What kind of man shows penis cell phone pics in person?

[Nordling]

The difference between a camgirl and the dickpic guys is...

Girl: hey, wanna see my tits?
guy: sure!
Girl: *shows guy her tits*

and

Guy: hi
girl: hi
Guy: *shows dick pic*

Camgirls don't just randomly go around flashing our tits and pussy at anyone and everyone. Sure, we might show it in public chat where anyone who clicks on our room might see, but at the same time, those clicking on our room are EXPECTING to see it. But girls are being shown the guy's dick without any say in the matter at all. They don't click a link into a place where such things are expected. They're being show. Guy says "hey look!" girl looks and is rewarded with an eyeful of dick whether she wanted it or not. There's no warning, so no consent. At least camgirls are honest about what they're going to show.

Exactly, plus I've always likened members showing their dicks unasked for in MFC chat as kind of like a guy going into a grocery store with a bag of turnips he bought from another store and showing them to a clerk. WTF man?

 

[camstory]

Yeah, the two things aren't really comparable. People choose to visit cam models and they pay them to take their clothes off. People (generally) don't ask and don't necessarily want to be sent pictures of a relative stranger's genitalia.

That said, in Magellan's defence, I don't think that's what he's talking about. From his post, I gathered he was defending those who send cock pics to women with whom they're already in a relationship. Not women they barely know.

Yea this ^^^^^^ @ not what he said. I didn't get anything from LordM's post that suggested he thought it was o.k. for a guy to send a stranger, or random person dick pics.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, the two things aren't really comparable. People choose to visit cam models and they pay them to take their clothes off. People (generally) don't ask and don't necessarily want to be sent pictures of a relative stranger's genitalia.

That said, in Magellan's defence, I don't think that's what he's talking about. From his post, I gathered he was defending those who send cock pics to women with whom they're already in a relationship. Not women they barely know.

Yea this ^^^^^^ @ not what he said. I didn't get anything from LordM's post that suggested he thought it was o.k. for a guy to send a stranger, or random person dick pics.

Well, true, but that made his post kind of off-topic--leading to false impressions of what he meant. Maybe if he'd added an "on the other hand..." or similar. Plus I still don't get why he called other posts "hypocrisy."

 

[LadyLuna]

I don't care what sort of relationship I have ever had with a man, I have NEVER wanted to see a picture of his dick.

Even my current partner, I don't want to see that. I want to see his real dick, yes. I want to see it on camera, live, yes. But if he ever said "hey, want to see a picture of it?" my answer would be "I'd rather see it live." And if he ever just up and showed me, especially if it was in a public place, without asking me first, it would be a long time before I'd respect him again.

 

[Shaun__]

The difference between a camgirl and the dickpic guys is...

Girl: hey, wanna see my tits?
guy: sure!
Girl: *shows guy her tits*

and

Guy: hi
girl: hi
Guy: *shows dick pic*

Girl: Tweets boobies
Me: Hell Yeah!

and

Guy: Tweets dick pic
Girl: retweet look what fuck head just sent me wish he would stop
ME: Eww I was eating, glad she does not do that every time

 

[mynameisbob84]

Plus I still don't get why he called other posts "hypocrisy."

I think Magellan felt that models were looking down on people who sent cock pics to their significant other (as opposed to relative strangers). Models will often post naked/naughty pics of themselves to twitter or even send pics of themselves to members' phones. Ergo, hypocrisy.

And with that, I shall stop speaking for Mr Magellan

Really, I think this whole thing hinges on a simple misunderstanding.

 

[camstory]

I don't care what sort of relationship I have ever had with a man, I have NEVER wanted to see a picture of his dick.

Even my current partner, I don't want to see that. I want to see his real dick, yes. I want to see it on camera, live, yes. But if he ever said "hey, want to see a picture of it?" my answer would be "I'd rather see it live." And if he ever just up and showed me, especially if it was in a public place, without asking me first, it would be a long time before I'd respect him again.

