Turn offs- things members do that stop the show

[hornygods]

Yeah, :clap tends to be too intrusive/distracting. I guess I have a different tolerance level to the (over)use of emotes.

On topic, assuming it hasn't already been posted - any form of extremely taboo referencing. You like incest roleplay? Good for you, but don't tell us about it - and consider seeing a therapist too. The same applies to rape/murder/other fucked up fantasies. I've seen more than a few good shows ruined because of these jerks :\

 

[camstory]

Brief question - would you send a clapping emote for every tip in a yellow wall? Excessive clap emotes on some of my tips have almost devalued the feeling of tipping for me.

I'm Sorry, I felt like I had been the catalyst for the argument of, 'to clap or not to clap' as I caught up on this thread. I think I understand hornyG's point, tho I don't agree that there is some value at which a tip merits appl, and any that fall below that value do not. If I am in a room where tips happen to be coming in pretty close together, I may choose to add 2 or 3 names to one appl emot to not clutter the chat so much. I can also understand the idea of not clapping for every 10 token tip in a room of large tippers, when those tips are coming from regs, and most likely are comment tips. Tho, if I'm in that same room and it is a new tipper I will most often appl their 10 token tip, - always if no one else has. I can understand these, and other common sense ideas about when it is understood that a tip is appreciated, that don't actually involve an emot of clapping hands

On the other handConversely the only sense I can make of the above quoted comments are, that caught up in the back and forth you reacted with out putting much thought into your statement. Why I would say that I think is pretty clear, and I feel like I would just be, being an asshole to diagram it.

Let me get off my horse, b/c my question about this was not a shill question. I was somewhat confident that I was not being annoying (to most) by clapping for tippers, but I was not certain. I can be annoying just being me in a chat, something I have little control over, I wanted to be sure I was not being annoying in some way I could control.

And finally, if you are a true whore like myself or Los, and care about tipping at least part of the time in rooms that you frequent, then I have a challenge for you. Next month budget yourself to $100, - something that is less a choice than a necessity for some of us, - and see if you do not appreciate a 20 or 30 token tip a little more at the end of the month.

 

[Evvie]

I'll just briefly sum up my points:

No more than 5/minute from any particular person = okay.
Anything above that = unnecessary + annoying.

I love being applauded for tipping, and I love applauding for other people's tips. I don't love being bombarded by emotes/false affection for something I feel is relatively trivial (under 30tk tips feel small to me, since they're only $1.5 or less).

Thought you said, "under 30k tips feel small to me" and I thought, "i wants u".

Hmm... on the topic of too much silence or not talking, I can say that the one time I really wanted to stop in the middle of a show and go have a good cry was when a bunch of guys (regs included) had a conversation about French politics or some shit while I was dildoing myself. It made me feel completely unattractive and very unwanted.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

as far as clapping, on one hand I really love to see the people tipping me get recognition from their contribution, on the other...it's sort of silly when it's like a 5/10 token tip. Not that there is anything wrong with a 10 token tip, but to me that's like going to a strip club, putting down a dollar on the rack, which is great, and having the people at the stage acting like you just made it rain.

Evvie: I'm kind of the opposite, I love a lively conversation when I'm masturbating. I mean, at some point I won't be able to participate, but I totally dig the idea of a bunch of guys gathering around my vagina eating popcorn and talking about what books they are reading. I'm also open to people coming into my room not so much to see me as to hang out with each other. My favorite cumshow I've done so far I was listening to Weird Al, which is totally normal for me masturbating but I guess other people think it's weird? lol. But everyone was talking about Weird Al and I thought that was super fun. Actually, I guess a closer example of guys totally ignoring me and doing their own thing was when I was a stripper and this guy started whistling at my stage (quite well I might add!) and then another guy joined in, and it turned out they were both whistle enthusiasts. And then the third guy, a non-whistling enthusiast, joined in because he didn't want to feel left out of the conversation. That was such a bizarre experience, I like to think that those guys started a whistling band that night after the club closed. It was magical.

That sucks that you felt unsexy, though. I think we all have those moments. And then there are times that I just KNOW I'm not sexy and nobody else seems to notice.

Also, am I the only one in this thread that keeps reading fapping instead of clapping?

 

[LadyLuna]

Also, am I the only one in this thread that keeps reading fapping instead of clapping?

Nope!

 

[Jupiter551]

Ehh, I clap if it's a low tip IF there haven't been any tips for a while. I'm not even clapping for the member, I'm clapping cos I think it creates a very minor but easy way of assisting/maintaining a positive, friendly attitude in the room and some recognition that tipping is a good thing. If there's going to be 20 other claps however, no I probably won't clap at the next tip.

 

[LacieLaPlante]

Anything to embarrass me will stop the show and change my mood.

