What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Members)

[SexySteph]

So, I'm starting to discover what we, as camgirls, consider a low camscore encompasses far higher numbers than what members think. For example, I have a camscore of 1900 (normally 1600 but I got a massive tip towards raffle tickets from a member) and I consider that a lower camscore. My personal opinion is that anything under about 2500 is a lower camscore (not that I feel that models below that are bad, but I aspire to get my camscore over that number due to traffic, etc.) whereas I've found that members generally think that anything over 1000 is a good camscore. For me, I won't feel like I've made it until I've at least broken 3000 if not kept that score for awhile.


I've looked at the MFC homepage a few different times over the past couple days and I've found that to be on the top 4 rows (the rows that get the VERY most traffic and the ones that you can see without scrolling) generally you have to have over a 3500 camscore. If you have below a 2000 camscore you have 9th row placement or below, which cuts your traffic like CRAZY!

So camgirls, what do you consider a good/bad camscore? Does it bother you when you consider your score bad but a member thinks it's a "high camscore"?

Members, what do you think is a good/bad camscore?

 

[emptiedglass]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

I guess I'd consider anything over 1000 to be good.
TBH, though, I don't like the whole camscore system, and try not to give it much thought.
I've set MFC to show me friends first, and then to order models by newest logged on, so camscore has no bearing on anything once I'm logged in.

 

[JickyJuly]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

850 is the average. So, anything above that is good. However, anyone whose camscore means they make less than $20/hour might as well try other sites in my opinion. Just because you're doing average or slightly above average for MFC doesn't mean you're doing well for camming in general.

 

[SexySteph]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

850 is the average. So, anything above that is good. However, anyone whose camscore means they make less than $20/hour might as well try other sites in my opinion. Just because you're doing average or slightly above average for MFC doesn't mean you're doing well for camming in general.

850 is the average by MyCamgirl.net but apparently 1000 is the ACTUAL average since a 1000 camscore means you're making exactly what is the average number tokens per hour. I think 850 that MyCamgirl.net gets might include inactive models or something making the average lower than what MFCs algorithm figures.

 

[southsamurai]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

well, for me i would call it "low" if under the 2 k mark. sad if under 800.anything between those i guess would be "lower"

the 2k to 3 k range i would call survivable lol. over 3 k is where i start considering it decent to good. but anything over 10k is mind bending. mind you, i dont use the score for much other than conversation. i know too many wonderful ladies across the whole range. and there are a good handful that i cant stand to listen to or watch across the range as well. i know that it is a good way to estimate how well the model is doing financially, but thats none of my damn business.
as a member cam score is horrible for determining who to spend time and tokens with. (best guide to that ive found so far is this wonderful tag, ACF. bout guaranteed to find someone amazing).

even if im just randomly bouncing rooms because my brain wont shut down i'd rather go alphabetically, or at least by room population.

 

[Shaun__]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

Camscores are nothing, but a reflection of a models dollar per hour rate of pay. Not sure why MFC even tells members that kind of information. As a member I do not worry about camscores too much, so I do not have any high or low numbers in my head. Even if I did worry about them, I do not have the kind of money to really affect them much.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

My opinion changes as my camscore goes up. When I had a 2k-3k camscore I thought girls with 4k camscores were like seriously successful. Soon as I get past 4k, I want a 5k/6k camscore. Lol

I would say a high camscore is anything over 6k. That's when it really starts to make a difference. If you look on mfc generally there are a lot of models who have scores very close to each other until you start reaching the 5000s. Low to me is probably under 1500. It's really difficult to even think about it though as it's all to do with your own aims and placement. My camscore is high compared to someone with a 2k camscore, but is low compared to someone with a 10k camscore.

 

[Jessi]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

6k and up for me personally. I don't think a "low" camscore is "bad" but speaking for myself if I wasnt making decent $/hr for my part of the world I would probably find something else with less responsibility/pressure. Don't get me wrong, I love being a camgirl, but I could find a 30/hr or less job with a lot more security and my hours would be guaranteed to me. I would qualify for unemployment insurance, legal protection etc.
When I try to explain to people what I do their thought is "HOLY CRAP, YOU MAKE ___ PER HOUR?!" But thats not for a 4-8 hour shift like most jobs.

