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This is very sad, I can't imagine what the families and friends are going through trying to come to terms with this senseless, disgusting act.

Thankyou for not making this a soapbox for gun control/gun rights - victims and their families deserve better than that.
 
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Situations like this highlight the need for exit strategies in emergency situations. I wonder how many of the victims panicked and ran or if they tried to employ critical thinking to find a safer way out. Just makes you think about how you would exit a situation like this and if it's even possible to do so safely. :think:
 
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NoelleBright said:
This is so sad. :crybaby:

I'm very confused as to why he trip-wired his entire apartment and went through the trouble to lay down what I understand are some pretty complex booby traps but then warned the police about it during his arrest. He no doubt prevented countless other injuries and fatalities by tipping them off to it, but it just seems so weird that he would. Obviously this guy had no respect for the safety and lives of others, I really doubt that he was hit by a sudden pang of regret.


I doubt he expected to live. Once he did, he would start calculating the best course for his future. Giving up the traps displays will make him look better now that he will need to go through the legal system.
 
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Crazy is just Crazy. This x-med school student's psychotic tendencies were obviously missed by the professionals that taught him. Can't wait to hear the media portray this issue.

Being a parent, I do not understand how children and teens (let alone a 3 month old) were at a midnight opening. I am aware that this could have happened at anytime of the showing. But, it didn't and nothing good happens after midnight. Keep your kids close to you, love them, and be an overprotective parent. It is better to hear your child whine, then having to mourn them in a senseless tragedy.

My thoughts and prayers go out to these families and everyone else that is effected by this tragedy.
 
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I hope those involved seek therapy ASAP. There's going to be a lot of PTSD and survivor's guilt.
blackxrose said:
Situations like this highlight the need for exit strategies in emergency situations. I wonder how many of the victims panicked and ran or if they tried to employ critical thinking to find a safer way out. Just makes you think about how you would exit a situation like this and if it's even possible to do so safely. :think:
Unless you were very close to an exit or in danger of being trampled, playing dead would have probably been the best solution. Crazed killers rarely go around shooting people presumed dead or not a threat.
 
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Does anyone know if he ever said why? Or is that not released to the public yet?

My heart goes out to every single person in that theater. Such a terrible, hateful crime.
 
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AllisonWilder said:
Does anyone know if he ever said why? Or is that not released to the public yet?

He reportedly clammed/lawyered up right after telling the police about his apt. being booby trapped. Being a neuroscience grad student, knowing what he does about psychiatric illnesses... it's possible he may be going with some sort of insanity plea.
 
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AllisonWilder said:
Does anyone know if he ever said why? Or is that not released to the public yet?

My heart goes out to every single person in that theater. Such a terrible, hateful crime.

I was watching the news about an hour ago and he had started calling himself the the Joker. Apparently he was dropped out of his PHD program and decided to become a super villain instead. I guess he wanted to spread chaos.
 
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Shaun__ said:
AllisonWilder said:
Does anyone know if he ever said why? Or is that not released to the public yet?

My heart goes out to every single person in that theater. Such a terrible, hateful crime.

I was watching the news about an hour ago and he had started calling himself the the Joker. Apparently he was dropped out of his PHD program and decided to become a super villain instead. I guess he wanted to spread chaos.
Which to me is the definition of insanity--losing a hold on reality. Not in any way forgiving him, homicidal maniacs should be put away for life.
 
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Nordling said:
Which to me is the definition of insanity--losing a hold on reality. Not in any way forgiving him, homicidal maniacs should be put away for life.

All of that is just the news guessing stuff right now, it could turn out he likes calling himself joker because of Mass Effect or the world series of poker.
 
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From Andy Borowitz's Facebook today:

"Dear Internet People: Maybe choose another day to make pro-gun statements. Sincerely, Good Taste"
 
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CallMeWilliam said:
I agree with everything the psychologist says near the end of the clip. The media has more to do with perpetuating this kind of behavior than they care to believe.



As well I also feel that the average person does not need to own fully automatic weapon nor a shotgun/rifle (unless the use is for hunting).

