Video "Scooping" And the Assholes who do it!

[Mirra]

So I did my own investigation on the issue. The software can still be used to record the stream with some adjusted settings. The good news is you need to actively be viewing the stream for it to work currently. You cannot connect and then dump out and continue capturing. I am not sure if they'll be able to restore that capability with some tweaks but that's where it is right now.

As for you, CamelNut, I think the question is specifically directed at you for a reason. He is asking if you personally recorded more of a private, group, or spy than you actually stayed and paid for? This is kind of a sticking issue to figure out just how compassionate about these girls-next-door and their ability to make money in their lively-hood you truly are.

Sorry, that was a typo. I meant "you'll" have to refer to the above mentioned. As for me "scooping," I think if you'll read through the mile of run-on sentences, you'll be able to deduce your answer.

From what I've read, if there is any answer there it is vague and open for interpretation so how about a simple fucking yes or no instead of beating around the bush if you're so damned innocent and truly just wanted to preserve memories of good times?

Did you record more of a group, private, or spy than you actually paid for?

 

[superfunguy]

I think its kinda obvious he was recording without paying for at least some of the shows. While I agree the tip window can be annoying, it still does not provide a valid reason to record any show. Privates are automatically recorded so you have a record of that show in your archives. Group shows are not recorded automatically within mfc, so doing it on your own is technically a violation of mfc rules. If he wanted a copy of the show, he should take her pvt and he would get one.

If camelnut was really as noble as he says he is, and really cared about the models as people, he would have asked if it was ok if he recorded the show he was in for personal use. I am certain a fair share of models would object as no matter what assurances camel gave, they would not want a video file of them in group or pvt being out there.

As well if Camel was using this as a research tool to discover what models are "into" he could do that by sitting in, and paying, for a group show. Instead he sat in without paying. Likewise he could simply ask the model what she was into to gauge her interest. His reasoning is the equivalent of saying, "I am going to eat a full meal at this restaurant without paying, just to make sure I like the food and I'll come back later and pay for a second meal."

I will admit I have used the software in question to record streaming video from sites other than mfc for a long time, and did use it once on mfc out of curiousity. However in that case I was in the group the full time and paid for every second of it.

So if you look past Camel's long winded attempt to look like the victim, and seem like a compassionate well intentioned member, you'll see that he did break several rules, stole videos, and betrayed the models trust for personal gain. And make no mistake about it, it is stealing. The models are selling their time on cam in group/pvt. Viewing that show without paying the full amount, even evading full payment by a bit, is theft.

 

[strokinmuhharbl]

What I'm stressing over is that it's theft and it's wrong, as a business owner in a business that makes a decent profit I don't like people ripping me off even though I'm still making money. My sub-contracted employees who work for me don't like being ripped off either - and that's how this site works.

Over a years time let's put this in perspective, on average a private session on MFC costs between 15&20 dollars - if you only do ONE of those each day for 5 days (which is unlikely) at the end of the year if this guy takes a capture of every one of your shows (and with the amount of porn he claims he has It's VERY likely) that girl has lost anywhere from an average of 3900-7500 dollars in a YEAR! now don't tell me you wouldn't be pissed at the fact out of that potential income you made 2.60 for $7500 worth of work?

And as an admin of the site yes it looks like they are making good money off of him but it's the same thing would you rather make maybe 1500 dollars a year or if everything was on a level field and you weren't exploiting a flawed system that the right thing to do would be to report it when a hole is found (like I did) would be likely TEN's of Thounsands.

On average this guy would spend 1 token to record the show - at the minimum purchase of 20.00 he got 200 shows for 20.00 - this is of course assuming that Mr. Nut bought these tokens at the minimum and made them last for a month at a time - for 240.00 - he'd scoop get 2,400 shows per year! Nearly $50,000 worth of shows for under 300 bucks is a GREAT score for him and his elite underground group that also scoops and swaps - say there's five of these guys - a QUARTER MILLION dollars worth of shit taken from the site for 1200 bucks, not sure about you guys but I'd love to have my share of a Quarter Million to be a lot more than 2.60 cents at the end of the year. And remember this is all at the MINIMUM purchase price.

Either way this is a deplorable action - I can't see why people are just shrugging it off!

This man is sadistic he told me before that he threatened to send a video of a girl he recorded to her parents if she didn't stop asking him for him to pay her 40.00 he had agreed to pay her for the said show...but just look at those numbers above and still say you shouldn't care about someone stealing your shit!

