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ATTN: CenterfoldCams.com is currently looking for Cam Models to Beta Test our new cam script.

We would like to test the overall performance of the site with your input that will include:
1) Models ability to broadcast 2 camera's simultaneously.
2) Test models ability to set pricing for own room. Initial pay percentage defaulted at 75%.
3) Ban/kick feature, default setting is members permanent ban after 5th offense. Not in any single room but 5 total site wide.
4) Test the ability to word filter the most repugnant words in the chat text....list to be eastablished by models. Member will be auto banned after preset attempt at using the filtered language.
5) Test models ability to upload pre-recorded video for Pay Per View so they can earn even off line.
6) Members will not fill in a arbitrary tip amounts, they will purchase pre-defined 'gifts' for the models. These tip amounts will be established by model input.

Your Compensation for this test period will be: By order of registration ID will the model be listed on home page for 1 year. All models will be listed as such. There is a star rating system in place, but ID number will still prevail for homepage placement. We are initially placing a 100 model cap site wide. We really do only want the best. Lower competition equals better pay. You can perform this testing fully clothed as there is currently not a payment gateway in place until after testing.

Most of the best features have already been outlined. Since each model has the ability to set their own pricing we would also like the models to do their own self policing of rule violations. There will be fines/bans issued and levied for violations. The site will be monitored 24/7 by stealth admins with access to any room nude or private. Screenshots will be created when presented with any/all rule violations. If a permanent model ban is invoked, model will forfeit all chip counts. A Zero tolerance to rule violations will be in place.

There will be no 'free' chat on this site, unregistered visitors will be only allowed 2 minutes in chat room, registered but inability to pay will have another 2 additional minutes and registered with low chip counts will have an additional 2 minutes. Models will only have to tolerate 'guests' for 2 minutes and 'basics' for 4 minutes. NO FREELOADERS ALLOWED

There will be NO LOUNGE area for model pimping and/or spam.
Members chip counts and private minutes count will be available to all models. For clarification in broader terms, NO FREE CHAT, the NUDE CHAT ROOM = 'Group' and Private = 'Private' So both rooms will be occupied by paying members.

Future improvements are to include the models 'wish lists' to be displayed on chat screen page instead of profile thus giving members easier access.

Initially we would like to recruit established models with a fan base as we know it is all about traffic but all are welcome. These initial models willing to step up and take a chance to help with site success will be rewarded above and beyond chip counts in bonuses and other perks.

Interested models can contact us at http://centerfoldcams.com/contact

Thank You Ladies
Scott Stevens
CenterfoldCams.com
 
this site is directly tied to Myfreecams.com seeing as how both the members and the models here use that site. Did you ask Amber if you could advertise here?
 
jebbaz said:
this site is directly tied to Myfreecams.com seeing as how both the members and the models here use that site.

FALSE: this site is directly connected to AmberCutie. There are models from other sites using this forum.

jebbaz said:
Did you ask Amber if you could advertise here?

This still applies though. Quick pm to Amber should resolve this :)
 
I asked Amber about it in chat earlier, she said as long as its tasteful which his post is it can stay. And I will edit my post, though in some contexts I'm not wrong.

EDIT: too late to edit it now, but I should have said NEARLY everyone on here.
 
centerfold_cams said:
ATTN: CenterfoldCams.com is currently looking for Cam Models to Beta Test our new cam script.


Your site sucks

Hope this feedback is of use :lol:
 
You probably should have setup the actual base for a cam site before advertising for beta testers. To a model this kind of looks like a weird scam to gather info. But then again I'm paranoid.
 
nzhere said:
Your site sucks

Hope this feedback is of use :lol:

Allow me to paraphrase...

This site sounds like it has a lot of disadvantages. It seems to combine negative attributes of other sites with little upside for models or members.

The first thing that struck me is that models forfeit their chips if they get banned. That's just stealing. If you want to ban a model that's your call, but anything she has earned is hers.