 

[NataliaGrey]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

I agree with Isabella. However, I realized I was satisfied at 3k. I'm definitely always striving for better, but 3k was where I felt successful enough. Sometimes I wondered if it was worth it when I was below that, whereas now I feel immense gratitude for what I'm able to do because of camming.

When I look at girls with camscores below 1000 or so, I think, "ouch." I don't think they're necessarily bad camgirls, maybe just unlucky, but I think below that you should probably either try another site or change things up somehow.

 

[zippypinhead]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

When sorting by camscore, anything over 1000 is going to pretty much ensure you're in the top third online. Anything over 1500 puts you pretty near to the top 25% of those online at the time, at least. By that metric, which dictates who gets seen by members first, it's a decent score. There tends to be a little bit of shuffling that happens when you sort by room popularity, but even then, it's usually most of those same models just hitting different positions in that top third. I think that's why members probably count 1000 or more to be decent -- from the perspective of the list that we all look at to see who's online, it is. Personally, I would say that 1500+ for a score is enough to tell me that the model has at least invested some strategy into her time on MFC, or at least has garnered enough of a following to keep her above water and continue to grow her fanbase. To me, that's enough.

 

[pg240]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

Guess I'd consider anything low if it keeps you off the first page, although I know that can vary depending on who's camming at any given time. I noticed the other night that 1,300 was at the bottom of the first page. But it wasn't particularly busy at that time. However, if I see someone I'm attracted to I don't give a damn what her cam score is -- other than the fact that I might be able to help her raise it.

 

[camstory]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

I guess I'd consider anything over 1000 to be good.
TBH, though, I don't like the whole camscore system, and try not to give it much thought.
I've set MFC to show me friends first, and then to order models by newest logged on, so camscore has no bearing on anything once I'm logged in.

This is how I have my home page set as well. I think that most members who post here prolly aren't influenced greatly by cs, but I think the vast of MFC members are. I also believe that many if not most are influenced as the OP suggest top 4 rows, and then top half page, along with page 1 MPR, which in turn correlates.

 

[SexySteph]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

I guess I'd consider anything over 1000 to be good.
TBH, though, I don't like the whole camscore system, and try not to give it much thought.
I've set MFC to show me friends first, and then to order models by newest logged on, so camscore has no bearing on anything once I'm logged in.

This is how I have my home page set as well. I think that most members who post here prolly aren't influenced greatly by cs, but I think the vast of MFC members are. I also believe that many if not most are influenced as the OP suggest top 4 rows, and then top half page, along with page 1 MPR, which in turn correlates.

That was basically my biggest point in this, regardless of "I don't judge a model by her camscore" most members have their page on default which means its ranked by camscore. Which is THE reason camscore matters so much.

 

[krukstyle]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

That was basically my biggest point in this, regardless of "I don't judge a model by her camscore" most members have their page on default which means its ranked by camscore. Which is THE reason camscore matters so much.

^^^ This

I don't think a majority of members give camscores very much thought at all (let alone actually take the time to read through a model's profile), yet since the default organization ranks models by camscore--it directly is going to influence the room that a given member visits. In my mind, average MFC guy loads up the page--sees a bunch of pretty pictures--and clicks on one. Though SOME members might take the time to look through rows upon rows and pages upon pages of names and pictures, a greater percentage of the traffic is going to obviously be pushed towards those at the top.

The thing that scares me about camscores--and I'm not even going to pretend that I FULLY understand them--is that they simply measure a model's success relative to the success of the average model (or the average of ALL models)--but who is to say that the average is good/viable/adequate/successful--it's just the average. I think many members (though probably not those of this forum) imagine that the average model is simply raking in wads of cash on a whim--leading them to believe that average camscores are indicators of great success--where this is more than likely not the case.

 

[AmeliaArcana]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

My camscore has never been much higher than 1300, which felt like a high camscore to me. It's shrinking again, after having to take almost 3 weeks off. I'm almost below 1000 again.

