What is the most annoying thing a model can do?

[sanjisan]

motive is I can't achieve something on my own that I consider necessary. Should be a quite common motive for asking for help.

And yes, don't need perfect reason to be annoyed. This is not about justice.

 

[Fay_Galore]

I don't get it, you can block her right? I mean is physically possible to click the block this model button. why are you relying on her? and you know a block from a model ins't permanent? it's 6 hours and if she's really quick with clicking she could do 60 days. yóu can block her forever!

 

[JerryBoBerry]

was regular tipper for months, never made a request. One day I asked her to ban me for mfc can be very unhealthy under certain conditions. She didn't do it. Leads me to the question, how much loyalty does a camgirl owe a member?
One might say if you are on mfc, you can't expect respect or loyalty or if you are a grown up and you don't want to be on mfc, then don't go there, on the other hand I think there is a minimum standard of respect everyone deserves and as a grown up you should know how pathetically weak we are at times.

Are you the guy that sued Burger King because they sold you the Whopper's every day that made you fat?

 

[sanjisan]

:crybaby: Noone understands me :crybaby: noone loves me :crybaby: fuck you world :crybaby:

:lol:

 

[mynameisbob84]

I can kinda sorta see where sanjisan is coming from. If I'd become unhealthily attached to a model and lacked the restraint/willpower/whatever to stop visiting her and tipping her and whatever else, and I politely explained the situation and outlined my own shortcomings and apologised and requested that the model force the issue and take the choice out of my hands completely and just ban me from her room (I'll give sanjisan the benefit of the doubt and assume that he did all of this) then I'd hope that that model cared enough about my mental health and long-term happiness to take the ten seconds to ban me from her room.

By refusing to do as much, she's implicitly stating that she cares more about the tokens she'd miss out on than my emotional well-being. Yes, it would ultimately be my responsibility to do what's best for me, and yes, it would have been my fault for letting things get out of hand, but it would still kinda suck, ya know?

That said, if I were in sanjisan's shoes, this little episode might ironically serve as all the inspiration I needed to evaluate the situation at hand and move on from this model.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

we had a guy come in with his therapist once when i was working at a video store, and ask us to ban his account so he could no longer rent porn. This reminds me of this.

Honestly though, its not her responsibility. Would it be a nice thing for her to do? yes...
She might just see it as drama though.

 

[Sevrin]

we had a guy come in with his therapist once ...

When I started reading, I immediately had an image of this pair coming into your room on MFC. :whistle:

 

[SexySteph]

I can kinda sorta see where sanjisan is coming from. If I'd become unhealthily attached to a model and lacked the restraint/willpower/whatever to stop visiting her and tipping her and whatever else, and I politely explained the situation and outlined my own shortcomings and apologised and requested that the model force the issue and take the choice out of my hands completely and just ban me from her room (I'll give sanjisan the benefit of the doubt and assume that he did all of this) then I'd hope that that model cared enough about my mental health and long-term happiness to take the ten seconds to ban me from her room.

By refusing to do as much, she's implicitly stating that she cares more about the tokens she'd miss out on than my emotional well-being. Yes, it would ultimately be my responsibility to do what's best for me, and yes, it would have been my fault for letting things get out of hand, but it would still kinda suck, ya know?

That said, if I were in sanjisan's shoes, this little episode might ironically serve as all the inspiration I needed to evaluate the situation at hand and move on from this model.

He's asking this girl to take the time to ban him, go change his ban to 60 days (I don't even know where to click for that) and then remember to re-up the ban every 60 days. He's asking her to be an adult for him. It's his responsibility. Plus, I have guys demanding I ban them all the time. They're mostly trolls and some I think even get off on being banned. Free fap fodder? Nope.

 

[LilyEvans]

By refusing to do as much, she's implicitly stating that she cares more about the tokens she'd miss out on than my emotional well-being.

Or she likes him being around? I've had at least a couple of members tell me they couldn't afford to keep tipping as much or as often as usual, which I accepted with grace-- no one is made of money, after all. But often they would continue to come back, night after night, and continue with the spending...as well as bringing a lively vibe to the room and generally keeping me and everyone else entertained and happy. One of these members I repeatedly told to stop tipping because I knew he shouldn't be doing it, but he continued. I never banned him but reminded him many times that although I was grateful, he really needed to stop and I would be just as happy having him around without the big bucks. He eventually told me he was quitting MFC...

...and was back about a week later with a new screen name.

