Why Cam girls rip me off ?

[illusionxox]

Ok , im gonna keep this short and blunt for the 3rd no pardon me the 4th time now ive tipped a girl for her panty and she doesnt send them and while the token economy keeps inflating because of wishful guys and girls taking advantage of them , We the movers/tippers of the site run a higher risk of losing money to a lien little bitch!

And to be honest sites like this doesn't help the economy of mfc because now you will have some noob girl coming here seeing what the new "standard " is for stuff and she will put it up ""forcing"" the "veterans" to raise there limit . just this month on one girl i lost like $144.97 (custom vid + Panty) on a girl whos profile looked legit seemed legit. And fucking
900tkn is waaaaay to much for worn underware you can buy a 8pack from walmart for like $8 for 900 tokens it cost like $80 USD do you girls really think this is fair cause its obviously not .

p.s 900tkn is cheap for panties now days they go for like 1300 round that park ridicules .

 

[oXBlackRoseXo]

900 tokens is less than $50 on our end, and when you figure in the mailing process complications, yea I'd totally say 900 tokens is more than seasonable. There are only two ways to do the mail thing really, and that's either pay an arm and a leg for a service you mail things to, then they forward it on, or send it "regularly" and give up any hope of privacy you had. It ends up being pretty overwhelming to do, I've only done it once.

 

[AmberCutie]

This is one reason I don't outright sell my panties. The process and thought of sending someone a personal item is worth much more than $50 to me. I'd probably charge like 5000 tokens, then people like this dude would come along and talk shit.

 

[ExcellaExe]

Selling panties is expensive. I have a po box for my club members to send me things if they want, and that's a chunk of change, its in another city for privacy, blah blah.

I'm sorry you got scammed. But a lot more goes into panty selling than the cost of the underwear. We have to think about our safety, longevity, and taxes/overhead. There are lots of models that sell panties legitimately, but the overhead is why the cost is going up. Most have realized how much it really costs, and anything less than a 1000 results in a loss in money for us.

Plus, you wouldn't want panties from an eight pack. Every time I've sold panties it's been my expensive panties that are a set with my bra, so I have to inflate the price because that particular pair of panties is part of a 70-100 dollar set because my boobs require spendy bras.

 

[Lintilla]

I apologize in advance if I'm wrong, but from your writing it seems like English might not be your first language, and so you may not live in the United States? If that's the case, did you discuss that fact with the models before tipping? $50 is not much to begin with if shipping within the country, and there are also customs forms and other hassles associated with international shipping beyond the extra cost. If it's not written in their profile that the price applies to USA only, that's partly on them for not specifying, and they should at the very least explain things to you/offer something else/not just ignore you. No excuse for custom vids, though.

 

[Phoenix4987]

I think you're forgetting the old economic rule of supply and demand. You're demanding something of very limited supply. Yes, while many different girls do offer the service, not every girl is them. You have to pay for the perceived value that the girl gives herself and what she thinks/already has gotten from her customers. If you're not willing to do that, then you can take your demand elsewhere, because every girl is unique in her own way.

You aren't simply paying for a packaged pair of panties. You're paying to buy something that the object of your fantasy has put on their body, put perfume on, cummed on, what-have-you. So the object of your fantasy can charge you whatever she feels like she is worth and may tailor that more specifically to what she feels she is worth to you.

 

[Violet Dawn]

I'm going to break it down very thoroughly, so you will have a better understanding of why underwear tends to cost so much.

Lets just say those underwear did come from an 8 pack from your regular Walmart or whatever. 9 dollars where I live. So that's approximately $1.12 per underwear. Now, take into consideration how much a PO box costs, where I live it's about 14 dollars per 3 months, that's the lowest plan I can get. So if I just wanted to sell those 8 underwear that would add $1.75 per underwear, now we are at 2.87 per underwear. Now, take gas money into consideration. Google says the average American pays about .15 cents for gas, so let's say the average trip to Walmart and the post office from a models house equates to .50 cents. So now each pair of underwear costs about $3.26. No longer does an 8 pack cost a small 9 dollars, but more $26 dollars.

But lets focus on individual underwear right now. It costs about .35 cents where I live for packaging for the underwear, now it's $3.61 per underwear. It also costs money to send the underwear, not going to calculate that, but lets estimate it's a dollar. $4.61 it is costing the model, per underwear.