:twocents-02cents:


The end of this video is spot on. There is no reason to give so much coverage to a tragedy of this sort. The killers are wanting the attention and hoping for some fragment of immortality by doing things like this so publicly.
 
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Shaun__ said:
Apparently he was dropped out of his PHD program and decided to become a super villain instead. I guess he wanted to spread chaos.

He wasn't dropped, he voluntarily withdrew last month for some reason. Up until he left, he was an honor student in a difficult field and one of the best & brightest according to his professors.

ETA: I agree the media should stop posting his damn picture with every new update or segment.
 
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Nordling said:
Disgusting, horrific--terrible. But coming close (in my mind) to the sheer horror of this event are those in high places who take the opportunity to spew nonsense. I do hope Texans get rid of Louie Gohmert. He doesn't deserve to be a dog catcher.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/louie-gohmert-aurora-shootings_n_1689099.html?
I don't think I've agreed with anything that man has ever said, and the fact that he actually got elected, more than once, is horrible in and of itself.
 
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I saw at least two camgirls with joker/batman themed apparel in the last couple hours - I know they certainly aren't intending to make any kind of statement about this shooting but...it just seems a really odd day to go batman theme, all things considered.

Someecards newsletter also came out today with a section of ecards about the batman movie...by the time I clicked the section was empty I'm guessing they took it down which somehow doesn't surprise me.
 
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It's no reason to stop doing what you are going to do because of what happened. It's like when after 9/11 happened here and people were on tv asking "Will we ever be able to laugh again?" Sorry, but while how horrific such an event is and my thoughts and well wishes go out to their family and friends and loved ones- I am not going to alter my every day life because of it.
 
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Jupiter551 said:
I saw at least two camgirls with joker/batman themed apparel in the last couple hours - I know they certainly aren't intending to make any kind of statement about this shooting but...it just seems a really odd day to go batman theme, all things considered.

Someecards newsletter also came out today with a section of ecards about the batman movie...by the time I clicked the section was empty I'm guessing they took it down which somehow doesn't surprise me.

I haven't seen any girls dressed like that, but it could be possible that they just don't know yet. Without this forum, I wouldn't have known for days. I never watch the news and only read the newspaper on Sunday. While it seems so crazy that people are so ill-informed, it does happen.
 
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Jupiter551 said:
I saw at least two camgirls with joker/batman themed apparel in the last couple hours - I know they certainly aren't intending to make any kind of statement about this shooting but...it just seems a really odd day to go batman theme, all things considered.

Someecards newsletter also came out today with a section of ecards about the batman movie...by the time I clicked the section was empty I'm guessing they took it down which somehow doesn't surprise me.

I see changing what you already had planned (which I assume these girls preplanned their outfits for the release) as letting the psychopath who did this win. You're letting him change something you wanted to celebrate just because he tainted it severely? Hell fucking no. It's very, very sad people lost their lives, but changing something you wanted to do to celebrate a movie coming out just because he did what he did is in a way glorifying it. It's saying he has accomplished something with such a disgusting, senseless act of violence.
 
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FrankieChemical said:
Jupiter551 said:
I saw at least two camgirls with joker/batman themed apparel in the last couple hours - I know they certainly aren't intending to make any kind of statement about this shooting but...it just seems a really odd day to go batman theme, all things considered.

Someecards newsletter also came out today with a section of ecards about the batman movie...by the time I clicked the section was empty I'm guessing they took it down which somehow doesn't surprise me.

I see changing what you already had planned (which I assume these girls preplanned their outfits for the release) as letting the psychopath who did this win. You're letting him change something you wanted to celebrate just because he tainted it severely? Hell fucking no. It's very, very sad people lost their lives, but changing something you wanted to do to celebrate a movie coming out just because he did what he did is in a way glorifying it. It's saying he has accomplished something with such a disgusting, senseless act of violence.

Sure, and personally I don't disagree with doing what you'd already planned, or reading a batman comic, or going to see the movie etc, or see it as insensitive, but people should be aware that SOME people will, especially only hours later.
 