Banning a member who has a spending problem will NOT stop them, and it will NOT help them. While banning a member at his request might be a nice thing to do, I certainly wouldn't think less of someone who didn't. It's not a model's responsibility, plain and simple.

 

[mynameisbob84]

I can kinda sorta see where sanjisan is coming from. If I'd become unhealthily attached to a model and lacked the restraint/willpower/whatever to stop visiting her and tipping her and whatever else, and I politely explained the situation and outlined my own shortcomings and apologised and requested that the model force the issue and take the choice out of my hands completely and just ban me from her room (I'll give sanjisan the benefit of the doubt and assume that he did all of this) then I'd hope that that model cared enough about my mental health and long-term happiness to take the ten seconds to ban me from her room.

By refusing to do as much, she's implicitly stating that she cares more about the tokens she'd miss out on than my emotional well-being. Yes, it would ultimately be my responsibility to do what's best for me, and yes, it would have been my fault for letting things get out of hand, but it would still kinda suck, ya know?

That said, if I were in sanjisan's shoes, this little episode might ironically serve as all the inspiration I needed to evaluate the situation at hand and move on from this model.

He's asking this girl to take the time to ban him, go change his ban to 60 days (I don't even know where to click for that) and then remember to re-up the ban every 60 days. He's asking her to be an adult for him. It's his responsibility. Plus, I have guys demanding I ban them all the time. They're mostly trolls and some I think even get off on being banned. Free fap fodder? Nope.

I don't know how complicated it is to 60 day ban a member but it surely can't be that hard, can it? If it's a random bloob asking you to ban him having never tipped, then sure, it's not worth the effort. But going purely off of the information sanjisan has given us, he's been hanging out with this model for months and has been tipping her. He's told her that he's developed an unhealthy attachment to her and that he would like her to ban him so that he has no choice but to stop visiting her. It's not her responsibility to ban him, but I don't think she's covering herself in glory here.

When butthurt misogynists create accounts here with the sole purpose of posting some silly "cam girls are greedy poopy heads who don't care about the fools giving them money and only see them as wallets to empty and discard" thread, everybody groans (as they should). I don't think that stereotype applies to very many cam girls at all. But if a model refuses to discourage a member who she knows has an unhealthy infatuation with her from visiting her and tipping her more than he can afford to, she's not doing much to dissuade the folk who buy into that decidedly unflattering image of cam girls.

 

[mynameisbob84]

By refusing to do as much, she's implicitly stating that she cares more about the tokens she'd miss out on than my emotional well-being.

Or she likes him being around? I've had at least a couple of members tell me they couldn't afford to keep tipping as much or as often as usual, which I accepted with grace-- no one is made of money, after all. But often they would continue to come back, night after night, and continue with the spending...as well as bringing a lively vibe to the room and generally keeping me and everyone else entertained and happy. One of these members I repeatedly told to stop tipping because I knew he shouldn't be doing it, but he continued. I never banned him but reminded him many times that although I was grateful, he really needed to stop and I would be just as happy having him around without the big bucks. He eventually told me he was quitting MFC...

...and was back about a week later with a new screen name.

Banning a member who has a spending problem will NOT stop them, and it will NOT help them. While banning a member at his request might be a nice thing to do, I certainly wouldn't think less of someone who didn't. It's not a model's responsibility, plain and simple.

I agree it's not the model's responsibility to turn away members who can't separate fantasy from reality. Just as it's not the shopkeeper's responsibility to refuse sale of alcohol to the recovering alcoholic intent on getting his hands on some booze. I do think it lacks compassion though :twocents-02cents:

Edited to add: And whether it's the member's tokens or the fun vibe he brings to her room, the model is putting her own wants and desires ahead of the member's by not banning him. In your instance, you took the time to make clear to your member that he didn't need to tip you. You did your due diligence and your conscience should be clean
For all we know, sanjisan's model might not have done anything resembling that display of compassion and might even be encouraging him to tip. I'm not suggesting she's categorically guilty, just that there are circumstances under which a model refusing to ban a member for his own good can be viewed as a bad thing.

 

[Gen]

60 day banning is only one or two clicks more than normal banning. Its not a big effort. I give 60 day bans to every troll so I don't have to worry about reblocking.

I think banning someone with a problem could hypothetically help them, and I think a member constantly telling me they couldn't afford to tip or that I was negatively impacting their life would make me feel guilty & annoyed. I think ethically is feel obliged, and it'd be no major effort for me to just ban them.