I'm not even reading your post. I stopped after "What I'm stressing over is that it's theft and it's wrong". I'll repeat.... IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY OR YOUR BODY. SO WTF DO YOU CARE? (CAPSLOCK BB). Acting like that isn't going to make the girls on MFC like you or want to talk to you. It's their money. Let them worry about it. I highly doubt this issue is stopping you from jerking your little dick to them or making you lose sleep.

yep were all in this because were GREEDY! I knew someone would figure it out one day! Its all EASY money, :lol: all ya gotta do is know how to manipulate right :roll:

We'll you're not on MFC because you plan to be the first female president of the United States or because you want to cure cancer. Just admit when you joined MFC you weren't thinking "Hey let me join this because might be fun!". No.... You were like "Wow I can make money for just sitting on cam to show tits".

They had access to something they should not have. Yes, that is MFC's fault. Yes, the people taking advantage of it are arseholes, but going apeshit after the fact won't change anything.

Thank you. Exactly what I've been saying the whole time. No matter how many people tell him though he's still going to ignore it and keep beating his rant into the ground.

Don't lie guys/girls. You know if you see a girl fisting her anal cavity you'd record it too.

totally bb!! shov that all the way n! fist both azzes bb! shov eet!!!

I like this girl.

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Ah, the classic "I'm the victim here" defense. Amid all of that blabbering, Camelnut, you admitted that you recorded shows and did so without the permission of the model and shared said videos. Moreover, your refusal to answer the simple direct question of whether you recorded shows without actually being on MFC at the time makes me believe you are hiding more in an effort to further cover your ass.

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah, I got from your post that you seem like a decent guy CamelNut - but you say you only shared 30 videos...I assume you either mean videos you recorded of models or videos you bought from models.

Either way dude, 30 videos may not be much in the grand scheme of things but shit...it's still 30 more than you probably should have ethically shared.

 

[SatanJonez]

I gotta agree. Most guys don't get any profit from sharing videos they collect. They just do it to share with the rest of the interwebz. You can't stop them & it IS pointless to get pissed about it. Just contact the site it's on & get it removed if it bothers you.

/repeating what's already been said 100 times or so maybe this thread will die in a fucking fire

 

[Zoomer]

I gotta agree. Most guys don't get any profit from sharing videos they collect. They just do it to share with the rest of the interwebz. You can't stop them & it IS pointless to get pissed about it. Just contact the site it's on & get it removed if it bothers you.

That wasn't the point of the thread...it was about using an exploit to record private and grp sessions without actually taking part in them. Then saying they're nice guys and really good to models.

 

[SatanJonez]

I gotta agree. Most guys don't get any profit from sharing videos they collect. They just do it to share with the rest of the interwebz. You can't stop them & it IS pointless to get pissed about it. Just contact the site it's on & get it removed if it bothers you.

That wasn't the point of the thread...it was about using an exploit to record private and grp sessions without actually taking part in them. Then saying they're nice guys and really good to models.

I was just pointing out what it had mutated into, which seems to me to be useless finger pointing & GIANT walls of text defending ones self or someone else.

 

[BOOYA!]

Your long winded Easter Sunday woah is me story sealed the deal.

I have a feeling that he's pleading the fifth on this one, silence is golden and that way you don't incriminate yourself anymore!

As for me having White Knight syndrome - I don't think I lined up and asked every girl on MFC to give me a pat on the back or blowjobs for the house, what I was pointing out was that one sick twisted individual was doing something that's wrong and pointing it out to the people who could be affected by it!

And like I mentioned before, Camel cares so much about the models as people that he basically stalked a model, then sent her friends and family a video of her camming over some silly dispute? Ring a bell creep?

Perhaps not because of your market research video scam which you're still skirting whether or not you paid for or not (because you know you didn't), and why you would have 7 terrabytes of "research videos" is beyond anyones comprehension, it's like coming into a trial for murdering someone and saying "your honor yes I did kill them but I did it because I wanted to see what it was like and if it wasn't any good I wouldn't do it again" - you still did it and your rant and rave about "it being a functional community" if this were a real community Champ you'd be going door to door announcing you're a sex offender or you'd be locked up in MFC prison.