Like tonight I have been fighting a spot on my bum and It's not enough of anything to call a pimple, not even a bump a red spot at most, but obviously I'm not going to be happy with a spot on my bum!

Tonight someone royally pissed me off and changed my mood, a regular of mine even, by turning it into a HUGE debacle. Changed his name to buttpimple, pointed it out, tried to make jokes like I was a dirty person and didn't wash my butt enough.

In the end I raged and he told me I couldn't take a joke, but I was already insecure about this. I was feeling sexy, now I feel gross. All because of one little "joke"

 

[Nordling]

Anything to embarrass me will stop the show and change my mood.

Like tonight I have been fighting a spot on my bum and It's not enough of anything to call a pimple, not even a bump a red spot at most, but obviously I'm not going to be happy with a spot on my bum!

Tonight someone royally pissed me off and changed my mood, a regular of mine even, by turning it into a HUGE debacle. Changed his name to buttpimple, pointed it out, tried to make jokes like I was a dirty person and didn't wash my butt enough.

In the end I raged and he told me I couldn't take a joke, but I was already insecure about this. I was feeling sexy, now I feel gross. All because of one little "joke"

I hope you banned his trolling butt. Making folks feel crappy is no joke.

 

[hornygods]

Oh, that reminds me - excuses. It's better to apologize than to rationalize. Rationalization implies that the member still thinks they're in the 'right' position. An apology implies the acceptance of making mistakes, like every other person on the planet. It's annoying enough that someone posts blowjob emotes in public chat, but it just gets infuriating when they try to justify it.

Excuses are not sexy - nor is silence, disrespect, or being an insensitive jerk-off.

 

[Jessi]

"I cant tip because my parents didnt give me any money this week/my hours got cut back/my dog is sick/money is tight/blahblah" Maybe they are trying to be nice, but honestly it translates into "For some reason I'm special enough to not have to pay for my entertainment"
Dont tell me WHY, I didn't ask and don't want to know! Most models don't care and probably think you're making stuff up anyways. If you can't tip, then just participate in the conversation and stfu about your tokens.

 

[LailaBaise]

"I cant tip because...

...I spent all my tokens on someone else.

 

[LindseyDoll]

"I cant tip because my parents didnt give me any money this week/my hours got cut back/my dog is sick/money is tight/blahblah" Maybe they are trying to be nice, but honestly it translates into "For some reason I'm special enough to not have to pay for my entertainment"

This! This is a big one for me. If you don't have tokens fine, please don't talk about tokens. I don't really need to know that you lost your job, you don't want to use your credit card because your wife can see the bill etc. Even worse are the members who basically say that they never intend to tip me because my camscore is low. Low camscore models apparently "don't care about being tipped." That one cuts to the bone because I'm trying so hard, everynight, to raise that magical number that apparently tells people how much I'm worth.

 

[Jupiter551]

Anything to embarrass me will stop the show and change my mood.

Like tonight I have been fighting a spot on my bum and It's not enough of anything to call a pimple, not even a bump a red spot at most, but obviously I'm not going to be happy with a spot on my bum!

Tonight someone royally pissed me off and changed my mood, a regular of mine even, by turning it into a HUGE debacle. Changed his name to buttpimple, pointed it out, tried to make jokes like I was a dirty person and didn't wash my butt enough.

In the end I raged and he told me I couldn't take a joke, but I was already insecure about this. I was feeling sexy, now I feel gross. All because of one little "joke"

I hope you banned his trolling butt. Making folks feel crappy is no joke.

Nice, I like you how worked in the joke about her butt

 

[Jupiter551]

"I cant tip because my parents didnt give me any money this week/my hours got cut back/my dog is sick/money is tight/blahblah" Maybe they are trying to be nice, but honestly it translates into "For some reason I'm special enough to not have to pay for my entertainment"
Dont tell me WHY, I didn't ask and don't want to know! Most models don't care and probably think you're making stuff up anyways. If you can't tip, then just participate in the conversation and stfu about your tokens.

I agree that it's not a good idea for members to reference tokens they don't have or whatever, but also think it's worth noting that they probably do it (if it's an occasional thing) out of guilt that they're NOT able to pay for their entertainment - which is still a large conceptual step-up from the hordes of bastards who can pay, but have no compunction about staying basic/guest/freeloader because they feel zero guilt at all.

 

[hornygods]

@Jup - even with the best of intentions, by trying to justify lack of tokens - it implies that the member still feels that the model ought to give a freebie out of pity or guilt. It would only frustrate the model, even if that wasn't the case. To highlight the lack of tokens being spent is like highlighting that a poor man is poor, or something to a similar effect.

Even if we grant that the member does have legitimate reasons for not having the money to spend on the models they love - the members should realize that MFC is a luxury, and that they really shouldn't be complaining if they don't have money to spend. If they can't tip, then at least talk a bit. If they can't tip, maintaining a nice vibe to encourage others to tip is almost as good. Heck, even if these tippers don't turn up, at least it keeps the model sane for another day.