Pre-defined gifts are less attractive for members than the option to give whatever you like. There's no reason for it. One-token tips are lame, but other than that, members should have flexibility. If I want to tip 123 tk, or in the case of Ambah, 33 tk, that's between me and the model.

Word filters are silly on an adult site. What is offensive coming from one member can be amusing coming from another. In fact, so can 1 tk tips.

Why would anyone pay for a pre-recorded cam show of some random model? I can't see that being popular. If I want to get money to a model, I'll book a private or tip.

No free chat. Right. Except there is free chat. It is doled out in 2-minute sessions, but it's still free and the models are still stuck at their camera in case someone shows up, most likely bored out of their minds with no one to talk to because it's a new site with no traffic, and little prospect of more. If she is working at another site as well, she has little reason to pay much attention to your 2-minute wonders, most of whom will be basics, who will barely have a chance to say "hello" if the model is also entertaining a room at the site with free chat.

The other site of which I am a member has no free chat for realz. They have scheduled public strip-to-nude-but-that's-it shows for members who pay a nominal subscription fee for which models are compensated only with tips (80% to the model), but most models don't do more than one or two a week, and these are voluntary. It's an opportunity for models to promote themselves and members to get acquainted and socialize and these chats are monitored by an admin. Other than that, models schedule times for which members may book appointments, or they can flag themselves as being on call, or they can do both. They get an SMS text letting them know that someone wants to spend time with them, and they have 20 minutes to accept or refuse an immediate engagement. They have even longer to accept appointments for times in the future.

Most models at this other site also work other sites that have free chat. Several of them are at MFC and some have pretty decent rankings. If things are slow at the free chat site, they go on call at the other site. They do their thing at MFC or LJ or wherever, and if they get a call from the other site, they can do a private there. The other site pays and costs less per private minute, but if a model isn't making bank at the free site or wants to spend time with a member, she can still earn and make good use of her time on camera. That site pays 60% normally or 82% from members the model herself brings in, and the models set their own rates. I know models who have been working with the same site director on the same terms for years, including some who are at soft nude sites, which gives you an idea of the type of model they look for. It is definitely, and intentionally, a niche site.

Finally: Admins lurking in privates? GTFO of my private chat, you creepy, freeloading busybody.
 
Sevrin said:
nzhere said:
Your site sucks

Hope this feedback is of use :lol:

Allow me to paraphrase...

This site sounds like it has a lot of disadvantages. It seems to combine negative attributes of other sites with little upside for models or members.

The first thing that struck me is that models forfeit their chips if they get banned. That's just stealing. If you want to ban a model that's your call, but anything she has earned is hers.

Pre-defined gifts are less attractive for members than the option to give whatever you like. There's no reason for it. One-token tips are lame, but other than that, members should have flexibility. If I want to tip 123 tk, or in the case of Ambah, 33 tk, that's between me and the model.

Word filters are silly on an adult site. What is offensive coming from one member can be amusing coming from another. In fact, so can 1 tk tips.

Why would anyone pay for a pre-recorded cam show of some random model? I can't see that being popular. If I want to get money to a model, I'll book a private or tip.

No free chat. Right. Except there is free chat. It is doled out in 2-minute sessions, but it's still free and the models are still stuck at their camera in case someone shows up, most likely bored out of their minds with no one to talk to because it's a new site with no traffic, and little prospect of more. If she is working at another site as well, she has little reason to pay much attention to your 2-minute wonders, most of whom will be basics, who will barely have a chance to say "hello" if the model is also entertaining a room at the site with free chat.

The other site of which I am a member has no free chat for realz. They have scheduled public strip-to-nude-but-that's-it shows for members who pay a nominal subscription fee for which models are compensated only with tips (80% to the model), but most models don't do more than one or two a week, and these are voluntary. It's an opportunity for models to promote themselves and members to get acquainted and socialize and these chats are monitored by an admin. Other than that, models schedule times for which members may book appointments, or they can flag themselves as being on call, or they can do both. They get an SMS text letting them know that someone wants to spend time with them, and they have 20 minutes to accept or refuse an immediate engagement. They have even longer to accept appointments for times in the future.

