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I guess it's kind of like in that breast implants thread.

When you announce something to your room, people are gonna chime in with their opinions and ramblings or whatever, even if you don't care for their opinion. I know it can be especially annoying when it's news that you're thrilled about, and someone's like "Are you serious?! Why the fuck would you do something like that?!" Tell them "Because I fucking wanted to...that's why." LOL.

Opinionated, outspoken people are always wanting to chime in with their two cents and personal opinions, which is normal in a chat room. What's NOT normal is scolding a model in her own damn chat room for her personal choices, and threatening to not visit her/tip her anymore. You don't need melodramatic people like that ruining the vibe of your room and ruining your mood.
 
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I don't see what the big deal is and if presented with the opportunity to fuck Ron Jeremy, I would too. I could be that guy at parties who has the story that blows everybody else's stories out the water...

"My band opened for Nirvana"
"I worked on the new James Bond film and my name appears in the credits"
"I'm personal friends with Morgan Freeman and he lets me use his summer house all the time"

"I fucked Ron Jeremy"


;)
 
The_Brown_Fox said:
I guess it's kind of like in that breast implants thread.

When you announce something to your room, people are gonna chime in with their opinions and ramblings or whatever, even if you don't care for their opinion. I know it can be especially annoying when it's news that you're thrilled about, and someone's like "Are you serious?! Why the fuck would you do something like that?!" Tell them "Because I fucking wanted to...that's why." LOL.

Opinionated, outspoken people are always wanting to chime in with their two cents and personal opinions, which is normal in a chat room. What's NOT normal is scolding a model in her own damn chat room for her personal choices, and threatening to not visit her/tip her anymore. You don't need melodramatic people like that ruining the vibe of your room and ruining your mood.
I guess what I was trying to get at is just that on screen, you're a kind of product or brand. Like any brand, there are things you could do that would make you look good or not so good in the eyes of consumers. The more beloved the brand the more effect actions will have. Having sex with someone would normally have 0 effect because you probably wouldn't mention it.

Some guys put camgirls on pedestals - we all know this. We can all talk about what a shame it is too, except we'd also have to talk about the money they spend being a shame as well, because they're a legitimate section of the consumer base for those girls that encourage them.

You can clock-off and have sex with whomever you please and not piss off your customers. Being public about it though can have consequences, obviously. Imagine Justin Bieber posted a video of himself on youtube blowing a 70 year old homeless guy in an alley (lol). He has every right to blow the dude and YEAH it's gonna affect his career lol.
 
Jupiter551 said:
Imagine Justin Bieber posted a video of himself on youtube blowing a 70 year old homeless guy in an alley (lol). He has every right to blow the dude and YEAH it's gonna affect his career lol.

When it emerged that Bieber had maybe smoked a bit of weed, some kids on twitter threatened to cut themselves because of it. I think the day I read that was the day I gave up on people :?
 
mynameisbob84 said:
Jupiter551 said:
Imagine Justin Bieber posted a video of himself on youtube blowing a 70 year old homeless guy in an alley (lol). He has every right to blow the dude and YEAH it's gonna affect his career lol.

When it emerged that Bieber had maybe smoked a bit of weed, some kids on twitter threatened to cut themselves because of it. I think the day I read that was the day I gave up on people :?
yeah my god, can you imagine the cutting?
 
The_Brown_Fox said:
SoTxBob said:
' First I was like... :eek: :clap: :thumbleft:

and then I was ... :( :lol: :lol:


LOL. He's a cutie, and I like the fact that he's noisy. I liked that scene he did with Ice, and had it bookmarked on my browser, but the video's been removed. Maybe Amazon has it? LOL.

And nothing to do with the fact that Peter North can walk on 3 Legs with the size of his schlong, right? :lol: :p

But, seriously, I remember pretty much watching any porno with Ron or Peter in it back in the day. They were pretty much the biggest male superstars, and Ron always gave me and guys who look like me hope. ;)
 
You know, I have had this big theory my whole life. Ugly people care more about looks than good looking people.

