Asking on cb get me or the model banned?

[routineop]

Model offer snapchat or telegram for videocalls.

I was wondering would she prefer to make homevideo and ill wire her alll cash to paypal but at a slighly lower rate but higher than what she would make originally because cb doesnt get a cut...

Meaning paying actual cash to her via paypal?

First im guessing even asking. Could get me banned by chaterbate?

Second maybe the model finds that too risky ?

If i went the original route the rate woukd be £400 im guessing the cb model gets £200 plus tax . So my offer would be £250-£300 into paypal?

Does any of this sound doable.... or reasonable ?

Maybe i run the risk of her not doing it at all. Whdre i suppose cb route you have some coverage?

Snapchat video call just seems like poorer camera footage aswell ? Trying to broadcaat from a smartphone ?

 

[SuperPookie]

You are asking that model to risk getting her entire account banned because Chaturbate definitely will if she takes PayPal . No site allows a model to take offsite payments like that and PayPal itself doesn't allow adult transactions so using it at all is iffy.
However many models have social media with messaging so try looking her up under her Chaturbate name and asking her on there.
There's no rule against using Google and then talking to her about it.

 

[Marceline]

I’m beginning to wonder at this point if you’re just straight up trolling.

If you’re not, a quick search through the forum would tell you that no one here agrees with the use of PayPal.

It is against PayPal’s TOS to use it for “digital sex services”. You risk having your account banned and losing any funds in your account at the time if you send or receive money for adult related stuff, although the model is a lot more likely to have her account banned.

If she has a ManyVids or iWantClips account, they both have escrow systems for custom video orders and the payout is 80% on MV and 100% of what she charges on iWC (with the caveat that the customer has to pay an additional fee, I think about 20%, to cover the site’s costs).

Also, most models charge the same amount per minute for customs regardless of their cut. Meaning, even if she agreed to do offsite payments, she would probably still charge whatever she normally would and you wouldn’t get the “discount” you’re looking for.

In conclusion, I wouldn’t even ask about it. Yes it is risky, but not for the reasons you seem to think. I’m assuming you wouldn’t be stupid enough to ask directly on CB, which of course you’d risk getting yourself and the model banned if you asked there. Also, if you ask you’re risking the model banning you herself from her room, because I know for me, I wouldn’t care which platform someone asked me to take offsite payments on. I’d straight up block them because in my opinion it’s disrespectful and greedy.

 

[routineop]

I’m beginning to wonder at this point if you’re just straight up trolling.

If you’re not, a quick search through the forum would tell you that no one here agrees with the use of PayPal.

It is against PayPal’s TOS to use it for “digital sex services”. You risk having your account banned and losing any funds in your account at the time if you send or receive money for adult related stuff, although the model is a lot more likely to have her account banned.

If she has a ManyVids or iWantClips account, they both have escrow systems for custom video orders and the payout is 80% on MV and 100% of what she charges on iWC (with the caveat that the customer has to pay an additional fee, I think about 20%, to cover the site’s costs).

Also, most models charge the same amount per minute for customs regardless of their cut. Meaning, even if she agreed to do offsite payments, she would probably still charge whatever she normally would and you wouldn’t get the “discount” you’re looking for.

In conclusion, I wouldn’t even ask about it. Yes it is risky, but not for the reasons you seem to think. I’m assuming you wouldn’t be stupid enough to ask directly on CB, which of course you’d risk getting yourself and the model banned if you asked there. Also, if you ask you’re risking the model banning you herself from her room, because I know for me, I wouldn’t care which platform someone asked me to take offsite payments on. I’d straight up block them because in my opinion it’s disrespectful and greedy.

Distespectful and greedy... its cutting out the middle man and putting the money directly in her pocket ... thats why its frowned upon by platforms because well they might lose there cut . You saod yourseld aome modela use specidic sites to sell clips . Its no different than that except asking rhe model does she . I obviously wpuldnt ask u less using off site social media . Hence the reasoning behind this post. Of she uses sites like you suggested.. maybe not cb bit she would probably get increased repeat customers. I mean £400 in one whack sum £200 for her or £200 for cb and less frequent or more frequent customers had £250 to £300 directly to her £200 sounds more realstic in my opinion people spend that on a night out £400 qlthough she still woukd get the same rate but people are more likely to spend £200 weekly than £400

 

[yummybrownfox]

Distespectful and greedy... its cutting out the middle man and putting the money directly in her pocket ... thats why its frowned upon by platforms because well they might lose there cut . You saod yourseld aome modela use specidic sites to sell clips . Its no different than that except asking rhe model does she . I obviously wpuldnt ask u less using off site social media . Hence the reasoning behind this post

You created a thread on here to ask a question. Two cam models gave you an answer. Even if it’s not what you wanted to hear, say thank you, and listen to their advice…rather than just ignore the advice and do what you prefer to do. Otherwise why even bother asking?

