Video cap removal - Help!

[Bipo]

Hello guys and girls,

Me and a close friend (a model) have been trying to get a video of her removed from a site (...) generally the model forwards a link to mfc support and within a few days the download link or picture is down.
For the past 9 months we've tried everything to get this website to remove 2 videos unsuccessfully, is the DMCA the next step? And how would I / her go about doing that? I've looked at a few pages of the videos on that site and they all seem to be of mfc models so I guess others are also having similar issues with the site.

Thank you,

 

[AllisonWilder]

MFC sends DMCA takedown notices. Do not send one yourself on her behalf and make sure that she doesn't send any personal information directly to any capper site. Double check that the link is correct (for the video, not just for the page the video is on) and tell the model to keep sending it to MFC.

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Also, have your model friend get verified here. We have a wealth of knowledge in the Models Only section.

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[Bipo]

Thanks for the reply.. Every week or so I have a quick look around for any new caps of her and for the last 9 months she has been sending this video from the above named site to mfc. They take down the other caps but this video still remains.. Everyone knows how mfc only ever respond to easy to answer questions and we have both sent mfc messages asking why no action has been taken over this particular video (with the link copied in) with no reply.

And on a DMCA note.. Does it cost money for them to take stuff down? I tried looking for a link to the DMCA for a view into looking at the form you need to fill out but had no luck?

Thanks,

 

[LadyLuna]

And on a DMCA note.. Does it cost money for them to take stuff down? I tried looking for a link to the DMCA for a view into looking at the form you need to fill out but had no luck?

MFC sends DMCA takedown notices. Do not send one yourself on her behalf and make sure that she doesn't send any personal information directly to any capper site.

I will repeat what Allison said. DO NOT SEND THE DMCA NOTICE. Under ANY circumstances!

There are a couple cappers out there who will use any info they get from the models to blackmail the models, and DMCA claims require full name and address. Let MFC handle it.

If MFC hasn't done anything, tell her to keep trying, and start to include in the emails a tally of how long it's been since she started notifying them, how many emails have been sent to MFC about this, and including in there somewhere "You've been very good about getting other videos taken down, and I really appreciate that. This one seems to be giving you trouble though? I'd appreciate knowing what the problem is, if it's more than just it slipping through the cracks so many times." They are only human after all.

 

[UncleThursday]

If they are caps of her shows on a site (MFC/SM/Cam4/etc,) then it is the responsibility of the site to send the takedown notices, not her and most definitely not you. Her contract with any sites she works on specifically says the site owns the copyright on the streams, not her.

If they are uploads of videos she made on her own, then it is her responsibility to take care of it, either on her own (not recommended as per Luna's reasons) or through a lawyer. Again, not your responsibility.

 

[goneDude1]

And also please before any of you ( Models or Members ) even think of firing off any e-mail for DMCA purpose that can't be handled by MFC, Chaturbate etc CHECK CHECK who is the person/persons behind who will receive that DMCA. A lot of these sites/boards don't have any lawyers so you are in fact going to send your details to the exact same person who is posting/storing your content !!!! Also there is one file hosting company I would say NEVER EVER send any correspondence to as they have stated in no uncertain terms they don't give a flying f**k about DMCA etc notices. I will cc this message to Amber in pm with this company's name. So just think very very carefully before you hit that enter button.

 

[Bipo]

Alright, thanks for the replies... Like you say just a case of continuously message Mfc till its removed? The cap was from when she first started camming so did not have a "property of" thing up, could that be why they seem reluctant to take it down?

And if that is the case what would the next step be? It's definitely her and she doesnt cam anywhere else other then Mfc

Thanks for the help on this I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to all this.. :-D

 

[AllisonWilder]

Alright, thanks for the replies... Like you say just a case of continuously message Mfc till its removed? The cap was from when she first started camming so did not have a "property of" thing up, could that be why they seem reluctant to take it down?

And if that is the case what would the next step be? It's definitely her and she doesnt cam anywhere else other then Mfc

Thanks for the help on this I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to all this.. :-D

Yes, just continually message MFC. To clarify though, it needs to come from the model, not from you. The "property of" thing is irrelevant because MFC owns the stream, not the models of MFC. There really is no next step in this process. The only way to get caps down is to send the links to MFC and they can send the DMCA notices.

