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To be honest, yes it is extremely helpful. It answers your original question with precisely the reason why: Because we feel like it.

I've visited her room, and I've tipped her a few token. Why? Because I felt like it. No other reason. Should it matter to you how I spend my money? Nope. Because it certainly doesn't matter to me how you spend yours.
 
To be honest, yes it is extremely helpful. It answers your original question with precisely the reason why: Because we feel like it.

I've visited her room, and I've tipped her a few token. Why? Because I felt like it. No other reason.

Why did you feel like tipping her? Maybe you don't know it yourself, then that's of course fine.
My intention when making this topic was to learn for which reason anybody tips her. "Because i feel like it" is just way too unspecific to understand it.
 
Why did you feel like tipping her? Maybe you don't know it yourself, then that's of course fine.
My intention when making this topic was to learn for which reason anybody tips her. "Because i feel like it" is just way too unspecific to understand it.
But that by itself is a reason. Maybe just not one that you are looking for. I haven't visited the model in question but I've absolutely tipped others just because I've felt like it in the moment. Not for any specific thing or reason. I felt like it and didn't expect anything in return. I understand that can seem frustrating since you are finding your way as a model and trying out different things right now but some members are like that sometimes.
 
Maybe it's towards a goal? or towards something private like watching them on cam, videos, snapchat etc

Maybe they just like the model and want to tip to show they appreciate them?

Maybe they have something personal they want to say that's best said in a tip note?

Million reasons really and they're only the business of the model and member
 
In any profession where tips are your sole/primary source of income, whether it be camming, bartending, waitressing or dancing, it comes off as very rude to ask why someone else is being tipped especially when you imply that they are not deserved because they are "basically doing nothing". Hitting that broadcast button and sitting there having hundreds or thousands of people watching you is doing something in and of itself. Not many people can go online for hours everyday and know that they are being watched by so many people and still play it cool. I think this girl's hustle is awesome.

To answer the question of "why" someone would tip her, well there's tons of reasons and it all depends on the person tipping. It could be because the person has an ignore/denial fetish, because she is very cute and looks really young and that's what they are into, because they want to see if their tip will be the game changer or simply because they just feel like it. I also think the people complaining about her camming style or questioning it just adds more incentive to others to tip her.
 
Why did you feel like tipping her? Maybe you don't know it yourself, then that's of course fine.
My intention when making this topic was to learn for which reason anybody tips her. "Because i feel like it" is just way too unspecific to understand it.

Again, the answer really is "Just because I felt like it". But, it can be for a variety of reasons. Here's a few previous posts I made about my tipping:



https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/t...-say-im-gonna-tip-this-gal.29747/#post-893420

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/t...s-what-do-receive-tips-for.29968/#post-898885

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/what-draws-you-to-a-room.28256/page-2#post-854516

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/t...ammunity-now-camyou.28390/page-11#post-858249
 
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I bet that facebook hate group was made by the OP of the previous thread of her being a scammer the way he types is like exact. What a crazy obsessive person!
I suspected the same. A few amusing comments in there :p
 
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We did tell him to go make his own space to bitch about it. Looks like he made friends! LAWL



THE ONLY WAY TO STOP HER IS TO BOYCOTT HER!!
This is my safe space!!!!!
 
To OP, I don't understand why some people pay big money to enter a stadium to watch oddly dressed men swing a stick at a white sphere. I'm sure there are people that don't get why I pay money to watch a bunch of oddly dressed Irish to toss, whack with clubs , and generally commit acts of mayhem, to get a sphere through two posts. It is just a matter of to each his own.
 
After reading the whole thread I have to say that you are getting a cold welcome, @JinxCamshow because you are giving off untrustworthy vibes. Why? Here is the rundown:

1) This thread was your very first interaction on the forum. In a small community like this one it is expected for people to have a few interactions before posting a thread. Meaning: interacting with other people's posts and replying to older threads.
2) You didn't spend a single minute personalizing your account: you have no avatar, no signature, no links.
3) You failed to mention you were a model or what the intention of your thread was on the OP.
4) There is obvious negativity on your OP: you chose a screencap of this model's show where a premium user is complaining after spending 3000 tokens in her chat, you could have chosen a neutral one but you didn't. You say she is doing "nothing" and asking why, then, are they tipping her. This is read by everyone as an attack on the model, it doesn't matter to us that you didn't insult her or that your negativity was implied rather than explicit. It is there and it is palpable. You are now trying to pass it off as a neutral and objective post to "grow as a model". We don't see it.
5) You keep rating posts you disagree with as "spam" even when nobody is spamming.

