Skype shows?

[Jupiter551]

I don't suppose any models accept chores as payment?

 

[lolalaurent]

So how much do you charge?

500 tokens for 15mins? xx

 

[Anonymous]

Just to reiterate, do not accept PayPal for Skype shows. It doesn't matter if you've gotten away with it so far. Knowing what we all know about PayPal, and there being other payment options out there, it would be unwise to STILL allow guys to pay you with it.

Also, when I logged into one of the sites I'm on, they had up an announcement saying that customers are reporting models for accepting PayPal payments. Customers are going straight to Support and telling on the models who accept PayPal. Other models have been fucked over for using PayPal, and that includes models who have a ChipIn on their MFC profiles. How would you feel if you did a toy show for a guy on Skype, and then afterwards he reported you to PayPal, got his money back, and PayPal suspended and fined you? You've just been screwed...twice.

 

[CuteAlyce]

Now skype suports full hd if you have a HD webcam and at least 2 mb upload so i think the prices for skype shows can go a little higher.So if they want quality they must pay.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

skype shows allow me to lower prices and offer things like 'non nude chat' and 'nude chat' without it being a full on show. So i can lower the prices for those.

Skype shows through paypal or payoneer are a huge chunk of side change for me. Especially longer ones - i regularly get 1-3 hour bookings from some guys. I can offer 'bulk discounts' for these regulars too, which i think is fair and keeps them coming back (paypal got shut down btw - but i was smart about it and moved my money out every time. I don't regret using it for the last year... it was a huge chunk of change I made through it. Just be informed and protect your money and don't whine when they shut you down)

They don't get a recording of their private to watch, which many members like about privates on MFC though. One way around that is to charge a little extra to set up a video camera on a tripod just above your cam and record it. There are also programs that record skype, which i know zilch about.

 

[Anonymous]

This is the warning that AdultCamGirlsNetwork has up when models log into their account:
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PAYPAL
We have seen an unfortunate rash of customers contacting support about models taking paypal payments recently. Our policy with using outside payments has always been clear and as such we have upgraded our policy to ZERO TOLERANCE! If you are found to be using an outside payment system when the customer clearly came from our network your account will be terminated instantly, further more you will not be eligible for re-approval. This new policy is for YOUR protection! It protects models and customers from a bad show experience. Further more we support paypals policy of non adult transactions and will forward any valid information including paypal email to paypal for their investigation.
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Models who choose to continue to accept PayPal payments, despite everything that's been said about it on the forums...you've been warned, ladies. Good luck.

 

[thesxuldv8]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of. I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business. its like a friend of mine that is in the porn industry pointed out, MFC can't tell you you can't make porn or be in movies and they sure don't get a cut of her pay when she does make movies so why should SKype be different. Its not that I want a model to get in trouble, I don't but I don't believe MFC deserves half of my tokens for a model using an application they don't own. I'm sure there is legal language written in the contracts models sign up for but IMO its BS. you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

 

[jamesrobert]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of. I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business. its like a friend of mine that is in the porn industry pointed out, MFC can't tell you you can't make porn or be in movies and they sure don't get a cut of her pay when she does make movies so why should SKype be different. Its not that I want a model to get in trouble, I don't but I don't believe MFC deserves half of my tokens for a model using an application they don't own. I'm sure there is legal language written in the contracts models sign up for but IMO its BS. you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

Because apples aren't oranges. They don't look or taste alike either.


The reason why MFC has a RIGHT to say "don't take the traffic we've given you away from us" because THEY gave you that traffic.

You are saying that a model seeking out casting and performing in a video and then receiving monies from a source totally unrelated to MFC is the same as having an MFC member pay for you off the site?

