles, and has the backbone America needs to take on the evil growing around the world.
  3. Trump is an experienced and tough dealmaker.
  4. Trump is not politically correct; he’s not afraid to say what he believes and has ignited an honest debate.
  5. Trump demands high performance and will fire anyone that doesn’t meet his high standards.
  6. Trump is committed to education.
  7. Trump “built that business” and many more and will run America like a business.
  8. Trump will not balance his job as President with golf and other social events.
  9. Trump’s loyalty will be only to America and Americans—not any political party, special interest group or foreign entity.
  10. Trump will support American laws, the Constitution, and the nation’s borders.
Trump gets it.

Trumps understands the level of concern American’s have with the current direction of the country. America doesn’t just want change. American wants Oblimination – the complete reversal of President Obama’s failed policies.

1: America is exceptional in 3 ways only: the number of people in jail per 100,000 residents, it's defense budget and the number of people who believe in angels. It lost a lot of edges due to choices made in the past, like, say, the ridiculous tuition fees for university or letting big corporations prevail over welfare of the people.
2: Trump himself is arguably chaotic evil himself. Calling something different 'evil' doesn't make it evil. The biggest evils are his fellow CEO cronies. Also, in the past, America only gets involved in world politics when there is something to gain.. like oil, or defense contracts. I am not going to see America policing in Mali, for instance, or in the Ukraine.. even Trump will not go head to head directly with Putin (probably the only other big evil around)
3: The problem with his 'deals' is that he is the only one benefiting from them.
4: Just because people believe things does not make them true. Belief says nothing about reality
5: Firing people when they do not meet a certain standard is very hard unless specifically stated in a labour contract that an employer can do this.. even then, it may not be legal. His 'You're fired' is more suited for TV shows but has little base in reality.
6: Good, let him make education free for all then.
7: That may be the most wrong thing you can do to a country: run it like a business.
8: But he has to. He will have to travel the world and 'gasp' shake hands with people (he's a germophobe )
9: A US president is the 'leader of the free world'... this can only go so wrong
10: He will support laws when it suits him. You don't get to be mega rich by being lawful or by hard work.. You get there by being an asshole usually. Breaking laws where you can and suing everyone who dares to cry 'injustice'.
 
Oh wow... I said the same thing the other night while watching the debate. ;)
I've switched from thinking he is awful for the Republican party to now thinking., he is so bad that he makes even the nutter Republican candidate look sane, and he makes most of their candidate look good.
As long as moderators and his opponents continue point out that he isn't really a Republican I'm fine with him sticking around. I predict he'll drop out shortly after the NH primary, when despite doing well in the polls he comes in 3rd or 4th place. My guess is that when it actually comes time to vote that a lot of his "supporters" won't bother to show up to vote. The Donald hates losers and that's what he'll be shown to be.
 
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He kind of fucked himself over with the GOP by insulting some Fox news lady and making a period joke at the same time. Basically two things the GOP hates.
 
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5: Firing people when they do not meet a certain standard is very hard unless specifically stated in a labour contract that an employer can do this.. even then, it may not be legal. His 'You're fired' is more suited for TV shows but has little base in reality.

Most companies I know of in America are 'at will employment.' Which means they can fire any time for any reason, or no reason whatsoever; and with no warning. Perfectly legal and it's done all the time.
 
The reason I love Trump is his stance on immigration. The reason I dislike him is he reeks of populism and cult of personality. Would I vote for Trump on the primaries? I love Ben Carson and if I could vote he would have mine. Would I vote for Trump in the presidential election if he was the Republican candidate? Over Clinton and Sanders? In a heartbeat.

Here is what CNN and the progressive media doesn't get: latino citizens love Trump. Most of us fled our countries of origin because of crime or communism and we sure as hell do not want America to become the hellholes we escaped. I sure as hell want a giant wall in the Mexican border and the toughest stance on illegal immigration from South America and the Middle East. I want America and its culture preserved and celebrated because it is what makes this country free and prosperous. If I didn't think a good portion of latinamericans were criminals I would be still living in Venezuela and not here. Many latinamericans in the US feel the same way.
 
