Skype shows?

[thesxuldv8]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

MFC is not a good place for you then. And if you can't handle someone using the word "silly" in a response to you, then the Internet may not be a good place for you either.

and if u cant have a rational discussion without using the word silly then maybe the intellectual community isn't the place for you. don't understand why this has gotten so blown out of proportion it was just my opinion and it seems you have selected reading skills on my points. plain and simple.

 

[AmberCutie]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

MFC is not a good place for you then. And if you can't handle someone using the word "silly" in a response to you, then the Internet may not be a good place for you either.

and if u cant have a rational discussion without using the word silly then maybe the intellectual community is the place for you. don't understand why this has gotten so blown out of proportion it was just my opinion and it seems you have selected reading skills on my points. plain and simple.

It's pretty clear you don't understand how cam girls operate, and what a camsite such as MFC is meant for. This forum is about cam girls and camsites. If you keep insisting that your misunderstanding is "just your opinion" then I may need to point you in the direction of a different form for you to share such opinions.

MFC is not about Skype. If you go to MFC in search of a Skype show, be prepared to use tokens and allow MFC their cut for providing you and the model with the opportunity. That is all.

 

[jamesrobert]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

MFC is not a good place for you then. And if you can't handle someone using the word "silly" in a response to you, then the Internet may not be a good place for you either.

and if u cant have a rational discussion without using the word silly then maybe the intellectual community isn't the place for you. don't understand why this has gotten so blown out of proportion it was just my opinion and it seems you have selected reading skills on my points. plain and simple.

Woah, who knew we were speaking to the authority of the intellectual community?!

Also, who knew people come to these forums in search of said intellectual community?!

I will admit, there are tons of smart ladies (and gents) here but I can assure you your poor grammar will not earn you a place in the intellectual community. If you can't understand what is very clear you will have a hard time in this community. As a long time lurker, I have seen tons of you never stop being a stubborn jack ass and eventually give up on these forums. If you would like to be a respected member here you should not imply that you are of a higher standard of intellect and then type like you haven't taken a class.

Edit: for clarity.

 

[Jessi]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

So, lets just say you were flicking through MFC and found a model, and she agreed to do a Skype show with you.
Would you offer her more or less than the token equivalent she would receive for doing a same-length show on the site? I'm not attacking anybody here I'm just curious.

Completely separate from my above thought:

Just for speculation's sake:
15 minute show on MFC (900 tokens)
15x60x.05 = $45 dollars for the model
($74.99 is the cost to just buy 900 tokens on its own)
Difference= $29.99

About thirty dollar savings savings for the member if they send the model money and do the show via Skype. She gets the same amount of money, and doesn't get the benefit of the tokens toward her camscore (like someone said before, if she does skype more often, her camscore will suffer, and she gets less exposure). Skype also has better quality, no spies, and isn't being recorded to MFC's server (which all privates are) and is outside the realm of MFC's rules. People often claim that they dont like MFC taking a cut of the money, if that were so, they could send the model the gross value of $74.99 (approx 1520 tk). I have yet to see anyone on MFC offer this :lol: Of course, this scenario is only applicable to Skype shows offered via MFC.

tl;dr The member gets good bang for their buck, with little benefit to the MFC model.

Anywhere in the adult industry (other than downloading porn torrents) SOMEONE will be taking a cut. Strip clubs, film studios, escort agencies, modelling/talent agencies etc. The best way for someone who is absolutely set on only dealing directly with their performer/escort is craigslist.

 

[thesxuldv8]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

MFC is not a good place for you then. And if you can't handle someone using the word "silly" in a response to you, then the Internet may not be a good place for you either.

and if u cant have a rational discussion without using the word silly then maybe the intellectual community is the place for you. don't understand why this has gotten so blown out of proportion it was just my opinion and it seems you have selected reading skills on my points. plain and simple.

It's pretty clear you don't understand how cam girls operate, and what a camsite such as MFC is meant for. This forum is about cam girls and camsites. If you keep insisting that your misunderstanding is "just your opinion" then I may need to point you in the direction of a different form for you to share such opinions.

MFC is not about Skype. If you go to MFC in search of a Skype show, be prepared to use tokens and allow MFC their cut for providing you and the model with the opportunity. That is all.

point me whereever u think u need to- never said i was searching mfc for skype --maybe u should go back and read where all this started from and stop picking one small point

 

[jamesrobert]

For someone whose go-to insult includes reading comprehension you seem to have such issues with.... comprehending what is written.

Go to Craigslist. Or how about this, if you don't want to pay a site a cut of the money, DON'T GO to sites that take a cut. I don't know how in the world you'd find them (because no site is going to host, and advertise so you can find them, and not take a cut), but you seem very "business" savy so you probably have that all worked out.

Also, if you are upset people don't see your point, state it like this:

1) I don't want to spend as much money.
2) I want longer privates.
3) I want to know she's looking at my cam.
4) ________________________

I say this because of your issues writing, I think it would be easier this way.

 

[Jessi]

thesexuldv8:
If you only did your searching through Twitter, Craigslist etc then it would make a lot of sense to do your business via Skype, because there wouldn't be a third party stream host. The person who started the thread (as are most girls on the forum) is likely from an established camsite, and was questioning what she should do because so many guys ask her about it. And then people explained why or why not its a good idea based on how it applies to camsites. Gathering from what you've written, you want something different and I think Craigslist and personal ads are the only way for you to find what you are looking for.