 

[MadisonLeigh]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of. I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business. its like a friend of mine that is in the porn industry pointed out, MFC can't tell you you can't make porn or be in movies and they sure don't get a cut of her pay when she does make movies so why should SKype be different. Its not that I want a model to get in trouble, I don't but I don't believe MFC deserves half of my tokens for a model using an application they don't own. I'm sure there is legal language written in the contracts models sign up for but IMO its BS. you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

It's nice that you want us to get all our money, but Paypal doesn't allow adult transactions. They will shut down your account for accepting payment for cam shows. It's also really easy to get your money back after the show has been performed and many girls have been burned before. It's really not worth it, from my perspective as a model.

 

[thesxuldv8]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of. I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business. its like a friend of mine that is in the porn industry pointed out, MFC can't tell you you can't make porn or be in movies and they sure don't get a cut of her pay when she does make movies so why should SKype be different. Its not that I want a model to get in trouble, I don't but I don't believe MFC deserves half of my tokens for a model using an application they don't own. I'm sure there is legal language written in the contracts models sign up for but IMO its BS. you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

Because apples aren't oranges. They don't look or taste alike either.


The reason why MFC has a RIGHT to say "don't take the traffic we've given you away from us" because THEY gave you that traffic.

You are saying that a model seeking out casting and performing in a video and then receiving monies from a source totally unrelated to MFC is the same as having an MFC member pay for you off the site?

no im saying that I personally don't like giving half my tokens to MFC for a show done on Skype. please re-read what I wrote. I didnt say I didnt understand I even stated that it was just my opinion why I wont pay tokens for Skype. its because I want the models to get all the money and not half that I would have to give MFC. as far as the "traffic" then shouldn't tumblr or Twitter get a cut because a lot of models advertise themselves on there.Should they MFC get part of the models pay from Streamates or IamLive too since several advertise as being on them? Like I said this is ALL MY OPINION. and apples may be apples and oranges may be oranges but they are both fruit just like mfc and skype both do web broadcast but they have nothing to do with one another. MFC doesn't own Skype is my point. and the point you missed about doing porn is that SEVERAL models broadcast on MFC that they do porn movies but MFC doesn't get a cut of the money they make for doing it. Its their life and again just SO you understand this is MY OPINION as to why I wont do Skype shows for tokens. When MFC buys Skype then we'll talk.

 

[thesxuldv8]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of. I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business. its like a friend of mine that is in the porn industry pointed out, MFC can't tell you you can't make porn or be in movies and they sure don't get a cut of her pay when she does make movies so why should SKype be different. Its not that I want a model to get in trouble, I don't but I don't believe MFC deserves half of my tokens for a model using an application they don't own. I'm sure there is legal language written in the contracts models sign up for but IMO its BS. you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

It's nice that you want us to get all our money, but Paypal doesn't allow adult transactions. They will shut down your account for accepting payment for cam shows. It's also really easy to get your money back after the show has been performed and many girls have been burned before. It's really not worth it, from my perspective as a model.

yeah I don't trust PayPal either-they seem shady on certain things but there are other ways to pay. I just hate buying tokens which MFC gets all the money for and then tipping You as a model and they get half. I understand their business model but it still just doesn't make sense to pay them for a program they don't own. I understand your point though about how easy it is for a model to get burned on backcharges though. i was just trying to stress the point of hating to pay MFC for something they don't put any money towards developing or supporting. thank u for ur response though :-D

 

[jamesrobert]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of. I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business. its like a friend of mine that is in the porn industry pointed out, MFC can't tell you you can't make porn or be in movies and they sure don't get a cut of her pay when she does make movies so why should SKype be different. Its not that I want a model to get in trouble, I don't but I don't believe MFC deserves half of my tokens for a model using an application they don't own. I'm sure there is legal language written in the contracts models sign up for but IMO its BS. you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

Because apples aren't oranges. They don't look or taste alike either.


The reason why MFC has a RIGHT to say "don't take the traffic we've given you away from us" because THEY gave you that traffic.

