The Duke Porn Star

[PlayboyMegan]

http://www.wwtdd.com/2014/03/dr-drew-jo ... elf-video/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1726730
http://time.com/30397/duke-porn-star-is ... st-choice/

Thoughts?

 

[ThunderWeasel]

I hope she's being paid well for her ventures onto shows such as Dr. Drew's, because there's little to no chance they'll ever end up NOT slanted to cast her and/or porn in a negative light.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Thoughts?

Her fifteen minutes is almost up and Dr. Drew is a dick. She's already done 25 scenes and still can't afford the 50 grand? Didn't know that she was depressed and suicidal, feel bad for her. Wonder what kind of career she's going for.

 

[BambiPersimmon]

I've really enjoyed the articles Belle Knox has personally written for Jezebel. I think she brings up a lot of good points that people use to shame people in the sex industry, and the hypocrisy of it. That being said, she is human. She is not without fault, but I'd much rather have someone brave enough to start a conversation and take the criticism that comes with it rather than never sharing her story and not generating discussion.

 

[lillyrose]

I think she is amazing, she continues to keep her cool and try to educate people and have calm discussions when people come at her with the usual questions.
I enjoy reading what she writes, i share the same opinions regarding porn/society/feminism, she is able to write them out and has an audience listening.

 

[JickyJuly]

I think she's an embarrassment, and I don't think anyone who works on television should be allowed to call himself a doctor. Her attempts to justify her actions to people who want to mock her and her obvious need for this attention to continue to her own detriment make me sad. She's so young that I suspect the big picture is nowhere on her radar. I kind of want to scoop her up, take her home, bake her some cookies and choke "dr. drew" to death with his own neck tie.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I personally think the more open you are about your job, the less people care. When you try and hide it, people start to make a huge deal about it. It's kind of like picking your wedgie. If you announce it, people just roll their eyes and say nothing. If you try and hide it and get caught, you're the butt of many jokes...pun intended.

 

[Gen]

I think it's nice for her that she's been able to monetize this and build a larger following. I had never heard of her in porn before but I assume this will help her popularity and help her find a job post-grad that obviously doesn't care she was in porn. I'm glad to the media outlets that are seeking out other perspectives though, I feel like we've heard her story a lot now and it really only helps the discussion to include others at this point. I would like to hear from more people who have been in the industry longer, or even people who've retired just because I think we'd get a more honest perspective.

 

[NataliaGrey]

Thoughts?

Her fifteen minutes is almost up and Dr. Drew is a dick. She's already done 25 scenes and still can't afford the 50 grand? Didn't know that she was depressed and suicidal, feel bad for her. Wonder what kind of career she's going for.

She wants to be a lawyer for sex workers.

I don't know what all she did, but it's unsurprising. Newbies generally don't make much, 500-1000 for girl/girl, 1000-1500 for boy/girl, 1500-2000 for anal, even less if there's no penetration, like oral scenes. So if she did all anal scenes at 2k, she'd have enough, but I doubt that's the case. Now that she's kind of famous, I bet she could charge a whole lot more, though.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Thoughts?

Her fifteen minutes is almost up and Dr. Drew is a dick. She's already done 25 scenes and still can't afford the 50 grand? Didn't know that she was depressed and suicidal, feel bad for her. Wonder what kind of career she's going for.

She wants to be a lawyer for sex workers.

I don't know what all she did, but it's unsurprising. Newbies generally don't make much, 500-1000 for girl/girl, 1000-1500 for boy/girl, 1500-2000 for anal, even less if there's no penetration, like oral scenes. So if she did all anal scenes at 2k, she'd have enough, but I doubt that's the case. Now that she's kind of famous, I bet she could charge a whole lot more, though.

I checked out three of her scenes, two b/g and one b/g/g. They were pretty vanilla and wouldn't normally be anything I'd pay much attention to. Belle Knox is hot, but she certainly isn't OMG hottest chick ever hot. In fact, I'd say the vast majority of top models on MFC are hotter. She is pretty much an average porn starlet, and I bet her pay is pretty much what Natalia outlined.

I do find her quite articulate and I think she shows remarkable poise for 19 year old in interviews. I imagine the publicity probably has tripled her salary at least, so I can hardly blame her for enjoying her 15 minutes of fame and capitalizing on it. :twocents-02cents:

 

[PunkInDrublic]

She wants to be a lawyer

huh I suddenly don't feel that bad for her. Seriously tho, that makes me feel even worse. Going to be extremely difficult for her after being in porn.

 

[MrRodry]

Thoughts?

Her video at efkut is hilarious. I hope that people forget about this in a year and she comes back to pursuit her carrer in another university.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

She wants to be a lawyer

huh I suddenly don't feel that bad for her. Seriously tho, that makes me feel even worse. Going to be extremely difficult for her after being in porn.

If she goes into entertainment law, I am not sure it will be huge barrier. There have been several playmates and at least one Penthouse Pet and porn star Victoria Zdork who have gone from adult entertainment to lawyers. Still you are right it certainly limits her ability to get a regular law job. On the other hand the job market for lawyers is so awful, I can't imagine why anyone would go into it.

 

[Zoomer]

I think she's an embarrassment, and I don't think anyone who works on television should be allowed to call himself a doctor.

Your qualification should enable you to be called Dr.

Had I continued down my research path and published a few more academic papers I would have eventually submitted my thesis and have received my Doctorate (if my work was up to the required level of quality and contribution of course). I would have earned that title.

If I subsequently appeared on a TV show (or hosted one) it would not suddenly render all my work irrelevant, or remove said title. If he's actually a doctor - then the right is earned. A doctor of "what" would be my question though I would never go on TV holding a PhD in Computer Science and then ask questions related to medicine, psychology or other matters - as that's not my speciality field!

However, when someone relies upon the qualification - you have an expectation that the person subsequently behaves in a way you expect someone with said qualification. Medical doctors have an ethical code to uphold for starters...

Her attempts to justify her actions to people who want to mock her and her obvious need for this attention to continue to her own detriment make me sad. She's so young that I suspect the big picture is nowhere on her radar. I kind of want to scoop her up, take her home, bake her some cookies and choke "dr. drew" to death with his own neck tie.

Honestly, I've not really listened to any of her interviews - so dangerous to speak! My view was that she's someone who chose to partake in a particular career path for a particular reason - and that's her choice. End of my interest - other than she's super cute

The fact society then find out and are shocked, appalled, supportive, enthusiastic whatever, and wish to then dissect her motivation/reasoning is just how we are. Speaking without watching her interviews is dangerous, but I guess there's a form of "why?" questioning from everyone. But is this focussed upon a form of morbid obsession with individuals in the face of a wider picture? To me that should be - Education - at what cost?

I should watch the interview, but I imagine she positively chose it and enjoys it despite it being a "means to an end". But that doesn't mean a discussion focussing around the plight of thousands who desire (and are capable) of education at the highest level having to do things to achieve it that many of us would say "no" to (and even they may say no to if given the choice). What message does this send out? If she's happy to do this, has it made other girls struggling to make ends meet consider doing something they don't want to do - but are so driven to achieve their dreams they suddenly consider it?

I should watch the interviews, I really should... but oh look, butterflies and sunshine! *heads outside*

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Just to be clear Dr. Drew is not only a really medical doctor, but he is also a Professor of Psychiatry at USC. He has been helping people with addiction problems, including sex problems for 30 years in his clinical practice. He has also and been the host of LoveLine for 30 years,and I remember when MTV first aired the show, it was quite groundbreaking, and I think one of the most useful shows MTV has ever aired.

All that being said his crack 'if he was her dad, he’d be"“chomping down on a cyanide capsule,' was an asshole thing to say and uncharacteristically insensitive on Dr Drew's part. On the other hand, my daughter is on national TV saying she is doing porn cause we can't afford to send her to a good school, is one of those nightmare moments that any parent and certainly any dad would dread. Other than someone telling you that your daughter is dead, in the ICU, or locked up in jail on serious charges, it is about as awful gut shot moment as I can imagine. It punches all the hot buttons, about your role as a provider and a parent. The publicity insure that everybody in your life knows about it and the media is going to be soon camped out your door.

I've watch several interviews and read quite a few article by and about Belle Knox. I am generally sympathetic to how she has handled the situation, but it sure would be nice when she is expressing regrets like she did in the XoJane, she just once mentioned the pain she is putting her parents through.

 

[JickyJuly]

I don't think it's fair to assume her parents are feeling pained, shamed or embarrassed. Those are emotions that relate her actions back to themselves. If they're decent parents, they're probably just worrying for her. If my daughter grew up and did porn, I'd be worried and nothing else. 1. Viral stuff transfers from skin to skin contact and is rampant in porn. 2. Pro porn has directors, crew, budgets and time frames. It seems like the actors could easily feel pressured into going past their comfort zone or hastened to make decisions too quickly. (I don't know if that's true. I don't know much about the creation of pro porn.)

If I was Belle Knox mom, the porn part wouldn't be anywhere on my radar at this point. I'd be far too concerned about her overexposure. Everyone and their grandparents has heard this story. People know who she is and where she is. She's a young girl, on her own for the first time and probably still under the teenage illusion of invincibility. I wouldn't be looking for some poison to drink. I'd be playing body guard, and trying to get her to lay low until some of this blows over.

As far as Dr. Drew goes... I didn't say he wasn't a doctor. I said he shouldn't be allowed to be one. A doctor cracking jokes about suicide to create salacious television is pretty unforgivable. If tacking your credentials up between "Teen Mom" and "Celebrity Rehab" doesn't pervert them past recognition, what does? Either way, he doesn't have much room to judge anyone else for whoring. He's been sucking Viacom's cock for decades. :lol: