Will piracy on tube sites kill the porn Industry?

[KadinHarper]

I don't think it is killing the porn industry. I think there is power play in paying for your porn that won't go away no matter how much free porn is available.

 

[QuietLurker69]

Tube sites have horrible resolution.


I think people will always want to pay for the more immersive experience getting directly from the company can provide.

I do think that larger companies are probably losing a lot of money to tubing sites, in the same way that the music industry is losing money to streaming.
I think through for individual models and actors. The internet also provides numerous new ways to promote and generate revenues. Go to almost any pornstars twitter page, and you'll probably see her providing services that expand much further than porn.

For example I have seen a lot of models heavily advertise their club appearances. Services like in person experiences can never be replicated on the internet in it's current form. So that is one way porn actors have been able to diverse their income stream.

Also Camsites are a new part of the porn industry. I don't have exact numbers but it is likely that this part has expanded and will keep expanding for the immediate future.

Result is that the porn industry will willingly or be forced to adapt to the changing market like every other entertainment industry

 

[Guy]

Tube sites have horrible resolution.

I think people will always want to pay for the more immersive experience getting directly from the company can provide.

I do think that larger companies are probably losing a lot of money to tubing sites, in the same way that the music industry is losing money to streaming.
I think through for individual models and actors. The internet also provides numerous new ways to promote and generate revenues. Go to almost any pornstars twitter page, and you'll probably see her providing services that expand much further than porn.

Services like in person experiences can never be replicated on the internet in it's current form. So that is one way porn actors have been able to diverse their income stream.

There is an adult dvd store around corner from my apartment and I never see anyone go in there or out of there. I bet its because of those tube sites.

 

[QuietLurker69]

There is an adult dvd store around corner from my apartment and I never see anyone go in there or out of there.

The Fucks a DVD

By directly from the company I meant via subscriptions to sites like bangbros or etc

Who wants to be the creepy guy walking to buy porn at a shop. When you can get a 10-30 dollar subscription, and get access to 1000 of HD videos

 

[AmberCutie]

The Fucks a DVD

By directly from the company I meant via subscriptions to sites like bangbros or etc

Who wants to be the creepy guy walking to buy porn at a shop. When you can get a 10-30 dollar subscription, and get access to 1000 of HD videos

The days of brick and mortar porn stores have been declining/doomed for over a decade. I don't know why anyone would be surprised at the lack of them/activity at them these days.

 

[David_Lee_Loca]

Oh man, last year when I had a couple months without a laptop, I was that lone creep renting porn DVDs.

 

[Guy]

Oh man, last year when I had a couple months without a laptop, I was that lone creep renting porn DVDs.

What happened to the laptop?

 

[David_Lee_Loca]

Was living with my boyfriend at the time and shared a laptop. Since he paid for it, he kept it after breaking up.

 

[fandango]

There is an adult dvd store around corner from my apartment and I never see anyone go in there or out of there. I bet its because of those tube sites.

Its kinda like expecting people to still use a Blockbuster store, if they were still in business, just not gonna happen these days.


... and also just how many hours of the day do you spend watching the entrance to this DVD store?

 

[Guy]

The days of brick and mortar porn stores have been declining/doomed for over a decade. I don't know why anyone would be surprised at the lack of them/activity at them these days.

Why are

Its kinda like expecting people to still use a Blockbuster store, if they were still in business, just not gonna happen these days.


... and also just how many hours of the day do you spend watching the entrance to this DVD store?

I pass there every time go to and from work, go to the mall, go out to eat, and go on walks. I pass it everyday. Never see anyone go in it or come out of it. The people who shop there must come there really late at night.

 

[yummybrownfox]

Oh man, last year when I had a couple months without a laptop, I was that lone creep renting porn DVDs.

If you're ever in a situation again where you're without a laptop (which absolutely sucks), consider renting one from Rent-A-Center. When my son had damaged the screen of a previous laptop, and I had to give it to someone for repair, I rented a brand new Toshiba laptop from Rent-A-Center for only $65 (but I think that was back in like 2010 or something...can't remember). That price was to rent it for two weeks, AND they dropped it off to me at home for free and picked it up on the due date for free (a huge plus for me since I don't drive). The laptop was so nice that I remember getting a little sad when it was due back. Haha.
But the nice thing about it is that I was able to continue camming while waiting for my own laptop to be repaired.

 

[LuckySmiles]

Tube sites have horrible resolution.