Welcome to ACF, where people will disagree with you often and tell it to your face. If you wanted a warm fuzzy welcome perhaps start over with a different attitude.
 
1) This thread was your very first interaction on the forum. In a small community like this one it is expected for people to have a few interactions before posting a thread. Meaning: interacting with other people's posts and replying to older threads.
???

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/custom-video-price.30201/ first thread?
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/frequent-issues-with-lovense-product.29058/#post-910027 interacting with other threads?
 
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To be honest, yes it is extremely helpful. It answers your original question with precisely the reason why: Because we feel like it.

I've visited her room, and I've tipped her a few token. Why? Because I felt like it. No other reason. Should it matter to you how I spend my money? Nope. Because it certainly doesn't matter to me how you spend yours.


And this is how all tippers should think.

I see a lot of people who will only tip IF other people are tipping. They won't tip otherwise. I get it especially if the model is using an interactive toy but if they are not, then tipping only if/when someone else does is stupid. I mean, if you like the view, enjoy the woman, enjoy the show and WANT to tip, why the hell wait? You don't need "approval" or anything from other people or to lets others see you're a big man or whatever, for tipping - lol. I don't understand it sometimes, that's all.

It's always simple: do you like the model? Do you have tokens to spend? Then tip !
 
I was going to say, "Because they sense she's a genius and want be part of her aura."

But then I looked at the FB page, and Christ, that is disturbing. She looks like she's 6 years old!

So, I change my answer. It's because the internet is a very disturbing place, and Chaturbate is sometimes the epicenter of all that is wrong with humanity. It doesn't matter if she ever squirts or gets naked or whatever. The creepiest thing ever is people turned on by and trying to convince a 6-year-old-looking being to do sexual things on a camera. On Chaturbate, one can assume it's legal because you know the site verifies people. So it's an easy way to give in to pedophelic desires without feeling one is actually paying a child for a sexual fantasy. Then there are a ton of people who click simply for curiosity, because it's a busy room and she's got clothes on and doesn't appear to be doing anything special on first glance. There are the ignore/princess fetish people. So what draws people to the room and what draws them to tip are different reasons, and each person who tips often will have a different reason from each other why they tipped. Like some people here who cam themselves, and just tip because they have money that day burning a hole in their virtual pocket.

I'm like you and enjoy the research of how this all works monetarily. The psychology of internet sexuality is fascinating to me! This particular room seems to appeal to prob a large number of people with pedophile tendencies, as well as lots of other types of people, because she looks abnormally young, and has clearly gone out of her way to design a 6-yr-old room's atmosphere with the stuff she's watching, the teddy bear, etc. But ignoring that creepiness, I have seen other rooms that make good money off of barely moving or showing anything. Sometimes the reason people tip is simply because they like getting into a tipping war with other people - it actually has little to do with the model. I've seen for instance, from spending waaaaay too many hours "researching," that certain big tipper names that I recognize will move from room to room, tipping against each other to see who will win as the big tipper. I saw that when I was new they even then moved to my room (I recognized the names from my hours of research before I started) - which was almost amazing, but in the end wasn't because what they try to start is a bidding war. They get bored by no tips. So they put tiny amounts in at first, to see if the model responds well, and see if they can encourage other tipping. When one of them came into my room it was at a time when no one else was biting. He tried to get others into it, but got bored when he was the only one over and over again and left. Before he went though, he said he liked me a lot because I had a very different show and a lot of skill for a newcomer, and would be back - but that he would only be tipping big when I have more people in the room and other people are tipping. This kind of person is not into private shows much - what they really want is a dick measuring contest with other guys on the internet. I then saw him with his buddy in a bigger room another day, pushing each other to be the big man. For people like this, it's the power - it's like playing internet games. They love to be the big fish in a room full of stranger little fish, being the cool guy from their arm chair in Mom's basement or whatever the case may be. They love all the other guys looking up at them admiringly, giving compliments to them about how deep their pockets are, or getting mad because he has out-manned them. It's a testosterone thing. It feels good to be the king. It feels awesome to go from room to room and have your name up there as the "high tipper." When you do it in a lot of rooms and people know your name, you feel like you own the world. Models both love and fear you when you enter their room. Other room watchers step back in awe, cheering you on as you help the room reach a goal they're freeloading for. Small tippers love you and egg you on because you save them a penny, or loathe you and criticize you because you're more rich and powerful than they - which is just as good. You're getting a reaction. You're not being ignored, as you may be in your life in the real world.