Everywhere I see it gets confirmed. Ugly guys chase after sexy girls all the time, ugly girls chase after sexy guys, when people who are already good looking aren't as bothered, they love their own looks, but when it comes to other peoples looks they're not that bothered. It's like when someone sees a pretty person going out with a really ugly person, it's always other ugly people who are horrible to the pretty person about it. Really I think it's because they know they can't get with the person, but they also know they're ugly, so they think them not being able to get with that person because of their looks/age/whatever, when really, they reason they're not fucking them is because they're boring, a douche, or just don't have anything attractive about them on the inside.

I think I'd quite possibly fuck Ron Jeremy. It's some SERIOUS bragging rights! And really, essentially a lot of girls have older man fetishes. Especially dirty older man. Since I was younger when I masturbated, I'd always think of the grossest, sleaziest guy I'd seen in ages, and get myself off. In reality I wouldn't let that person near me, but in imagination, it really turned me on! I asked my friends and they admitted to the exact same thing! I can get with a pretty boy whenever I want, but an old ugly dude? That's forbidden! Much sexier.

You may look at Ron Jeremy and think "ugh he's a dirty, ugly old sleazy man", but a girl who's found that idea of that sexy, well she has found the perfect fucking candidate for it! You're all perverts, god love you, but you are. He is a pervert too. Maybe behind your screens you're all as good looking as male versions of Nicole Riley, but chances are you aren't. Chances are these members who are getting pissed are as old and ugly as Ron himself. Difference with them is, they don't have a massive cock, a load of fame and generally quite a bit of sex appeal! Oh, and they havem't slept with Nicole! Surely they should feel happy that Nicole isn't as dam shallow as they are!

Nicole, if I ever meet you, I am going to give you about 10 high fives! I think this and you are awesome! You may have lost a few erections but you've gained my respect for this and how you've handled it :)
 
UncleThursday said:
The_Brown_Fox said:
SoTxBob said:
' First I was like... :eek: :clap: :thumbleft:

and then I was ... :( :lol: :lol:


LOL. He's a cutie, and I like the fact that he's noisy. I liked that scene he did with Ice, and had it bookmarked on my browser, but the video's been removed. Maybe Amazon has it? LOL.

And nothing to do with the fact that Peter North can walk on 3 Legs with the size of his schlong, right? :lol: :p

But, seriously, I remember pretty much watching any porno with Ron or Peter in it back in the day. They were pretty much the biggest male superstars, and Ron always gave me and guys who look like me hope. ;)

Yup Ron gave me hope also, o which is why I thought it was pretty cool that Nicole had sex with him. Now don't get me wrong since Nicole is so adorable Ron get the better end of the deal. But one of the the reason having a sex with pornstar is on my bucket list, is I figure unless they are total idiots, they probably are pretty good at sex, and could teach me a lot. So while have sex with 20 year old porn star would be higher on my list than 50 year old porn star, I wouldn't turn the chance for either.

In Ron's case he is hung like a horse, and I'm sure is extremely good at getting girls off. I figure he has forgotten more about sex than I and any six 20 years olds hunks ever learned. Plus if is as funny, and down to earth as he appears to be on interviews, and he is nice to the girls as they say, why not; you only live once.
 
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In my irritation/jumping to defend Nicole on who she sleeps with I completely missed out on Sinwithcyn's amazingly cute post!! Literally reading that got me so excited! Ginny Potter was the first model I ever watched! Because of that she'll always be a bit of an idol :) and Aspen's also definitely another favourite, I cannot imagine seeing them in real life!! Lol I think if I met Aedan though she'd just spend the whole time being hug raped! Was watching her from the expo! You're so awesome! Literally has got me so jealous/so wanting to meet you all! I've never been bothered with celebs, but I would go nuts if I saw any of you! I'm one of those really annoying, screaming whilst flapping my arms around running towards my friends every time I see them before we jump into each other's arms people.... I think I might be escorted out of the expo for overexcitement issues... lol
 
I think it depends the image you're intending to portray on cam, if we're just talking about personal preference and right to have sex with whomever you like - fuck yourself silly.