So let me break this down into your "community" sense that you keep pointing out to me - in a functioning community we have rules and we have roles to play to keep those rules going,.the police - in the MFC world the police are the Admins - Leo, Aaron and Katie, and if someone breaks the law within that community we can either turn a blind eye to the crime or as a good citizen (or member of the community) you can report it - which I did, so if that makes me a useless member because I have as many reward points as you've been called an idiot so be it, there's other sites that I'm sure you'll scoop and threaten other ladies on. Fuckface.

 

[Zoomer]

blah blah blah.

Since the guy who you accuse said you told the admin's about the exploit - kudos for doing so. :thumbleft: Personally, that's as far as it goes.
For the other guy - if he recorded streams after he left, therefore getting access to stuff for free - then he's a criminal. Any of his thoughts, justifications and protestations in his posts are invalid and irrelevant :hand: (to me ).

I've nothing further to add, and for me there's nothing of interest here any further :hello2: (that's waving bye, not hello ).

 

[strokinmuhharbl]

That wasn't the point of the thread...it was about using an exploit to record private and grp sessions without actually taking part in them. Then saying they're nice guys and really good to models.

Doesn't matter if they're pretending to be good guys or not. The point is MFC is at fault for not fixing it as soon as they knew it was happening. How can you blame a guy for using an exploit to get some thing for free? You would do it too if you knew how to. For example don't tell me you've never downloaded a movie or music before.

I gotta agree. Most guys don't get any profit from sharing videos they collect. They just do it to share with the rest of the interwebz. You can't stop them & it IS pointless to get pissed about it. Just contact the site it's on & get it removed if it bothers you.

/repeating what's already been said 100 times or so maybe this thread will die in a fucking fire

Exactly. None of these guys listen to the troll.

It's not hard to get caps removed either like you said. Maybe 3 years ago I saw a post this guy made on a site with TONS of caps of regular webcams all hosted on rapidshare. I copied and pasted all of the download links in one motion, opened my email, sent an email to abuse@rapidshare.com just saying it was under aged content and to please remove it and it was removed. Took me not even 30 seconds to do. The next day the uploader goes posting saying how he spent over 2 hours uploading and 98% of the links were dead. I was thinking like "Lol u mad". To me it was just humorous to report them to watch him and the people wanting to download them cry. Reporting via DMCA isn't how to report. Even if you just say the cap is porn the host will remove it usually. If it's on a site like pornhost then you just say the girl is 17. They will remove it over 75% of the time.


@ BOOYA, if a girl is so careless to not know how to cover her tracks not to have her info found then she shouldn't be camming for money. If she's concerned what her family will think then chances are she shouldn't be camming for money either. And if she is she should try being low key instead of a "famous" MFC model. If you don't want your friends and family to see your roast beef MFCurtains then you shouldn't be on MFC to begin with. Any girl knows caps will end up online. If she doesn't think some of her friends and family aren't masturbating to pornhost or some other site then she's stupid and naive. Not saying sending a cap out to family and friends is ok. It's not. But the human race isn't perfect. People know before they even go on cam there's possibilities.

 

[CamelNut]

Your long winded Easter Sunday woah is me story sealed the deal.

I have a feeling that he's pleading the fifth on this one, silence is golden and that way you don't incriminate yourself anymore!

As for me having White Knight syndrome - I don't think I lined up and asked every girl on MFC to give me a pat on the back or blowjobs for the house, what I was pointing out was that one sick twisted individual was doing something that's wrong and pointing it out to the people who could be affected by it!

And like I mentioned before, Camel cares so much about the models as people that he basically stalked a model, then sent her friends and family a video of her camming over some silly dispute? Ring a bell creep?

Perhaps not because of your market research video scam which you're still skirting whether or not you paid for or not (because you know you didn't), and why you would have 7 terrabytes of "research videos" is beyond anyones comprehension, it's like coming into a trial for murdering someone and saying "your honor yes I did kill them but I did it because I wanted to see what it was like and if it wasn't any good I wouldn't do it again" - you still did it and your rant and rave about "it being a functional community" if this were a real community Champ you'd be going door to door announcing you're a sex offender or you'd be locked up in MFC prison.

So let me break this down into your "community" sense that you keep pointing out to me - in a functioning community we have rules and we have roles to play to keep those rules going,.the police - in the MFC world the police are the Admins - Leo, Aaron and Katie, and if someone breaks the law within that community we can either turn a blind eye to the crime or as a good citizen (or member of the community) you can report it - which I did, so if that makes me a useless member because I have as many reward points as you've been called an idiot so be it, there's other sites that I'm sure you'll scoop and threaten other ladies on. Fuckface.