Also, there are people on there who just love the fantasy that one day, they will see this girl naked. Non-nude models can have a huge sexual draw, because a lot of people love the tease - that maybe one day they will take their clothes off. The mystique of what they've got under there is often better than the real thing. The hope you will be the one to convince her, that you'll be the hero that sweeps her off her feet and makes her see the light of how great nudity is, is a powerful drug to some people. Some people respect her more because she's not doing anything - because a huge percentage of people who pay sex workers, actually loathe sex workers. They respect the few better who they think have boundaries and can't be bought. They come back for the sex over and over again, but they hate themselves for it because of the societal stigma, and they hate the girls they've paid more. So they sometimes really like a girl they can pay for the fantasy that one day they'll get sex out of her, better than one who actually ever gives it to them. It's very like the difference between "wifey" material - the girl they bring home to mom - vs. the girl they sleep with in the backseat of their car, or that old stupid addage (which I've never found to be true BTW) of "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" Psychology plays way more into internet sex work (and really any sex work) than sex itself does. The girl who gives it away easy gets plenty of quick attention. But the girl who makes it a challenge, often makes a lot more money and has a lot more long-term following. In internet cam world, she becomes the "wife." She wins the internet, versus the other girls who give it up too easy and he respects less. Dumb, but a real thing in our society.

I have a few different online cam personas, and they differ wildly. I notice that when I am the sweet innocent girl with the doe eyes who keeps her clothes on, I get way more loyal tippers. What I'm doing there is different from what 95% of the other single-girl cam rooms have to offer. This girl is classy. She is intelligent. She is talented. She clearly doesn't need to be here because she has a promising career in another field, she just likes to be here. She's sex-positive, but very modest. She's the kind every guy falls in love with. Consequently, all she has to do is touch her arm in a flirty way, use a low sexy laugh or catch her breath a little in her throat, flash those big eyes at them and smile a little. Squirm a bit in her dress. Listen to his hard day, stroke his ego a little. It's physically way easier work than one of my other personas, the dark back-room superwhore with a bad attitude. But, it is far more emotionally intense and exhausting. But still fully clothed, I have frequently had guys telling me telling me they came harder watching me than they ever have in their life before, that they would do anything to marry me, that they are in love with me. I think for me, a certain factor in this is not what I'm doing, but that I am genuinely sincere - at least about part of it. I DO love sex. I AM intellectual. I DO get emotionally attached to people, especially if they treat me with respect and have remotely interesting personalities. I actually do genuinely care about what happens to them in their lives, and remember from one day to the next what they said about their mom in the hospital, or that they got a cold, or whatever. I get excited and smile when I see their name in the room, even if they don't tip much, because I know them - because I recognize their name. Guys trip over each other to be the one who earns THAT girl's heart for real, who is her main tipper, who becomes important in her life. Men on the internet are lonely. (Since I'm primarily into women, I only wish women were typically that lonely, and into being big tippers! It would be soooo much more fun for me!)