I'm not talking about Nicole because I've never seen her on cam or have any idea what her members are like, but when I think of some camgirls, and the guys that support them day in and day out, were they to suddenly and publicly (like as in known to everyone in the cam room) have random sex with Ron Jeremy would simply torpedo the reputation and relationship they'd built with their members day after day.

You can call those guys shallow and jealous but the simple fact is they're not interested in the kind of girl who just goes and fucks a celebrity for kicks - not every girl would and plenty of guys aren't attracted to that kind of behaviour. It's your body, but on cam it's their dime. So neither side should be throwing stones.

No excuse for making a scene or being rude to the girl or whatever - if you don't like something just move on.

Nicole (and all of us) can sleep with whoever they want, and likewise guys should be able to decide to no longer support someone who does things that we don't enjoy without being called shallow etc.
 
Isabella_deL said:
You may look at Ron Jeremy and think "ugh he's a dirty, ugly old sleazy man",

I lok at Ron and I remember that him and one of my friend's dad looked almost identical. I remember we were going to make a joke website about it with a picture of his dad, a picture of Ron and my friend with a huge smile on his face and 2 thumbs up with fake facts about his dad and Ron, including 'both claim XXXXXXXX as his son.' :lol:
 
Jupiter551 said:
You can call those guys shallow and jealous but the simple fact is they're not interested in the kind of girl who just goes and fucks a celebrity for kicks - not every girl would and plenty of guys aren't attracted to that kind of behaviour. It's your body, but on cam it's their dime. So neither side should be throwing stones.

But, at the same time, we have to remember that pretty much every single guy would do the exact same thing if given half the chance with some hot porn star or celebrity.

If Jenna Jameson in her prime, Teagan Presley, Mia Rose, Brianna Banks, Bree Olsen, Courtney Cumms or some other porn star, or hell, even certain cam models were to offer themselves up for a quickie, those same guys saying it's disgusting any of the cam mansion girls fucked Ron would gladly give their left nut to have that same opportunity with the one of those girls. And they'd brag about it whenever they could. And the members chastising the girls Ron did would be high-fiving them and saying 'right on bro!' and 'you lucky son of a bitch!' or 'did you give it to her hard?' and 'did she let you cum on her face?' etc.

If someone like Jessica Biel or Scarlett Johanson, some hot porn star, or certain cam models walked up to me and said 'wanna fuck right now?' I know for sure my pants would be off in less than half a second. And any straight or semi-straight male who says they wouldn't jump at that opportunity is lying through their teeth.

It's all about double standards, though. Men have them towards women. Women have them towards men.

There's one of the biggest ones that's pretty easy to show:

If a woman has slept with 50+ guys, she's a whore/slut. If a man has slept with 50+ women, he's a stud.

Maybe knowing a cam mansion girl banged Ron ruins some fantasy the members have about said model. Big deal. The cam models are giving us their cam personas 99% of the time. Even if their cam persona is very close to their actual persona, it's still not going to be 100% what they truly are. Its sex work, and the girls and guys working cam sites are doing it for the income. I'm sure there are models who are far more open about things on cam than they ever would be in person. There are models who are far more pervy and sexually discovering themselves while on cam than they ever would be willing to do off cam.

Even members can be completely different than they might be in real life. We see it every day with the guys who just blurt out the stupidest shit, like what can be seen in the things members say that make you go WTF thread. I truly doubt any of them would ever say anything remotely similar to a girl IRL. In fact, they're probably too scared to even talk to girls IRL.

Even I am different than how I see myself.

Apparently I'm far funnier in chat rooms, and far more interesting to talk to than I feel I am in person. I'm also someone girls like to watch being normal and what I feel boring when I'm on MFC and other such; which I never feel in real life. And, apparently, I'm someone that specific masochistic (and obviously blind) models try to sometimes get naked and other such when I'm on MFC. :p

But, that's the thing about online. Even if you can see the other person while talking to them. There's still a level of anonymity that allows you to be someone slightly different than yourself. You can be more confident, sexually promiscuous, funnier, etc. than you might otherwise feel normally. We all have our fantasies about the people we talk to, fantasies about how they might be IRL. But, we all pretty much never live up to those fantasies in the real world.