I think people will always want to pay for the more immersive experience getting directly from the company can provide.

I do think that larger companies are probably losing a lot of money to tubing sites, in the same way that the music industry is losing money to streaming.
I think through for individual models and actors. The internet also provides numerous new ways to promote and generate revenues. Go to almost any pornstars twitter page, and you'll probably see her providing services that expand much further than porn.

For example I have seen a lot of models heavily advertise their club appearances. Services like in person experiences can never be replicated on the internet in it's current form. So that is one way porn actors have been able to diverse their income stream.

Also Camsites are a new part of the porn industry. I don't have exact numbers but it is likely that this part has expanded and will keep expanding for the immediate future.

Result is that the porn industry will willingly or be forced to adapt to the changing market like every other entertainment industry

Same brain thoughts on this whole post. Not only is the resolution terrible on tubesites the videos tend to be cut up or missing some of the best parts. What it does do though, is give you an idea of what or who you like so you can find more that you'd like to pay for.

The porn industry has changed in the way a small town girl can go and be 90's super famous and make a ton of money right away and be intevriewed on howard stern and be semi hollywood famous all that. (I remember always seeing those interviews on E! when other adults were watching them and I was 10 years old haha)

But it's also evolved into a way where the average little miss/mr nobody has the technology and ability to make, produce and profit from pornography. None of it's ruining porn, it's just changing it. If anything there's been an increase in variety and creativity.

 

[LoonaVision]

when I studied psychology, professor told us something I will remember forever.
There are smart people, there are stupid people, there are masters, there are slaves.
But if all people are smart, who will be a slave?
The goal of smart society is to have enough of stupid people to make them slaves.
But how to make people become slaves?
Drinking, gambling, and sex aka porn.
The more people drink, gamble and watch porn the more they degrade.
Degraded people are slaves.
This is why they invented free porn.
Young 13 years old boys can easily access porn sites nowadays just by clicking button they are over 18, that's easy to do. So they start to degrade from a very young age and by the age of 25 they are ready to become a slave and do nasty jobs masters don't want to do.
I don't think free porn sites kill the webcam business, I think they kill brain.

 

[LuckySmiles]

I don't think free porn sites kill the webcam business, I think they kill brain.

This is the kind of teaching and mentality that removes the personal responsibility of individuals.

Yes, sex, drugs, money, can be addictive vices. Does that mean you can't enjoy a drink without being an alcoholic? Or watch porn without being a sex addict? Or take a trip to a casino without gambling away a house? Come on now.

Should little kids learn their sexuality solely through porn? No. But that's the responsibility of parents and individuals to educate them on sex and not raising easily manipulated minions. There's tons of money in drugs, sex, and gambling. That's why these things don't go away, but they're also fun and perfectly fine when used responsibly.

The idea that free porn is ruining people... ugh. That's the type of thinking that prompts further restrictions and regulations that DO destroy free enterprise, business and creates actual monopolies. Not the made up monopolies people think there are now.

There's nothing legally or in society stopping @AmberCutie from turning this forum into a platform for a paid site for amber&friendstreamlive if she wanted to. (She just likely and understandably has no reason to want to)

There are no monopolies in porn. If you think there are now and want to ban free porn in order to “PLEASE SAVE THE CHILDREN” then you'll see the rise of actual monopolies.

 

[Sevrin]

when I studied psychology, professor told us something I will remember forever.
There are smart people, there are stupid people, there are masters, there are slaves.
But if all people are smart, who will be a slave?
The goal of smart society is to have enough of stupid people to make them slaves.
But how to make people become slaves?
Drinking, gambling, and sex aka porn.
The more people drink, gamble and watch porn the more they degrade.
Degraded people are slaves.
This is why they invented free porn.
Young 13 years old boys can easily access porn sites nowadays just by clicking button they are over 18, that's easy to do. So they start to degrade from a very young age and by the age of 25 they are ready to become a slave and do nasty jobs masters don't want to do.
I don't think free porn sites kill the webcam business, I think they kill brain.

George Orwell was thinking along the same lines in Nineteen Eighty-Four, when he described prolefeed.

And the Ministry had not only to supply the multifarious needs of the party, but also to repeat the whole operation at a lower level for the benefit of the proletariat. There was a whole chain of separate departments dealing with proletarian literature, music, drama, and entertainment generally. Here were produced rubbishy newspapers containing almost nothing except sport,crime and astrology, sensational five-cent novelettes,films oozing with sex, and sentimental songs which were composed entirely by mechanical means on a special kind of kaleidoscope known as a versificator. There was even a whole sub-section—Pornosec, it was called in Newspeak—engaged in producing the lowest kind of pornography, which was sent out in sealed packets and which no Party member, other than those who worked on it, was permitted to look at.

