Why MFC has become boring in my opinion

[BobbyB]

I think a certain Olivia made the same observation and it worked quite well for her.....

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Indeed; the problem is that it's a tough one to solve - I hang out in a few rooms where discussion of random interesting subjects tends to happen, but one constant across all of those is that whenever the discussion becomes too interesting tipping slows down considerably/stops, which means that sooner or later the model will have to find a way to get people back to tipping, which usually happens by slowly changing the subject to more sexual things (which is where the money is).

A posibble explanation could be that tipping could be related to the model doing something, and talking does not really count as doing something so the incentive to tip goes down.

So sitting there, even with Tits out, is not solving the issue.
I think maybe a teacher show could work, wirt a black board and walking around in a sexy outfit and different states of undress and teaching about an interesting topic....and a bit of dildo play thrown in..


and every member giving a wrong answer has to pay 20 tokens...or gets banned

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[weirdbr]

A posibble explanation could be that tipping could be related to the model doing something, and talking does not really count as doing something so the incentive to tip goes down.

So sitting there, even with Tits out, is not solving the issue.

Well, the model is there providing you entertainment in the form of an interesting conversation while naked, which to me qualifies as 'doing something' . The problem is, as you have shown by your reply, that perhaps I'm in the minority which helps explain why non-sexual situations are less likely to be financially viable.

 

[SexySteph]

A posibble explanation could be that tipping could be related to the model doing something, and talking does not really count as doing something so the incentive to tip goes down.

So sitting there, even with Tits out, is not solving the issue.
I think maybe a teacher show could work, wirt a black board and walking around in a sexy outfit and different states of undress and teaching about an interesting topic....and a bit of dildo play thrown in..


and every member giving a wrong answer has to pay 20 tokens...or gets banned

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Sounds good in theory, but a cooking show is doing something, right? Bare tits covered in flour, licking cookie dough off her finger, etc. But in my experience, cooking shows are super low earners. So it's not just about "not doing something"

 

[Phoenix4987]

Of course I like the occasional private session with a model, but I am just as likely to tip a model an equal amount just because. However.. I do like intelligent chat with people too.. in fact I prefer it. I would love to chat about things that I find interesting.

So you're not allowed to discuss certain subjects in their rooms as it may affect their income for instance.

I am a liberal West-European bloke that barely makes enough to survive and still devotes some of his earnings with models he likes.

Some only logging in for a very limited time each time as they are afraid it will affect their camscore..

I don't see any model do a pottery show anymore, or glassblowing or welding.. I don't see models discussing works of art or architecture in public chat anymore.

If only there was some way you could have a private and intelligent conversation with a model that wouldn't affect her camscore. She might even be willing to discuss works of art or architecture or cater to your very specific needs for a pottery, glassblowing or welding show.

 

[BobbyB]

If only there was some way you could have a private and intelligent conversation with a model that wouldn't affect her camscore. She might even be willing to discuss works of art or architecture or catering to your very specific needs for a pottery, glassblowing or welding show.

This is called a Private show, every model will happily have a nice long conversation there with you.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

I am literally watching someone get a tattoo on twitch right now so this thread is hilarious to me.

 

[Snowie1969]

If only there was some way you could have a private and intelligent conversation with a model that wouldn't affect her camscore. She might even be willing to discuss works of art or architecture or cater to your very specific needs for a pottery, glassblowing or welding show.

I'd be better of hiring an escort.. can do the same... but double the time. Seriously!

Perhaps it's best to find what you're looking for on a site like Streamate, where you can take a model private and lead the intelligent conversation you would like to have. You can tip in free chat as well but it's a private focus site.

On a site like MFC, it's a group focused environment and most of the rooms have a sexual theme.

Best of luck!

Er.. it's hard enough to find a specific model on Streamate even if you do know her name. Unlike on MFC where at least models have an option to display interests other than things sexual, you will not find that on Streamate.

And on Streamate too: taking a model to private or exclusive 'just to chat' is too damn expensive. I can only spend so much money on any or all the sites combined. And at best it gives me what? Half an hour? See escort remark above...