So let me break this down to you.
I'm not quite sure who you are. But I'm going to give this 3 good guesses.
1. You're the model previously named BlondeCutie18 currently modeling under the name ScarletHeart
2. You're this models, friend, boyfriend, lover, cam coach, etc.
3. You're SirLarry/AngryPlumber and were at one time on my friends list and you seem to think I've done something directed at you, other than called you an idiot, for making public a tool used for "scooping."

So yes I remember the incident quite well, it was with ScarletHeart. I approached her about a show and she said sure, let's do it. It's X amount of $ for this amount of time. So I pm'd her back and told her the $ was sent and that I included a tip, not to insure prompt service but instead to let her know that I was thankful she'd accepted my requested show. She then proceeded to say she was busy and would be back later. So later came and went. The following day, I contacted her and she pretended like she was online the entire time and had been awaiting my return to do said show, all the while not using common sense enough to just email or pm me and say hey, I'm here and waiting. No instead she said. Well you missed this window, I'm leaving for New Year and I won't be back to do our show until the 4th of January. I said fine and went about my day, waiting for the 4th of January in which time we could do our, prepaid, show. So being near the 1st I had time off work and decided to mull around MFC during times I had nothing to do and noticed that Natasha was coming on cam and was doing shows. At first I thought nothing of it, but then as she cammed every day that she was on vacation, I began to think how odd it was that she couldn't say "oh btw, when I'm free tonight we can do that show."

Well nothing like that happened. But what happened instead is she returned on the 4th and proceeded to cam on her return. on the 5th I contacted her and asked about when we could our show and she without any real enthusiasm said soon. At this I became a bit aggitated and tried to go into her room and pm her to discuss what was going to happen. I found myself banned and block, so I tried to rever to sending an MFC mail and that was at a time where MFC had made it so that when a model blocked a member it not only locked you out of her room but killed the ability to send MFC emails. So I reverted to other methods to try and communicate with her. At first it was me very calmly asking for my money back because
1. she hadn't provided what I'd paid for
2. Trying to give her a reasonable time line to pay it back(since she'd whined about not having any money)

So during this time I'm off fooling about on MFC and I come to one room of a model that I have no time on cam with except for her first night. So during my time in her room watching her she spurts out that not only is CamelNut an asshole(I accept being an asshole btw) he's also a pedophile who asks model to act like they're 8 years old and perform certain sex acts on themselves. So that was it for me. I pm'd that model of course I was still blocked and ignored and then said fuck it and got the necessary tools for a job that needed to be done. So what had gone on is I tried to strong arm her saying look the money is one thing, but you telling models on MFC that I'm a pedophile and ask girls to dress up and act 18 and fist themselves is inexcusable. She was completely trying to do the same thing she's doing here which is win over a crowd to show that I was the evil one in this case. So she kept on and on about giving her video proof that I had her doing sex acts on video, that I'd planned on sending to her loved ones. So I showed her video proof in order to set her straight.

At this she freaked out, got me banned from MFC and called her local PD telling them, I'm guessing the same story. So I gave her a date that she had to pay back the money or I'd send said videos(which by the way were provided by other asshole members that she'd tried to rip off) And peple that knew nothing of this "scooping" proceedure. So i gave her a date and a time that I wanted to see the money returned by. That date came and went. I contacted her again and told her(after she'd whined that she was broke a day after MFC payday) that she had one more chance to pay me on this time and date and if I checked my account that day and it wasn't there, I'd move to plan B. I wasn't going to contact her again, just move on. Day came and went. I haven't talked to her since, but I'm guessing those that I talked to about the whole mishap also tried to do their part in trying to have her removed from MFC for being a shady model.

So there you have it, Camel can be an asshole, booya!/sirlarry/angryplumber/blondecutie18/scarletheart have now proven their point.

As for the mystery of Booyah is, there are still a few stones to be turned over.

 

[Eva_ChangeN]

I gotta agree. Most guys don't get any profit from sharing videos they collect. They just do it to share with the rest of the interwebz. You can't stop them & it IS pointless to get pissed about it. Just contact the site it's on & get it removed if it bothers you.