Most models at this other site also work other sites that have free chat. Several of them are at MFC and some have pretty decent rankings. If things are slow at the free chat site, they go on call at the other site. They do their thing at MFC or LJ or wherever, and if they get a call from the other site, they can do a private there. The other site pays and costs less per private minute, but if a model isn't making bank at the free site or wants to spend time with a member, she can still earn and make good use of her time on camera. That site pays 60% normally or 82% from members the model herself brings in, and the models set their own rates. I know models who have been working with the same site director on the same terms for years, including some who are at soft nude sites, which gives you an idea of the type of model they look for. It is definitely, and intentionally, a niche site.

Finally: Admins lurking in privates? GTFO of my private chat, you creepy, freeloading busybody.

Thanks for your honest input Sevrin, I'd like to reply to a few of your comments.

1) There isn't a cam girl anywhere that's making 80% unless it's a sweetheart deal, most are making only 35% - 50%. We never said 75% is cut in stone, that's why we want input from the cam models.

2) "Why would anyone pay for a pre-recorded cam show of some random model?" Who said random? What if it's one of your favorites? Whats wrong with the girl making more off of her work instead of finding it ripped and on a free porn site?

3) We have no issues with our cam models to simultaneously work with us and another site(s).

4) This was called 'Beta' for a reason - input from the models and members opinions to impose changes before the site goes live. This site is geared towards THE MODEL and MEMBER experience and NOT management. Because without the models and members, there is no site, we understand this.

5) Unlike other sites, the models would NOT forfeit their legal rights such as copyright with us as they do at every other site including mfc.

6) Models with their own websites can sign for the affiliate program and earn another 10% for all the traffic driven to our site of which they also model.

7) Models would have the ability to post and promote themselves on our current site which is linked to 18 other sites in our network. Each post is also directly linked and posted to our Twitter account; Currently at 655 followers that have a combined follower base of 1.7 million, mfc only has about 800 twitter followers and we do acknowledge them (mfc) as the 800 pound gorilla in the room of adult video chat.

"Finally: Admins lurking in privates? GTFO of my private chat, you creepy, freeloading busybody." This last statement is obvious that our site will NOT BE for you. But if you think that you are NOT CURRENTLY being monitored and your privates being recorded for future use at the sites you attend or whoever they sell them to then you are very sadly mistaken and deceived. But thanks for your honest input...it is appreciated.

Thanks to Amber and everyone involved for letting us post; we meant no offense and apologize for our initial actions.
 
Hrm. I'll take a look.

I mean, I personally like free chat with my friends and them choosing how much they tip me, but other than that I don't see any harm about looking around when I'm bored.


I like a lot of your thoughts on the site so far, and all the agreeable information you provide.
 
Frankie said:
You probably should have setup the actual base for a cam site before advertising for beta testers. To a model this kind of looks like a weird scam to gather info. But then again I'm paranoid.

You're right Frankie, and I don't blame you or anyone to be leery. The base site is UP and I apologize for not orating that correctly enough though.

In contacting us I need to substantiate that the person is in fact a cam model, I will then email them the url of the base site to check out and test out. This url must be kept discreet though, same with all comments and critiques.

In NO WAY am I a perv scraping info, This project is for real, guaranteed.

Grace and Peace :-D
Scott
 
AlexLady said:
Hrm. I'll take a look.

I mean, I personally like free chat with my friends and them choosing how much they tip me, but other than that I don't see any harm about looking around when I'm bored.


I like a lot of your thoughts on the site so far, and all the agreeable information you provide.


It can be set with free chat, whatever the models want to assure we all make bank.
 