 

[Fay_Galore]

I don't know how complicated it is to 60 day ban a member but it surely can't be that hard, can it?

actually, it is I don't know if there's another way, but there's this tiny º you need to click to add 60 days adter the first ban and you have like 3 sec to decide too, if you're too late, miss-click or change your mind later on, there's nothing you can do until the ban has lifted and he comes back into your room. very annoying.

 

[Gen]

I don't know how complicated it is to 60 day ban a member but it surely can't be that hard, can it?

actually, it is I don't know if there's another way, but there's this tiny º you need to click to add 60 days adter the first ban and you have like 3 sec to decide too, if you're too late, miss-click or change your mind later on, there's nothing you can do until the ban has lifted and he comes back into your room. very annoying.

I often go view my ban list and there's an option to click on any name and extend to 60-day ban. So if you miss the window, I believe you can get them later.

 

[Fay_Galore]

I don't know how complicated it is to 60 day ban a member but it surely can't be that hard, can it?

actually, it is I don't know if there's another way, but there's this tiny º you need to click to add 60 days adter the first ban and you have like 3 sec to decide too, if you're too late, miss-click or change your mind later on, there's nothing you can do until the ban has lifted and he comes back into your room. very annoying.

I often go view my ban list and there's an option to click on any name and extend to 60-day ban. So if you miss the window, I believe you can get them later.

ahhh! YES! thank you!! much annoyance avoided.

 

[JoleneBrody]

This may come out as terrible but hear me out.

We as models NEED to care about the tokens before the emotional well being of the adult members who visit us. (obviously there are special circumstances when you actually do become close friends, but as you said... you aren't friends.)
IF we are not lying, cheating, scamming or otherwise doing anything manipulative to the members we can not put the emotional well being of 100's-1,000's of members on our shoulders.
That would get SO heavy so fast that nearly any model would crack and quit the biz. Nearly every single day there is at least one member who attempts to use his emotions to manipulate a model into giving him attention and making him feel special.

They fake their deaths, fake the deaths of loved ones, fake illness, fake illnesses of pets. From the members side you probably have no idea just how emotionally manipulative the members of MFC can really be...

If we don't draw the line in the sand somewhere when it comes to these games... we would all go fucking nuts!

You can be annoyed all you want that the model didn't ban you, but it was cruel and rude and emotionally manipulative for you to even ask... you big baby.

 

[yossarian]

I mean...yeah, it would be easy enough just to ban you. But ultimately, nobody else is responsible for your lack of willpower. If you eat too many cookies, do you go to every store in town and demand they stop selling you cookies?

Try this: every time you feel the urge to visit that model's room, drop a bowling ball on your nuts. It's a technique that's proven to work!*

*I am not a licensed therapist.

 

[Nordling]

This may come out as terrible but hear me out.

We as models NEED to care about the tokens before the emotional well being of the adult members who visit us. (obviously there are special circumstances when you actually do become close friends, but as you said... you aren't friends.)
IF we are not lying, cheating, scamming or otherwise doing anything manipulative to the members we can not put the emotional well being of 100's-1,000's of members on our shoulders.
That would get SO heavy so fast that nearly any model would crack and quit the biz. Nearly every single day there is at least one member who attempts to use his emotions to manipulate a model into giving him attention and making him feel special.

They fake their deaths, fake the deaths of loved ones, fake illness, fake illnesses of pets. From the members side you probably have no idea just how emotionally manipulative the members of MFC can really be...

If we don't draw the line in the sand somewhere when it comes to these games... we would all go fucking nuts!

You can be annoyed all you want that the model didn't ban you, but it was cruel and rude and emotionally manipulative for you to even ask... you big baby.

Exactly. And my guess as to how he generally forms opinions... always blame other people for his shortcomings. Notice his response to my initial response to his OP:

"@nordling: You consider blame, responsibility or whatever before you give a helping hand? So I suppose you hardly ever do."

Nifty, somehow I'm uncharitable because I think he's being irresponsible when he tries to make people he doesn't really even know "fix" him, so when they refuse, he can blame them for his "suffering."

 

[PunkInDrublic]

What a weird thing to complain about. Just don't log on? Not even sure how this is an annoying thing a model does, should be in the annoying member thread.

 

[JickyJuly]

Can't members hide models that they don't want to see? If you REALLY don't want to be there, why not be proactive in your approach instead of expecting a camgirl to mom you?