You are saying that a model seeking out casting and performing in a video and then receiving monies from a source totally unrelated to MFC is the same as having an MFC member pay for you off the site?

no im saying that I personally don't like giving half my tokens to MFC for a show done on Skype. please re-read what I wrote. I didnt say I didnt understand I even stated that it was just my opinion why I wont pay tokens for Skype. its because I want the models to get all the money and not half that I would have to give MFC. as far as the "traffic" then shouldn't tumblr or Twitter get a cut because a lot of models advertise themselves on there.Should they MFC get part of the models pay from Streamates or IamLive too since several advertise as being on them? Like I said this is ALL MY OPINION. and apples may be apples and oranges may be oranges but they are both fruit just like mfc and skype both do web broadcast but they have nothing to do with one another. MFC doesn't own Skype is my point. and the point you missed about doing porn is that SEVERAL models broadcast on MFC that they do porn movies but MFC doesn't get a cut of the money they make for doing it. Its their life and again just SO you understand this is MY OPINION as to why I wont do Skype shows for tokens. When MFC buys Skype then we'll talk.

So your OPINION is that you want to USE MFC to meet models, while they use MFC to meet you, and you don't think they deserve a cut? When you actually make a clear and concise point we will talk. Until then you're just some dude who doesn't understand business and wants to save money.

 

[jamesrobert]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of. I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business. its like a friend of mine that is in the porn industry pointed out, MFC can't tell you you can't make porn or be in movies and they sure don't get a cut of her pay when she does make movies so why should SKype be different. Its not that I want a model to get in trouble, I don't but I don't believe MFC deserves half of my tokens for a model using an application they don't own. I'm sure there is legal language written in the contracts models sign up for but IMO its BS. you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

It's nice that you want us to get all our money, but Paypal doesn't allow adult transactions. They will shut down your account for accepting payment for cam shows. It's also really easy to get your money back after the show has been performed and many girls have been burned before. It's really not worth it, from my perspective as a model.

yeah I don't trust PayPal either-they seem shady on certain things but there are other ways to pay. I just hate buying tokens which MFC gets all the money for and then tipping You as a model and they get half. I understand their business model but it still just doesn't make sense to pay them for a program they don't own. I understand your point though about how easy it is for a model to get burned on backcharges though. i was just trying to stress the point of hating to pay MFC for something they don't put any money towards developing or supporting. thank u for ur response though :-D

Again, you MEET the models, they MEET you, on this site. They provided the traffic and the medium for you to meet an you STILL don't see how they deserve a cut? Really? Are you that dense?

 

[LadyLuna]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree

So just because you aren't a scammer, you are saying that it's false that most guys who ask for a skype show are trying to scam? Have you done a survey?

While I'm not sure that most guys want to scam, I am sure that most of them want to either scam or make it cheaper for them. Shit, I had one guy want to pay $2 a min through paypal, saying that "You get more money and I pay less". I had to inform him that I get $3 a min through MFC, so in order for me to get more money off of it I'd have to make $4 a minute.

just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of.

Then buy a larger package. If you buy the $75 package, you pay less than 10 cents a token, but we still GET 5 cents a token. Therefore, we get more than half of it. Don't you think MFC deserves SOME of the money for the advertising they pay for, and the servers they pay for, and the coding they spent time on so they wouldn't have to pay for, all of which allowed us to meet and arrange the skype show?

I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business.

Thank you for this. I don't mind the people who ask once. I mind the people who push for it going "but why? but I won't do that. But paypal never need know." I hate having to point out that on my end, I have no way of telling who is legit and who is not. That I have had a customer give me perfectly legit shows in the past, only to screw me out of my rightful payment the 5th time.

you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money

Impossible. Paypal takes a percentage cut of the transaction. Sure, the percentage is in the single digits, point is, it's still there. In fact, every online payment method takes a percentage of the pay. To send a money order, you'd have to pay for the money order. Sure, it's only a dollar, you still have to pay. To send a check, you have to pay for the stamp. So no matter HOW you get the money to the model, you're still going to have to spend a bit of money to get the money there. Why not spend that money through a site that

1) doesn't give your contact info to the model
2) provided the environment where the arrangement was made
3) will factor in the fact that you gave her money to place her higher on their page, allowing even more traffic into her room

mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

It may not have done anything for Skype, but it did contribute to the fact that the transaction is happening at all. Even an escort service, the escort makes some, but the company she works through also gets a cut.