Sevrin said:
This site sounds like it has a lot of disadvantages. It seems to combine negative attributes of other sites with little upside for models or members.
Truth
Sevrin said:
The first thing that struck me is that models forfeit their chips if they get banned. That's just stealing. If you want to ban a model that's your call, but anything she has earned is hers.
This actually might be illegal. Thats basically saying that if I get fired from my job, my boss can keep any money I earned prior to being fired.
Sevrin said:
Word filters are silly on an adult site. What is offensive coming from one member can be amusing coming from another. In fact, so can 1 tk tips.
Wordfilter "bb"
Sevrin said:
Why would anyone pay for a pre-recorded cam show of some random model? I can't see that being popular. If I want to get money to a model, I'll book a private or tip.
Well, people do pay for videos, so similar.
Sevrin said:
No free chat. Right. Except there is free chat. It is doled out in 2-minute sessions, but it's still free and the models are still stuck at their camera in case someone shows up, most likely bored out of their minds with no one to talk to because it's a new site with no traffic, and little prospect of more. If she is working at another site as well, she has little reason to pay much attention to your 2-minute wonders, most of whom will be basics, who will barely have a chance to say "hello" if the model is also entertaining a room at the site with free chat.
This in totally lame and is basically like all the sites that aren't as popular as MFC. I think This is actually where MFC got things right.

Sevrin said:
Finally: Admins lurking in privates? GTFO of my private chat, you creepy, freeloading busybody.
Again, Truth. Privates should be private. That's why they're called privates. The stated version isn't private but "my buddies and I are going to get you to pay us to jerk off to your private show.
centerfold_cams said:
1) There isn't a cam girl anywhere that's making 80% unless it's a sweetheart deal, most are making only 35% - 50%. We never said 75% is cut in stone, that's why we want input from the cam models.
I believe he stated there was. I know he didn't name it, but that looks rather intentional.
centerfold_cams said:
5) Unlike other sites, the models would NOT forfeit their legal rights such as copyright with us as they do at every other site including mfc.
Well, that's an interesting issue because technically they're doing work-for-hire which means by default they don't own it unless you grant them rights, which you never stated. this would have been an important issue to mention up front.
centerfold_cams said:
7) Models would have the ability to post and promote themselves on our current site which is linked to 18 other sites in our network. Each post is also directly linked and posted to our Twitter account; Currently at 655 followers that have a combined follower base of 1.7 million, mfc only has about 800 twitter followers and we do acknowledge them (mfc) as the 800 pound gorilla in the room of adult video chat.
>We have 655, MFC ONLY HAS 800.
Cool story bro.
 
That IS a major fail.

Centerfold, did you know that Paypal doesn't allow for "adult" transactions? All accounts connected to your site will be in danger of being shut down.
 
LadyLuna said:
That IS a major fail.

Centerfold, did you know that Paypal doesn't allow for "adult" transactions? All accounts connected to your site will be in danger of being shut down.

This. Plus, not only shut down, but make you enemy of all cam whores.
 
I dont like at lot of what he's offering, but at least he's professional. I personally wouldn't go to this site, the way its set up as described.
 
Sevrin said:
Word filters are silly on an adult site. What is offensive coming from one member can be amusing coming from another. In fact, so can 1 tk tips.

Also - account ban for attempting several times to use one of a list of words that vary by model = barking mad.

Dealing well with streaming non-live content is about the only plus I see in this site personally.

But this site is clearly not aimed at me, so that's probably not an issue.

If you can attract 5000 or so of the current MFC heavier tippers - those buying >$100/mo - then the buisness model may work.
Otherwise, you're gonna need to plow a lot of money directly into the models bank accounts to get them to sit there, while traffic grows organically.
 
Frankie said:
LadyLuna said:
That IS a major fail.

Centerfold, did you know that Paypal doesn't allow for "adult" transactions? All accounts connected to your site will be in danger of being shut down.

This. Plus, not only shut down, but make you enemy of all cam whores.

Yes I'm aware of the PayPal issues, I've used them for years and in one instance in the past even had 55k put on hold by them. That part should have been removed, rest assured it's GONE now.