I understand that completely, and why I would never send or show a dick pic. That said, it is fine with some woman with whom there is already a relationship of some sort.

I really am a bit old fashion in some things, this being one. Most of the things I feel I am old-fashioned about have to do with the under mining of respect ppl afore each other. In this case it seems disrespectful, regardless. But the respect a man shows a woman has less meaning than it once had. And I suggest that is not all the doing of men.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

Years ago a friend/co-worker sent me an e-mail out of the blue with the heading "I found that pallet you were looking for" and it turned out to be a picture of her on a stack of pallets flashing me. I didn't make a big deal about it telling everyone what she did. Was she being adolescent? Or is it just more socially acceptable for girls to flash guys?

He was just being overly presumptuous of what their relationship was, and if it wasn't out of context then clearly their conversations have been that of a sexual manner in some way shape or form and perhaps he thought this form of action could speed up the process or turn her on the same way if she showed him pictures of her goods would too.

 

[Nordling]

Plus I still don't get why he called other posts "hypocrisy."

I think Magellan felt that models were looking down on people who sent cock pics to their significant other (as opposed to relative strangers). Models will often post naked/naughty pics of themselves to twitter or even send pics of themselves to members' phones. Ergo, hypocrisy.

And with that, I shall stop speaking for Mr Magellan

Really, I think this whole thing hinges on a simple misunderstanding.

Agree. But where did the misunderstanding lie? lol I just think the word "hypocrisy" is sometimes used too easily. To me, it's a big, nasty accusation. But yeah, and I didn't want to be on the attack...twas a misunderstanding.

 

[LadyLuna]

He was just being overly presumptuous of what their relationship was, and if it wasn't out of context then clearly their conversations have been that of a sexual manner in some way shape or form and perhaps he thought this form of action could speed up the process or turn her on the same way if she showed him pictures of her goods would too.

No, he was being overly presumptuous of what sorts of things would turn this girl on.

You all seem to be missing my point. I didn't mean if my partner had sent me a dick pick when we were still discussing things. I didn't mean if my partner had sent me a dick pick when we were in a long-distance relationship. I mean at any time, past, present, or future, he had sent me a dick pick without asking me if I wanted to see that, he would have shown that he has no respect for my desires, and thus would lose a lot of the respect I have for him.

Basically, if you want to send a picture of your dick, ask "do you want to see a picture of my dick?" And saying "want to see me?" doesn't count as "want to see my dick?" (because a lot of guys use that line and it turns out they don't want me to see them, they just want me to see their dicks, and that fucking pisses me off.) Obviously, if they were talking about his dick, and he asked "want to see a picture?" the "of our dick" is implied, but the way this is worded, there was no consent being given. She did not say she wanted to see it. Therefore, it should not have been shown.

For the record, I do not show pictures of my boobs on twitter, so to say that I'm a hypocrite for saying this is false information. And any girl who actually warns her followers that she will share pictures of her boobs is not being a hypocrite- by following her when they know she might do that they are consenting to seeing her boobs. This guy didn't actually give the girl any warning that she was about to see a picture of his dick. Thus, she could not make a choice to see it or not. That is the breach of privacy.

 

[Jupiter551]

The difference between a camgirl and the dickpic guys is...

Girl: hey, wanna see my tits?
guy: sure!
Girl: *shows guy her tits*

you forgot the economic transaction part :-D

Which is ironic because it's usually the guys that forget that part :whistle:

 

[Jupiter551]

Years ago a friend/co-worker sent me an e-mail out of the blue with the heading "I found that pallet you were looking for" and it turned out to be a picture of her on a stack of pallets flashing me. I didn't make a big deal about it telling everyone what she did. Was she being adolescent? Or is it just more socially acceptable for girls to flash guys?

He was just being overly presumptuous of what their relationship was, and if it wasn't out of context then clearly their conversations have been that of a sexual manner in some way shape or form and perhaps he thought this form of action could speed up the process or turn her on the same way if she showed him pictures of her goods would too.