 

[mynameisbob84]

Question, yo!: If we accept that a member asking a model to ban them is at best an annoying attempt to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions and at worst an attempt to emotionally manipulate the model in question as a part of some psychological power trip... at that point, as a model, do you even want that member in your room?

 

[Gen]

Question, yo!: If we accept that a member asking a model to ban them is at best an annoying attempt to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions and at worst an attempt to emotionally manipulate the model in question as a part of some psychological power trip... at that point, as a model, do you even want that member in your room?

This was my thought process as well. I don't think asking is inherently annoying but if we're assuming they're gonna be manipulative or whiny about it, why wouldn't I take the five seconds to ban them and no longer have to deal with their shit? I don want manipulative people in my room, even if they are tipping, and I don't want it on my conscious to wonder if I'm knowingly facilitating someones problem.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

But what about us girls that use the ignore feature instead of banning? I could care less who can watch me (in fact, it amuses me that asshats help my room counts and help get me into the most popular rooms), just as long as I don't have to deal with them. I don't think I've banned someone all year.

I think the ban feature on MFC is really annoying and I don't like using it at all, period. Therefor it would annoy the shit out of me for someone to ask me to ban them, despite my personal policies on the matter.

 

[MrRodry]

What a weird thing to complain about. Just don't log on? Not even sure how this is an annoying thing a model does, should be in the annoying member thread.

Weird indeed. I think this dude should just delete his premium account and move on with his life.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Question, yo!: If we accept that a member asking a model to ban them is at best an annoying attempt to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions and at worst an attempt to emotionally manipulate the model in question as a part of some psychological power trip... at that point, as a model, do you even want that member in your room?

Ah... Good point. I don't really deal with this kind of silliness in my cam life so I didn't even think about that. I'm with Veronica though, ignore feature is my best friend.

I guess it would depend. If he wants her to ban him so bad pull the ol' Harry and the Hendersons schtick and earn it! Lol I dunno, this is silly.

 

[JoleneBrody]

:lol: CAN'T YOU SEE I DON'T WANT YOU ANYMORE! *Throws rock*

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

What a weird thing to complain about. Just don't log on? Not even sure how this is an annoying thing a model does, should be in the annoying member thread.

Weird indeed. I think this dude should just delete his premium account and move on with his life.

Yup and the alcoholic, should stay out of bars and liquors stores and stop buying drinks and the junkie should stop buying heroin or crack and move on with life.
The poor person should just work harder, and the obese person should stop overeating. Life is so simple people should just stop doing things that are bad for them. :naughty:

Porn can be addictive and I suspect that camgirl porn is more addictive than most forms.

Bob is right, this is the equivalent of the store clerk selling liquor to the alcoholic after the drunk has asked him to never sell him liquor again.

 

[JoleneBrody]

What a weird thing to complain about. Just don't log on? Not even sure how this is an annoying thing a model does, should be in the annoying member thread.

Weird indeed. I think this dude should just delete his premium account and move on with his life.

Yup and the alcoholic, should stay out of bars and liquors stores and stop buying drinks and the junkie should stop buying heroin or crack and move on with life.
The poor person should just work harder, and the obese person should stop overeating. Life is so simple people should just stop doing things that are bad for them. :naughty:

Porn can be addictive and I suspect that camgirl porn is more addictive than most forms.

Bob is right, this is the equivalent of the store clerk selling liquor to the alcoholic after the drunk has asked him to never sell him liquor again.

I think it really requires more knowledge of the actual situation between the OP and the model to be able to make any specific judgements, other than the very very general idea that a grown man should be responsible for himself. Anything beyond that, from either side is really no more than a lot of unfair speculation.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I think it really requires more knowledge of the actual situation between the OP and the model to be able to make any specific judgements, other than the very very general idea that a grown man should be responsible for himself. Anything beyond that, from either side is really no more than a lot of unfair speculation.

I agree with you. But geez what fun would the forum be if waited for all the facts before pontificating.. :lol:

 

[JoleneBrody]

I think it really requires more knowledge of the actual situation between the OP and the model to be able to make any specific judgements, other than the very very general idea that a grown man should be responsible for himself. Anything beyond that, from either side is really no more than a lot of unfair speculation.

I agree with you. But geez what fun would the forum be if waited for all the facts before pontificating.. :lol:

Hahaha touche'!

My first response did get me some nice anony tumblr hate mail... I haven't had an ask in weeks...