So what I'm doing in that persona is different from the girls who are just staring and ignoring the room and getting tips. But, I still hear a lot of complaints from other cam girls about people like me. Because while their pussy is fucked raw and bleeding every day, all I had to do was look into the camera and smile coquettishly a few times in an hour for roughly the same amount of money. But funny enough, I burned out on that girl, and do the superwhore and other characters more often, because the wifey persona has to look and act so perfect all the time, always be in a good mood, always be sweet and pleasing. She doesn't do a lot, but emotionally it drains me more because of the head game that she is more like me in my real life than all these other crazy characters I play. (I look over at the cam to be sure the image is right, and all I see if the girl I am when I'm trying to please someone, when I first start dating someone or when my boss is mad at me, staring back at me. It's a little nauseating and stressful, because this person sets high expectations I can never live up to every day of my life.) If I was this cam persona all the time, every day of the year, I probably would make crazy money, and have all kinds of weird off-camera illicit offers. But, I don't want her perfectionistic persona to control me. She barely moves, but she also can never just tell guys to fuck off, or say what she really thinks about things that upset her. She brightens other people's days - that's why they come to her. She makes them feel better. She can't ever be a downer. Sometimes, I'm having a rough time and can't be her for a long time. So I have to put on my wig and work it hard like everybody else in my alternate rooms, as the bad girl. But I can tell you, the people who tip me for doing almost nothing - they just want to be part of my day. They just want to say rude things to me and watch me blush, even though I'll never do the thing they're asking for, like an immature boy in a schoolyard does. They want to be powerful and get a reaction. They want to be the one I come to rely on, the big tipper above all others. They want to be needed, or to look special in front of other people. Some of them just want love, and to have a pretty girl say nice things to them, which never happens IRL. Some of them like coming in the room and being the valiant knight that protects me from all the other leering people (which usually becomes a problem, because none of them tip me enough to make me exclusive and they get possessive very quickly that I'm making those eyes and thanking other tippers).

It helps a ton that I look a lot younger than I am, like my mother and grandmother did before me, so I know a lot more about life and people than I did when I was the age people THINK I am when they see me. Makes me fucking mad, but we also have to consider aside from ageism, the rampant racism in internet porn. I have very pale skin and light hair, and large eyes. People associate that shit with innocence, which means money - similar to this girl on the page with young looks, and lighter skin. People want to protect that kind of girl. They get off on different things when the person camming has very dark skin, or kinky hair, or narrow eyes, or more rounded facial features, or is a guy, or whatever the case may be. They want you to be a stereotype. When you are kind of like the stereotype, but then prove them wrong and turn out to be a unique person unlike anyone they've ever seen before, that makes people very excited, and very loyal in their tips. Where else can they find someone like you? This chick looks like a little girl, but unlike a little girl she controls everybody else, she does whatever the fuck she wants, she does not do what people tell her to do. She's a wild child, a rebel, in that sense. She looks sweet and innocent and like you need to protect her, but then you realize, she's in control, she's taking your money, she's a force to be reckoned with. It makes you feel less creepy and weird about taking advantage of a little girl. Clearly, people love it. It's intriguing. If she did everything people told her to, they would get bored and leave pretty quickly. Too predictable. This girl is definitely like playing the lottery, like being at the casino and losing. You roll those dice, hoping over and over again you'll win this time. But she's always more powerful than you, and she always looks so sweet and innocent and powerless. It's maddening, and addictive, to some people. She always wins. You dream that one day YOU'LL be the one winning over HER. You're kind of glad you never do though. If you ever won, you'd feel kind of bad, because after all she's just a helpless kid. At least she kept her innocence. AT least, with all these weird leering people on the internet, she called the shots, she did what she wanted, she watched her TV and held her teddy bear and kept her shirt on. It's super weird, but the power games of what she represents to some people is what keeps them hooked. She's very triggering, clearly. People love her. People hate her. People make threads and FB
pages about her. People tip her wildly. All this shit stirred, and all she did was sit in a t-shirt ignoring people on camera.

Tug at the fabric of society, and watch people go nuts to glorify you, and bring you down. You don't even have to say anything.



How do you replicate what she does, or what I do, in your own room? The thing is, it's not a clear formula. I do what works for me, what I'm good at. This toddler-looking girl does what works for her. You have to find your niche. You do what is sustainable, what you can be sincere at. What you bring to the internet that nobody else does. People pay when they can't find it anywhere else. This particular room, it looks like where else are you going to go on a reputable site to safely spend your money, and interact with other people you "know" regularly in a community sense, while tipping a 6-year-old who watches Disney shows and say gross sexual things to her as she sits next to her cuddly teddy bear? It literally turns my stomach, having been a victim of child sexual assault myself - but we assume she is an actual adult, and that at least since she never takes her clothes off or does much that is really sexual, it is the safest way to play out this pedophile fantasy for people. Gross, but that's sure as hell a niche market. Not everybody can (or should!!) do it.