 

[nzhere]

I say to hell with DMCA procedure! :mrgreen:

Have you heard of LOIC (find that on wikipedia) download it then fire the canons, in fact an organized team of angry models + LOIC
:whistle: FG KABOOM!

 

[rexcode]

I say to hell with DMCA procedure! :mrgreen:

Have you heard of LOIC (find that on wikipedia) download it then fire the canons, in fact an organized team of angry models + LOIC
:whistle: FG KABOOM!

Hopefully you're just kidding. In the eyes of the law, staging a DDoS attack using LOIC (or similar tools) is probably a more serious crime than whatever any of these sites that would be targeted are doing. Plus, it's liable to take out a bunch of innocent sites that just happen to be using the same hosting facility.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Alright, thanks for the replies... Like you say just a case of continuously message Mfc till its removed? The cap was from when she first started camming so did not have a "property of" thing up, could that be why they seem reluctant to take it down?

And if that is the case what would the next step be? It's definitely her and she doesnt cam anywhere else other then Mfc

Thanks for the help on this I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to all this.. :-D

Yes, just continually message MFC. To clarify though, it needs to come from the model, not from you. The "property of" thing is irrelevant because MFC owns the stream, not the models of MFC. There really is no next step in this process. The only way to get caps down is to send the links to MFC and they can send the DMCA notices.

It is also possible that it is being taken down but simply automatically uploaded again. A process which some of the cappers are allegedly using.

 

[Bipo]

The post date is still 9 months ago so it hasnt been "reposted" unfortunate thing is alot of models are not happy with doing public shows due to capping.. But now mfc has let it become the normal thing to do, models are forced to do them as they need to compete to keep members in the room.. Which inevitably leads to capping of their shows..

I'll get her to persist and hopefully the videos will be down soon, so by me reporting them to Mfc support it doesnt help the situation at all?

 

[Swirl]

I'll get her to persist and hopefully the videos will be down soon, so by me reporting them to Mfc support it doesnt help the situation at all?

I would think this would depend on your reward points.

 

[goneDude1]

Reward points has nothing to do with it.
You are a member reporting something that in MFC eye's is not your concern.
Let the model do the reporting, keep your nose out of it.
Might sound harsh but it's nothing to with you.
If the links are still there I would say the site is ignoring DMCA sent from MFC.

 

[Sevrin]

You can find out where the site's servers are located fairly easily. If they're stateside, there a fair chance they will comply. If they're in The Netherlands or Eastern Europe, don't even bother.

 

[UncleThursday]

You can find out where the site's servers are located fairly easily. If they're stateside, there a fair chance they will comply. If they're in The Netherlands or Eastern Europe, don't even bother.

I was going to say something similar. That they may be hosted outside the US, so the DMCA stuff can be easily ignored.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Whenever threads of this ilk get started I always wonder what the OP is hoping to discover that the model/MFC isn't already aware of/can't discover for themselves. I mean, it's cool that you want to help out a model you get on with, but there's really nothing you can do to help. If she wants them removed, she can tell MFC and they can deal with it. If they can't deal with it, then there's nothing more you, as a member, can do (short of finding out who is hosting the videos and knocking on their front door armed with a baseball bat and some colourful language, which I wouldn't recommend doing).

Members are no more able to affect this stuff than models are able to help members with their day jobs, ya know? :twocents-02cents:

 

[Sevrin]

Pretty much. It's not like MFC doesn't know what the sites are or how to send a DMCA notice. If they thought the harm outweighed the benefit, they would be looking after this stuff on their own. Fact is, models have to bug them about it.

A lot of porn surfers who visit tube sites or whatever discover cam girls on those sites for the first time. Some of them then look for sites to get a more personal experience with those hotties, and some even come here to ask for help locating some model who caught their eye. MFC probably thinks it can convert enough of those members to make a buck off the free publicity. They'll make an effort if a model asks, but they obviously don't think it hurts the site.

 

[goneDude1]

Do NOT assume a server is located where it states on a webpage lookup.
If they use a service like cloudflare which is used here a server hosted in Costa Rica would show it's based in US.

 

[UncleThursday]

Members are no more able to affect this stuff than models are able to help members with their day jobs, ya know? :twocents-02cents:

Wait, so you're saying I shouldn't have models call the corporate offices demanding I get a massive raise?

DAMMIT! Sorry, ladies who I have already contacted. Operation get Sam a raise is off.