My thoughts, good models are rare, the right kind model to suit you close to precious.
As rare and precious as they are, you will find them. When you get to enjoy them as you dream of, the boredom can be worth it.
There are others out there too, looking for the next treasure definitely eases the boredom.

I do get what you mean Snowie, and it is easy to break down models into some form of personal category due to how they initially respond. This does lead to boredom when we do that.
As members we need to keep in mind that we may have to invest a little before seeing what most models are really like. Women in general are like that, they reveal who they are when you take a risk on them, otherwise they are defensive.

Most models are pretty good women once you get past their particular 'cam game', and the occasional language barrier.
My boredom usually comes from spending on those I like rather than finding someone I am excited to spend on. In reality that boredom could most likely be ended by choosing a favourite and choosing to create that something wild with her.

I have had the luck to have known models on MFC that suited my needs more. I still chat with Ann_Sulu, but KaraJordan, Motherbrain, Yosei_Tennyo and Chemicallilly have quit for various reasons.

*looks down at my tattoo of an elf standing on a D20*

k lol

Sadly You and I have conflicting timezones. I do not think I have ever seen you online at a time i am normally online.

 

[Phoenix4987]

I'd be better of hiring an escort.. can do the same... but double the time. Seriously!

So you'd rather hire an escort than pay a camgirl for her time and then complain on a camming forum how boring their place of employment is for not providing free, public shows for your entertainment and chatting you up for your enjoyment.

I can understand how frustrating it must be for you trying to get the most out of a model and her time for minimal financial support from you.

 

[RahqZee]

Yeah, it kinda seems like you might be bored with MFC because you simply can't afford the experiences you want. Unfortunately, camgirls are a luxury, and not everyone can afford to pay for interactive porn. Just the way it is.

 

[Empress Mika]

Er.. it's hard enough to find a specific model on Streamate even if you do know her name. Unlike on MFC where at least models have an option to display interests other than things sexual, you will not find that on Streamate.

And on Streamate too: taking a model to private or exclusive 'just to chat' is too damn expensive. I can only spend so much money on any or all the sites combined. And at best it gives me what? Half an hour? See escort remark above...

Although non-sexual interests usually aren't blatantly listed on SM (there is a certain character limit), spending 5-10 minutes in a girl's room should give you a pretty good idea of what she's about, especially if you find her Twitter / Website.

It sounds to me that you're going to a cam site for an intellectual discussion but that's not the primary purpose of cam sites. So, I can see how you are frustrated but it just means you have to take a bit of an extra step in finding someone to converse with, as I said above.

However, I'm not sure what you mean by taking a model "just to chat" is too expensive. This implies that you aren't willing to pay for the conversation you want to have?

There are many models on SM that are cheaper than MFC's 60 private / 80 true private set rate and many have block sessions available that give you a discount for committing to a longer session. Are you saying that only taking a model private to perform a sexual service is worth it to you? If so, I'm not sure where you want your intellectual discussion. Free chat? This really doesn't make any sense to me. If you really want the discussion, and it's that important to you, you should be willing to spend your budget on it.

Perhaps it might be better to join some kind of forum that suits your discussion needs, such as a philosophy forum or intellectual debate. It's the internet and there's a group for just about anything.

 

[SexySteph]

And on Streamate too: taking a model to private or exclusive 'just to chat' is too damn expensive. I can only spend so much money on any or all the sites combined. And at best it gives me what? Half an hour? See escort remark above...

So you want all these things but you don't want to fairly compensate the model for her time? I'm not understanding, MFC is boring because you can't get what you want for bottom dollar?

 

[Snowie1969]

So you want all these things but you don't want to fairly compensate the model for her time? I'm not understanding, MFC is boring because you can't get what you want for bottom dollar?

MFC is boring because most models do exactly the same. That is what makes the models their money.
I know most of you laugh at the 2k tokens I can spend max/ month.. That is mainly one of the reasons I am not in your rooms... the sheer arrogance of some of you.