Here is a direct quote from an email I sent to a cam girl earlier yesterday, "You will also observe Paypal as an payment option, we will be going with another payment option in which a Visa Debit card will be issued and loaded each payday."

We are also looking at payment via text to those that are capable, along with members ability to pay via cell phone and not with cc.

Believe me Frankie, We are not going to piss off the people who butter the bread. It has already be communicated to those who will be handling this site of which I am one, "The Models are to be taken care of."

I have hired 3 admin/cs persons to handle all issues that members/models may have and will hire more as need arises. In order to eliminate any pervs in a admin capacity these first three are all female and highly qualified without any personal opinion to the business at hand. They understand their role. We will treat you with the utmost respect and dignity as persons and not as an organ grinder monkey performing for tips. But I also expect the best possible performers having fun with professional decorum. I want this site to be better than the avg. run of the mill site.

Lastly, I've re instituted free chat, (seems to be the most popular). Models still have ability to price their own rooms and looking into the arbitrary tipping method. Will leave the Gift Shop tips in place for now so ppl can tip you "7 tokens" for a frckn Mercedes from their cheap account.....on a slow Tuesday night. :lol:

Centerfold
 
FifthElephant said:
Sevrin said:
Word filters are silly on an adult site. What is offensive coming from one member can be amusing coming from another. In fact, so can 1 tk tips.

Also - account ban for attempting several times to use one of a list of words that vary by model = barking mad.

Dealing well with streaming non-live content is about the only plus I see in this site personally.

But this site is clearly not aimed at me, so that's probably not an issue.

If you can attract 5000 or so of the current MFC heavier tippers - those buying >$100/mo - then the buisness model may work.
Otherwise, you're gonna need to plow a lot of money directly into the models bank accounts to get them to sit there, while traffic grows organically.

The word filters are not a deal breaker, they are there if the model wants them, the model will have control of her room as to what she will or won't tolerate.
 
centerfold_cams said:
FifthElephant said:
Sevrin said:
Word filters are silly on an adult site. What is offensive coming from one member can be amusing coming from another. In fact, so can 1 tk tips.

Also - account ban for attempting several times to use one of a list of words that vary by model = barking mad.

Dealing well with streaming non-live content is about the only plus I see in this site personally.

But this site is clearly not aimed at me, so that's probably not an issue.

If you can attract 5000 or so of the current MFC heavier tippers - those buying >$100/mo - then the buisness model may work.
Otherwise, you're gonna need to plow a lot of money directly into the models bank accounts to get them to sit there, while traffic grows organically.

The word filters are not a deal breaker, they are there if the model wants them, the model will have control of her room as to what she will or won't tolerate.

The issue here isn't really the existence of word-filters, it's that if you get word-filter blocked enough in various rooms you're going to get site banned. As you said, too many word filters get you banned from a models room. Several bans get you site banned. People like Bawksy would be screwed. Heck, some models just don't like you for no particular reason and would ban you. That could possible site ban people. Then you'd have to refund their money (well, you could not and then hope they don't charge back or sue you for it).
 
Let's put to rest this word filter thing, The site has two types available to use:

one would simply put an asterisk in place of the filtered word such as cu** which would be all astericked out in the chat window, that's all.

the second could be established say if someone was threatened with violence... say the word 'kill' in their text and this word is filtered, a report would go to admin w/o the model having to invoke anything. Reporting username and IP and chat log.

The models will have control of these, their call. but on the other hand, the models will also be observed for 'ban' happiness of our members up to and including write ups, fines levied and suspension, it works both ways. Once a model is suspended her IP is blacklisted for any further attempts to re-register. We also have proxy checkers in place.

I seriously doubt that the word checkers will be invoked at all.
 
Well, a model needs to be free to moderate her room how she sees fit. It's her chat room. She's the only active moderator; the admins are behind the scenes.


Personally, if a girl doesn't want to deal with someone who ''typs lik dis" she has every right to ban him. That and some girls will ban for a guys' fetish. If I don't want to deal with some Daddy-creeper, or anything like that, I'll ban them too. If I think their name is noob, I'll ban them. If he wants me to look at his dick or says it's 11inches... well you get the point.