/repeating what's already been said 100 times or so maybe this thread will die in a fucking fire

if a girl is so careless to not know how to cover her tracks not to have her info found then she shouldn't be camming for money. If she's concerned what her family will think then chances are she shouldn't be camming for money either. And if she is she should try being low key instead of a "famous" MFC model. If you don't want your friends and family to see your roast beef MFCurtains then you shouldn't be on MFC to begin with. Any girl knows caps will end up online. If she doesn't think some of her friends and family aren't masturbating to pornhost or some other site then she's stupid and naive. Not saying sending a cap out to family and friends is ok. It's not. But the human race isn't perfect. People know before they even go on cam there's possibilities.

TRUE!

 

[superfunguy]

I gotta say that a lot of shit was said, and Sir Larry made his point, but the guy sounds rather unstable. And Camelnut didnt do himself any favors either with the "I'm the victim" routine. He sounds like a total creep.

With all that said I say let's end this and "Leave the drama for yo mama!"

 

[Mikeythegeek]

I gotta say that a lot of shit was said, and Sir Larry made his point, but the guy sounds rather unstable. And Camelnut didnt do himself any favors either with the "I'm the victim" routine. He sounds like a total creep.

With all that said I say let's end this and "Leave the drama for yo mama!"

Seconded.

 

[Rose]

Don't lie guys/girls. You know if you see a girl fisting her anal cavity you'd record it too.

totally bb!! shov that all the way n! fist both azzes bb! shov eet!!!

I like this girl.[/quote]
alrighty, i'm going to crawl back in my hole now. i was just being a goofy fucktard, looks more like i succeeded in being a fucktard. *facepalm* anal fisting is like a bad wreck, you have to watch to see if it ever stops, but i'm against recording anything without explicit permission from the model....yea....it's why i like deep throat shows. most people don't actually enjoy it but it's scary interesting to see the girls throat bulge out obscenely.

 

[AlexLady]

It's never the law's fault for having a loophole, no more than MFC is responsible for people using that loophole. It's not like MFC knew that was there, and when they did learn about it, they closed it. Don't just blame MFC for their actions, when it was still them doing it.


You're basically saying you're Lawful Evil, but no matter what you say, that's still evil.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

If you want to get uber technical about it, honestly, when someone uploads a video they have somehow lifted from MFC, the ONLY legal victim here is... MFC.

Because every model signs an agreement (if I recall being told this correctly) that ALL her content generated is the sole property of MFC. The model gets paid from the token take. The content proper, belongs to MFC.

So, when MFC decides one day to start uploading models privates on a Pay tube site, or start uploading branded teaser vids to various tube sites (as FTV does, to draw people to the main site to buy full access) Then the content will be everywhere in snippets. Then your regional blocks will be pointless and ooooh boy, you have no idea who will see your shit then.

If this were a court room, MFC would be found the only real injured party here. The girls sell the rights to their content when they sign up.

That is if I'm right about the camgirl agreement.

Great greasy Jesus on a sharp stick, when you turned on the cam and got naked for the FIRST time, none of this shit occurred to you? Was it the first day with the new internetz or what?

Pointing out that software glitch to MFC only helped MFC make more money. No cam girls befitted from that outrage. MFC cut off a bleeder, that's all.

Do we have a DIAF emote here?
:lol:

 

[AshaSnow]

Paulie, you are correct about the rights of all content from privates/groups/public shows belonging to MFC rather than the models. And we have a whole thread dedicated to talking about the ramifications of broadcasting sexually on the interwebs

 

[AmberCutie]

If you want to get uber technical about it, honestly, when someone uploads a video they have somehow lifted from MFC, the ONLY legal victim here is... MFC.

Because every model signs an agreement (if I recall being told this correctly) that ALL her content generated is the sole property of MFC. The model gets paid from the token take. The content proper, belongs to MFC.

So, when MFC decides one day to start uploading models privates on a Pay tube site, or start uploading branded teaser vids to various tube sites (as FTV does, to draw people to the main site to buy full access) Then the content will be everywhere in snippets. Then your regional blocks will be pointless and ooooh boy, you have no idea who will see your shit then.

If this were a court room, MFC would be found the only real injured party here. The girls sell the rights to their content when they sign up.

That is if I'm right about the camgirl agreement.

Great greasy Jesus on a sharp stick, when you turned on the cam and got naked for the FIRST time, none of this shit occurred to you? Was it the first day with the new internetz or what?

Pointing out that software glitch to MFC only helped MFC make more money. No cam girls befitted from that outrage. MFC cut off a bleeder, that's all.

Do we have a DIAF emote here?
:lol:

Well said, Paulie.