 

[AudriTwo]

You are not doing the model any favors by offering to pay her with paypal.

Paypal is extremely anti-adult for personal use. You are risking her and your personal account if/ when they catch on.

If cammodels dont want to use a middleman aka platform to broadcast their streams, use their traffic, post content, and accept payments then they shouldnt be using them. There are plenty opportunities to be fully independent, but its a lot harder and more expensive.

Chaturbate will catch on if she is poaching members and will get her banned. Could take a few weeks or years. It is not smart to risk your long-term income for maybe an extra fifty or hundred buckaroos.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Wow this guy has come up with a novel idea no one else has ever thought of or tried before

 

[routineop]

You created a thread on here to ask a question. Two cam models gave you an answer. Even if it’s not what you wanted to hear, say thank you, and listen to their advice…rather than just ignore the advice and do what you prefer to do. Otherwise why even bother asking?

Never understand why people get defensive on this forum , i clearly awknowledged the advice given ...but i have questions. One post says ask her off site, the other says she may use specific sites . Dont ask on cb .... gotcha

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Never understand why people get defensive on thos forum , i clearly awknowledged there advice but i have questions

We aren’t defensive, we just don’t have much patience for people who can’t do basic due diligence searching.

Is It A Good Idea For Cam Models To Use Paypal

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'Is it a good idea for cam models to use paypal' themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

 

[routineop]

We aren’t defensive, we just don’t have much patience for people who can’t do basic due diligence searching.

What do you think this post is... ie public Forum

 

[LaceyRoyce]

What do you think this is

Not Google! Also it’s an etiquette thing here to run a quick search of the forum before asking your question in case it’s been answered.

Your question has been answered here many times

 

[routineop]

Not Google

Google search led me here . Google does not give you specifics on the world of caming. Yeah this post is clearly going nowhere but a temper tantrum

 

[routineop]

Not Google! Also it’s an etiquette thing here to run a quick search of the forum before asking your question in case it’s been answered.

Your question has been answered here many times

When you need advice for a loan do you check online or do you speak to the bank.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Google search led me here . Google does not give you specifics on the world of caming. Yeah this post is clearly going nowhere but a temper tantrum

I promise I’m not throwing a temper tantrum but I do want to direct your attention to the search option for the forum, and also the results my Google popped up with. It gave a ton of specifics on why PayPal is a bad idea.

Myself and another producer do a regular Twitter live deep dive and best practices on financial discrimination against the adult industry. There are many podcast options talking about this too. PayPal is universally known to be unsafe for models. There are security risks about to be added too as businesses owner’s information will now be revealed

 

[LaceyRoyce]

When you need advice for a loan do you check online or do you speak to the bank.

I check online, lol don’t trust the bank! Your analogy doesn’t really work though.


We are not selling you our expert services here, we expect you to use search. You have recieved the advice you asked for, whether you like the delivery or not. That’s why you’re getting a reaction, you breeched forum etiquette. Do with this info what you will!

 

[routineop]

I check online, lol don’t trust the bank! Your analogy doesn’t really work though.


We are not selling you our expert services here, we expect you to use search. You have recieved the advice you asked for, whether you like the delivery or not. That’s why you’re getting a reaction, you breeched forum etiquette. Do with this info what you will!

Tell me this wpuld a google aearch tell me its an etiquette thing also

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Ugh I am triple posting but I wanna say one more thing:

Taking direct payments is something some models do despite the risk. PayPal is a terrible idea but there are some US based things you can use that have lower risk (but still high) for US to US payments.

In my case, I would always still charge FULL price if I take a direct payment BECAUSE I am risking my account (foreverr) and losing all chargeback protection. It’s a far higher risk transaction therefore if a member wishes to use it, I expect to make the full payment to offset the risk.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Tell me this wpuld a google aearch tell me its an etiquette thing also

Fuck offff LOL

 

[routineop]

Ugh I am triple posting but I wanna say one more thing:

Taking direct payments is something some models do despite the risk. PayPal is a terrible idea but there are some US based things you can use that have lower risk (but still high) for US to US payments.

In my case, I would always still charge FULL price if I take a direct payment BECAUSE I am risking my account (foreverr) and losing all chargeback protection. It’s a far higher risk transaction therefore if a member wishes to use it, I expect to make the full payment to offset the risk.

You seem to be trting to control the realms of reality . If you dont want to answer dont . But from my standpoint Thats the whole point of a forum

 

[routineop]

Fuck offff LOL

No this is my post you fuck off. Its reactions like these you tend to wonderr why people bother at all with cam models. Every question leads to an argument . I

If you dont like what you do dont do it dont take it out on me. You arent even the model so why you bitchin

 

[misterical]

No this is my post you fuck off. Its reactions like these you tend to wonderr why people bother at all with cam models. Every question leads to an argument . I

If you dont like what you do dont do it dont take it out on me. You arent even the model so why you bitchin

Dude, not a model, a fellow member. Show a bit of respect here though. It seems to me that the way you've put it forward, the model gains an additional income of of about 25% on the transaction. You, on the other hand stand to save about 40% on the transaction. But tell us again how it's all about cutting out that horrible middleman Chaturbate.