The result of my low camscore is that my room counts are low and I don't make very much money. People don't stumble into my room. But I think most people find me by keyword so it's just a matter of whether or not people like my "type" whenever I'm logged in.. I'd love a higher camscore. I'd need to attract people with more money for that to happen

 

[JustHoneyKiss]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

For me a good cam score would be one that I have yet to obtain, 3000. I just cant seem to hit it. A bad cam score for me would be anything less than 2000.
I am totally floored by cam scores of 6000 or more. Amazing. :shock:

 

[LilyMarie]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

I don't think there's such a thing as a good or a bad camscore. As long as you make the money you feel you need to make per hour in order for this job to be worth it, and the money you need/want to make per month, you're fine - no matter if you reach those goals with a 500 camscore or a 10000 camscore.
If you're OK with making $20 per hour as a camgirl (maybe because where you live the cost of living isn't high, or you have another job, or whatever the reason is), then by all means go for it. I don't think a girl should necessarily always want to strive for a higher camscore if she's happy with what she's making right now. You just have to see if the camscore stress is worth it.
I have a relatively high camscore, but I don't make nearly as much per month as other girls with my camscore, because I'm not on cam a lot. Actually, I'm sure there's quite a few 2k camscore girls who make more per month than I do. It's all relative.

Anyway, to answer the question:
I consider a low camscore to be under 1000. And like I said, that doesn't mean it's a bad camscore, it really depends on how the model sees her camscore..

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

I have a relatively high camscore, but I don't make nearly as much per month as other girls with my camscore, because I'm not on cam a lot. Actually, I'm sure there's quite a few 2k camscore girls who make more per month than I do. It's all relative.

This. When my camscore dropped to around 2000 last summer it was my highest earnings in a month I've ever made. This was because I worked much harder and put in the hours. Saying that though, it's not enormously more than what I make with much less effort with a 4k-5k camscore. What is true though, is if I put the hours in with a 5k camscore I would probably make a lot more and have a lot more chances at making good money than if I had a 2k camscore. Though I think what would also be likely is if I put in longer hours chances are my score would go down again.

Camscore's are this insanely clever thing really. Most members who come to Mfc originally see the top 2/3 rows, see a hot girl, think "cool" so go into her room, chances are because everyone else has done that and she's got a high fanbase things will be kicking off in that room. So chances are they'll stay. Or at least they won't stray very far. These members might be just here to wank, and that might remain their purpose of Mfc, or they might start enjoying the social side. Although people like promiscuity and some use Mfc for it, naturally we are also built to want to be loyal and settle down with someone. So many guys see a pretty face and a cool personality, many don't need much more than that, they stop looking as much because they've found the "right girl" where they can get to know her and enjoy the community of her room. They start becoming loyal to her and maybe a few other girls.

I do think most members do find the function where you can change how girls appear on the homepage as they clearly can see cam previews, how else would so many people rush to a room at certain times? But then why would most choose not to have it by camscore? It probably seems pretty clear to the average guy that things are going on in the top rooms, and although there are some really gorgeous girls with lower camscores, there is also a much larger chance for there to be some less good looking girls along side them, whilst at the top, most girls are pretty beautiful, even though in very different ways. It sounds awful but searching through cams feels like a lot of work sometimes, especially if you're not finding what you like, if you come to Mfc although you may find the right room and stay there for hours, you probably don't want to spend an hour searching through rooms you find boring to get to that point. The easier option is just to go to a busy room.

 

[MyCamgirl]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

This is low

850 is the average. So, anything above that is good. However, anyone whose camscore means they make less than $20/hour might as well try other sites in my opinion. Just because you're doing average or slightly above average for MFC doesn't mean you're doing well for camming in general.

850 is the average by MyCamgirl.net but apparently 1000 is the ACTUAL average since a 1000 camscore means you're making exactly what is the average number tokens per hour. I think 850 that MyCamgirl.net gets might include inactive models or something making the average lower than what MFCs algorithm figures.

It considers models that have been online in the last 3 months. Not counting closed accounts. So, for example, models that have quit 2 months ago and didn't close their accounts, their camscores are take into account.

A more accurate number would be 956. That is based on 11,756 models that have been online in the last 30 days for at least 15:30 hours (50% of the average time spent online by all girls in the last 30 days - 31h).

I am still trying to find a way to calculate this frequently without taking too much resources.

 

[SiaThunder]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

My camscore is 1347.. but I stopped carrying about it like... 2 months ago when after not being online for few days my camscore dropped 150 points. Before I was really stressed "OMG my camscore!" now I just enjoy the time with my friends

Kisses xoxo

 

[RedHerby]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

For everybody who is now depressed because they have a camscore below the average camscore of 946 .

946 is a high camscore, it is top 25%

According to mycamgirl.net, the average model has currently a camscore of 547
According to the list of models currently online on mfc, the average model has a camscore of 462

"The average model" is the model in the middle imho

For mycamgirl.net I searched for a model who has "This camscore is lower than 50% of the girls" on her page.
For mfc I did take the model halfway, currently model 515 from 1030 models online.

 

[camstory]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

I think maybe my earlier post was misunderstood, probably because it was poorly worded. When I said I thought the vast majority of MFC members were influenced by cs, I meant that I thought they were influenced by the conditions which cs create by default at MFC, (page position), and indirectly by other factors which in-turn are influenced by cs, (MPR page position, Model explorer, etc..) I also think Ms MFC top 100 page drives a % on MFC members to their choice of room, because they can open and see in one page which top 100 Models are on, and like all else, pervs no different, if it has a higher sticker price - it has to be better. (Is Ms MFC not a sticker price, it reflects what other have been willing to pay.) I did not mean to suggest that very many even look at cs, but only that they are, because of the conditions cs creates, influenced by it.

My Thought that most ACF members who post, or frequent forum flyers, not being influenced by cs so much is biased on my own experience, (70% of my friends list are ACF Models), and the fact that I see a lot of forum members in the same rooms as I. So the reason I think those here are less influenced by cs is b/c they are, or most seem to be, greatly influenced by their connection to models who are also ACF members, not b/c we are somehow different or above being influenced by cs, like those lesser non-ACF perves.

 

[southsamurai]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

I think maybe my earlier post was misunderstood, probably because it was poorly worded. When I said I thought the vast majority of MFC members were influenced by cs, I meant that I thought they were influenced by the conditions which cs create by default at MFC, (page position), and indirectly by other factors which in-turn are influenced by cs, (MPR page position, Model explorer, etc..) I also think Ms MFC top 100 page drives a % on MFC members to their choice of room, because they can open and see in one page which top 100 Models are on, and like all else, pervs no different, if it has a higher sticker price - it has to be better. (Is Ms MFC not a sticker price, it reflects what other have been willing to pay.) I did not mean to suggest that very many even look at cs, but only that they are, because of the conditions cs creates, influenced by it.

My Thought that most ACF members who post, or frequent forum flyers, not being influenced by cs so much is biased on my own experience, (70% of my friends list are ACF Models), and the fact that I see a lot of forum members in the same rooms as I. So the reason I think those here are less influenced by cs is b/c they are, or most seem to be, greatly influenced by their connection to models who are also ACF members, not b/c we are somehow different or above being influenced by cs, like those lesser non-ACF perves.

i feel ya sir. i must admit that the first week or two i used mfc i was influenced by cam score somewhat for just that reason. then i discovered that the models i liked most were spread out across it all and started paying attention to the links and buttons (yeah i know it took me weeks to do that? what can i say... boobs! boobs man!). even then it took a few days to figure out how to get things set up the way i like them.
i recently changed over from pure alphabetical after my friends list to HD first., but im finding my old way is superior for when im just bouncing on my basic account.

after this thread i experimented again. tried out most popular first, cam score etc. most popular is fine if im on my basic and just wanting a voice to keep the crazies away. in that respect the higher the room count/cam score the more likely i am to find someone talking and having fun. ( well yeah how much fun can you have in an empty room with no one talking back?)

but i maintain that from a members perspective cam score is useless. i tried that for a full 4 hours, trying to gauge how likely i would be to return to visit as a premium, and found it no more handy than random choices. room count (most popular) isnt much better, though it edges out cam score by a bit. alphabetical is more random, but since i dont feel like im being pressured by "the man" i like it best. if im not finding a lady from ACF (my real preference, since i then know that the model is probably more engaging for my tastes) then i use other keywords.
then i tend to get lists that are useful, around an 80 percent "i would come back" reaction.