I've never visited Nicole's room before. I don't know how she is on cam. All I have to go on is her profile, which says, yes, she's hot. But, if I ever go to her room, and she has a T-shirt on that says "I fucked Ron Jeremy and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"... I am not only going to high five her, I'm going to ask if I can join that T-shirt club. ;)
 
UncleThursday said:
And the members chastising the girls Ron did would be high-fiving them and saying 'right on bro!' and 'you lucky son of a bitch!' or 'did you give it to her hard?' and 'did she let you cum on her face?' etc.
Yeah well I don't think there should be any chastisement on either side, but I'm also not surprised in the slightest that it would turn some guys off.

And yeah it's totally sex work, so it really shouldn't be that much of a shock to some of them but you KNOW a lot of guys on MFC put girls on some kind of ridiculous pedestal.

Extreme example: Shyutza at her non-nude popularity height. What do you think half her regulars would have done if she had gone to a convention and fucked Ron Jeremy? She's an extreme but also kind of prime example because I think it absolutely would have had a HUGE and immediate effect on her camming career.
 
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Nordling said:
:lol: Plus I don't see how one can compare having sex with Scarlett Johansson with having sex with Ron Jeremy. How about Kathy Bates, e.g.? Or Roseanne Barr? lol
rofl!!
 
Nordling said:
:lol: Plus I don't see how one can compare having sex with Scarlett Johansson with having sex with Ron Jeremy. How about Kathy Bates, e.g.? Or Roseanne Barr? lol

Damn Nord !! Thats over the line now.. I was all ready to have this nice omelette and now, not the least bit hungry... :snooty: :lol:
 
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SoTxBob said:
Damn Nord !! Thats over the line now.. I was all ready to have this nice omelette and now, not the least bit hungry... :snooty: :lol:

Don't lose your appetite! An omelette (omelet? I saw 2 spellings for it online) sounds pretty good!

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Nordling said:
:lol: Plus I don't see how one can compare having sex with Scarlett Johansson with having sex with Ron Jeremy. How about Kathy Bates, e.g.? Or Roseanne Barr? lol

This is what I was saying though, it's not all about bloody looks! If this famous dude Nicole fucked were some young fitty with a 6 pack I bet there's be jealousy, but no one would say shit! Why on earth are guys so bloody shallow? You don't have to fuck Ron Jeremy, you're not even going to fuck Nicole. She never made out she was some virginal saint. In fact, she's a fucking cam girl! Not saying we're all whores, or that Nicole is one either, but we are probably going to be a hell of a lot more sexually open than most people. We.take.our.clothes.off.for.money....get.over.it!

I remember having a conversation with a few guys about bragging rights and who they'd fuck for them. Many openly admitted that they'd probably fuck the queen. She's a woman in her 80s... but it would be an interesting tale to tell!

It's not even about having no standards, I bet Nicole had her pick of any guys around to fuck that night. She could have fucked the pretty boys with their 6 packs, but no, she chose to go for someone who she found sexually attractive in a way above looks. Whether part of that attraction was because of his fame and success then that's just part of nature. Anyone noticed that women naturally go for strong/powerful/successful men? Well power is no longer in the 6 pack. Women in general don't sleep with men for money, but they're often attracted to men who have it. It's nothing to do with us being greedy bitches, it's to do with nature. Just like men are naturally shallow. You go for women for looks because it provides good genes. We go for inner and outer strength/power for protection and genetics. I don't have a massive go at every guy who comes up to me and says I'm beautiful/have amazing boobs/make them feel really bad for wanting me. I'd love it if men would give women the same respect.
 
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Isabella_deL said:
Nordling said:
:lol: Plus I don't see how one can compare having sex with Scarlett Johansson with having sex with Ron Jeremy. How about Kathy Bates, e.g.? Or Roseanne Barr? lol

This is what I was saying though, it's not all about bloody looks! If this famous dude Nicole fucked were some young fitty with a 6 pack I bet there's be jealousy, but no one would say shit! Why on earth are guys so bloody shallow? You don't have to fuck Ron Jeremy, you're not even going to fuck Nicole. She never made out she was some virginal saint. In fact, she's a fucking cam girl! Not saying we're all whores, or that Nicole is one either, but we are probably going to be a hell of a lot more sexually open than most people. We.take.our.clothes.off.for.money....get.over.it!