There should be serious offense bans that get tracked. Not every ban should hurt someone. I mean, just because I don't like someone's fetish doesn't mean they did anything wrong.

I understand punishing people who harass models or something like that, but I mean, most bans won't be about that.
 
AlexLady said:
Well, a model needs to be free to moderate her room how she sees fit. It's her chat room. She's the only active moderator; the admins are behind the scenes.


Personally, if a girl doesn't want to deal with someone who ''typs lik dis" she has every right to ban him. That and some girls will ban for a guys' fetish. If I don't want to deal with some Daddy-creeper, or anything like that, I'll ban them too. If I think their name is noob, I'll ban them. If he wants me to look at his dick or says it's 11inches... well you get the point.

There should be serious offense bans that get tracked. Not every ban should hurt someone. I mean, just because I don't like someone's fetish doesn't mean they did anything wrong.

I understand punishing people who harass models or something like that, but I mean, most bans won't be about that.
I agree AlexLady, I was referring to extreme banning cases; In the end Models have the control over their room.
 
centerfold_cams said:
I have hired 3 admin/cs persons to handle all issues that members/models may have and will hire more as need arises. In order to eliminate any pervs in a admin capacity these first three are all female

I'm guessing the fact that they're female is because you're aware that all men are pervs, and not because you think that no women are...

*spoken by a woman who likes to perv...*

[quote="centerfold_cams] and highly qualified without any personal opinion to the business at hand. They understand their role.[/quote]

This seems to give credence to that.

I would like to thank you for being patient with us as we pick your site to bits, and willing to explain the reasons behind and misconceptions about the policies you listed.
 
finding this post interesting. i was a beta tester on a bbw cam site and it had potential however the problem was in payout (only 100 $ increments) they werent realistic with letting the models pick their price (initially stating that we could pick between x &x-then 2 weeks after up an running told us between 1-2 max. ) none of the girls i knew on that site actually got paid. we earned money from shows or tips . a plus was they could pre-record video and set a price (as well as take requests) i kinda liked that feature.

i hope your beta testing goes well - and that you take the tips that people give.

seems you can deal with the picky people on here lol so as long as you listen to the models and the members you will have a good chance to do great
 
LadyLuna said:
centerfold_cams said:
I have hired 3 admin/cs persons to handle all issues that members/models may have and will hire more as need arises. In order to eliminate any pervs in a admin capacity these first three are all female

I'm guessing the fact that they're female is because you're aware that all men are pervs, and not because you think that no women are...

*spoken by a woman who likes to perv...*

[quote="centerfold_cams] and highly qualified without any personal opinion to the business at hand. They understand their role.

This seems to give credence to that.

I would like to thank you for being patient with us as we pick your site to bits, and willing to explain the reasons behind and misconceptions about the policies you listed.[/quote][/quote]

I will tell my wife and daughters your quote; I'm sure they'll get a kick out of it. Pick away at the site all you would like, I do want the feedback, whether good, bad or indifferent.

I'm not worried about the site, it will stand on it's own record, I have faith in my own abilities to manage it and I don't think I'll have any probs finding models because they will set the pricing of their rooms along with being paid the highest percentage rate in the industry right out of the gate. There is a cam girl on this site that can attest to that.
 
Alura69 said:
finding this post interesting. i was a beta tester on a bbw cam site and it had potential however the problem was in payout (only 100 $ increments) they werent realistic with letting the models pick their price (initially stating that we could pick between x &x-then 2 weeks after up an running told us between 1-2 max. ) none of the girls i knew on that site actually got paid. we earned money from shows or tips . a plus was they could pre-record video and set a price (as well as take requests) i kinda liked that feature.

i hope your beta testing goes well - and that you take the tips that people give.

seems you can deal with the picky people on here lol so as long as you listen to the models and the members you will have a good chance to do great

Thank you for your kind words, much appreciated.
 
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