I would certainly like to see this thread wind down, I think everything that we've needed to hear has been said. Booya (whomever he/she is on MFC) tattled on something that CamelNut and many others did. CamelNut seems to have admitted it (and I do actually have a clue that he used to do it, as I have 2 tokens from him for a group show back in '09, but CamelNut has ALSO tipped me a couple of times and was generally a nice guy when he's appeared in my chat room).

So I think we can all move on, knowing that video will continue to be recorded and posted wherever members feel the most benefit (bragging rights, exchanging for other videos/pics they want, etc) but it's less likely now that MFC has fixed it that it will be said "scooping" of private/group shows without paying for it.

On a side note: I'm trying to sort out my feelings on my forum being the "ladies restroom" of forums.

 

[Mirra]

On a side note: I'm trying to sort out my feelings on my forum being the "ladies restroom" of forums.

Well I am worried about what that means for me since I (apparently?) am known to hang out in the "ladies restroom" as a member of the male gender. Should I pretend to be a janitor to make it look like I have a legitimate reason to be here? :whistle:

 

[Anonymous]

did CamelNut put his huge essay in word or something? wtf is it double spaced?

 

[strokinmuhharbl]

alrighty, i'm going to crawl back in my hole now. i was just being a goofy fucktard, looks more like i succeeded in being a fucktard. *facepalm* anal fisting is like a bad wreck, you have to watch to see if it ever stops, but i'm against recording anything without explicit permission from the model....yea....it's why i like deep throat shows. most people don't actually enjoy it but it's scary interesting to see the girls throat bulge out obscenely.

I know. I guess you didn't see the sarcasm of my response to your post.

What is the model going to do if some one caps them? Rant about it so her room becomes a bunch of white knights talking to her about it to try getting her to like them? Or is it just easier to ignore it and get back to making her bread? You decide. Like I've already stated any girl who gets mad over getting capped might as well not be on MFC. You know before joining it'll happen. Keep in mind also that even if some one did ask for permission and the girl said no the guy is still going to cap. What guy would ask if he could any way? Chances are she'll say no and he knows that.

It's never the law's fault for having a loophole, no more than MFC is responsible for people using that loophole. It's not like MFC knew that was there, and when they did learn about it, they closed it. Don't just blame MFC for their actions, when it was still them doing it.


You're basically saying you're Lawful Evil, but no matter what you say, that's still evil.

I'll make sure to bring this up at the next neighborhood watch meeting.

Then your regional blocks will be pointless and ooooh boy, you have no idea who will see your shit then.

Exactly what I was saying.

 

[Rose]

If you want to get uber technical about it, honestly, when someone uploads a video they have somehow lifted from MFC, the ONLY legal victim here is... MFC.

Because every model signs an agreement (if I recall being told this correctly) that ALL her content generated is the sole property of MFC. The model gets paid from the token take. The content proper, belongs to MFC.

So, when MFC decides one day to start uploading models privates on a Pay tube site, or start uploading branded teaser vids to various tube sites (as FTV does, to draw people to the main site to buy full access) Then the content will be everywhere in snippets. Then your regional blocks will be pointless and ooooh boy, you have no idea who will see your shit then.

If this were a court room, MFC would be found the only real injured party here. The girls sell the rights to their content when they sign up.

That is if I'm right about the camgirl agreement.

Great greasy Jesus on a sharp stick, when you turned on the cam and got naked for the FIRST time, none of this shit occurred to you? Was it the first day with the new internetz or what?

Pointing out that software glitch to MFC only helped MFC make more money. No cam girls befitted from that outrage. MFC cut off a bleeder, that's all.

Do we have a DIAF emote here?
:lol:

Well said, Paulie.

I would certainly like to see this thread wind down, I think everything that we've needed to hear has been said. Booya (whomever he/she is on MFC) tattled on something that CamelNut and many others did. CamelNut seems to have admitted it (and I do actually have a clue that he used to do it, as I have 2 tokens from him for a group show back in '09, but CamelNut has ALSO tipped me a couple of times and was generally a nice guy when he's appeared in my chat room).

So I think we can all move on, knowing that video will continue to be recorded and posted wherever members feel the most benefit (bragging rights, exchanging for other videos/pics they want, etc) but it's less likely now that MFC has fixed it that it will be said "scooping" of private/group shows without paying for it.