I remember having a conversation with a few guys about bragging rights and who they'd fuck for them. Many openly admitted that they'd probably fuck the queen. She's a woman in her 80s... but it would be an interesting tale to tell!

It's not even about having no standards, I bet Nicole had her pick of any guys around to fuck that night. She could have fucked the pretty boys with their 6 packs, but no, she chose to go for someone who she found sexually attractive in a way above looks. Whether part of that attraction was because of his fame and success then that's just part of nature. Anyone noticed that women naturally go for strong/powerful/successful men? Well power is no longer in the 6 pack. Women in general don't sleep with men for money, but they're often attracted to men who have it. It's nothing to do with us being greedy bitches, it's to do with nature. Just like men are naturally shallow. You go for women for looks because it provides good genes. We go for inner and outer strength/power for protection and genetics. I don't have a massive go at every guy who comes up to me and says I'm beautiful/have amazing boobs/make them feel really bad for wanting me. I'd love it if men would give women the same respect.

The Queen? Seriously? Ew, no thanks.

Even if I thought some guys were creeped out over this because of looks - and I don't think they are - how exactly is it any more shallow to be concerned with someone's looks than with their fame or money or power? By your definition a 20 year old nurse who marries her 90 year old patient is totally not shallow, even if she's doing it for the money he's going to leave when he drops dead - (hey she's just attacted to his ability to make money then drop dead man, she's not so shallow as to care that he looks like a wizened mummy!).

So wait, lemme just get my head around this, if a guy goes for a woman because of her looks he's shallow (nevermind that a large number of women preselect mates based on looks too), but if a woman is attracted to a guy cos he's rich that's not shallow, it's just nature?
 
Jupiter551 said:
You can clock-off and have sex with whomever you please and not piss off your customers. Being public about it though can have consequences, obviously.

Yup, and that's why I had posted this earlier:

The_Brown_Fox said:
When you announce something to your room, people are gonna chime in with their opinions and ramblings or whatever, even if you don't care for their opinion.
 
Let us not over generalize here. Nicole has almost 3,000 follower on twitter. Exactly one guy raised a big stink on twitter and a couple in her room while she was camming at the mansion. Could have been more I didn't get a chance to watch much of her show at the mansion :(. She has had a several male supporters on ACF and a few on twitter along with the typical support of her fellow models.

As Jupiter said models are free to have sex with who they want and members are free tip or not tip and we should not be overly critical of their choices.
 
Isabella_deL said:
Nordling said:
I remember having a conversation with a few guys about bragging rights and who they'd fuck for them. Many openly admitted that they'd probably fuck the queen. She's a woman in her 80s... but it would be an interesting tale to tell!

Why not? She's got power, and who wouldn't want to be the person at the party that gets to say "Yeah, well, I fucked the Queen of England."

Obviously, if Charles dies before becoming King and William ascends the throne, you KNOW people are going to be wanting to fuck Kate Middleton to be able to say they fucked her. ;)

Or her sister... Pippa is pretty hot too. :p
 
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HiGirlsRHot said:
Let us not over generalize here.

Also, it's probably best not to second guess why a cam girl fucked a dood when that cam girl is a poster here. If she wanted us to know what ultimately lead to her deciding to do the no pants dance with Ron Jeremy she probably would have told us by now, yo :)
 
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Jupiter551 said:
By your definition a 20 year old nurse who marries her 90 year old patient is totally not shallow, even if she's doing it for the money he's going to leave when he drops dead - (hey she's just attacted to his ability to make money then drop dead man, she's not so shallow as to care that he looks like a wizened mummy!).

So wait, lemme just get my head around this, if a guy goes for a woman because of her looks he's shallow (nevermind that a large number of women preselect mates based on looks too), but if a woman is attracted to a guy cos he's rich that's not shallow, it's just nature?