 

[Diana Blake]

@Jup - even with the best of intentions, by trying to justify lack of tokens - it implies that the member still feels that the model ought to give a freebie out of pity or guilt. It would only frustrate the model, even if that wasn't the case. To highlight the lack of tokens being spent is like highlighting that a poor man is poor, or something to a similar effect.

Even if we grant that the member does have legitimate reasons for not having the money to spend on the models they love - the members should realize that MFC is a luxury, and that they really shouldn't be complaining if they don't have money to spend. If they can't tip, then at least talk a bit. If they can't tip, maintaining a nice vibe to encourage others to tip is almost as good. Heck, even if these tippers don't turn up, at least it keeps the model sane for another day.

This is a good point and I'd also like to add...telling a girl you can't tip really leaves us in a bad place. Basically, if we don't ban the guy we're passively telling the rest of the room that it's okay to not spend their tokens. Personally, I don't like banning just because a guy can't tip and I'll usually go: "That's okay, tip me the next time you can" but that leads to several of the jackasses in the room thinking. "Well, if he doesn't have to pay why do I?" I would really prefer for guys to not mention it even if they are feeling guilty because it just leads to the idea that it's okay to watch me without paying me.

 

[RogueWarrior]

@Jup - even with the best of intentions, by trying to justify lack of tokens - it implies that the member still feels that the model ought to give a freebie out of pity or guilt. It would only frustrate the model, even if that wasn't the case. To highlight the lack of tokens being spent is like highlighting that a poor man is poor, or something to a similar effect.

Even if we grant that the member does have legitimate reasons for not having the money to spend on the models they love - the members should realize that MFC is a luxury, and that they really shouldn't be complaining if they don't have money to spend. If they can't tip, then at least talk a bit. If they can't tip, maintaining a nice vibe to encourage others to tip is almost as good. Heck, even if these tippers don't turn up, at least it keeps the model sane for another day.

This is a good point and I'd also like to add...telling a girl you can't tip really leaves us in a bad place. Basically, if we don't ban the guy we're passively telling the rest of the room that it's okay to not spend their tokens. Personally, I don't like banning just because a guy can't tip and I'll usually go: "That's okay, tip me the next time you can" but that leads to several of the jackasses in the room thinking. "Well, if he doesn't have to pay why do I?" I would really prefer for guys to not mention it even if they are feeling guilty because it just leads to the idea that it's okay to watch me without paying me.

I would say that information is best left in a tip note.................. :-?

Well now there's a catch 22 isn't it.

Seriously, I never really thought of it that way. Very good point. But, eh, when I don't have tokens, I just generally stay away until the next time I am able to purchase some.

 

[Jupiter551]

Oh I'm not advocating at all telling a model that you're currently watching the what, why or how of being broke - I'm just saying that (assuming they ever have or ever will tip you) that STILL makes them morally superior to that silent fuckwad majority who haven't, never will, and feel zero guilt for enjoying without tipping.

I dunno, while on the one hand I understand it brings the room mood down, puts you in a difficult position, etc - let's be honest, in a room without 50+ premiums it's probably the same 2 or 3 basically paying for a countdown, another 3 or 4 who might throw in a random tip or comment from time to time, and then a large majority of freeloaders who won't say a word, have no tokens (or WORSE have tokens but still won't spend them even though they're enjoying) and basically intend to just sit there and jack off, then leave. I feel like that actually describes the majority of mfc premiums, and 99% of the guests and basics (1% probly just found the site and are actually thinking of going premium).

TL;DR Yeah the guys who say theyre broke and will tip next time are lame, and need to be educated that it has a negative effect to say anything, but they still have more decency than the ones who sit there enjoying for free, without intending to tip at all, and silent. But out of sight out of mind I guess. Sometimes I feel like premiums who make the effort to engage at all are made to feel more like freeloaders than the guests and basics.

 

[Jupiter551]

Personally, I don't like banning just because a guy can't tip and I'll usually go: "That's okay, tip me the next time you can" but that leads to several of the jackasses in the room thinking. "Well, if he doesn't have to pay why do I?" I would really prefer for guys to not mention it even if they are feeling guilty because it just leads to the idea that it's okay to watch me without paying me.

I hate to rain on your parade, but most of the guys in any given room on mfc don't need someone else to give them the idea that it's okay to watch for free - it's assumed.

 

[camstory]

@Jup - even with the best of intentions, by trying to justify lack of tokens - it implies that the member still feels that the model ought to give a freebie out of pity or guilt.

I agree that if you feel you need to say something, bit your tongue, or call it a night. There is another reason the member might feel the model should be ok with a freebie - b/c he is and has been a good customer. So not guilt nor pity, but b/c he has earned some frequent flyer miles. I don't know if that is any more valid than the others, but it feels like it to me.

 

[Anonymous]

I get this a lot during group.
I'm almost about to cum, half way in the show, a new guy gets in the room and says, "Hey, how are you?"
Really?? REALLY?!

I've seen that happens in rooms before, and it's crazy but funny as hell. Yeah, the model is REALLY gonna stop pleasuring herself so she can tell you about her day. What she had for breakfast...what the weather's like...etc. LOL!


There's a guy in my room who's very nice but keeps asking "How are you?" in different ways, and he likes to co-sign every compliment that other guys give me.

Him: "How are you?"
Me: "I'm doing good."

Him: "So how are things?"
Me: "Everything's cool. How about you?"

Him: "So how have you been doing?"
Me: "You just asked that, silly." :lol:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Other guy: "You have the most amazing smile."
Him: "I agree."

A different guy: "Nice! I'd eat a ham sammich off dat ass."
Him: "^^I agree."

 

[LadyLuna]

Jupiter hun...

Most of the guys who've said that to me, if they didn't have their reward points hidden, when I looked and made note, the next time I looked and made note, the reward points were higher. As in, they say that to me, but then go and get more to spend on their favorite model.

The only ones I've noticed that didn't do that, eventually did end up tipping me. Or were members who had tipped me in the past, but couldn't any more.

 

[Evvie]

TL;DR Yeah the guys who say theyre broke and will tip next time are lame, and need to be educated that it has a negative effect to say anything, but they still have more decency than the ones who sit there enjoying for free, without intending to tip at all, and silent. But out of sight out of mind I guess. Sometimes I feel like premiums who make the effort to engage at all are made to feel more like freeloaders than the guests and basics.

This I think falls in to the category of "things members do that they think are nice, but aren't."

Assuming the member is being truthful about having no tokens to spend (and I'd hazard that on the average day more than a few are), bringing it up will probably just make a model feel badly.

I think most of us already assume that the reason a guy isn't tipping is because he's broke or doesn't feel the need to tip.

I know members say this to try and make us feel better. "You're being sexy and entertaining, but I don't have money," seems like a nice sentiment, but whenever it gets said I feel like I have to forgive them and make them feel better. Then I feel badly because I'm reminded of how many people aren't tipping, and it makes me feel awkward.

 

[Jupiter551]

LL and Evvie, I know, and you're right and because I'm around ladies like you on these forums I've known for a long time now that making a point of telling a model you don't have tokens is something that upsets them.

The thing is though, in case you don't already I think you should tell them off for that - I've seen Amber do it, publicly - because guys genuinely don't realise it's a faux-pas. Maybe we're more straightforward, or guys don't think like girls do, or just don't think like models do, or are just plain insensitive - but I think most of us will stop the behaviour once it's explained that you don't like it.

And I still think the silent freeloaders get away with (silent) murder :violence-blades:

 

[Autumn_LoL]

This isn't a turnoff. This is a major psychotic fucking hatred.

George Carlinnnn.

 

[spikyhaired]

But basically anything that takes the model away from her work. [emp added] To tell you the truth I don't want the model to focus on anything but what she is doing. It would be just fine with me if there were some way that the model could mute chat and the tip tone for the duration of the show.

Agreed.

Perhaps MFC could add another option to the tip dialogue that would (a) not trigger the tip sound and (b) show the tip to the model in a different color indicating the user doesn't expect acknowledgement, like the options to tip anonymously or to show tip notes in public chat.

When a model is dancing around the room or otherwise intent on something away from the monitor, I agree it breaks the flow when she has to stop every 10 seconds to look at the screen and acknowledge tips. I (almost) feel bad for tipping in situations like that.

Of course, I realize there are probably 10 gazillion other features MFC admins, models, and other members would like to see before something like this.

 

[Jessi]

Wandering into group while Im SECONDS away from climax (and quite obviously too) "OH HAY, YOURE CANADIAN? WHERE ARE YOU FROM? IM FROM THUNDER BAY!"
Orgasm wasn't ruined luckily

 

[hornygods]

I'm not too sure how much of a showstopper this is, but when I'm spying on a show and the member loses connection from having too few tokens - that's a bit of a turn off. It happened right before climaxing too. :why:

 

[Diana Blake]

I'm not too sure how much of a showstopper this is (philosophical, almost), but when I'm spying on a show and the member loses connection from having too few tokens. It happened right before climaxing too. :why

This pisses me off so much! I'll get nice and comfy, get all worked up and just before I cum…BAM! Ended private because the dude either came the moment he saw me naked or only had like four minutes of tokens. :angry4: I feel like I've gotten seriously cockblocked and then I have an angry throbbing pissed off labia until I finally get to cum and that could be hours later.!

 

[hornygods]

I'd personally suggest climaxing anyway (without them) - don't make yourself feel like a dirty unwanted rag :\