Now take time into consideration, it takes time to advertise, prepare, drive, and "use" the underwear. You can argue that you could just wear the underwear like normal, but the reality is most guys want extras with their worn underwear, and a lot want you to wear them more than one day. This will up the price of the underwear quite a bit. So lets say all the time it takes to get a single pair of underwear ready for shipping is 1 hour. (this does include driving and shopping, and yes... we go out of our way to just pick up supplies) Every model is different, but I'll add 15 dollars for that hour, for the single underwear because I do this job hoping to avoid minimum wage.... but a lot of other models charge more for their time. Now that underwear has cost me 19.61 dollars. (Time is money, so yes, it's costing me) Then you have to take the fact selling used underwear is illegal and the dangers of the job into consideration, I'd add at least another 10-15 dollars to that. Lets just SAY I add 10 dollars to it. Great! Now add the fact I only get half of what you pay. So I'd charge you 60 dollars. Also, taxes.

Lastly, most members don't actually want Walmart underwear. Most members want and get really expensive underwear, most often Victoria's secret underwear...(at least whenever I get asked for it) So either put yourself in a model's shoes or don't buy their used underwear...

 

[Shutterbuck]

Ok , im gonna keep this short and blunt for the 3rd no pardon me the 4th time now...

Don't conversationally correct yourself in text... just backspace that shit, yo. Also, punctuation is cool.

...ive tipped a girl for her panty and she doesnt send them and while the token economy keeps inflating because of wishful guys and girls taking advantage of them , We the movers/tippers of the site run a higher risk of losing money to a lien little bitch! And to be honest sites like this doesn't help the economy of mfc because now you will have some noob girl coming here seeing what the new "standard " is for stuff and she will put it up ""forcing"" the "veterans" to raise there limit . just this month on one girl i lost like $144.97 (custom vid + Panty) on a girl whos profile looked legit seemed legit. And fucking
900tkn is waaaaay to much for worn underware you can buy a 8pack from walmart for like $8 for 900 tokens it cost like $80 USD do you girls really think this is fair cause its obviously not .

You're upset because you appear to have been duped for a 4th time. You're not upset at the economics of this. If you want 8 pairs of undies for $8 bucks from Walmart, go fucking buy them for shit's sake. If you want a pair of worn underwear from a woman on the internet, you pay what she's asking. If you get burned the first time, don't go sticking your hand back in the fire.

p.s 900tkn is cheap for panties now days they go for like 1300 round that park ridicules .

Inflation is a bitch. Get used to it.

 

[Serenity_Tam]

It costs me around $15 to package and mail panites. I also pay for my address, around $400 for a year, but I don't consider that in my pricing.

My panties on average cost between $6-$50 a pair. Typically the ones I sell are panties that are midrange because I triple my prices for the luxury panties. So $20-$30 probably the price I paid for the panty. No one ever selects the $6 sale panties. I have never sold a pair.

More often someone wants that pnty worn all day. Sometimes they want me to wear them to the gym. Whatevs. So to price for the act of me wearing them all day saying a day is 12 hours. Thats 12 hours doing a service for the panty purchaser. What I charge for my internet time is between $6-$10 a minute. That's 720 minutes. That's $4320 for my base rate. But that seems like it's not enough. My essence is worth so much more. The experience of breathing in my intoxicating scent and being in contact with something that has touched my most precious sensitive parts is worth so much more. It's god damn priceless.

You're getting a bargain.

 

[PrincessSnowAngel]

i was foolish and had a ticket raffle for a pair and sold tickets at 100 tks and had only one ticket sold by the end of the raffle so yeah lost out on that one a bit I was charging 800tks but after reading all this I may up it to 1000tks for all the time and shipping and actually having to drive a ways to ship it...

 

[illusionxox]

Im gonna ignore the bullshit comments like grammar and buy them yourself im in the usa and yes this modern day broken bastard language you call English is my first and not by choice .

Now about the price of P.O box's and privacy, ladies please stop the bullshitting i have a P.O box aswell and its not the tippers job to pay for your p.o box and the panty. Sure shipping could cost alot but truth is it doesn't if 900tkn = $50 then your fucking taking advantage of a person, a desperate person . Your talking about security for yourself what about the guy that is buying we have to give our address as well we dont know what kind of stalker you may have or crazy drugged up boyfriend or john/trick that could come after us if he finds our address or p.o box .