Other girls look considerably older, but they have that resting bitch face, never speak, always looked bored at their phone and ignore the whole room. They complain sometimes about how much they hate camming. And in pour the tips! - guys trying to make her feel better, to try to make her smile although she never will, to make her notice them. They're the same saps who marry a girl like this, who is endlessly complaining and never satisfied with him, who cheats on him. They love the emasculation, how spoiled she is. There is someone out there for everyone.

If you don't do what works for you personally, you will probably make less because people will sense you're being fake, and will get frustrated and burn out quickly. So you can't exactly copy any of these people. But you can learn from them, and do your own legal version of chilling/having genuine fun for cash. If it's unique enough, you will gain loyal followers wherever you go, and make serious money because you corner the market and they can't get their fix anywhere else of what you provide. I've seen girls make art on cam, give feminist lectures on cam... all fully, or mostly, clothed. And the tips are rolling in. Confidence is a big draw. Knowing who you are, and what you're good at, what you love to do. Sometimes, girls are in dirty clothes, very out of shape, laying around in bed talking about the errands they have to do today, looking like they haven't showered in a week, picking at their scabs on cam. They make good money, because they're confident, they have great personalities, they make people feel comfortable with themselves and that it's ok to not be perfect. Sometimes people just love being around someone they think wouldn't judge them if they knew them IRL. You never know what will bring you bank. There is no one single thing that works best, and chasing a trend doesn't work because trends are always shifting. It used to be very rare and special to find a beautiful girl who would penetrate herself on your command on cam. Now that is old and passe, too easy to find, and new cam girls who don't have a following yet are more successful doing something else. Only way to find out what works for you is to try, and build a fan base over time the thing you do that no one else does!


Seems to me like this was a serious question, so I'm guessing you, or a few other people who are curious here, don't mind the long answer!

My niche on the internet is wordiness! :)
 
Why does it matter? Sometimes I'll tip a model who's doing nothing but talking full clothed simply because I think they're pretty or I like the conversation. It depends on the tipper and what they're enjoying from the show. Not ALL of it has to do with pure sex.
 
Obviously she is doing everything right, because she has a lot of users and tokens. But i just don't understand why exactly people are tipping her. Can anybody of the Users explain this? I would like to understand why you would tip a model like this.

I'm mainly on MFC and am a pretty normal 'user.' I think I might tip a model like this (if it is the facebook model) if I actually have some sort of pm/talkative/relationship with her or have been following her for a while but otherwise I'm not sure I want to watch. I think she has some stuff on pornhub that is more graphic and that might have something to do with it but who knows? The pornhub stuff doesn't really have her looking like a teen with the looks as much as the facebook stuff does.

I tip for dumb stuff all the time: I've tipped 1000 to a fav just for modeling a dress and walking her room for 15 seconds just because it was awesome (I know it isn't that amazing, but, come on--and another guy matched me which was unexpected and cool for her!).

Models that spend too much time looking at their phone might get some sort of tip to try to get their attention so they might see the dumb stuff I was saying but it isn't easy to want to stick around (in my case). Not sure if other guys feel tipping larger amounts to get her attention might work. It seems complicated, but a look is sometimes enough for a dude to go crazy.
 
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Why does it matter? Sometimes I'll tip a model who's doing nothing but talking full clothed simply because I think they're pretty or I like the conversation. It depends on the tipper and what they're enjoying from the show. Not ALL of it has to do with pure sex.
I once completely baffled other members by suggesting they check out a non nude model I was frequenting at the time. I ended up having my masculinity questioned because I was tipping a non nude model. I found her because she was playing a computer game I had experience with and I came for the gameplay but stayed because I found her personality charming and engaging.

I tipped her for that interaction and not because I hoped to convince her to take her clothes off. She was nice and fun. I have good memories of that time so I consider it money well spent. There are many members that find that concept completely foreign so I've given up trying to explain it to them.

I'm old enough to remember squinting at scrambled cable channels as a young boy trying to see nudity. Now with the internet whatever you want to see takes only as long as typing it out into a search engine. There is so much available that it only makes sense to me that other factors than just a little skin would become important.

(I know this doesn't really apply to the OP's model -- I believe she is just fulfilling a fetish niche)
 
I once completely baffled other members by suggesting they check out a non nude model I was frequenting at the time. I ended up having my masculinity questioned because I was tipping a non nude model. I found her because she was playing a computer game I had experience with and I came for the gameplay but stayed because I found her personality charming and engaging.

I tipped her for that interaction and not because I hoped to convince her to take her clothes off. She was nice and fun. I have good memories of that time so I consider it money well spent. There are many members that find that concept completely foreign so I've given up trying to explain it to them.

I'm old enough to remember squinting at scrambled cable channels as a young boy trying to see nudity. Now with the internet whatever you want to see takes only as long as typing it out into a search engine. There is so much available that it only makes sense to me that other factors than just a little skin would become important.

(I know this doesn't really apply to the OP's model -- I believe she is just fulfilling a fetish niche)

One of my favorite models currently is a non nude model. I tip for the delightful conversation and just enjoying hanging out. I agree that anyone can tip for anything they want.
 
One of my favorite models currently is a non nude model. I tip for the delightful conversation and just enjoying hanging out. I agree that anyone can tip for anything they want.
Conversation, personality and some common interests is what keeps me coming back to a couple of my favorite models. But, don't let some of the models here read it. A couple don't think that we tip for chat time appropriately. :p
 
Why did you feel like tipping her? Maybe you don't know it yourself, then that's of course fine. My intention when making this topic was to learn for which reason anybody tips her. "Because i feel like it" is just way too unspecific to understand it.

A "just because" tip is exactly that... a member has chosen to tip just because he can, he likes the model... or something about her or her hustle. Now that indefinable "something" could simply be the way she smiles or talks, how she chats to her room, her accent or her general look, her demeanour... simple stuff. Nothing that requires her to get naked or even do anything sexual. Members will tip for such things as her music choices, conversation, time and attention from a model (as I have often done)... nothing remotely sexy required for that to happen. Filing it under the term "just because" is a catch all definition which can cover many things.

OP... I am thinking that you may need to widen your research somewhat considerably to get your own grasp on this. Let the search function here on the forum be your friend... and go sit in more rooms as a guest and observe. Don't judge... just observe.

Years ago, the first few visits I took to MFC main lounge :rolleyes: revealed to me that there is a certain mindset amongst some MFC members that only a model who is naked and performing sexy stuff in public chat could ever be rewarded with tips. Often you would see some individual spout off the common lounge dirge that... model xxxxxx had been seen on cam taking in mucho moolah for several hours and STILL not getting naked... so she must be a scammer!!! It was ludicrous... a view held by the stupid, narrow minded individuals who hid out in the lounges. It is the old and tiresome opinion of idiots who are predominantly cheapasses by nature. Calling out a camgirl by labelling her a scammer, when she has a successful hustle going that she is mining well and making good bank from, is simply misunderstanding how she works. Models can make very good bank without taking a stitch off in public... when they have the right hustle that members find appealing.

We have moved on from the early days of camming and nowadays most girls don't just leap on cam, naked as the day they were born, tweaking their nipples in a way that looks like they are trying to receive Radio Free Europe and pounding the living crap out of their twinkle cave with the biggest glass dildo they can buy! Well... not as many as there used to be. That was a generation ago. Camming has evolved. The landscape in 2018 is huge and diverse, with thousands of girls using many, many different techniques to get established, hone their performance and define their own unique "brands" in order to bring in members and increase revenue. Each girls individual performance is only one small tiny part of that very huge and diverse landscape... and one for which we, as members are truly thankful. :happy:

Thank you ladies. :clap:


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I tip for dumb stuff all the time:

Speaking of which..... I recently tipped a model to do armpit farts. If you say you're going to do something silly for 100 tokens, I'm going to throw said tokens at you.
 
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