If I was a model my drive would be towards charging you the same and me making more profit. So, £400 still but I get more. A little insulting to throw her a small increase, while saving a chunk off your own costs yet somehow painting it as if you are doing her a favour. She shoulders all the risk while you shoulder all the discount. Convenient.

 

[MarieElise]

He's a troll guys. Not a good amusing one either, the dumb sort, that isn't even funny.

I noticed that the first thread he was in. He words everything in a super neggy and rude way. Don't let him bother you
He'll never last around here.
I have his dumb ass on block, but I can tell even without seeing his comments, who this is.

 

[ElGato]

He's a troll guys. Not a good amusing one either, the dumb sort, that isn't even funny.

I noticed that the first thread he was in. He words everything in a super neggy and rude way. Don't let him bother you
He'll never last around here.
I have his dumb ass on block, but I can tell even without seeing his comments, who this is.

 

[Vixxen81]

I wish guys on here would understand you are not owed flowery handholding responses and we can be curt, blunt, and to the point because well...we're women and we know all of your "but" "if" "well I'm a nice guy" stuff.

 

[routineop]

I wish guys on here would understand you are not owed flowery handholding responses and we can be curt, blunt, and to the point because well...we're women and we know all of your "but" "if" "well I'm a nice guy" stuff.

Hardly, . Im not the one bullshitting . I asked a straight forward questions . You guys are bullshitting about ettiquette....

I wasnt aware models were contracted by platforms even when completley independent

That sounds like a bullshit contract to me

Taking all the risk

You realise your being hustled right

Nothing to do with being the nice guy . Im just calling it how i see it.

Im good either way . I just find it surprising

 

[routineop]

He's a troll guys. Not a good amusing one either, the dumb sort, that isn't even funny.

I noticed that the first thread he was in. He words everything in a super neggy and rude way. Don't let him bother you
He'll never last around here.
I have his dumb ass on block, but I can tell even without seeing his comments, who this is.

Thank god for that, neggy? this is the buisness and i asked a question related to it. said in another post "guys come on here expect nice response ? No, but why do you expect any different.

 

[Schnauzevoll]

Hardly, . Im not the one bullshitting . I asked a straight forward questions . You guys are bullshitting about ettiquette....

I wasnt aware models were contracted by platforms even when completley independent

That sounds like a bullshit contract to me

Taking all the risk

You realise your being hustled right

Nothing to do with being the nice guy . Im just calling it how i see it.

Im good either way . I just find it surprising

well… the sites dont just pimp us out line you make it sound. the rules protect us, age verifies customers, chargeback protection and all that. ppl who try to get deals offsite (or try to have me break any other rule on the site) usually find themselves in a cozy corner on my blocklist. as ppl said: you not just risk your own account but also ours, our income.

 

[routineop]

I wish guys on here would understand you are not owed flowery handholding responses and we can be curt, blunt, and to the point because well...we're women and we know all of your "but" "if" "well I'm a nice guy" stuff.

Yet i was straight forward and your talking about ettiquette.

Were talking about communication thats it

 

[Marceline]

Distespectful and greedy... its cutting out the middle man and putting the money directly in her pocket ... thats why its frowned upon by platforms because well they might lose there cut . You saod yourseld aome modela use specidic sites to sell clips . Its no different than that except asking rhe model does she . I obviously wpuldnt ask u less using off site social media . Hence the reasoning behind this post. Of she uses sites like you suggested.. maybe not cb bit she would probably get increased repeat customers. I mean £400 in one whack sum £200 for her or £200 for cb and less frequent or more frequent customers had £250 to £300 directly to her £200 sounds more realstic in my opinion people spend that on a night out £400 qlthough she still woukd get the same rate but people are more likely to spend £200 weekly than £400

Let's be honest. Members who want to pay offsite don't care about the model "getting more money"/"the site not taking their cut". They want to pay less. You said it yourself, why would you pay $400 on the site when you can pay $100-$150 less offsite. If you truly cared about the model getting more, you would respect her prices and not try to find ways so that you pay less. Hence, greedy. Trust me, we as models take the site cuts into consideration when we price our services/content.

Also, there's essentially no "safe" ways to accept money from a member where there's no site cuts/fees. Basically all vanilla payment apps (PayPal, Venmo, CashApp etc) don't allow adult transactions and your accounts can get banned and funds seized if you accept sex work payments on them. Wire transfers expose your personal information. If you go independent you need to pay for a payment processor. It puts the model at risk. That's not all the same as using another adult site to accept certain payments on. Hence, disrespectful.

It's also disrespectful to essentially ask for a huge discount for yourself, when like I said, we price our content/services accordingly.

 

[Vixxen81]

I just don't have the energy for this anymore.