You completely missed my point. My point is the woman isn't with the guy because he'll leave her money, or because she gives a crap about his money or possessions he might buy her. It's that people who are successful/good at something are attractive. To become rich/be famous you generally have to be good at something. People who are popular/likeable/centre of attention are also attractive, girls like someone who other girls like/go for, men are the same in this, it's our nature. To be famous generally you have to be likeable to a lot of people, this is a very attractive thing. Sleeping with this guy won't make YOU famous. Sleeping with a rich guy doesn't mean I'm going to get all their riches. I like paying my own way, when I date guys I'm more likely to take them out for dinner than they are for me, but I also like dating guys who have money/are successful and comfortable within themselves. It's not the physical thing on the outside, it's what that represents about the person on the inside.

What I'm saying is it's not a "oh my god, I'm going to sleep with someone famous because it makes me so cool/gives me so much personal gain" it's "oh my god, this person is so good at what he does and so liked that I find him really attractive and would really like to spend the night with him"

You know what, if someone I knew were really happy about having done something/gone out with someone, something/someone I thought was awful, well, why on earth would I make them feel bad about it because of my personal feelings on it? If she/he's happy their their decision then great! That's all that matters.

And yes... The Queen... Although I'd have different reasons for being angry at someone fucking the Queen and bragging... She's like Englands sweet old grandmother that you never go visit but like having around at a distance...
But yeah, interesting choice...
 
I don't really think there's a lot of disagreement here. It's just different ways of saying the same thing.

And yeah, even if the Queen were still in her 20s, I personally would not want to know her in the Biblical sense. A combination of respect and a desire to protect my privacy. :)

I too don't think anyone should be given a load of crap for who they choose to sleep with. Meanwhile I maintain the right to quietly be grossed out by some choices. lol
 
Isabella_deL said:
It's not the physical thing on the outside, it's what that represents about the person on the inside.

What I'm saying is it's not a "oh my god, I'm going to sleep with someone famous because it makes me so cool/gives me so much personal gain" it's "oh my god, this person is so good at what he does and so liked that I find him really attractive and would really like to spend the night with him"
I still don't see how that's substantially different than "oh my god, this person is so good at what he does looking and so liked lusted after that I find him really attractive and would really like to spend the night with him".

They're principally exactly the same. Are you saying it's because you're attracted to a physical manifestation of what's inside them that makes it less shallow? That's a hell of a reach but okay, famous and rich people have as large a range of faults, motivations and personality types as good looking people (or anyone else). So you're making an appearance-based judgement call (the appearance of what you believe is a physical manifestation of their inner selves: their talent or ability or whatever). It's nothing more than an assumption. Hitler was liked, and he was certainly powerful, does that mean there was something magically attractive inside him?
 
mynameisbob84 said:
Sinwithcyn said:
I went for the first time - and boy there is so much to do even if you don't watch porn!

Compleeeeeeetely off topic but are you aware the link in your sig doesn't link to your MFC profile. I may or may not be interested in adding you to my friends list so I can easily perv on you next time we're both on MFC :)

EDIT: By "perv", I mean "come say hi". I fear the close proximity of the word "perv" and that :) smiley face are giving off a lecherous vibe :?

whoopsy!

its cynclaire now. i changed it right before the mansion.
 
Jupiter551 said:
Are you saying it's because you're attracted to a physical manifestation of what's inside them that makes it less shallow?

That is exactly what I'm saying.

How on earth are you meant to know what a person is like on the inside if not for things they show on the outside? Those things come from body language, talents, success, lack of success, interests, hobbies, ambitions etc. You're judging someone's personality for what they show on the outside that isn't actually physical. Completely different from judging someone on how they look physically (not considering clothes/make up/workout patterns), which is purely genetic and says nothing about the actual person. I actually don't see how you think these two things could be the same. If they are then you might as well say that someone going out with the ugliest yet nicest person in the world is actually completely shallow, because she noticed he's nice from what he said on the outside...
Everyone's attracted to different things, but yes I think people who judge more on the person on the inside than what's on the outside are less shallow. There are plenty of physical things in the world that show a lot about the person. A beautiful face shows very little. A self made successful person shows a lot.
 
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