Yeah and he fell into the situation that dumb men do all the time - that what the guy wants to see from her (explicit photos) is what she would therefore want to see from him.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

Luna- I am not talking about your situation personally. I get your point, and my point is a girl whom was a friend and co-worker sent me a picture without warning too, but we've had conversations of the sexual nature and something like this wasn't too shocking or out of no where (kind of like the two people in this story)

For the most part, not all, but most when a girl sends a nude picture of herself or of her ladybits to the guy she is interested in whom she believes is interested in her just the same- does she first ask "Do you give your consent in seeing said ladybits prior to my sending said pictures?"?

 

[camstory]

Luna- I am not talking about your situation personally. I get your point, and my point is a girl whom was a friend and co-worker sent me a picture without warning too, but we've had conversations of the sexual nature and something like this wasn't too shocking or out of no where (kind of like the two people in this story)

For the most part, not all, but most when a girl sends a nude picture of herself or of her ladybits to the guy she is interested in whom she believes is interested in her just the same- does she first ask "Do you give your consent in seeing said ladybits prior to my sending said pictures?"?

No she doesn't, yet we seem to mostly all agree that for a man to do so, with someone he is not already in some sort of relationship with, is somewhere from marginally out of line to adolescent to way out of line. What ever it is, it is not as acceptable as when a lady does the same. Is that a double standard? IMhO, absofuckinlutly! In theory I know that any double standard is not just. But to really get behind that in this case, I would have to suspended everything I know about the differences between men and woman.

So on one hand, it's a double standard, and not just. On the other hand, it's a double standard, that makes all the sense in the world, if your equation factors in reality.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

And I keep going back to- they like each other and wasn't out of context to the conversations they had.

"Dear Al, A girl I like showed me a picture of her boobs. Is this a relationship I should pursue? Sincerely, Tightpants in Toledo"

 

[camstory]

And I keep going back to- they like each other and wasn't out of context to the conversations they had.

"Dear Al, A girl I like showed me a picture of her boobs. Is this a relationship I should pursue? Sincerely, Tightpants in Toledo"

Wasn't try to debate on this one. I think your right, and it obviously was pretty much ok with her, or she thinks it is, maybe. I was just saying in general, if you compare the two, then you should keep in mind that your comparing apples, to oranges. Where as they're both fruits, they have much different taste.

 

[Jupiter551]

You know what they say; men are from Mars...







women are from the fucking Crab Nebula.

 

[AmberCutie]

I made my last post to argue that it isn't really hypocritical for camgirls to talk shit about guys sending unsolicited dick pics. Unsolicited being the key word, there.

If a guy is already in a sexual relationship with a woman, it could still be considered unsolicited, but less of a WTF than sending one to a stranger.

Most dick pics I receive, as a cam girl, are from people I've never even talked to before.

 

[Evvie]

I feel that this is more a conversation of "introducing inappropriate sexual things in to semi-relationships: Is it really inappropriate?"

I remember a conversation I had on Fetlife a while back. A local fellow sent me a message and he seemed harmless enough so we chatted back and forth. I went ahead and looked up the conversation (early parts summated):

Him: Herp derp weather puppies blurrrd
Me: Hurr nurr sunshine ponies blah blah
Him: "I'm horrible but for some reason I think two things...

One your sucking me nice and slow...

Two you with a strap on on and me enjoying what you have to give"
Me: "Up to this point I've been polite to you, but that was wildly out of line.

Please fuck off, and if you do come to a local event, please don't talk to me."
Him: "Oh wow, so very sorry. Was just being honest about a thought.. I apologize for upsetting you... If you read it again you can see I set it up, like in a humorous way.

Not my intention to upset you, totally understandable though. I won't bother you at all anymore. I hope you can understand my mistake I guess you don't know me enough to know my brand of thought and flow with the way I talk, upsetting you or anyone else is the last thing I would ever want to do."