On a side note: I'm trying to sort out my feelings on my forum being the "ladies restroom" of forums.

ditto and both very well said. on that note, i'm probably done reading this forum. everywhere you look on the internet you'll find drama and slander and problems of some kind. i'm off to go look at boobies now those are harmless, right?

 

[Lydia_Deetz]

So check out this forum talking about the recording software and being "rickrolled." From what I have gathered they have already found a way around it.
http://tinyurl.com/3mykw66

 

[Zoomer]

So check out this forum talking about the recording software and being "rickrolled." From what I have gathered they have already found a way around it.
http://tinyurl.com/3mykw66

Reading the sites about this:
http://stream-recorder.com/forum/www-myfreecams-com-can-record-free-sex-t3851p11.html

The main point about their recording is that they can no longer record private or group shows without having to pay to be in them.

The whole issue of this recording is that they used to be able to nip into a grp/pvt (spying), get the stream, exit so that they are no longer paying but continue to download the stream as if they were paying.

Those threads are talking about being able to record free chat without being in the room - it appears MFC made several changes, including preventing the downloading of a stream without being physically there.

So they can't download the "pay to access" streams without paying.

They could always record streams they pay to have access to (screen capturing), these solutions they are looking at means they don't have to be in your room watching the cam to record it though. Again, this is only (afaik!) applicable to free chat. They no longer have access to the paid streams without paying...

 

[GreatDane]

If you want to get uber technical about it, honestly, when someone uploads a video they have somehow lifted from MFC, the ONLY legal victim here is... MFC.

Because every model signs an agreement (if I recall being told this correctly) that ALL her content generated is the sole property of MFC. The model gets paid from the token take. The content proper, belongs to MFC.

So, when MFC decides one day to start uploading models privates on a Pay tube site, or start uploading branded teaser vids to various tube sites (as FTV does, to draw people to the main site to buy full access) Then the content will be everywhere in snippets. Then your regional blocks will be pointless and ooooh boy, you have no idea who will see your shit then.

If this were a court room, MFC would be found the only real injured party here. The girls sell the rights to their content when they sign up.

That is if I'm right about the camgirl agreement.

Great greasy Jesus on a sharp stick, when you turned on the cam and got naked for the FIRST time, none of this shit occurred to you? Was it the first day with the new internetz or what?

Pointing out that software glitch to MFC only helped MFC make more money. No cam girls befitted from that outrage. MFC cut off a bleeder, that's all.

Do we have a DIAF emote here?
:lol:

Well said, Paulie.

I would certainly like to see this thread wind down, I think everything that we've needed to hear has been said. Booya (whomever he/she is on MFC) tattled on something that CamelNut and many others did. CamelNut seems to have admitted it (and I do actually have a clue that he used to do it, as I have 2 tokens from him for a group show back in '09, but CamelNut has ALSO tipped me a couple of times and was generally a nice guy when he's appeared in my chat room).

So I think we can all move on, knowing that video will continue to be recorded and posted wherever members feel the most benefit (bragging rights, exchanging for other videos/pics they want, etc) but it's less likely now that MFC has fixed it that it will be said "scooping" of private/group shows without paying for it.

On a side note: I'm trying to sort out my feelings on my forum being the "ladies restroom" of forums.

ditto and both very well said. on that note, i'm probably done reading this forum. everywhere you look on the internet you'll find drama and slander and problems of some kind. i'm off to go look at boobies now those are harmless, right?

All depends on how you look at it, you could poke your eye out with those things :lol: :lol:

 

[Lydia_Deetz]

Apparently the rick roll is out according to that forum. I wonder if MFC realized they were using copyrighted material? LOL

I did not read the whole thread but thought it may be a good thing to bookmark for future info.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

Here is a fairly simple step by step guide on how to record MFC live streaming private or group shows by only clicking the "spy on now" button while the shareware named in the video is running, and you pay zero tokens. Schweeeet.

http://youtu.be/VLb9wv6AXaY

 

[uncleF]

hhhhm? does it count as scooping that I record my pvts?

I got a cap program after mfc 'lost' a 30 min long prvt I had had :crybaby: so now i record them myself.

I did hear about the cheap scooping scam but it's really not my thing so apart from twice to see if it worked I never bothered with it.
The whole reason I like cam shows is the interactive aspect, knowing a girl is playing with me, rather than the just watching a random girl play. If I was after that I would watch free porn shows.. not like there is any lack of them on the web :lol:

just my :twocents-02cents: