The new trend... Models posting pics of their kids...

[Bocefish]

@Bocefish, dogs aren't the same as human children. It's a different issue.

They're not? My point is models can't control what kind of deviants are watching or what innocent action may get who off. I do agree that if it's going to be more than a one time thing, it should be taken to some other venue away from adult sites where you know who you're dealing with and clearly know what their intentions are.

 

[bob]

obviously i'm not a model, ashlee....but yeah....a lot of models watch others models regularly, but i've never heard any one of them say they do it to "police" the site....they do it to learn, they do it because they're curious, they do it to perv maybe too

LOL the models aren't going to tell you the "bad" reasons they might watch. Maybe they are jealous of the girl. Or they had some sort of falling out. Drama is everywhere, and stuff like this fuels it. But members should also be more aware that a lot of models do "hate stalk" other models. And some of them are good at hiding it.

we do have a wildly different approaches to this issue, it seems.....i thought it was pretty clear what "policing" the site inferred....but your response addressed the "model drama" on the site....which can be pretty intense and vindictive....it would seem then that you see this topic as more or less an offshoot of model drama, which makes your earlier comment about having "better things to do than deal with this kind of thing" (my paraphrase) a whole lot more understandable

I will also say again, ACTUAL kid on cam is awful. Picture of kid on cam... well you're pushing it, but not the end of the world, again. MFC did ban a girl for having pictures on the wall though. Someone must have really wanted her gone.

or that MFC was practicing "consistently enforcing it's rules" for a change :lol:
speculation works both ways :whistle:

but i'm curious now....does "awful" mean that it's important enough for you to report?

 

[JickyJuly]

What you just said is exactly why I stopped trying to adamantly "hide" her.
It makes your child a commodity.

Your child has no business being a commodity on a pornographic website. NO ONE has a right to use a child as a "commodity" this way. In no way is that just sharing your kid unwisely because you have a false sense of security on MFC. That's called pimping your kid one 8x10 at a time. That is the exact problem. Just using the word commodity in reference toward your daughter pushes you over the line into something disgusting.

 

[AmazingAshlee]

What you just said is exactly why I stopped trying to adamantly "hide" her.
It makes your child a commodity.

Your child has no business being a commodity on a pornographic website. NO ONE has a right to use a child as a "commodity" this way. In no way is that just sharing your kid unwisely because you have a false sense of security on MFC. That's called pimping your kid one 8x10 at a time. That is the exact problem. Just using the word commodity in reference toward your daughter pushes you over the line into something disgusting.

You should really think before jumping to nasty conclusions. I do not WANT my child to be a "commodity". Therefore, I don't say to the room when she is brought up "STOP TALKING ABOUT HER OMG". Because when I did, I got the opposite results.
Think about this: Why do non nude models do so well? Because they sell the tease. Whether you like it or not, people are going to see "your child" as something to gain bits of access to just because you don't want them to. If you can't accept that, maybe you are the one that doesn't belong.

I have never once claimed to be perfect. And I sure did try things your way. You're barking up the wrong tree. That no tolerance attitude will only attract assholes and jerks.

No one even know I had a kid for a long long time. I was "Paranoid Girl" about her, nudity, shows, everything for months. Everything I have I actually earned the hard way- through experience. I wouldn't be taking the time to share all of this if I didn't believe that others go through the same thing and might be able to learn something from my experiences.


Bob, yes, that's what I feel the topic started as.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Ashlee, maybe your room is magical and you don't get the pervs the way some of us do and if that's the case, well then I envy you. I have had people blatantly fish for information about my son. I have had people that I had never spoken to ask me to show him off or to go and get him to show live. I get a slew of people on a regular basis that want me to talk about mother/son ageplay in which they're very young. Maybe I'm just jaded.

I would be more than willing to talk with you in more detail outside the forum. I used to get this all the time. It really just comes down to the way you deal with their behavior.
What you just said is exactly why I stopped trying to adamantly "hide" her.
It makes your child a commodity.

We really have two different views here because what I just said is the exact reason why I clam up about my son. I'm not saying that anyone should have to hide their kid, but I believe in setting limits. My hard limits are images, videos and live kid on cam. If asked, I'll say that I have a 2-year old boy and then redirect the conversation elsewhere. I never let it get further.


ETA: If you don't want people to think you're trying to make your child a commodity, I suggest you re-read what you type before hitting submit. I don't say this to be a bitch or to attack you, just to gently remind you that text is very easy to misinterpret.

 

[AmazingAshlee]

we do have a wildly different approaches to this issue, it seems.....i thought it was pretty clear what "policing" the site inferred....but your response addressed the "model drama" on the site....which can be pretty intense and vindictive....it would seem then that you see this topic as more or less an offshoot of model drama, which makes your earlier comment about having "better things to do than deal with this kind of thing" (my paraphrase) a whole lot more understandable


YES! It quite possibly could be, or others might use it that way.

I will also say again, ACTUAL kid on cam is awful. Picture of kid on cam... well you're pushing it, but not the end of the world, again. MFC did ban a girl for having pictures on the wall though. Someone must have really wanted her gone.

or that MFC was practicing "consistently enforcing it's rules" for a change :lol:
speculation works both ways :whistle:

but i'm curious now....does "awful" mean that it's important enough for you to report?

And I would absolutely 100% report an ACTUAL child on cam. As I would if I saw a model having sex with a dog.

We really have two different views here because what I just said is the exact reason why I clam up about my son. I'm not saying that anyone should have to hide their kid, but I believe in setting limits. My hard limits are images, videos and live kid on cam. If asked, I'll say that I have a 2-year old boy and then redirect the conversation elsewhere. I never let it get further.

That's honestly the best way to handle it with random members and how I do too. I'm not saying go crazy showing off your whole life. But when regulars start asking and you shut them down, they will either a) move on to someone who isn't so nervous and skittish ; b) enjoy that you are uncomfortable and troll you (could actually be a perv) ; or c) they could respect that and be awesome. c's are pretty rare. Most guys are a's.
Ease into it. When a regular asks a question about your kid, and hes been around for a good while, he just wants to know more about you. He does not want to fap to them. Test the waters by changing how you see things and see how your room magically changes.

 

[JickyJuly]

What you just said is exactly why I stopped trying to adamantly "hide" her.
It makes your child a commodity.

Your child has no business being a commodity on a pornographic website. NO ONE has a right to use a child as a "commodity" this way. In no way is that just sharing your kid unwisely because you have a false sense of security on MFC. That's called pimping your kid one 8x10 at a time. That is the exact problem. Just using the word commodity in reference toward your daughter pushes you over the line into something disgusting.

You should really think before jumping to nasty conclusions. I do not WANT my child to be a "commodity". Therefore, I don't say to the room when she is brought up "STOP TALKING ABOUT HER OMG". Because when I did, I got the opposite results.
Think about this: Why do non nude models do so well? Because they sell the tease. Whether you like it or not, people are going to see "your child" as something to gain bits of access to just because you don't want them to. If you can't accept that, maybe you are the one that doesn't belong.

I have never once claimed to be perfect. And I sure did try things your way. You're barking up the wrong tree. That no tolerance attitude will only attract assholes and jerks.

No one even know I had a kid for a long long time. I was "Paranoid Girl" about her, nudity, shows, everything for months. Everything I have I actually earned the hard way- through experience. I wouldn't be taking the time to share all of this if I didn't believe that others go through the same thing and might be able to learn something from my experiences.


Bob, yes, that's what I feel the topic started as.

I'm relieved that wasn't what you meant, and sorry for taking it that way. However, the idea that showing photos will somehow lessen the instances in which members bring up your kid is pretty ridiculous. That is how I ended up thinking that your plan to show your child on camera was linked to making her more of a commodity. Why is it that you feel the need to pander to the people asking about your child at all? If you're giving into them for tokens instead of banning them or telling them that your child is off limits, you're still pimping your kid whether that is your intention or not.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Why do non nude models do so well? Because they sell the tease. Whether you like it or not, people are going to see "your child" as something to gain bits of access to just because you don't want them to. If you can't accept that, maybe you are the one that doesn't belong.

Woah there. There's a world of difference between wondering what a grown woman looks like naked and wanting to "gain bits of access" to a model's child simply because she "doesn't want you to". One of these things is perfectly understandable, the other is fucking psychotic :?

 

[AllisonWilder]

Ashlee, I've talked in-depth to two members about my son before leaving MFC. Great guys with whom I've had many lengthy Skype video chats with (that were not at all of a sexual nature). I now work on Streamate where I'm not required to be as social with my guys and share so much of me. We BS, we laugh, we have fun, but at the end of the day, it's just sex and entertainment and my kid doesn't come up. Just because I don't feel like it's necessary to chit-chat about my kid while I'm literally working my ass off doesn't make me nervous or skittish, it just means that I want to work and then log off and go play with my kid. I just like my worlds separate.

 

[Evvie]

Why do non nude models do so well? Because they sell the tease. Whether you like it or not, people are going to see "your child" as something to gain bits of access to just because you don't want them to. If you can't accept that, maybe you are the one that doesn't belong.

Woah there. There's a world of difference between wondering what a grown woman looks like naked and wanting to "gain bits of access" to a model's child simply because she "doesn't want you to". One of these things is perfectly understandable, the other is fucking psychotic :?

There is a huge difference between, "oh tee-hee, my shirt is just a little see-through and I bet that drives you wild!" And, "My child is completely off-limits and I will not accept any questions or conversation about her, period."

In the first case, it's a good thing when men go crazy and want more.
In the second case, the man who sees a personal boundary and forcibly tries to cross it is either a sadist or a stalker, and they should not be tolerated.

The answer is to ban men who ask questions about a clearly zero-tolerance topic. WHY would you say, "I don't want to talk about my kid" and then allow anyone who stays to keep bringing it up? I wouldn't tolerate that with my fucking dog if I didn't want anyone to talk about her. It is YOUR room, and YOU get to decide what they talk about. I would kick someone out for talking bad about Pepsi-Cola if I so chose. My room, my rules.

 

[AmazingAshlee]

I'm relieved that wasn't what you meant, and sorry for taking it that way. However, the idea that showing photos will somehow lessen the instances in which members bring up your kid is pretty ridiculous. That is how I ended up thinking that your plan to show your child on camera was linked to making her more of a commodity. Why is it that you feel the need to pander to the people asking about your child at all? If you're giving into them for tokens instead of banning them or telling them that your child is off limits, you're still pimping your kid whether that is your intention or not.

I think that whole text to brain/translation thing is what is preventing me from making my point here clearly. While I understand so well where you are coming from, the last post that I edited should clear that up. The only things that can make me want to trust a member enough to share details of my life are TIME and RESPECT. This isn't me bringing up my kid all the, this is them wanting to know about me and my life. I'm a mom, and that's pretty much it. What the hell else am I supposed to tell them about me? I didn't even tweet about her 2 year birthday this past week, as much as I wanted to... Because I do everything in my power to avoid "pimping" her.

Just because I don't feel like it's necessary to chit-chat about my kid while I'm literally working my ass off doesn't make me nervous or skittish, it just means that I want to work and then log off and go play with my kid. I just like my worlds separate.

I have considered being this way. A LOT. I did it for 3 months, and have thought about going to Streammate to start fresh. But at the end of the day, I like the way things are now that I've worked out the kinks. It doesnt come overnight. And in your case, you're right to just change topics and keep things outside of your "work area". But my room does not usually ooze sexuality, because I do not play often. Sometimes I don't even get naked. The guys who tip on MFC, regulars, are not usually in it for the sex part as much as getting to know another real live person and following her on her journey.

 

[AmazingAshlee]

Why do non nude models do so well? Because they sell the tease. Whether you like it or not, people are going to see "your child" as something to gain bits of access to just because you don't want them to. If you can't accept that, maybe you are the one that doesn't belong.

Woah there. There's a world of difference between wondering what a grown woman looks like naked and wanting to "gain bits of access" to a model's child simply because she "doesn't want you to". One of these things is perfectly understandable, the other is fucking psychotic :?

There is a huge difference between, "oh tee-hee, my shirt is just a little see-through and I bet that drives you wild!" And, "My child is completely off-limits and I will not accept any questions or conversation about her, period."

In the first case, it's a good thing when men go crazy and want more.
In the second case, the man who sees a personal boundary and forcibly tries to cross it is either a sadist or a stalker, and they should not be tolerated.

The answer is to ban men who ask questions about a clearly zero-tolerance topic. WHY would you say, "I don't want to talk about my kid" and then allow anyone who stays to keep bringing it up? I wouldn't tolerate that with my fucking dog if I didn't want anyone to talk about her. It is YOUR room, and YOU get to decide what they talk about. I would kick someone out for talking bad about Pepsi-Cola if I so chose. My room, my rules.

Well DUH I ban some bluefont who just pops in and keeps bringing it up. But if its a regular I have known for three months who asks what color eyes she has, just because they are curious, I am NOT going to jump on their shit. I'd be a broke bitch. I simply say "oh, she has pretty blue eyes like me", and move on with the conversation.

 

[Evvie]

Why do non nude models do so well? Because they sell the tease. Whether you like it or not, people are going to see "your child" as something to gain bits of access to just because you don't want them to. If you can't accept that, maybe you are the one that doesn't belong.

Woah there. There's a world of difference between wondering what a grown woman looks like naked and wanting to "gain bits of access" to a model's child simply because she "doesn't want you to". One of these things is perfectly understandable, the other is fucking psychotic :?

There is a huge difference between, "oh tee-hee, my shirt is just a little see-through and I bet that drives you wild!" And, "My child is completely off-limits and I will not accept any questions or conversation about her, period."

In the first case, it's a good thing when men go crazy and want more.
In the second case, the man who sees a personal boundary and forcibly tries to cross it is either a sadist or a stalker, and they should not be tolerated.

The answer is to ban men who ask questions about a clearly zero-tolerance topic. WHY would you say, "I don't want to talk about my kid" and then allow anyone who stays to keep bringing it up? I wouldn't tolerate that with my fucking dog if I didn't want anyone to talk about her. It is YOUR room, and YOU get to decide what they talk about. I would kick someone out for talking bad about Pepsi-Cola if I so chose. My room, my rules.

Well DUH I ban some bluefont who just pops in and keeps bringing it up. But if its a regular I have known for three months who asks what color eyes she has, just because they are curious, I am NOT going to jump on their shit. I'd be a broke bitch. I simply say "oh, she has pretty blue eyes like me", and move on with the conversation.

Sorry, but you've been making it sound like you got so tired of keeping your life private you decided it was better to share whatever information was requested.

 

[AmazingAshlee]

Well DUH I ban some bluefont who just pops in and keeps bringing it up. But if its a regular I have known for three months who asks what color eyes she has, just because they are curious, I am NOT going to jump on their shit. I'd be a broke bitch. I simply say "oh, she has pretty blue eyes like me", and move on with the conversation.

Sorry, but you've been making it sound like you got so tired of keeping your life private you decided it was better to share whatever information was requested.

Well I'm very sorry you feel that way, but that's not what I am trying to convey at all. If you actually read all of what I said you might get my point. The more you act like a cunt, the more assholes you will have to deal with. I, however, feel that I should be comfortable in my own room. That includes having regulars that actually like me for me and not just my pussy and tits. My child is an extension of me. Just like you said, my room, my rules. I said that already too, way back. You're beating a dead horse.

Yes, when I first started I was overly fearful. But that doesn't mean I was right to be. I had just heard horror stories and read all kinds of things. Then I realized that they weren't after information for those reasons. They just liked me and wanted to know more about me and my life. They are not trying to stalk me, or show up at my house. I weed those guys out fairly quickly. I do not let people walk all over me. I am slow to trust, as I should be. But not every guy is a total perv asshole deserving to be banned just because he wants to know more about me.

I didn't do it to "make my life easier", I did it because I was acting like a nervous, self-absorbed little twat. It is honestly more self-absorbed to sit there and assume they are nuts, than to just answer the question and move on. I am NOT important on the internet, or even MFC. I am just another girl. So are you. The minute you lose that thought process is the minute you begin your own self destruction.

 

[JickyJuly]

Well DUH I ban some bluefont who just pops in and keeps bringing it up. But if its a regular I have known for three months who asks what color eyes she has, just because they are curious, I am NOT going to jump on their shit. I'd be a broke bitch. I simply say "oh, she has pretty blue eyes like me", and move on with the conversation.

Sorry, but you've been making it sound like you got so tired of keeping your life private you decided it was better to share whatever information was requested.

Well I'm very sorry you feel that way, but that's not what I am trying to convey at all. If you actually read all of what I said you might get my point. The more you act like a cunt, the more assholes you will have to deal with. I, however, feel that I should be comfortable in my own room. That includes having regulars that actually like me for me and not just my pussy and tits. My child is an extension of me. Just like you said, my room, my rules. I said that already too, way back. You're beating a dead horse.

Yes, when I first started I was overly fearful. But that doesn't mean I was right to be. I had just heard horror stories and read all kinds of things. Then I realized that they weren't after information for those reasons. They just liked me and wanted to know more about me and my life. They are not trying to stalk me, or show up at my house. I weed those guys out fairly quickly. I do not let people walk all over me. I am slow to trust, as I should be. But not every guy is a total perv asshole deserving to be banned just because he wants to know more about me.

I didn't do it to "make my life easier", I did it because I was acting like a nervous, self-absorbed little twat. It is honestly more self-absorbed to sit there and assume they are nuts, than to just answer the question and move on. I am NOT important on the internet, or even MFC. I am just another girl. So are you. The minute you lose that thought process is the minute you begin your own self destruction.

You have every right to share yourself with the world whichever way you see fit, but that right is trumped by your child's right to anonymity and your duty as a parent not to expose her to porn. If you can't find a way to do camming and protect your kid the way that you should (and are LEGALLY OBLIGATED to), camming should be the thing to go. There's nothing cunty about setting boundaries that don't allow your kid to be exposed that way. There's no reason to show ANY member no matter how many tokens he has or how long you've gotten to know each other a photo of your child via your MFC broadcast. I know I'm beating a dead horse maniacally at this point, but I just feel desperate to believe that there aren't women who actually feel that this sort of behavior is acceptable. This whole conversation has to be some sort of miscommunication or something please.

 

[AllisonWilder]

I disagree. The moment you start believing that you're just another girl and that you're not important on MFC or wherever you cam from or the internet in general is when you begin your self-destruction. It's foolish to believe that there isn't someone lurking about your chat, good friend/regular or random guest that has stalkerish tendencies or worse because you are quick to ban guys that raise red flags for you. What about the guy that never talks?

Do I let that scary possibility stop me from getting on cam and working it? No, I don't but I am always aware that the possibility exists. I'm not paranoid and I don't check over my shoulder thinking someone is out to get me, but I do go out of my way to protect what I can of my identity and my security. Kid included.

You might believe you're just another girl, but to someone else, well, you could be their whole world and you don't know what kind of crazy comes with that.

 

[AmazingAshlee]

You all seem so sure that I personally am "exposing" way too much. I still don't feel that I do. You can disagree, but I'd prefer you at least look into it before jumping to conclusions. You don't know me.
This is a sensitive topic, and I'm sure it that many girls reading who haven't spoken up have strong opinions about it. I am showing you the other side of the coin, people who actually deal with this issue. You can continue to bash me, but I stand by what I said. Until you can be on my side of the fence, who are you to tell me what to do or police me? I do not show my child on cam. I am not breaking any rules. I really don't show pictures on cam, though I did make that mistake a long time ago. You may think I'm the worst mother in the world for that. That's your opinion. I am not going to beat myself up over it just because you think I should.

Personally, I thought long and hard after that and decided that was pushing it FOR ME. There's not really anything wrong with it in my mind, it just wasn't something I wanted to do. I drew my line. Are there girls that don't? Yes. But the members will do all the work for you. No need to report them. Cause those kind of girls have more issues than just a pic of a kid on cam EVERYTIME. They will get theirs, don't you worry. You shouldn't try to mess with someone's job just because you are feeling self-righteous. My child is fed, happy, healthy, and safe. I am proud of the job I am doing as a single mother. It's hard, but I do my best. I feel enough guilt when I am not a perfect mother. I don't need you or anyone else to tell me that I am not perfect. I KNOW. So, go watch someone who appeals to you, there is no reason tear people down unnecessarily by making their life harder. Once again, it's just catty. I feel catty even participating in this discussion, but someone has to be the bad guy. Might as well be me!

I know the risks of being a camgirl. I signed up anyway. So did you. Now stop fretting and let me be. If my actions cause me harm or my daughter harm, I'd be the one dealing with the consequences, not you. I am a grown up, I make (mostly) responsible choices, and I admit when I am wrong and learn from my mistakes. I already have one restraining order from behaving exactly as you guys suggested within my personal life. Banning isn't gonna stop a guy who wants to hurt you or know more. Run your own room as you choose. Let others run theirs as they choose.

 

[Anonymous]

I honestly don't see a problem if a model is having a discussion with her room, fully clothed, and shows a picture of her child. While MFC is a porn site, at that moment, her room is not displaying porn. Are there pedophiles on cam sites? Unfortunatley yes there are, but they are everywhere then. I hardly think that pedophiles are jumping from room to room to room looking for models displaying a picture of their child for 2 seconds. There are much easier places for them to find what they are looking for; they can be watching your child walk down the street, they can be your neighbour, they can be trolling your unprotected facebook account, they can be looking at the sears catalogue, they are watching diaper comercials on tv.

I've been in Ashlee's room when she showed a picture of her daughter, it was done tastefully and in a context that was entirely appropriate. Nobody had an issue with it, and no rude comments were made. How is it any different than showing somebody at a party that you've just met a picture of your children?

 

[VeronicaChaos]

OK I can't stay away any further.

I think what makes it wrong is the fact that THERE ARE MEMBERS FAPPING. Watching you, and fapping. Do you have to be doing anything sexual? No. They can be watching from the lounge, clicking next model over with their dick in their hand, and suddenly there's a picture of a kid, and they're fapping. Regardless of if there aren't any pedophiles watching, do you really want someone to accidentally fap to your child?


About the animals thing: I'm 100% positive that members have inevitably been caught fapping while my cats are being shown, but I consider that different, because they are not humans, they are animals. My cats wouldn't care. They are cats.

 

[Deleted member 8603]

OK I can't stay away any further.

I think what makes it wrong is the fact that THERE ARE MEMBERS FAPPING. Watching you, and fapping. Do you have to be doing anything sexual? No. They can be watching from the lounge, clicking next model over with their dick in their hand, and suddenly there's a picture of a kid, and they're fapping. Regardless of if there aren't any pedophiles watching, do you really want someone to accidentally fap to your child?


About the animals thing: I'm 100% positive that members have inevitably been caught fapping while my cats are being shown, but I consider that different, because they are not humans, they are animals. My cats wouldn't care. They are cats.

Exactly what I was going to say.
My dog isn't going to happen upon a video of me in the future showing pictures of him on camera.
He won't feel used and disgusted upon finding out that he's been in pornography.
It's a human being, if people want to equate them to pets, you already have an issue.
I know if I were watching porn and suddenly a picture of a kid popped up, I'd be DISTURBED.

There's a reason porn sites ask if you're 18. Because kids shouldn't have any part in porn.
PERIOD.
Its cool if you have kids. Its cool if you're proud of them.
But showing them to guys who have their dicks in their hands is a fucking retarded thing to do.

 

[Stellar_Chick]

I think showing off pics of your kids should be reserved for facebook or something where its your friends & family. You can even join a babysite!! Im a very proud mom of an almost 6 month old who is rediculously cute but I refuse to show her picture on an adult website. I dont even say her name. Im guilty of bringing up a short story every now & then but thats as far as I go.

As a mother its your job to protect your child. You hear all the stories about guys stalking models but what happens when some perv sees a pic of your kid & decides to stalk them? Showing that cute picture of them wouldnt seem like such a good idea afterall. Kids are so vulnerable & cant protect themselves as well as we can. Theres a reason why these sites have such strict rules regarding children.

Being a proud mom shouldnt be a reason to be showing your kid off on a pornographic website. There are plenty of other websites that are kid orientated that you can do that on.

 

[bob]

Why do non nude models do so well? Because they sell the tease. Whether you like it or not, people are going to see "your child" as something to gain bits of access to just because you don't want them to. If you can't accept that, maybe you are the one that doesn't belong.

Woah there. There's a world of difference between wondering what a grown woman looks like naked and wanting to "gain bits of access" to a model's child simply because she "doesn't want you to". One of these things is perfectly understandable, the other is fucking psychotic :?

There is a huge difference between, "oh tee-hee, my shirt is just a little see-through and I bet that drives you wild!" And, "My child is completely off-limits and I will not accept any questions or conversation about her, period."

In the first case, it's a good thing when men go crazy and want more.
In the second case, the man who sees a personal boundary and forcibly tries to cross it is either a sadist or a stalker, and they should not be tolerated.

The answer is to ban men who ask questions about a clearly zero-tolerance topic. WHY would you say, "I don't want to talk about my kid" and then allow anyone who stays to keep bringing it up? I wouldn't tolerate that with my fucking dog if I didn't want anyone to talk about her. It is YOUR room, and YOU get to decide what they talk about. I would kick someone out for talking bad about Pepsi-Cola if I so chose. My room, my rules.

Well DUH I ban some bluefont who just pops in and keeps bringing it up. But if its a regular I have known for three months who asks what color eyes she has, just because they are curious, I am NOT going to jump on their shit. I'd be a broke bitch. I simply say "oh, she has pretty blue eyes like me", and move on with the conversation.

ok...i'm starting to get your personal pov....one way to approach videochat -with or without body parts- is that it is simply about relationship....some are short term, maybe recurring, and are limited to body parts....others are more substantial.

for myself, i'm in favor of zero tolerance....the idea of talking about kids in free chat sends a chill up my spine
but having said that, i must be a pedofile, because i have developed relationships with models who have kids....and seen pics of them
but NEVER in chat....the conversation always starts in PM and has ended in mfc mail, offsite, or in private....pics just ended up being a logical extension of the conversation....by the time it gets to that place, tho, i'm just talking to someone on the internet (even if i'm paying for it :lol.....and i would have to be reminded that i'm on an "adult site"

 

[LadyLuna]

I'm going to start this by saying: I have no hidden meanings behind my words. These are not sarcastic. I truly mean every word I've written, and I have no bad feelings towards you at all.

I really don't show pictures on cam.

I am glad you don't anymore. Hopefully nothing bad comes of the earlier mistake.

You shouldn't try to mess with someone's job just because you are feeling self-righteous.

This isn't about feeling self-righteous. This is about protecting children. For the record, I've never reported a model for anything, because I haven't seen anything I felt worth reporting. Oh sure, a few public shows I've accidentally stumbled upon, but I haven't seen the pet stuff or kid stuff anywhere.

My child is fed, happy, healthy, and safe. I am proud of the job I am doing as a single mother. It's hard, but I do my best.

No one is saying that single mothers shouldn't be camgirls. A number of the camgirls replying in this thread are mothers. I'm not one of them. I'm one of the people who wasn't protected enough as a small child, and though that had nothing to do with sexuality or porn, I am very protective of children.

I feel enough guilt when I am not a perfect mother. I don't need you or anyone else to tell me that I am not perfect. I KNOW.

We aren't saying you're a horrible person for not being perfect. And you have admitted that it was a mistake for you to show the pictures, so I commend you for that. We live, we learn, we move on.

So, go watch someone who appeals to you, there is no reason tear people down unnecessarily by making their life harder. Once again, it's just catty.

Once again, it's just protecting the children.

I feel catty even participating in this discussion, but someone has to be the bad guy. Might as well be me!

*hugs* playing devil's advocate is a hard role. Don't get too caught up in it though!

I know the risks of being a camgirl. I signed up anyway. So did you. Now stop fretting and let me be. If my actions cause me harm or my daughter harm, I'd be the one dealing with the consequences, not you.

I sincerely hope that nothing happens to your daughter from your mistakes. I'm sure you do as well, please don't take this as me condemning you! One of the reasons I haven't had children yet is because I'm terrified of how much damage I could do to them from making mistakes. Maybe one day I'll be able to take the plunge. I always did want kids.

I am a grown up, I make (mostly) responsible choices, and I admit when I am wrong and learn from my mistakes.

Seriously, learning from mistakes is something not everyone seems to have gotten the hang of.

I already have one restraining order from behaving exactly as you guys suggested within my personal life. Banning isn't gonna stop a guy who wants to hurt you or know more.

It's so sad that this is a truth.

Run your own room as you choose. Let others run theirs as they choose.

I don't believe this thread was about hunting for people who are doing this. This thread was about someone who was perving on MFC stumbling across it. Whether it was a member or a model is irrelevant. They were a member at that time. I have a member account on MFC. Sometimes, I like to go and watch the models. A few times, I've even masturbated to them, when I had the tokens to join a group show (a rare treat for me).

When I'm on my member account, I'm just another member. I have an obviously female name, so I try to make sure the model is okay with females being in her room, and my member profile does mention that I am a camgirl, but I don't bring it up in public chat, and I don't allow anyone not on my friend's list to pm me. Basically, when I'm on my member account, it's just as much my business as any other member what's going on in this model's room.

MFC relies on the members to police the models. The admin doesn't do it. They rely on members complaining when models break the rules. That's one of the reasons certain rules are cracked down on more than others- the members won't stand for it happening. I think it's a testament to the quality of members that they report models who have a child on camera. It shows that the members who are actually part of the MFC community won't stand for children being anywhere near porn, and that's a good member base to have. Sadly, there are at least 10 times as many members who aren't part of the community.

When I perv, if I see a model with a man on cam, I let it be. If I were to run across a model with a child on camera, or a model doing sexual things with an animal on camera, I would report the model. If I were to see a model with a pic or vid of her child on camera, I'd say something to the model asking her to please not show her child on an adult entertainment site, regardless of how PG her room currently is. If I notice that it's a habit of hers, or she sends insults/curse words my way, I'll report her. (I have a horrible memory, so if I notice it's a habit of hers, I'd have to have seen it at least 20 times.)

 

[JickyJuly]

I don't expect that there are more pedophiles around MFC than around the local shopping mall, but it's an adult site. There's no reason to forget that. No matter what a girl wears or does on cam in her own room, it's a safe bet that at least one idiot is looming waiting for his chance to express something inappropriate. When I had my 1st ultrasound, I wouldn't have shared the photo on MFC for anything, but I did feel comfortable sharing that I am expecting a daughter. My room was very happy for me until one lone goob decided that was an opening to make a comment that sexualized my fetus. If just giving away the gender of an unborn child can open that door, I don't want to think about what visuals can do.

It's also assumable (as a few girls have mentioned) that at least one dude has his dick out. Personally, if I was skipping around MFC tipping and flicking my bean and a picture of a child popped up, I'd feel really upset. Those aren't two things I want in the same sitting. So, even if for some unfathomable reason the idea of your child possibly being used as a fap material doesn't bother you, maybe just respect that most people don't want your kids face up in their sexy business.

All those things aside, age limits for what is broadcast on an adult site exist for a reason. Age limits work in absolutes. Nothing good can come of bending those lines. When I worked at a porn store, VERY often it was necessary to explain to people why their infant or toddler was not welcome in the store. Would an infant be scarred by seeing a parent buy porn and dildos? Probably not. However, allowing a baby in the store would damage the rule itself. On top of the fact that it would be illegal, mess up the vibe of the store and possibly make patrons uncomfortable, it would make it a lot more difficult to enforce the age requirement. So you let an infant in one day, and the next day you could very well be telling a 5 year old to put down the double headed dildo while his Mom is reading the back of "Crack Whore Confidential". Age limits aren't meant to be personal opinions. They're set in place to keep the few places that are for adults only that way.

 

[AmazingAshlee]

First post of this thread.

Has anyone else noticed this? I keep seeing it EVERYWHERE. Twitter, Instagram, ON MFC. Like, I get that a lot of models feel close with their regs, && want to share shit, I am the same way, but posting pics of your kids, really? Another thing I have seen, is models turning the cam around to share videos of their kids, or photos of them with their kids, or with a kid.. WHAT THE FUCK.

Actual child on cam was not her question. She wants to know if this is something she should go out of her way to report. Opinions were asked for, and clearly a lot of you say HELL YES, regardless of the circumstances.

So I just stated my answer, with way too many of my "why's". Probably not, unless there are EXTREME extenuating circumstances. This is my personal opinion. You don't have to like it, nor agree, and it does not make me a horrible mother. I just PERSONALLY wouldn't report a girl for a one time offense with that sort of thing. The end. Back to real life.

 

[Anonymous]

LOL the models aren't going to tell you the "bad" reasons they might watch. Maybe they are jealous of the girl. Or they had some sort of falling out. Drama is everywhere, and stuff like this fuels it. But members should also be more aware that a lot of models do "hate stalk" other models. And some of them are good at hiding it.

You do have a point there. I know a Streamate model who recently got suspended just because her dog came into the cam's view, and she briefly showed her dog affection by rubbing him/her on the head. She doesn't do any sick shit with her dog, and I've seen this model hit GOLD show goals of like $300...$400...and up (which is higher than most SM GOLD show goals). When you're a gorgeous model making lots of money on cam, you're bound to have some jealous haters, and possibly a fellow model looking for a "bad" reason to report you. I've seen some cam models resorting to pretty catty tactics just to try to get ahead. However, I'm pretty sure that the models on here are just trying to help you out, and aren't trying to give you a hard time.

MFC did ban a girl for having pictures on the wall though.

Not sure if you're talking about a model intentionally showing off her child's pictures on her wall, or if the model just didn't think it through when she had the pictures in cam's view (unintentional and unaware). But I do know that when I'm on cam doing my "Ay yo, Mick, how you doin'?" Rocky Balboa impersonation and showing guys my ROCKY poster on the wall, I'm very careful about keeping my son's picture - which is on that same wall - out of the view. Also, when I take pictures with my webcam, I position my laptop and cam so that his picture is far away from cam's view. It doesn't matter how "connected" you may feel to your public chat viewers...some things are best kept private or semi-private, since MFC is a bit different from, say, your personal Facebook page where you communicate with family/friends.

Also, think about all the douchebags who like to brag about having a video of this and that MFC model. Even if you're not a model who does public cum shows, some loser who's never been near pussy since birth may decide to record you doing a naked oil show or something. It'd suck if someone - with the intention of posting the vid elsewhere - just happened to be recording you when you're showing off pictures of the kid.

Someone on here said that guys have asked her to bring her kid on cam. Some dude on Streamate asked me that once too...sick fucker.....

 

[nzhere]

just saw this :shock: opens can of worms!

 

[bob]

just saw this :shock: opens can of worms!

any discussion after that about your post, nz?

can's open....where are the worms? :lol:

 

[Bocefish]

Her FreshMother screen name cracked me up. :lol: Reminded me of Young Frankentstein when Igor goes past the fresh brains... and grabs this:

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Now that brain that you gave me. Was it Hans Delbruck’s?

Igor: No.

Frankenstein: Ah! Very good. Would you mind telling me whose brain I did put in?

Igor: Then you won’t be angry?

Frankenstein: I will not be angry!

Igor: Abby Someone.

Frankenstein: Abby Someone. Abby Who?

Igor: Abby Normal.

Frankenstein: Abby Normal.

Igor: I’m almost sure that was the name.

 

[Anonymous]

just saw this :shock: opens can of worms!

Here's the thing. I don't see anything wrong with what she's doing. All she did was mention her baby in her room topic, but she isn't appearing on cam WITH the baby. If a pregnant woman (or woman who's just given birth) is able to squirt milk from her nipples for the guys who may like it, I don't see anything wrong with her taking advantage of that.

And when she goes to feed her baby again (OFF CAM), she'll still keep making enough milk for the baby. So it's not like squirting milk out on cam is gonna make her boobs "dry up" or anything.

Her room topic is no worse than if I made a room topic in April that says "All tokens earned today will help pay for my son's birthday gifts," though the topic may open doors for a bunch of "How old is he?...What's his name?...You still with his dad?, etc." questions.