What is the most annoying thing a model can do?

[AudriTwo]

Of course you can classify the video/audio part that way, but the reason why users spend hundreds of dollars and don't pay a $10-$20 flat rate on a porn site instead is the interaction.

Therefore it's this interaction that must convince. And just as I don't frequent stores where I don't trust the salespeople/owners, I also look for models I can trust regarding this more particular business.

you know whatever to make you feel better about yourself because porn is so gross and icky, buddy, but its pornography that interacts with you. do you touch your willy to the bb with great titties that calls you whatever you want or ignores you like you are a fly on the wall?

 

[Helen Crimson]

My authentic orgasms are loud and "porn" like, does this mean I'm swindling my viewers? Pleasure for me is primal, which involves noises and faces and emotion. I think you'll find most women, or people in general, don't want to be coached on what "authentic" looks like for them. I'm not going to waste my time "convincing" people my orgasms are real when it's clear they don't have enough experience to know what an authentic orgasm even looks like. Maybe if you're looking for connection over porn you should hire an escort. You'll have more of their undivided attention and a real interaction that could maybe teach you something about the female body. You've but pleasure into a box that not everyone fits into.

 

[Feedback]

you know whatever to make you feel better about yourself because porn is so gross and icky, buddy, but its pornography that interacts with you. do you touch your willy to the bb with great titties that calls you whatever you want or ignores you like you are a fly on the wall?

Why do you think I consider porn as gross and icky? It's just a very different experience. And no, I don't touch my willy most of the time I spend on cam sites - that's one of the reasons why I see them as something different.

 

[englishmuffins]

Why do you think I consider porn as gross and icky? It's just a very different experience. And no, I don't touch my willy most of the time I spend on cam sites - that's one of the reasons why I see them as something different.

I don’t know what sites you visit, but I think sites like myfreecams or even possibly streamate might be a good fit for what you do enjoy.

 

[AudriTwo]

Why do you think I consider porn as gross and icky? It's just a very different experience. And no, I don't touch my willy most of the time I spend on cam sites - that's one of the reasons why I see them as something different.

you seem to question models authenticity if they are acting "pornlike" and the way you consume your camming shows is very "pornlike"

do you not see the irony? i understand everyone has different experiences and that's cool.

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feel how you want, but if there is content that is created to create arousal. its porn and that aint a bad thing. you are watching porn even if you dont touch yourself. arousal can mean sexual pleasure to emotional pleasure. it's fluid.

 

[Feedback]

My authentic orgasms are loud and "porn" like, does this mean I'm swindling my viewers? Pleasure for me is primal, which involves noises and faces and emotion. I think you'll find most women, or people in general, don't want to be coached on what "authentic" looks like for them. I'm not going to waste my time "convincing" people my orgasms are real when it's clear they don't have enough experience to know what an authentic orgasm even looks like. Maybe if you're looking for connection over porn you should hire an escort. You'll have more of their undivided attention and a real interaction that could maybe teach you something about the female body. You've but pleasure into a box that not everyone fits into.

I'm not a native English speaker, so I used "porn-like" for lack of a better term. Later I switch over to use "authentic" instead.

I also didn't lecture anyone about what "authentic" should look like. I just don't want to see obvious fakes on cam sites and won't spend money on such rooms. That has nothing to do with loudness or the exact masturbation technique of the girl.

I also doubt I can get a better connection than some of my better cam experiences with an escort - finding the right escort to get honest interactions would be pretty similar to cam sites. It's certainly possible in both cases, but it takes time and some failures. But yes, I would compare the experience I want from cam sites more with escorts than regular porn.

 

[Danigirl]

I'm not a native English speaker, so I used "porn-like" for lack of a better term. Later I switch over to use "authentic" instead.

I also didn't lecture anyone about what "authentic" should look like. I just don't want to see obvious fakes on cam sites and won't spend money on such rooms. That has nothing to do with loudness or the exact masturbation technique of the girl.

I also doubt I can get a better connection than some of my better cam experiences with an escort - finding the right escort to get honest interactions would be pretty similar to cam sites. It's certainly possible in both cases, but it takes time and some failures. But yes, I would compare the experience I want from cam sites more with escorts than regular porn.

So you want the GFE in 10-15 min of private.

If I were to masturbate all by myself for myself, no one would even freaking know. We can do it quietly with very very little movement. Dudes on PVT watching that sort of show would probably get pissed off because a real one looks fucking fake or like we are half assing it. I've done it next to Mr Dani in bed (we were watching TV) with the covers on, both underneath it and he had no clue until I started giggling afterwards. A real climax done the way I like can be very anticlimactic for a viewer.


Not to say I don't cum for real on cam, it's just not the way I would choose to do it if I was all alone.

 

[AudriTwo]

We can do it quietly with very very little movement.

hell clenching my vagina muscles (kegals) in a sitting position while reading the news can make me cum if i do it long enough.

 

[Danigirl]

hell clenching my vagina muscles (kegals) in a sitting position while reading the news can make me cum if i do it long enough.

 

[Feedback]

So you want the GFE in 10-15 min of private.

If I were to masturbate all by myself for myself, no one would even freaking know. We can do it quietly with very very little movement. Dudes on PVT watching that sort of show would probably get pissed off because a real one looks fucking fake or like we are half assing it. I've done it next to Mr Dani in bed (we were watching TV) with the covers on, both underneath it and he had no clue until I started giggling afterwards. A real climax done the way I like can be very anticlimactic for a viewer.


Not to say I don't cum for real on cam, it's just not the way I would choose to do it if I was all alone.

My average PVTs are longer, but yes, the masturbation part usually takes 10-20 minutes. I don't know if GFE is the right term, because I don't want the girl to pretend romantical feelings in our conversations. More like friends with benefits I guess.

I would totally enjoy watching your silent masturbation as long as your camera is good enough to capture the little details (and preferably without the covers), but I would also enjoy any other form as long as your intension is to enjoy yourself and reach an orgasm. If you are not in the mood for that, I would prefer to do something different on that day instead of just getting some illusion.

 

[englishmuffins]

My average PVTs are longer, but yes, the masturbation part usually takes 10-20 minutes. I don't know if GFE is the right term, because I don't want the girl to pretend romantical feelings in our conversations. More like friends with benefits I guess.

I would totally enjoy watching your silent masturbation as long as your camera is good enough to capture the little details (and preferably without the covers), but I would also enjoy any other form as long as your intension is to enjoy yourself and reach an orgasm.

I have a few regulars who just want me to be cum happy, just to literally enjoy myself, no dirty talk, no bj’s, they just want me to close my eyes enjoy myself and get myself to cum, however I like in what ever way I like.

But I had to ask several questions before going private with them if that’s the type of show that they really want. I wanted to make sure that we were both understanding of each other’s expectation in the show.

I do let them know that my Lovense Nora toy will absolutely get me there. After a few shows I encourage them to tease me by tipping my Nora to deny my cum or edge me. They love it and I love it, not just because there are tips involved but because I love edging and having an more intense orgasm. I still have manual control of my Nora, but when they tip, the tip prioritizes over my manual control.

I would think many cam models, especially private site models would be very open to this as long as you as state that, “I just want you to please yourself and enjoy yourself the way you prefer. No dirty talk please, I just want to see you cum the way you want to cum. I would love to take you private if you’d like.”

 

[Jenna K]

In my experience, a lot of viewers leave after the first orgasm.

That's true... it's worst when you have a d@ck and they think the show it's over, or even worst they think you can cum in seconds after the first cum and when no see you shooting cum, they leave.

 

[AudriTwo]

yeah it's neat and a great way to get me super wet if im "PENIS NOW" mode, but i get bored or distracted if im alone. either take my adhd medication to help with concentration or lose my libido.

I would think many cam models, especially private site models would be very open to this as long as you as state that, “I just want you to please yourself and enjoy yourself the way you prefer. No dirty talk please, I just want to see you cum the way you want to cum. I would love to take you private if you’d like.”

on streamate this is a very common private show i perform. "watch me cum several times while ignoring you."

 

[yummybrownfox]

the reason why users spend hundreds of dollars and don't pay a $10-$20 flat rate on a porn site instead is the interaction.

Well shit...send more of the interaction-seeking dudes my way, because 4 hours in free chat with few people making conversation is maddening...and makes me almost tempted to just start talking to my dolls instead.

 

[Feedback]

I have a few regulars who just want me to be cum happy, just to literally enjoy myself, no dirty talk, no bj’s, they just want me to close my eyes enjoy myself and get myself to cum, however I like in what ever way I like.

I do let them know that my Lovense Nora toy will absolutely get me there. After a few shows I encourage them to tease me by tipping my Nora to deny my cum or edge me. They love it and I love it, not just because there are tips involved but because I love edging and having an more intense orgasm. I still have manual control of my Nora, but when they tip, the tip prioritizes over my manual control.

I would think many cam models, especially private site models would be very open to this as long as you as state that, “I just want you to please yourself and enjoy yourself the way you prefer. No dirty talk please, I just want to see you cum the way you want to cum. I would love to take you private if you’d like.”

Thanks for your interest in this discussion and your advice.

The problem is not so much finding models that agree with my request, but knowing if it will work before I've wasted time and money. As far as I remember, until now a request of this kind has never been refused, the problem has only ever been that my preferences have not been understood or have been ignored in some way.

With a little experience, however, I have now reached the point where at least 50% of my PVT experiences are positive and only very rarely make me feel intentionally deceived. Nevertheless, I have to check out and pre-filter a large number of rooms to arrive at this acceptable rate.

Even if in general I don't like interactive toys the way you describe it sounds interesting. So this is absolutely something I would try after a few shows for some variation.

 

[yummybrownfox]

Sometimes my masturbation looks like I'm barely moving, and subsequent orgasm is impossible to notice for an outsider. Not sensual and completely boring to look at.

See, this is me. I'm thinking about my short orgasm videos...I feel like it's gotta be boring to look at, because it's just me sitting there topless using a vibrator while quietly watching a video. Not a whole lot of movement until orgasm time, and then you'll see a few seconds of jerking motions from me (and maybe a "Fuck!")...kinda like Elaine Benes trying to dance. There's a video or two where I'm wearing headphones, and at orgasm time I accidentally knock the headphones off my head. Lmao.

 

[englishmuffins]

Thanks for your interest in this discussion and your advice.

The problem is not so much finding models that agree with my request, but knowing if it will work before I've wasted time and money. As far as I remember, until now a request of this kind has never been refused, the problem has only ever been that my preferences have not been understood or have been ignored in some way.

With a little experience, however, I have now reached the point where at least 50% of my PVT experiences are positive and only very rarely make me feel intentionally deceived. Nevertheless, I have to check out and pre-filter a large number of rooms to arrive at this acceptable rate.

Yeah, of course. I understand wanting to survey your options before spending your time and money and feel out the model first. Spending money on something you didn’t expect or agree too, or have mutual understanding can be frustrating, but from a model's perspective, it can be frustrating for us as well.

The more communicative a member is with me prior to the show, the better time I have. When members say “oh bb I want to do mutual masturbation with you” but then go into the show and all of a sudden they want me to talk dirty, bj, ride like a maniac, and scream, it frustrates the fuck out me, I will literally end the show and block them because I find it disrespectful that couldn’t communicate what they really wanted from me.

The reason why I mentioned what type of sites you visit (freemium or private based) is because we as models will entertain in different ways depending on the site. Sites like chaturbate are very group entertainment-oriented and models will appease to the mass whereas streamate is more one-on-one focused and models are very much geared towards private time with members and tend to be more what members look for when they want a more intimate experience. So I think private-based sites might work really well for you.

I hope you find models that match what you are looking for. Just keep on communicating and asking questions with models to garner a sense of whether or not she’ll be a good show match for you before going private with her!

 

[AudriTwo]

The problem is not so much finding models that agree with my request, but knowing if it will work before I've wasted time and money. As far as I remember, until now a request of this kind has never been refused, the problem has only ever been that my preferences have not been understood or have been ignored in some way.

With a little experience, however, I have now reached the point where at least 50% of my PVT experiences are positive and only very rarely make me feel intentionally deceived. Nevertheless, I have to check out and pre-filter a large number of rooms to arrive at this acceptable rate.

its okay if you are doing a show, and you aren't liking it. recommend purchasing shows per minute instead of blocks, that way you can dip out before you spend too much if you aren't feeling it. a model isn't deceiving or ignoring your requests on purpose. their idea of the show might be completely different than yours. calling model's performance not authentic and fake because it's not your thing is super poor taste.

 

[Ozzie_]

To those "quiet cummers" be assured that not all guys want "Roaring Meg" (Although that can be nice) but many of us do actually appreciate "Gentle Annie" if that is what is authentic. If you are genuinely enjoying yourself, then odds are I will be aroused also.

 

[rockin_rod]

I was enjoying a show recently, and the model requested a dick pic via DM, so she could "rate it for me".
I politely declined, and she asked why.
I replied that I'm ok with what I've got, no matter how it compares with others, so no, I don't need to know how it rates.
To my surprise, she took offense at that. Whatever her reason, mine was genuinely that I just don't care; not something I'm worried about.
Guess most guys like to be told they're bigger, harder, thicker, more veiny, or whatever.