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Nordling said:
From Andy Borowitz's Facebook today:

"Dear Internet People: Maybe choose another day to make pro-gun statements. Sincerely, Good Taste"

Pro-gun, anti-gun or any statement (like the people attacking the man who ran out of the theater and left his wife and children inside) that goes beyond sympathy for the victims really shouldn't be made.

As always happens with tragedies, people pull out the soapboxes and start to make the event about themselves. Pushing their political agenda or trying to outdo each other with how such an event could have happened to them as they try to bizarrely interject themselves into the story. The story is about the victims and no one else.
 
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Thank you for creating this thread, or I would've never known that it happened, or that the new batman movie was out.

My heart goes out to the victims. Have there been any deaths? I'm hoping they all survive, unless it means a life full of pain...
 
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LadyLuna said:
Thank you for creating this thread, or I would've never known that it happened, or that the new batman movie was out.

My heart goes out to the victims. Have there been any deaths? I'm hoping they all survive, unless it means a life full of pain...

Last I heard there were 12 deaths. Such a tragedy.
 
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I can not express how much I dislike these buffets of thickly frosted, nut clustered, shit, the media rushes to throw together always and completely for every such event. It is only slightly less disgusting than the eager diner, drooling like some huge ravenous Pavlovian Rottweiler, that be the force dictating the servers action. We gobble it down, and claw for more. Obsess, bubble headed, brain washed bitches, all of us.

Adjectives like horrific, horrifying, appalling, gruesome, atrocious, hideous, horrendous, are always applied, but all of these are less applicable to these shock inducing events than they are to those scores of sad, unnoticed, denied, social tragedies that take place around us every day, and twice in poor neighborhoods. They are hard to reckon with, complicated beyond the ability of the the sound bite and 24 hour news to even marginally convey, or, is it beyond our diminished ADHD capacity and will to comprehend.

This one solves easy, - we kill one crazy fuck and have our vicarious vengeance. And the world continues to spin oblivious to our existence, and stupidity, no less fucked up than before.

Dramatic, the adjective most suiting, tho I have yet to hear it uttered.
(I bet it has been, I just sorta tuned out early.)
 
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P.S. I don't want to appear unsympathetic. Of course all the adjectives I listed are being felt in unimaginable degree by those directly involved, and sadly will be for ever more.

I do not need or like the media POM POMing of it, to invoke any deep heart break to think of this awfulness. (sad/crying smiley does not work here. I send a tear.)
 
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AllisonWilder said:
Jupiter551 said:
I saw at least two camgirls with joker/batman themed apparel in the last couple hours - I know they certainly aren't intending to make any kind of statement about this shooting but...it just seems a really odd day to go batman theme, all things considered.

Someecards newsletter also came out today with a section of ecards about the batman movie...by the time I clicked the section was empty I'm guessing they took it down which somehow doesn't surprise me.

I haven't seen any girls dressed like that, but it could be possible that they just don't know yet. Without this forum, I wouldn't have known for days. I never watch the news and only read the newspaper on Sunday. While it seems so crazy that people are so ill-informed, it does happen.
And, I truly hope that is the case. I don't want to think anyone would knowingly throw shit at this pain.
 
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SweepTheLeg said:
If those same people have the ability to go on the internet to masturbate to a girl on cam, they don't get to feel what the girl is doing is in poor taste.
I had only considered someone choosing to batman up as a reply and not a preplanned event. Very nearsighted of me. I believe more than 100% if possible, that the terrorized, run screaming primal fuck you screams through gnashed teeth, directly toward their terrorizer. Yet, I wounder if I might not just call in sick and sad, with a notice of a newly secluded, "Fuck you, you insane piece of shit" show for a few days later. :idk

I Quoted here b/c I am not sure which appalls me more, - A Model theme dressing in response, or some one who could masturbate to her.
 
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A humble question, but if a massacre such as this is not the right time to bring up the discussion about current gun control- when is the right time?
 
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SweepTheLeg said:
A humble question, but if a massacre such as this is not the right time to bring up the discussion about current gun control- when is the right time?

It's all ready been discussed and debated on this forum. I don't anticipate any new debaters or new ideas, but if you want to reopen the debate rehashing how evil guns are and what has been previously said... a couple weeks from now would probably be fine in a new thread.
 
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