 

[thesxuldv8]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of. I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business. its like a friend of mine that is in the porn industry pointed out, MFC can't tell you you can't make porn or be in movies and they sure don't get a cut of her pay when she does make movies so why should SKype be different. Its not that I want a model to get in trouble, I don't but I don't believe MFC deserves half of my tokens for a model using an application they don't own. I'm sure there is legal language written in the contracts models sign up for but IMO its BS. you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

It's nice that you want us to get all our money, but Paypal doesn't allow adult transactions. They will shut down your account for accepting payment for cam shows. It's also really easy to get your money back after the show has been performed and many girls have been burned before. It's really not worth it, from my perspective as a model.

yeah I don't trust PayPal either-they seem shady on certain things but there are other ways to pay. I just hate buying tokens which MFC gets all the money for and then tipping You as a model and they get half. I understand their business model but it still just doesn't make sense to pay them for a program they don't own. I understand your point though about how easy it is for a model to get burned on backcharges though. i was just trying to stress the point of hating to pay MFC for something they don't put any money towards developing or supporting. thank u for ur response though :-D

Again, you MEET the models, they MEET you, on this site. They provided the traffic and the medium for you to meet an you STILL don't see how they deserve a cut? Really? Are you that dense?

Im just going to assume you have low Reading comprehension skills because I have pointed out that they also advertise on Twitter(which is where I actually found most of the models and the 1st model I ever visited) and Tumblr. So should they get a cut also? Again some models also advertise on MFC that they work for Streamates and Iamlive and various other camsites that could be and are considered competition and MFC does not get a cut from that. Basically you ignored several points I made to call me dense which tells me that there is no need in continuing replying to you because you read what you want. BTW did you miss the point where I said this was just MY OPINION?

 

[thesxuldv8]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree

So just because you aren't a scammer, you are saying that it's false that most guys who ask for a skype show are trying to scam? Have you done a survey?

While I'm not sure that most guys want to scam, I am sure that most of them want to either scam or make it cheaper for them. Shit, I had one guy want to pay $2 a min through paypal, saying that "You get more money and I pay less". I had to inform him that I get $3 a min through MFC, so in order for me to get more money off of it I'd have to make $4 a minute.

just from my point of view its not that I want to scam but MFC DOES NOT own Skype so I have hard time justifying paying in tokens that MFC is gonna get half of.

Then buy a larger package. If you buy the $75 package, you pay less than 10 cents a token, but we still GET 5 cents a token. Therefore, we get more than half of it. Don't you think MFC deserves SOME of the money for the advertising they pay for, and the servers they pay for, and the coding they spent time on so they wouldn't have to pay for, all of which allowed us to meet and arrange the skype show?

I will ask a model one time only if she hasnt made it clear in her profile that she only takes tokens for skype. I will never ask more than once if she says she only takes tokens because I believe that what you do on your time is your business.

Thank you for this. I don't mind the people who ask once. I mind the people who push for it going "but why? but I won't do that. But paypal never need know." I hate having to point out that on my end, I have no way of telling who is legit and who is not. That I have had a customer give me perfectly legit shows in the past, only to screw me out of my rightful payment the 5th time.

you do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money

Impossible. Paypal takes a percentage cut of the transaction. Sure, the percentage is in the single digits, point is, it's still there. In fact, every online payment method takes a percentage of the pay. To send a money order, you'd have to pay for the money order. Sure, it's only a dollar, you still have to pay. To send a check, you have to pay for the stamp. So no matter HOW you get the money to the model, you're still going to have to spend a bit of money to get the money there. Why not spend that money through a site that