 

[SexySteph]

MFC is boring because most models do exactly the same. That is what makes the models their money.
I know most of you laugh at the 2k tokens I can spend max/ month.. That is mainly one of the reasons I am not in your rooms... the sheer arrogance of some of you.

It's not arrogance. We're saying 'hey if you want xyz, why don't you take a model private?' and you say "well that's too expensive". But if you want her to cater to your desires, what she chooses to charge for that is the going rate. That's not arrogance.

I have quite a few guys in my room that can only afford 2k tokens or less a month and I enjoy their company as much as anyone else, but I won't sit their and chat about some topic that is turning off the rest of the room in free chat just because I like them.

 

[EspiKvlt]

It's not arrogance. It's needing to pay rent?

(Basically what I said is the short version of what @SexySteph said lol)

 

[Guy]

I am a liberal West-European bloke that barely makes enough to survive

Not trying to be harsh but, If you're struggling to make a living, its best that you don't go on camsites at all.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

There have always been trends on MFC, and whoever doesn't like a particularly popular one at any given time could call MFC "boring". Back in the day, girls were doing public shows everywhere and pizza delivery shows and some guys thought that was boring. But I'll play devil's advocate; maybe there IS more room for diversity on MFC. However, you have to consider that many of the girls on MFC dedicate a large portion of their life to it, are friends with other MFC models and members, and it becomes a culture where we are all influenced internally by each other. Many models don't get out much and are homebodies by nature, myself included.

I think it would be useful for models who are struggling to see this perspective, and make an effort to be inspired by things outside of cam culture. I'm guilty as sin of this, and I have to keep myself in check at times so that I'm not swallowed by the culture of MFC and start to lose my identity. It's very easy to let that happen.

OP: if a particular culture no longer interests you, and you're not willing to go forth to seek out cultures that DO interest you, you are just as guilty of being boring.

 

[JickyJuly]

OP: if a particular culture no longer interests you, and you're not willing to go forth to seek out cultures that DO interest you, you are just as guilty of being boring.

My Grandma always says "If you're bored, you're boring!". So true.

 

[Mikachu_MFC]

MFC is boring because most models do exactly the same. That is what makes the models their money.
I know most of you laugh at the 2k tokens I can spend max/ month.. That is mainly one of the reasons I am not in your rooms... the sheer arrogance of some of you.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Nobody is laughing at you for only having 2k tokens a month. But it's pretty arrogant of yourself to have such a strong opinion on how model's should run their rooms.

I spend on average 20-30k tokens every month and I feel bad for hanging around when I don't have any. But you seem to be the type to feel entitled to a model's attention just for showing up, probably spamming pms and getting upset when she doesn't respond immediately.

 

[gothicfeline]

am I odd that if I log on and wander a bit and don't see a friend of a modle that I have never seen that intersts me I ...... wait for it .....


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go do something else. i surf youtube. how else can i have an awesome burlesque thread ( shameless plug) or my pagan thread. its like Abe said.

Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other.

 

[FluffyGalore]

MFC is boring because most models do exactly the same. That is what makes the models their money.
I know most of you laugh at the 2k tokens I can spend max/ month.. That is mainly one of the reasons I am not in your rooms... the sheer arrogance of some of you.

You go to a cam site where paying for the models time is exactly what you have to do in order to get what it is you are looking for. The only person that is being arrogant at the moment is you. Nobody knew or cared what your monthly allowance is you are the one bringing that up. And don't assume that we all sneer at you for what your budget is. I'm sure some cam models would but then that's life. To say that in this forum where no one has given that impression is just plain pathetic, as if you have thrown your toys out of the pram. At the end of the day if you want a certain type of entertainment from a cam model, be it intellectual discussion, welding, live fucking skydiving, then you have to pay for that pleasure. I have regs that go pvt for naughty sexy time and I have guys that just want to chat, hell I even have guys that want 5 mins sexy time then 50 min chat. It doesn't matter what it is our time costs. Our entertainment costs. Our patience with your endless moaning costs. We cost in general. It is our job. If we don't charge, and always cater to moaning members about their specific interests then we wouldn't make any money. Period.