Your being hella selfish if you think that your work panty is worth $50 your not fucking celebrities , its just sad that there are so many losers on the site inflating every damn thing. There girls dont even do the shit we tip for sometimes ..... But the dumbest thing on my part is to expect some moral or compassion from a bunch of Jezebel hussies .

 

[Sevrin]

There totally needs to be a TED talk about the economics of sweaty knickers.

 

[illusionxox]

And yall should really get the memo that money doesnt grow on trees men dont get free money. We work hard for our money just sad that there is so many losers fucking up the token economy on mfc its totally fucked those losers that tip 3432 for no reason may as well pay for a sexy escourt and have real sex what the fuck is worng with them . And Shutterbuck it wont ever happen man so get off the band wagon and go get a real hooker or something.

 

[JoleneBrody]

This is one reason I don't outright sell my panties. The process and thought of sending someone a personal item is worth much more than $50 to me. I'd probably charge like 5000 tokens, then people like this dude would come along and talk shit.

Same. I don't even bother selling them anymore, the expected price for something so insanely personal is stupid low for me. 5000 was the price I settled on if I ever decided to bring them back as well... though I may never.

 

[AmberCutie]

Im gonna ignore the bullshit comments like grammar and buy them yourself im in the usa and yes this modern day broken bastard language you call English is my first and not by choice .

Now about the price of P.O box's and privacy, ladies please stop the bullshitting i have a P.O box aswell and its not the tippers job to pay for your p.o box and the panty. Sure shipping could cost alot but truth is it doesn't if 900tkn = $50 then your fucking taking advantage of a person, a desperate person . Your talking about security for yourself what about the guy that is buying we have to give our address as well we dont know what kind of stalker you may have or crazy drugged up boyfriend or john/trick that could come after us if he finds our address or p.o box .

Your being hella selfish if you think that your work panty is worth $50 your not fucking celebrities , its just sad that there are so many losers on the site inflating every damn thing. There girls dont even do the shit we tip for sometimes ..... But the dumbest thing on my part is to expect some moral or compassion from a bunch of Jezebel hussies .

Buying used panties from a cam girl is a service and a privilege for those who can afford to indulge in it, not a requirement. If this service was a necessity to live, I might understand the bitching about price, but it's not, so stop.

 

[AmberCutie]

By the way:

Your being hella selfish if you think that your work panty is worth $50 your not fucking celebrities

We may not be celebrities, but there's a reason you came to us as cam girls to purchase this service rather than ask the girl who lives down your street...

 

[PrincessSnowAngel]

And yall should really get the memo that money doesnt grow on trees men dont get free money. We work hard for our money just sad that there is so many losers fucking up the token economy on mfc its totally fucked those losers that tip 3432 for no reason may as well pay for a sexy escourt and have real sex what the fuck is worng with them . And Shutterbuck it wont ever happen man so get off the band wagon and go get a real hooker or something.

ive never gotten free money either. are you implying i dont work for mine? is my the time and hardwork that i put into my buisness not of any value? i dont do this because i love showing myself to men who complain about how they choose to spend time and money on me, i do it because its a job that im good at. i hope you choose the way you word your posts more carefully you want a hooker go get one cause your not finding one here, at least not from any camgirl i know.

 

[ExcellaExe]

If all you're looking for is getting your rocks off, go to pornhub or something. We do a hell of a lot of work off cam to ensure that our shows are well planned, our members well-looked after, and that we provide services-emphasis on services-that our members not only want, but think are fair and enjoy. Hell, all of my shows are planned out about two months in advance, with new games I'm trying to cycle in and out every other week on certain days. You don't have to buy panties. If it's too rich for your blood, don't buy 'em.

 

[Sevrin]

your fucking taking advantage of a person, a desperate person

You mean you have like a prescription for used panties from your doctor? You should have said so in the first place. I'm sure the reaction would have been much different.

 

[CharlieCharma]

And yall should really get the memo that money doesnt grow on trees men dont get free money. We work hard for our money just sad that there is so many losers fucking up the token economy on mfc its totally fucked those losers that tip 3432 for no reason may as well pay for a sexy escourt and have real sex what the fuck is worng with them . And Shutterbuck it wont ever happen man so get off the band wagon and go get a real hooker or something.