I'm scared that so many republicans are actually considering him as a candidate. To me, he is like the porn star that ran for it some years ago as a publicity stunt: a joke.
 
The reason I love Trump is his stance on immigration. The reason I dislike him is he reeks of populism and cult of personality. Would I vote for Trump on the primaries? I love Ben Carson and if I could vote he would have mine. Would I vote for Trump in the presidential election if he was the Republican candidate? Over Clinton and Sanders? In a heartbeat.

Here is what CNN and the progressive media doesn't get: latino citizens love Trump. Most of us fled our countries of origin because of crime or communism and we sure as hell do not want America to become the hellholes we escaped. I sure as hell want a giant wall in the Mexican border and the toughest stance on illegal immigration from South America and the Middle East. I want America and its culture preserved and celebrated because it is what makes this country free and prosperous. If I didn't think a good portion of latinamericans were criminals I would be still living in Venezuela and not here. Many latinamericans in the US feel the same way.

Playing devil's advocate here, but is this not a shade hypocritical? Is it not kinda like saying "I/my people fled our country to build a better life in America. Now that we're here though, we want to make it so that nobody else from our country can do the same"?
 
Playing devil's advocate here, but is this not a shade hypocritical? Is it not kinda like saying "I/my people fled our country to build a better life in America. Now that we're here though, we want to make it so that nobody else from our country can do the same"?

It might be totally shocking, but not all latinamericans are the same. Some latinamericans are upstanding citizens, they go to the embassy, apply for visas, permits, etc, and come here legally. The people who cross the border with a coyote illegally don't tend to be upstanding citizens. They are not usually architects, surgeons, or high school teachers. Most of the time they are criminals, the people who make our countries shit holes, the same people we escaped from. So, it is quite natural that I as well as any other person who comes from south America into the States legally wants secure borders.
 
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because it is what makes this country free and prosperous

What made this country free and prosperous to begin with was....immigrants. Our culture is one of...immigrants blended together. How do people never see that? Unless you are native american your family at one time or another were immigrants and it's ignorant to me to think it was cool for your family to get in but then wanna keep others out. It's so hypocritical and backwards. Also thinking a criminal is gonna be stopped cause of immigration laws is ridiculous. Criminals dont follow laws, so the only thing immigration laws do is stop good people who follow them from being able to come here or become a citizen. Again to me that is ass backwards thinking that laws are gonna help anything. Ugh.

On Trump he is joke to say the least. As a president you have to be diplomatic, respectful of all others and their cultures, and yes PC. None of those things he can do, will do, or wants to do. He's incapable of keeping his mouth shut and if he thinks he is gonna strong arm the rest of the world he is in for a rude awakening. It doesnt work that way. Can you imagine him calling another countries woman leader a pig, or retweeting someone calling her a bimbo? What the world would do or think of us for having a leader doing such? If enough people dont hate us already Trump would change all of that for his disrespectful childish behavior. I know we need someone strong but there is a difference between strong and ignorant, and Trump is ignorant as fuck.
 
It might be totally shocking, but not all latinamericans are the same. Some latinamericans are upstanding citizens, they go to the embassy, apply for visas, permits, etc, and come here legally. The people who cross the border with a coyote illegally don't tend to be upstanding citizens. They are not usually architects, surgeons, or high school teachers. Most of the time they are criminals, the people who make our countries shit holes, the same people we escaped from. So, it is quite natural that I as well as any other person who comes from south America into the States legally wants secure borders.

I'm not sure why it would be shocking to think that not all Latin Americans are the same. I do think it would be reductive and just plain wrong to assume that all legal immigrants are "good" and it's only the "bad" immigrants who resort to illegal channels to escape those "shit holes" you speak of. Immigration is a problem no matter which way you look at it and there are no easy answers, but this idea that any immigrant who wants the best for them/their family but isn't fortunate enough to be one of the few who find easy, legal passage in to America is "usually a criminal" strikes me as pretty wrong-headed.
 
On Trump he is joke to say the least. As a president you have to be diplomatic, respectful of all others and their cultures, and yes PC. None of those things he can do, will do, or wants to do. He's incapable of keeping his mouth shut and if he thinks he is gonna strong arm the rest of the world he is in for a rude awakening. It doesnt work that way. Can you imagine him calling another countries woman leader a pig, or retweeting someone calling her a bimbo? What the world would do or think of us for having a leader doing such? If enough people dont hate us already Trump would change all of that for his disrespectful childish behavior. I know we need someone strong but there is a difference between strong and ignorant, and Trump is ignorant as fuck.
I can't imagine other countries taking us seriously (if they ever did I the first place) if this guy ends up on presidency. It's gonna be ugly.
 
I'm not sure why it would be shocking to think that not all Latin Americans are the same. I do think it would be reductive and just plain wrong to assume that all legal immigrants are "good" and it's only the "bad" immigrants who resort to illegal channels to escape those "shit holes" you speak of. Immigration is a problem no matter which way you look at it and there are no easy answers, but this idea that any immigrant who wants the best for them/their family but isn't fortunate enough to be one of the few who find easy, legal passage in to America is "usually a criminal" strikes me as pretty wrong-headed.

And that's Bob not saying 'yo' or making a joke in that post. I'm still a little bit in shock here. :wideyed:
 
What made this country free and prosperous to begin with was....immigrants. Our culture is one of...immigrants blended together. How do people never see that? Unless you are native american your family at one time or another were immigrants and it's ignorant to me to think it was cool for your family to get in but then wanna keep others out. It's so hypocritical and backwards. Also thinking a criminal is gonna be stopped cause of immigration laws is ridiculous. Criminals dont follow laws, so the only thing immigration laws do is stop good people who follow them from being able to come here or become a citizen. Again to me that is ass backwards thinking that laws are gonna help anything. Ugh.

It might be hard to grasp for an American who has lived his entire life in America, in a safe environment, but there are places in the world that are nothing like this. Perhaps my perspective is more rich considering I have lived in Europe, South America, and the US. I lived 14 years in Venezuela. I have friends and acquaintances who were murdered. I personally know at least 30 different people who were kidnapped. Crime in Caracas is like nothing you have ever seen. It takes a state of lawlessness for this to happen, but it is also a matter of culture and values. I saw Venezuela degrade. Venezuela didn't have crime like that 3 generations ago. But we opened our borders to Colombia completely, Colombians who were fleeing from guerrilla and militias moved to our country and brought their culture of violence with them. 3 generations later Venezuela is the murder capital of the world.

Evidently not every Venezuelan is a kidnapper, a criminal, or a murderer. But I can safely say that the number of venezuelans who are is quite high. So it is natural that someone like me, who came into the US legally would want the US to administer background checks and all other safety measures they can think of before accepting venezuelan citizens into this country and only accept the very best. With those who do not pass the background checks etc? Keep them OUT. Obviously criminals do not follow the law and will try to get in regardless, this is why you need a wall. This is why you need to take this issue seriously. Believe it or not it is possible to dissuade someone from doing an illegal thing. It is what laws are for. From your point of view why do we enforce laws against murder? If criminals don't follow the law and people will murder anyway, why don't we just give up and let them do it freely? It makes no sense. Of course we need laws and we need to enforce them. Rule of law is what makes our liberties possible.

The only thing "backward" (seems you really like that word) is believing that in order to be "good" you have to open your borders to every criminal in the world. If you don't want America to turn into a shithole, you better filter who comes in and who doesn't. You better pay attention to the culture your immigrants bring into your country. Don't take your country for granted.

I'm not sure why it would be shocking to think that not all Latin Americans are the same. I do think it would be reductive and just plain wrong to assume that all legal immigrants are "good" and it's only the "bad" immigrants who resort to illegal channels to escape those "shit holes" you speak of. Immigration is a problem no matter which way you look at it and there are no easy answers, but this idea that any immigrant who wants the best for them/their family but isn't fortunate enough to be one of the few who find easy, legal passage in to America is "usually a criminal" strikes me as pretty wrong-headed.


I said it was "shocking" because you said that just because I lived a long time in SA, it was hypocritical of me to not want every latinamerican person into the US. So you basically assume that just because I lived in the same country as, say, El Chacal, I should want him in the US. Not everyone in SA is the same. And of course I think legal immigration is also problematic, you need to reform it so only the very best people are allowed in. America has no obligation to accept anyone in.
 
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As US citizen I'm finding it impossible to gain legal residency in Europe. I'm basically just this side of living/working illegally. Am I a bad person because I wanted to live in a different country?

My English boyfriend thought Trump was legitimately running as a joke. He mumbled something to the effect of, "He's no Lord Sugar..."
 
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You do not know my history or my families or anyone elses here, or our experiences in life so dont assume we dont know things just cause you lived in a bad place. I can perfectly grasp things thank you very much. I stand by what I said. And if you think a wall will work that is nuts. I dont know where the hell you were going with the rest of your post so i'm just gonna ignore it rather than waste my time anymore since you obviously just love to argue, be volatile, and attempt condensation for the sake of such.


"New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" "
 
Even crime has reasons for it's existance.. take the reasons away and crime will diminish.

Heck if I were a criminal, I'd vote conservative.. good for business. Low wages so more desperate people to recruit from, low taxes, guns to be had everywhere.. a true criminal's paradise...
 
Statistically cities with large immigrant (even illegal immigrants) are safer than cities with smaller immigrant populations. A classic example is El Paso, Tx. despite being just across the Rio Grande from Juarez, which is a very very dangerous city, and having a huge Hispanic population (both legal and illegal) is consistently ranked as one of the safest large cities in the country.
I think the reason for the higher crime rates in Mexico, Central and Latin America are almost entirely explained by the Narco trafficers, the corrupt, and in the specific case of Venezuela incompetent government.
Sure Latin American men have a reputation for being hot blooded but saying they are mostly criminal is a huge stretch.

The country was almost 100 year old before we passed our first immigration laws 1875, and there was no restriction on immigration from Mexico, Central and South America until 1954. The percentage of immigrants (11%) is smack in the middle of our historical averages. The screening process we use to keep criminals out while still flawed is vastly better than anything we've used in the past. Essentially all we use to do was ask are you a criminal. Much of the fence is already built and illegal immigration into the US has already dropped, thanks to the great recession. But a fence ain't a magic cure all, preventing employer from hiring illegal workers is the better solution. We need a system that tracks expired visas. But even that isn't fool proof, we have plenty of camgirl who cam illegal in another country. I don't think either Canada or America are going to fall apart cause some Canadian girl gets naked in Vegas or an American girl does the same in Niagara Falls. Illegal immigration is a problem in this country but not something that can be solved with sound bite solutions.

Fundamentally I reject the idea that stopping immigration is a good thing. I look at a country like Japan which makes it really hard to immigrate or Italy which isn't much better and I see dying aging countries, they don't have enough babies to take care of their parents and grandparents. I know I benefited directly from the crazy hard work and genius of an immigrant and while he came here legally, he cut more than few corners to get here. Trump is dead wrong when he says that we aren't getting the best. It takes courage to move to new country, learn a new culture and generally a new language. The timid, they stay home. It takes hard work. It doesn't matter if you work hard to save up money to higher an immigration lawyer or a coyote, saving money in country with low wages is hard, period. The lazy only dream of coming to America, the hard workers they do it. Finally, it take brains. The stupid they get ripped off, get killed,and just fail to make across the border. I want the Elon Musk of the world to come here because America is country that welcomes and celebrates immigrants.

Oh and SuperMila here is the actual quote of the Statue Liberty
Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

HeHe I see Teagan beat me to posting it.
 
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Here is what CNN and the progressive media doesn't get:
CNN is not progressive media.
I think Trump will run an independent campaign if he doesn't get the G.O.P. nomination.
All I see Trump doing, if elected, is having the government file for bankruptcy and putting the name "TRUMP" in giant letters on the front of the White House.
 
I kind of agree with Rand Paul that Trump might be a plant to help get another Democrat in office. But that's just pure speculation.
 
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