1) doesn't give your contact info to the model
2) provided the environment where the arrangement was made
3) will factor in the fact that you gave her money to place her higher on their page, allowing even more traffic into her room

mfc has done nothing for Skype. just my 2 cents worth

It may not have done anything for Skype, but it did contribute to the fact that the transaction is happening at all. Even an escort service, the escort makes some, but the company she works through also gets a cut.

sorry i didnt make myself clear, i just meant that from me as an individual that i disagree that I'm not gonna scam. I can't even begin to imagine the crap that models have had pulled on them by all kinds of people. also some members cant buy larger packages, even though i have only been here 3 months and have nearly 13000 reward points MFC says Its not how much I spend its how long I've been a premium before they will give me the higher packages!!!!! That makes no sense to me but hey its their rules. To be honest until I read these post I didnt even know you could get refunded from Pay-Pal or other pay services. You also make valid points on other sites getting a % of what you get paid but again to me its just hard to give Mfc half my tokens for a skype show that btw you don't have to use their servers to broadcast Skype from. Skype has their own dedicated servers for Vid and audio broadcast. The reason I know this is because my best friend is an IT for Skype. I apologize if I offended in anyway all I was trying to relate was my personal feelings on the matter.

 

[AmberCutie]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

 

[lolalaurent]

i think its great to be paid in tokens because it all counts towards your camscores etc building a stronger profile overall!

Also keeps the traffic in MFC so they dont stray and start looking elsewhere.

 

[hornygods]

It's been said before and I think it deserves saying again;

The primary reason/motive to why Skype and Paypal shows are so frequently requested isn't just to allow for facilitating fraudulent activity. It's not because the member wants models to receive 100% of the money, either - the intention is more likely to serve their own self-interest. The majority of the time, the member wants to save expending an additional 40%, knowing that the model will receive just as much without the increased expenditure. I understand this intention, but there's an issue; it neglects the problem of camscores.

If a model receives non-MFC payment in place of tokens, then the model's camscore will slowly falter and may even begin to drop as a result of lower token expenditure/time. This is deleterious and irrational for the model, because a lower camscore equates to a lower page placement, thereby eventually reducing room traffic. In the long-run, the model would lose money, because the replacement ratio would eventually become smaller than 1 (thus less tipping/privates/groups).

It's the reason why models are willing to accept MFC's cut of the approximate 40%, simply because it's a well established platform to facilitate trade. If it weren't for these problems, I'm sure the girls would love to receive their money via Payooneer/Western Union.

 

[jamesrobert]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

Thank you! I get very frustrated when people question your ability to read and yet seem to not understand the simplicity of a business transaction. I'm glad you were able to word it this way.

All I want to say, is if you CAN meet ladies who want to talk to you and get naked for you WITHOUT MFC, then do it. If you can't, then it's clear why they deserve a cut.

 

[AmberCutie]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

Thank you! I get very frustrated when people question your ability to read and yet seem to not understand the simplicity of a business transaction. I'm glad you were able to word it this way.

All I want to say, is if you CAN meet ladies who want to talk to you and get naked for you WITHOUT MFC, then do it. If you can't, then it's clear why they deserve a cut.

A camsite provides a LOT to us and deserves a cut, for sure. Anyone who has tried to make a living as an independent cam model with no benefit of the traffic, community, and tech support a cam site provides would confirm that, I'm sure.

 

[Jessi]

When I guy says "oh no, I dont want MFC to take a cut, I want paypal/giftcard/etc" I always think, "Oh, so you're going to pay me the difference they would normally take off? How sweet! :roll: "
Im sorry, I just dont see why anyone would have a problem with MFC's cut, they just think they deserve to pay less for something than it costs for some reason.

 

[Anonymous]

It isn't against the rules to do skype shows, it's against the rules to be paid in anything besides tokens (which are easier anyways since Paypal can both steal your money and the guys can also get a refund.)

Most guys who want Skype just want to scam you

I have to disagree just from my point of view its not that I want to scam

I agree somewhat with Alex's statement. Well, I feel that many of the guys asking to pay for Skype with PayPal have the intention of scamming the model.