After that he banned me.

My argument is that he knew I was in a relationship, we had not flirted, talked about anything sexual, or done anything up until that point to indicate I was open to having erotica sent to me, and that as a 30+ year old man, he knew exactly what he was doing.

His argument was that he was telling a joke and that I just didn't understand him enough to "get it". He probably left the conversation thinking I was a huge, uptight bitch. He probably also thought that because we were talking on a fetish website that I should have been more open to sexual advances from strangers.

So I wonder what you guys think. Was he out of line for sending me unsolicited fantasies? Or am I just the prude and the kind of person you wouldn't keep on your contacts list?

 

[SweepTheLeg]

Amber- And that is why I can see why most of the cam girls are having the opinions they are because the amount of unsolicited dick pics that get sent through mfc mail and twitter probably can only be comparable to the unsolicited election mail. You don't know these men, you are not attracted to these men, so when there's a story like this of course the guy is going to be called a disgusting adolescent creep and what not.

Evvie- I'd have to read the conversation to see how he "set it up" but my guess that was his attempt at backtracking and trying to make you out to be the bad person before he went off to try and find someone else that would be more welcoming to his thoughts.

 

[Mirra]

So I wonder what you guys think. Was he out of line for sending me unsolicited fantasies? Or am I just the prude and the kind of person you wouldn't keep on your contacts list?

Given the nature of the website, I can understand him thinking you'd be more open to such a joke or advance. At the same time, he was obviously mistaken and it's good you told him such. His reply was a bit defensive which makes sense for someone who has been reproached, BUT if he banned you based on this exchange, that's where it crossed from a misunderstanding to pathetically childish. If everything but that part had happened, I'd have thought it was a case of two people on different pages had a misunderstanding. No big deal. :twocents-02cents:

 

[LuckySmiles]

Amber- And that is why I can see why most of the cam girls are having the opinions they are because the amount of unsolicited dick pics that get sent through mfc mail and twitter probably can only be comparable to the unsolicited election mail. You don't know these men, you are not attracted to these men, so when there's a story like this of course the guy is going to be called a disgusting adolescent creep and what not.

Evvie- I'd have to read the conversation to see how he "set it up" but my guess that was his attempt at backtracking and trying to make you out to be the bad person before he went off to try and find someone else that would be more welcoming to his thoughts.

Yooo my final :twocents-02cents: as a not that popular fairly new chicka in this game.. but longtime dating attempter...
I don't even care if a guy on mfc is like hey look at my dick.. and sometimes I MIGHT! because there it's all about the objectification I'm not easily offended! whatevvaass...

but when it's joe shcmo who I'm texting,who I'm interested in, and have gone out with our might be meeting up with soon... and even if our convo is dripping with witty innuendo goes BAM DICK PIC. .. I immediately get put off... because that guy I'm holding to a higher standard... that guy I WANT to actually notice I have a BRAIN.. before i let him in my vagina and THAT guy just disappointed me. speaking from experience. on more than one occasion.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

So you've never sent a picture of your goods to a guy you were interested in to entice him in anyway? Fair enough. I know girls who have. people are different. ho hum.

 

[LuckySmiles]

So you've never sent a picture of your goods to a guy you were interested in to entice him in anyway? Fair enough. I know girls who have. people are different. ho hum.

nope. i seem like quite the hypocrite but I've never ever.. Because I've never had a problem with a guy wanting to sleep with me,but I have had problems with guys wanting to get to know me...

 

[camstory]

Amber- And that is why I can see why most of the cam girls are having the opinions they are because the amount of unsolicited dick pics that get sent through mfc mail and twitter probably can only be comparable to the unsolicited election mail. You don't know these men, you are not attracted to these men, so when there's a story like this of course the guy is going to be called a disgusting adolescent creep and what not.

Evvie- I'd have to read the conversation to see how he "set it up" but my guess that was his attempt at backtracking and trying to make you out to be the bad person before he went off to try and find someone else that would be more welcoming to his thoughts.

Yooo my final :twocents-02cents: as a not that popular fairly new chicka in this game.. but longtime dating attempter...
I don't even care if a guy on mfc is like hey look at my dick.. and sometimes I MIGHT! because there it's all about the objectification I'm not easily offended! whatevvaass...

but when it's joe shcmo who I'm texting,who I'm interested in, and have gone out with our might be meeting up with soon... and even if our convo is dripping with witty innuendo goes BAM DICK PIC. .. I immediately get put off... because that guy I'm holding to a higher standard... that guy I WANT to actually notice I have a BRAIN.. before i let him in my vagina and THAT guy just disappointed me. speaking from experience. on more than one occasion.

:text-goodpost:

 

[Jupiter551]

Him: Herp derp weather puppies blurrrd
Me: Hurr nurr sunshine ponies blah blah
Him: "I'm horrible but for some reason I think two things...

No you're not a prude, he should have at least felt the situation out more subtly before what amounts to textually flashing you, even if he did somehow miss or misunderstand your relationship status.

The "oh I was only joking" tactic is a way of deflecting rejection by asserting you weren't serious in the first place, and it's extremely common, and idiotic.

It's sad he's over 30 and still can't recognise the difference between expressing interest and being completely inappropriate or, as you say, he may have known what he was doing and went for it because it's the internet and he can block you as soon as you say no...and he probably said it 5 times in 5 emails to different women that same night. :dontknow:

 

[Rose]

So you've never sent a picture of your goods to a guy you were interested in to entice him in anyway? Fair enough. I know girls who have. people are different. ho hum.

For me, nope. Not without previously sending him/her an explicit warning beforehand. It's only fair, that way if they're with family, at work, in public, etc, they can take note and hide their phone/laptop.

I can't recall how many times I've been checking camming related emails at my parents' house while visiting and had random dick pictures pop up right as my mother or father walked behind me. It's not easy to explain that I didn't ask for it, don't want it and wasn't expecting it.

 

[BCamden]

Before camming I wouldn't have minded so much. Now though, eh....only with someone I have some sort of relationship with. Otherwise I could care less about faceless genitals of someone I've never met and don't have a relationship/chemistry with.

I think I'm going to name my band "Faceless Genitals".

 

[LadyLuna]

So you've never sent a picture of your goods to a guy you were interested in to entice him in anyway? Fair enough. I know girls who have. people are different. ho hum.

People I'm interested in have to ask. The only time I ever sent boobie picks without the person explicitly asking for them was when I had my MFC Mailing List. In this case, when they signed up for the mailing list, the advert was "wanna know my schedule and get the occasional random sexy pic?" Meaning, they already told me they wanted the occasional random sexy pic. And I always put "NSFW" in the email subject so they'd know not to open it in front of family.

Of course, if they're one of the idiots who have their email set to open automatically, not my fault. (I do not understand why email programs have ever thought it was a good idea to open an email automatically, either upon log-in to the program, or upon deletion of the email before. it's a pet peeve of mine.)

 

[Jupiter551]

So you've never sent a picture of your goods to a guy you were interested in to entice him in anyway? Fair enough. I know girls who have. people are different. ho hum.

People I'm interested in have to ask. The only time I ever sent boobie picks without the person explicitly asking for them was when I had my MFC Mailing List. In this case, when they signed up for the mailing list, the advert was "wanna know my schedule and get the occasional random sexy pic?" Meaning, they already told me they wanted the occasional random sexy pic. And I always put "NSFW" in the email subject so they'd know not to open it in front of family.

Of course, if they're one of the idiots who have their email set to open automatically, not my fault. (I do not understand why email programs have ever thought it was a good idea to open an email automatically, either upon log-in to the program, or upon deletion of the email before. it's a pet peeve of mine.)

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