Suggestion if you know a girl who is a glass blower, an artist, a welder or whatever, and you want to see her do a specific public show then you should be the one to cover what her usual income for a normal show would be. If you can't do that then book a PVT show with her. If you can't do that then cut your losses run for the hills and never turn back cause she ain't welding for shit.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

I'd love to learn how to weld if anyone wants to buy me equipment and pay for lessons for me...just throwing that out there.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Submissive underwater welding with dominant octopi or no deal.

 

[SaffronBurke]

I'd be better of hiring an escort.. can do the same... but double the time. Seriously!

And at best it gives me what? Half an hour? See escort remark above

Seems to me that the obvious solution for you is to hire an escort for an hour or what have you, for a conversation. It's actually a pretty common thing for escorts to be hired for. Hell, even for guys who hire escorts for sex, that whole hour isn't non-stop sex, it's a little sex and a little talking.

 

[AmberCutie]

So you'd rather hire an escort than pay a camgirl for her time and then complain on a camming forum how boring their place of employment is for not providing free, public shows for your entertainment and chatting you up for your enjoyment.

I can understand how frustrating it must be for you trying to get the most out of a model and her time for minimal financial support from you.

 

[Worship Jaclyn]

I had just assumed this was coming from a good member who was tipping, silly me.

Plenty of members have 2k tokens or less to spend a month and that's fine, seriously. You just have to realize that you aren't going to get your ego stroked and it sort of sounds like that is what you're looking for. The room is about her, how she runs things, what she talks about, what she enjoys, it sounds like you don't understand that. It sounds like you think it should be about you and while I do understand why you would think girls want to cater more to members, we all have the most success when we are just being ourselves. To me it wouldn't matter if you had 200k tokens, if you're looking for something I'm not offering then I'm not interested. You can't change a girl to suit what you want. If you didn't find what you're looking for then move on, don't let yourself become so bitter about it

If you think you would be better off finding an escort then cool, do that. You should find out who and what works for you but don't say it like it's some kind of insult to us that you'd be happier elsewhere. Models are replaceable, the best models understand this and use it to motivate themselves. Members are also replaceable and if you don't see that then you are always going to be miserable.

 

[Shaun__]

If you have never met any models who do things like blow glass, maybe you are just not looking.

 

[Lintilla]

If you have never met any models who do things like blow glass, maybe you are just not looking.

I'm aiming to be one of them. I've done warm work and have wanted to make the jump to hot soon. There's classes coming up that I've been looking into, if anyone wants to fund me...

Yeah, I didn't think so...

I'd also love to hang around and babble about controversial or specific nerdy subjects in free/public chat, but I'd wind up evicted and starving, so I guess for those who can't afford to do so in private... better go out and find that escort, if it's as simple as that.

 

[gothicfeline]

hum need to learn how to make glass toy then all the models will love me lmao

 

[AwesomeKate]

Controversial topics are not what you find in customer service jobs. Cam models cannot be expected to filter out 50% of their viewers in one sweeping political statement. It would be career suicide if most of us shared all of our deepest beliefs and opinions with our room. People want a FANTASY. An illusion, if you will. Of a really attractive, young, sexual person who is mostly always horny and shares all of your opinions about the world. As a camgirl you can't really mention who you're voting for, what you think about abortion, how you really feel about war, any controversial kinks you have, harsh opinions you have about religion, ect. These things are reserved for speaking to people IRL who want to talk to an entire human being who is multifaceted and then debate with them about those things. Camming isn't for navigating through the moral network of our brains and figuring out how the universe works. Its about indulging in erotic pleasure with an accepting vessel.

With that said, it also frustrates me. All of this. I wish camming could be more like IRL interaction too. But that is not a job because it's not rare. Sex is rare. Sex is the commodity that women trade. If you want to get the entire feminine experience, you have to make lady friends IRL. Even an escort is gonna avoid subjects that may turn you off to her. Everyone wants return customers. Friends want to be heard and understood.