Also, she never said that ALL of the guys interested in Skype are out to scam the model. I think many of them want to get a toy show for cheaper than MFC private show rates.

You do a Skype show for me I want you as a model to get ALL the money

I appreciate this, but most cam sites don't even pay models 50%. If you think that MFC paying models HALF is fucked-up, ImLive pays models 30%, Streamate pays models 35%, etc. I am grateful for sites like MFC, AdultCamGirlsNetwork, AdultWork, and Clips4Sale who pay models 50% or up AND have decent traffic.

And it bothers me when guys on MFC nag models about PayPal, claiming they "want her to get ALL of the money," yet these guys know that the model could get into trouble for accepting PayPal for adult transactions. And no, I'm not saying that this is what YOU do, thesxuldv8.

 

[jamesrobert]

I just want to offer a translation:

Member says, "I do not want MFC to take a cut,".

Member means, "I do not want to pay the amount it costs to get the length of time private show that I want to have, so I will imply that I want to pay you all that you deserve; while getting a longer show for less money,".

How about this, if you think that a model "deserves" so much, you can pay via tokens at a rate of 150%. Unless you are just trying to SAVE YOURSELF money, that is. You know, in your OWN interests and in no way in the model's best interest.

This is all aside the VERY important cam-score discussion.

 

[thesxuldv8]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

 

[jamesrobert]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

Cool story bro.

 

[AmberCutie]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

MFC is not a good place for you then. And if you can't handle someone using the word "silly" in a response to you, then the Internet may not be a good place for you either.

 

[AmberCutie]

MFC IS NOT MEANT TO BE A WAY TO GET SKYPE SHOWS.

If an MFC model offers them, good for her, but don't try and negotiate how to go about paying for them.

If you don't want to use the features built into a camsite, don't use the camsite.

I'm not sure how this could be any simpler to understand.

 

[thesxuldv8]

I just want to offer a translation:

Member says, "I do not want MFC to take a cut,".

Member means, "I do not want to pay the amount it costs to get the length of time private show that I want to have, so I will imply that I want to pay you all that you deserve; while getting a longer show for less money,".

How about this, if you think that a model "deserves" so much, you can pay via tokens at a rate of 150%. Unless you are just trying to SAVE YOURSELF money, that is. You know, in your OWN interests and in no way in the model's best interest.

This is all aside the VERY important cam-score discussion.

want to offer that im sorry again your reading comprehension sucks, please point out to me in any of my posts where I said I wanted it cheaper? please I want to see the quote from me where I have said I wanted it cheaper. jesus I'm beginning to wonder if u can read, have I not said this is all my opinion but you automatically assume its because I want to scam or whatever-to that I say go to hell. Ive never been banned from a models room and have never even had on call me out for rude behavior. I DONT need you to translate for me I promise you I can Speak for myself. I don't understand why u have harped on this you are getting about as bad as a fanboy on a gaming website. How bout this you quit ignoring when I make points and picking the same thing over and over again. we can agree to disagree. like I pointed out before I've only been on mfc about 3 months so I'm sure there are a lot of scamming going on and a model would be crazy not to protect herself. I was AGAIN pointing out that it was why I wouldnt or dont like MFC rate. Now If MFC cut the rate to where on a skpe show they got say 15% and the model got 85% then I would be fine. I understand that mfc does provide a medium for them to meet but they dont provide the servers for the skype shows nor the bandwidth.

 

[Anonymous]

If you use Yahoo! Messenger, you could probably find some good-looking women willing to video chat with you FOR FREE. :-D I was logged in recently, and some clown who I was clearly not interested in chitchatting with tried to start a video call. LMAO.....


And, sorry to keep bringing this up, but just think...on ImLive if you had spent exactly $100 on a model, she would've gotten $30 while ImLive kept $70. Sucks, doesn't it? That's the reality of cam sites though. Models are not going to get 100% of what you've paid.