 

[Annvious]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

This is my first month on cam and I have found camscore to be the best and worst thing for me. I've developed some good habits and techniques quickly because I realized I had to keep earning, but when I hit that dry spell towards the end of the month it really hurt me. I was up to 1600 and now I'm back to just under 1300. It's frustrating to be new, but no one knows. Barely on the front page and being told to do things that cost money constantly- the guys don't realize I haven't made enough to put back in to the business yet because I've managed to keep my camscore level.

I realize that MFC isn't the most new model friendly site, but I don't want to give up yet.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

One thing I wonder; guys constantly say that they don't care about camscore. And, not to sound rude or distrustful, but I do wonder how much of that is actually true, and how much of that is the fact that people don't want to be the sort of person persuaded by popular opinion.

What I'm saying is, I think people are affected by camscore in a much more subliminal, almost primal fashion.

It's human nature to want what others want. It's not because we are not confident in our own tastes (though of course that can play a part in it) but rather we assume those that are successful/sought after are doing something right.

I don't think that members look at a girls camscore and think consciously "Oh, she has a low camscore. She must be a bad model" or "She has a high camscore, therefor must be really good!" but I DO think that members, whether they even realize it or not, automatically place higher value on the girl with the higher score. After all, it's concrete proof that she IS more valuable. Her hourly goals are higher, she has more regulars, she is worth more.

Now, logically we know that is not true. Logically we know that a single member can "make" a girl's camscore. It happens all the time with whales. Some of it is luck, and being on at the right time when the right member happens to see you. We know that just because one girl has a higher camscore that it might simply be the opinion of one person we don't even know, let alone value the opinion of, that has made it that way. BUT.

I still think that on a more primal level we still can't help but feel that more successful=better. It's not that we're bad people, or ignorant, or even illogical. I just think it's human nature.

But I don't think humans like admitting this. We like to think of ourselves as better than that.

But I don't really think we are. We judge people even when we don't want to be judging people. I KNOW that people, logical kind people, look at my camscore, frown, and think less of me because of it.

I do it, I admit. I was a 700 score model for a LONG time, and I still go "oh." when I see a girl with that sort of score. If it's someone I don't like (rarely, but it does happen) then I think "well, that makes sense."

The thing about it that really sucks is that it's hard to make yourself seem valuable when there is a number next to your picture that tells the world that you are not.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

Agree with Veronica's post completely.

Members pay a lot of attention to camscore. They don't completely judge a model by it, no, but they do pay attention to it and do judge models by it. Camscore is kind of like a designer label, even people who aren't into fashion or designers can generally appreciate the idea of it. I'm pretty practical, but if someone offered me a choice of two dresses, one was high end designer, and the other was a high street brand I'd pick the designer one because I know it's something I might not always be able to get and I know loads of other people want it and can't have it. The designer dress is essentially more valuable.

There's a girl on myfreecams who had a camscore around the 3k mark, I looked on mycamgirl and it had been like that for at least 6 months and I could see she'd been around for over a year before suddenly her camscore went up to around 7k. I think she must have had a decent tipper, and that decent tipper brought the score up. It's been about 6 months since then and her camscore is now around 9k, it's never gone down, she's doing really well and has had loads of pretty massive tips. Now this is a girl who's been around for over a year. People clearly liked her, but weren't that bothered, not as bothered as they are now. Suddenly one, maybe two people tipping her and bringing the score up makes others way more excited. Sure tipping leads to more tipping, but this is a camscore situation. Members do pay attention to camscore. They like having their model having a higher score. When my camscore goes up members will message me telling me about it before I've even checked.

I do also think members will often tip models with a higher score more as they know to get their attention they'll have to work harder. It may not be deliberate intention, it is probably all subconscious, but it definitely does happen.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

One thing I wonder; guys constantly say that they don't care about camscore. And, not to sound rude or distrustful, but I do wonder how much of that is actually true, and how much of that is the fact that people don't want to be the sort of person persuaded by popular opinion.

What I'm saying is, I think people are affected by camscore in a much more subliminal, almost primal fashion.

It's human nature to want what others want. It's not because we are not confident in our own tastes (though of course that can play a part in it) but rather we assume those that are successful/sought after are doing something right.

I don't think that members look at a girls camscore and think consciously "Oh, she has a low camscore. She must be a bad model" or "She has a high camscore, therefor must be really good!" but I DO think that members, whether they even realize it or not, automatically place higher value on the girl with the higher score. After all, it's concrete proof that she IS more valuable. Her hourly goals are higher, she has more regulars, she is worth more.

Now, logically we know that is not true. Logically we know that a single member can "make" a girl's camscore. It happens all the time with whales. Some of it is luck, and being on at the right time when the right member happens to see you. We know that just because one girl has a higher camscore that it might simply be the opinion of one person we don't even know, let alone value the opinion of, that has made it that way. BUT.

I still think that on a more primal level we still can't help but feel that more successful=better. It's not that we're bad people, or ignorant, or even illogical. I just think it's human nature.

But I don't think humans like admitting this. We like to think of ourselves as better than that.

But I don't really think we are. We judge people even when we don't want to be judging people. I KNOW that people, logical kind people, look at my camscore, frown, and think less of me because of it.

I do it, I admit. I was a 700 score model for a LONG time, and I still go "oh." when I see a girl with that sort of score. If it's someone I don't like (rarely, but it does happen) then I think "well, that makes sense."

The thing about it that really sucks is that it's hard to make yourself seem valuable when there is a number next to your picture that tells the world that you are not.

I think you're right about camscore sub-consciously affecting members. For me, it seems to work in the opposite direction though. I seem less inclined to check out a model with a really high camscore than I am a model with a slightly lower one. I think I prefer slightly quiter rooms. It means less inane bullshit in chat from members ("show ass, bb", "mmmmmmmmm", "i'm fucking you so hard right now bb", etc.) and it's easier to talk to the model as she's not struggling to keep up with reams of chat.

That said, if I've gotten to know a model a little and decide that I like them, then camscore has no bearing on anything. If I've decided a model is cool enough to hang out with (either through reading their posts on ACF or stumbling across their room on MFC) then I'm just as likely to do so if they have a camscore of 100, 1000 or 10,000.

 

[Sevrin]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

As far as this perv is concerned, as long as you are on page 1, you're in the running, and if you are the first half of page 1, you are in good shape. Keep in mind that some pervs, like me, filter, so some members will never see some models, regardless of camscore, personality, appearance or whatever.

 

[UncleThursday]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

One thing I wonder; guys constantly say that they don't care about camscore. And, not to sound rude or distrustful, but I do wonder how much of that is actually true, and how much of that is the fact that people don't want to be the sort of person persuaded by popular opinion.

What I'm saying is, I think people are affected by camscore in a much more subliminal, almost primal fashion.

It's human nature to want what others want. It's not because we are not confident in our own tastes (though of course that can play a part in it) but rather we assume those that are successful/sought after are doing something right.

I don't think that members look at a girls camscore and think consciously "Oh, she has a low camscore. She must be a bad model" or "She has a high camscore, therefor must be really good!" but I DO think that members, whether they even realize it or not, automatically place higher value on the girl with the higher score. After all, it's concrete proof that she IS more valuable. Her hourly goals are higher, she has more regulars, she is worth more.

Now, logically we know that is not true. Logically we know that a single member can "make" a girl's camscore. It happens all the time with whales. Some of it is luck, and being on at the right time when the right member happens to see you. We know that just because one girl has a higher camscore that it might simply be the opinion of one person we don't even know, let alone value the opinion of, that has made it that way. BUT.