Women don't get "free" money either, but if paying a camgirl for her service and time makes you feel like you're just throwing money away and this bitter maybe you should spend money somewhere else. Do what makes you happy. Tipping camgirls is obviously not it.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I think we have an ol' chicken/egg scenario here. Did getting scammed create the whiny douchebag or did the girls not follow through because he ended up being a whiny douchebag?

The world may never know. but what i do know is that me and my fellow models here get pretty pissed when models are scamming (it hurts our whole industry and it sucks) and would have for sure had your back if you just weren't being such a cry baby entitled whiny douchebag... and not even about being scammed. You have probably successfully caused every camgirl who's read your posts to raise their prices just to avoid someone like you.

This was probably ruder than it needed to be but MY GOD WHAT A WHINY DOUCHEBAG!

 

[JerryBoBerry]

your fucking taking advantage of a person, a desperate person

Your being hella selfish if you think that your work panty is worth $50

the dumbest thing on my part is to expect some moral or compassion from a bunch of Jezebel hussies .

Have you considered cutting back on the drugs? They appear to be killing off a lot of your brain cells.

 

[Carmita Bonita]

I've sold my panties from $50-100. Why? Because I can. Its my panties, my business and I'd rather have someone appreciate them then someone be upset about me being too expensive. It's actually a pretty standard industry price. It's an intimate service

People on this forum DO genuinely care if someone gets scammed but there is a difference between complaining and receiving sympathy or just spouting a bunch of incoherent insults and sounding like a whiny babbling idiot.

It sucks you were duped ! No one would argue that it wasn't shitty of that specific model. if it's panties you're interested in specifically you can check out Reddits sex sells where girls have reviews and verification etc. But keep in mind that prices are very comparable to a cam site.

 

[Demon Kitty]

The entitlement of this dude smells stronger than any panties could.

 

[Lexi Emerson]

But the dumbest thing on my part is to expect some moral or compassion from a bunch of Jezebel hussies .

Man, I am fucking rolling. How is no one else geeking out that he called us Jezebel hussies?!

Seriously though pal, camgirls are a luxury service. If you can't afford it, it's cool. We know that our prices aren't for everyone. *pats head* You can always go and buy a pack of those 8 underwear and wear them yourself. I'm sure they won't smell like our wonderful pussies but I mean, that doesn't seem worth the money to you anways!

ETA: No, the dumbest thing you did was come to a forum of camgirls and tell us that we basically need to hand out panties for free to desperate fuckos instead of understand that this is our job and we aren't here just waiting for a guy to ask us for a $2 pair of underwear so we can send it to him for funsies.

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

lol the delusion that a sex worker knowing your address is a bigger risk than a sex worker being less private with their personal information. Are. You. Fucking. Kidding?????

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

And yes, it makes perfect sense to include the cost of a P.O. box when considering pricing. We cover every cost related to running our businesses ourselves, we are independent contractors. Everything we pay for to do our work, you pay for when you purchase our services. Where else would that money come from?

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

The one thing you are correct about is that we are not celebrities. I can't even IMAGINE how much it would cost to buy celebrity panties.

 

[SatanJonez]

If you don't like the price someone charges, you have every right to walk away and find someone cheaper. There is ALWAYS someone charging less for what people want. Cam/clips is a free market.

If you got ripped off, it sucks and it's super shitty of the person who did it. I won't argue with that at all, but your main complaint is that "it's not fair" we can charge whatever we deem fit for whatever service we want. Buying clips/tipping cam girls/buying used clothing is a luxury service/form of entertainment, which even outside of the x-rated industry runs off supply and demand. The consumer RARELY gets to complain about any other luxury form of entertainment being overpriced without people giggling at them for doing so because of that one word. Luxury. So why would this type be any different?

Seconding @Carmita Bonita's suggestion: go elsewhere. Research sellers (I think reddit only approves vetted sellers in some places and a lot of the direct panty selling sites usually do). And good luck.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Don't complain to the GIRLS that other GUYS have more disposable income than you and "fucking up the mfc economy." If you can't find what you're looking for on mfc (which is hard to fucking believe since some are escorts) or rather you can't afford what you want on mfc, then go shopping in a place you can afford.