 

[MarieElise]

I was enjoying a show recently, and the model requested a dick pic via DM, so she could "rate it for me".
I politely declined, and she asked why.
I replied that I'm ok with what I've got, no matter how it compares with others, so no, I don't need to know how it rates.
To my surprise, she took offense at that. Whatever her reason, mine was genuinely that I just don't care; not something I'm worried about.
Guess most guys like to be told they're bigger, harder, thicker, more veiny, or whatever.

Those kinda annoy me, because they never say why they want them. It's a really common request, but SPH guys want to be downgraded, other guys want "honesty". It's like Jesus Fuckn Christ, just be glad you got one (a penis) and leave it at that. I don't get the big hype about them (dick ratings) and always dread being asked for one. Personally, I hope the fad dies out, and they go the way of the dinosaur. Not that anyone asked my opinion, but for fucks sakes who wants to potentially affect a stranger's self-esteem like that Not fucking me. I give them all a 10!

Free dick rating for anyone reading this. 10. End of Story. Be happy .

 

[Delroy]

Having audio that generated a painfully very high pitched sounding buzz in their stream.

For a moment I thought I had developed tinnitus but realised that it stopped when I switched the sound off. I told the model about the problem, she said she was aware of it but couldn't fix it.

 

[Delroy]

Free dick rating for anyone reading this. 10. The End. Be happy .

There all good dicks Bront.

 

[AmberCutie]

Having audio that generated a painfully very high pitched sounding buzz in their stream.

For a moment I thought I had developed tinnitus but realised that it stopped when I switched the sound off. I told the model about the problem, she said she was aware of it but couldn't fix it.

For a while before I switched out my webcam for an external mic and mirrorless cam, my built-in mic on the cam was causing an (albeit mild) electronic sound. While there was music or a lot of talking it wasn't too noticeable but during lulls it was annoying. She may very well be right that with her current setup, she cannot fix it.

 

[AudriTwo]

Those kinda annoy me, because they never say why they want them. It's a really common request, but SPH guys want to be downgraded, other guys want "honesty". It's like Jesus Fuckn Christ, just be glad you got one (a penis) and leave it at that. I don't get the big hype about them (dick ratings) and always dread being asked for one. Personally, I hope the fad dies out, and they go the way of the dinosaur. Not that anyone asked my opinion, but for fucks sakes who wants to potentially affect a stranger's self-esteem like that Not fucking me. I give them all a 10!

Free dick rating for anyone reading this. 10. End of Story. Be happy .

YES! i'm annoyed and saddened that dudes with average-sized perfectly normal penises have been conditioned by toxic masculinity to believe that their penis is small. Even if it's considered small. It still works. Have had some bomb ass sex with dudes on the smaller size.

Sorry that happened @rockin_rod. Probably never had someone tell her no to that before and it bruised her ego that someone didn't want to send her a picture of their penis. Which is super weird.

 

[MarieElise]

YES! i'm annoyed and saddened that dudes with average-sized normal perfectly normal penises have been conditioned by toxic masculinity to believe that their penis is small.

Exactly. So eloquently said

 

[Ozzie_]

I was enjoying a show recently, and the model requested a dick pic via DM, so she could "rate it for me".
I politely declined, and she asked why.
I replied that I'm ok with what I've got, no matter how it compares with others, so no, I don't need to know how it rates.
To my surprise, she took offense at that. Whatever her reason, mine was genuinely that I just don't care; not something I'm worried about.
Guess most guys like to be told they're bigger, harder, thicker, more veiny, or whatever.

I'm curious, was she offering this for free? or was there a charge, as I see on some models' menus? If the latter maybe that is why she was miffed.

 

[Delroy]

For a while before I switched out my webcam for an external mic and mirrorless cam, my built-in mic on the cam was causing an (albeit mild) electronic sound. While there was music or a lot of talking it wasn't too noticeable but during lulls it was annoying. She may very well be right that with her current setup, she cannot fix it.

I don't doubt that she couldn't fix it. It was still annoying to the point of being physically distressing.

 

[admjgg]

I'm curious, was she offering this for free? or was there a charge, as I see on some models' menus? If the latter maybe that is why she was miffed.

Honestly that shouldn't matter. She asked for a pic of his private parts and he said no. That should have been the end of it, tip or not.

 

[admjgg]

YES! i'm annoyed and saddened that dudes with average-sized perfectly normal penises have been conditioned by toxic masculinity to believe that their penis is small. Even if it's considered small. It still works. Have had some bomb ass sex with dudes on the smaller size.

This is a big part of the reason I stopped watching mainstream porn. Everything is so over exaggerated and fake.