 

[LoonaVision]

This is the kind of teaching and mentality that removes the personal responsibility of individuals.

Yes, sex, drugs, money, can be addictive vices. Does that mean you can't enjoy a drink without being an alcoholic? Or watch porn without being a sex addict? Or take a trip to a casino without gambling away a house? Come on now.

Should little kids learn their sexuality solely through porn? No. But that's the responsibility of parents and individuals to educate them on sex and not raising easily manipulated minions. There's tons of money in drugs, sex, and gambling. That's why these things don't go away, but they're also fun and perfectly fine when used responsibly.

The idea that free porn is ruining people... ugh. That's the type of thinking that prompts further restrictions and regulations that DO destroy free enterprise, business and creates actual monopolies. Not the made up monopolies people think there are now.

There's nothing legally or in society stopping @AmberCutie from turning this forum into a platform for a paid site for amber&friendstreamlive if she wanted to. (She just likely and understandably has no reason to want to)

There are no monopolies in porn. If you think there are now and want to ban free porn in order to “PLEASE SAVE THE CHILDREN” then you'll see the rise of actual monopolies.

I don't really talk about grown ups, I talk about easy access of porn to teenagers.
Hey, I do porn, I watch porn myself, but I can control it.
But would I be mentally the same if at the age of 12 I could watch so much of free porn??? Well, I don't know.
You are right, it's parents' job to keep their kids far from porn but it is so much harder that it was 10 years ago.
Regarding the topic, would our recorded shows ruin the business, it depends.
I with all my heart against my recorded shows all over the Internet and do my best to take down us much as possible, but it doesn't affect my income.
Recorded porn is not live porn.
Communication is golden!
But, yeah, I'd like people to stop recording.

 

[LuckySmiles]

@Sevrin I get the warning, but you can interpret it either way. That there is nothing we can do, because the eye in the sky is out to get us with "devil's music" and porn and false news reports. Or that we have responsibility as individuals to acknowledge the difference between right and wrong and the two extremes.

If I thought I was ruining the lives of young people by participating in cam modeling I don't I'd sleep to well at night. (actually i do sleep weird hours but perfectly well haha)
But maybe it is also our responsibility as workers in this industry to acknowledge the dangers of addictive behaviors or as a substitute for learning properly about sex?

Maybe moms and dads might be less likely to listen to porn stars and cam models about what their children are seeing on the internet, but maybe we know a little more about it then they do? I'm totally one of those "grandma" types that hates how much time kids spend on computers and phones without socializing outside with friends and learning to play games and handle conflict.

I'd just rather work towards educating people, than passing more laws and regulations that would limit everyones job opportunities, and actually ruin the industry.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

The thing I hate about tubesite is they contribute to the crazy sense of entitlement, that "everything should be free (especially anything digital)"
I had this recent twitter exchange.
Model tweets her new video is available.
Random follower asks if it is uploaded to PornHub
She says no it doesn't get uploaded to PornHub
I say it takes chutzpah to ask a model to upload their videos to porn hub.

His response is sadly common.
ima chair ‏@i_am_a_chair_ 15h15 hours ago
@HIGirlsRHot @NicoleRileyLive Chutzpah? This isn't the 1950s. Only fools pay for porn.

I don't think we need more laws. But if I was King, I'd deprive pirates of internet access. 1 Day for the first offense, 1 week for the 2nd, a month for 3rd etc.

 

[David_Lee_Loca]

The sense of entitlement is what gets to me the most. I had a guy ask for my skype ID yesterday and he asked why all the girls charge for skype shows. It gets to the point where I actually tell them to just go to a tube site so they can stop bothering me and other models. I feel that members who actually pay usually want more than just a quick fap. You're paying for an experience, a personal interaction.
I also asked him if he enjoys doing his job for free for total strangers.

 

[LuckySmiles]

It just seems like a silly thing to worry about. If I see popular models getting stuff pirated I don't think it's putting a huge dent in their profits. If it hurts to the point of preventing profit then you simply find different ways to capitalize on your brand.

To me worrying about it is like Costco worrying about people just going there for free samples, or a restaurant worrying about homeless people eating their scraps.