I still think that on a more primal level we still can't help but feel that more successful=better. It's not that we're bad people, or ignorant, or even illogical. I just think it's human nature.

But I don't think humans like admitting this. We like to think of ourselves as better than that.

But I don't really think we are. We judge people even when we don't want to be judging people. I KNOW that people, logical kind people, look at my camscore, frown, and think less of me because of it.

I do it, I admit. I was a 700 score model for a LONG time, and I still go "oh." when I see a girl with that sort of score. If it's someone I don't like (rarely, but it does happen) then I think "well, that makes sense."

The thing about it that really sucks is that it's hard to make yourself seem valuable when there is a number next to your picture that tells the world that you are not.

I can see where your'e coming from, Veronica, but at the same time, I think it's all up to each individual.

I have models on my friends/perv list as low as sub-300 camscores. I also have girls on there that are in the 1k-3k mark. And I have some that are in the very high camscore range. In most cases, I found them through the lounge, where you can make it pretty random in how it shows you models.

I've found the model with the lowest camscore (stays around 250-ish) that I talk to has her score not because she's a 'bad' model, nor that she is ugly or anything (she's quite hot)... but because she works at least one other site while she is on MFC. So, she is very often set to away while she is in private on the other site. Another model I have known for as long as I have been a member on the site fluctuates, wildly. She's gone as low as 500 or so camscore, and she's pretty much at her highest I've ever seen her, now, at almost 2900. Where she will be in a few months is anyone's guess.

Like you said, sometimes it can be luck. Sometimes models can get guys who offline tip them, which helps their camscore out a lot more. Other times they can't seem to make any sort of token gain while online or offline. The problem with this line of work is it won't always be steady income. Members have times they can't tip, or they find someone else that they tip more at certain times, or any other multitude of reasons that can affect someone's incoming tokens. Obviously with how MFC does the placement on the homepage when set to defaults, a higher camscore means a higher earning potential, because more eyeballs will see their room. But it doesn't guarantee it.

Then there are the models who don't earn as much as one would think by their camscore, simply because they're not online as much. They just earn a lot while online; but because of their camming schedule, the actual income might not be as much as those models who are online longer each month, but with a lower camscore. If a model is online for 10 hours a month, and earns say $200/hour in tokens, she isn't making as much as the model who is on for 40 hours a week but brings in $50/hour in tokens. The 10 hour/month model brings home $1000 a month, but looks to members to be a higher earning model, while the 40 hour/week model brings home $4000 at the end of the month, but appears to members to make less.

 

[UncleThursday]

Re: What do YOU consider a lower camscore? (Models and Membe

So, I'm starting to discover what we, as camgirls, consider a low camscore encompasses far higher numbers than what members think. For example, I have a camscore of 1900 (normally 1600 but I got a massive tip towards raffle tickets from a member) and I consider that a lower camscore. My personal opinion is that anything under about 2500 is a lower camscore (not that I feel that models below that are bad, but I aspire to get my camscore over that number due to traffic, etc.) whereas I've found that members generally think that anything over 1000 is a good camscore. For me, I won't feel like I've made it until I've at least broken 3000 if not kept that score for awhile.


I've looked at the MFC homepage a few different times over the past couple days and I've found that to be on the top 4 rows (the rows that get the VERY most traffic and the ones that you can see without scrolling) generally you have to have over a 3500 camscore. If you have below a 2000 camscore you have 9th row placement or below, which cuts your traffic like CRAZY!

So camgirls, what do you consider a good/bad camscore? Does it bother you when you consider your score bad but a member thinks it's a "high camscore"?

Members, what do you think is a good/bad camscore?

I would personally say as long as your camscore is high enough to never have you drop off page 1 for members who don't change how their pages are ordered, then you're doing all right. Some days that is as low as a 500 camscore, most days having 1k+ will keep you on the front page. Towards the end of the pay period, when there are a lot of high camscore models on, then maybe you will need 2k+ to stay on there. It varies, but on average I'd say keeping yourself above 1k will keep you on the first page more often than not.

If you think being 9th row on the homepage cuts your traffic, check out the room counts of the girls not on page one.