 

[AmberCutie]

point me whereever u think u need to- never said i was searching mfc for skype --maybe u should go back and read where all this started from and stop picking one small point

Your very first post in this thread was replying to Alex discussing MFC's rules about Skype. How does one not come to the conclusion that your comments about it didn't have anything to do with MFC?

 

[thesxuldv8]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

MFC is not a good place for you then. And if you can't handle someone using the word "silly" in a response to you, then the Internet may not be a good place for you either.

and if u cant have a rational discussion without using the word silly then maybe the intellectual community isn't the place for you. don't understand why this has gotten so blown out of proportion it was just my opinion and it seems you have selected reading skills on my points. plain and simple.

Woah, who knew we were speaking to the authority of the intellectual community?!

Also, who knew people come to these forums in search of said intellectual community?!

I will admit, there are tons of smart ladies (and gents) here but I can assure you your poor grammar will not earn you a place in the intellectual community. If you can't understand what is very clear you will have a hard time in this community. As a long time lurker, I have seen tons of you never stop being a stubborn jack ass and eventually give up on these forums. If you would like to be a respected member here you should not imply that you are of a higher standard of intellect and then type like you haven't taken a class.

Edit: for clarity.

HAHAHAH trying to call someone out for grammar in a chat room is funny indeed. So if we go back to all your posts you will have made no mistakes? I'm being no more of a stubborn jackass than you are. I have no need to be respected here, I just came in put my opinions in. I have given my reasons but it seems that if I don't agree with you or AMber that I'm wrong, I don't understand or just don't get it. Funny how that works. I guess the part of point and counter-point doesn't register and I might point out that you called me dense 1st. I never called you names or anything, I defended my point but you kept on harping. I too have sat back and watched other forums and jerk-offs like you are always around. Ignoring points and giving opinions and trying to "speak" for others. You are as bad as the trolls

 

[AmberCutie]

I think Craigslist and personal ads are the only way for you to find what you are looking for.

Exactly.

 

[thesxuldv8]

point me whereever u think u need to- never said i was searching mfc for skype --maybe u should go back and read where all this started from and stop picking one small point

Your very first post in this thread was replying to Alex discussing MFC's rules about Skype. How does one not come to the conclusion that your comments about it didn't have anything to do with MFC?

"sorry i didnt make myself clear, i just meant that from me as an individual that i disagree that I'm not gonna scam. I can't even begin to imagine the crap that models have had pulled on them by all kinds of people. also some members cant buy larger packages, even though i have only been here 3 months and have nearly 13000 reward points MFC says Its not how much I spend its how long I've been a premium before they will give me the higher packages!!!!! That makes no sense to me but hey its their rules. To be honest until I read these post I didnt even know you could get refunded from Pay-Pal or other pay services. You also make valid points on other sites getting a % of what you get paid but again to me its just hard to give Mfc half my tokens for a skype show that btw you don't have to use their servers to broadcast Skype from. Skype has their own dedicated servers for Vid and audio broadcast. The reason I know this is because my best friend is an IT for Skype. I apologize if I offended in anyway all I was trying to relate was my personal feelings on the matter."

 

[schlmoe]

I think in some cases, IF the model takes certain precautions, skype could make sense...for certain models.

I am not recommending it one way or the other, and I have no experience with skype, but almost everyone raves about the quality. On the other hand, an MFC private show will be archived for later viewing.

I do believe it's about getting a "deal". Whether it's a discounted rate negotiated between both parties, or since there is no timer, the member may get an extra minute or two.

Lot of "IFS"
*If it's paid for with tokens, the camscore argument is invalid
*If it's paid for with an "adult ent. approved" e-pay, or a gift card, or a pre-paid Visa, etc., then the model's cut argument is invalid.
*If it's paid for in advance, all the control still lies with the model, as she can end the skype at the time of her choosing.
*If it is pre-scheduled when the model is not normally on MFC, it could make sense
*If the model's room is slower than crap, or a countdown is stalled, it could make sense
*If it is a newer model, and she wanted to give a small discount to build clientele, it could make sense

OTOH
It doesn't make sense for a model to leave a busy room for an unknown.
It doesn't make sense for a model to do anything she is uncomfortable with.

And, as always, it's not cool nor appreciated to harangue/pressure/cajole a model to do something she doesn't want to do. Whether it be going on skype, or the payment method.

Its really the same old story, if you spend time to get to know the model (and that takes more than 2 minutes), it will be pretty easy to discover what she wants/is willing to do.

 

[Just Me]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

This is where you lost all credibility. Sype never did an IPO, they were acquired by Microsoft before they could and prior to that they were owned by Ebay. So, either you are a liar or have no idea what you are talking about. I will guess both but since that is my opinion your replies have no meaning.

Trying to pay by other means for shows by MFC models is not altruistic on your part. You are either trying to pay less for a show or trying to scam the model.

 

[Jessi]

As this is a forum and not a chat room, grammar and spelling are somewhat more important. That is besides the point, this is a forum for models and members of camsites. Naturally we assume that our topics of discussion relate to camsites.
I dont think anyone has a problem with Mr. Sexual Deviant finding a woman via Twitter, paying her via Paypal and doing a show on Skype together.
We have simply expressed that a model on an established camsite (MFC mostly, as it is the main site we discuss here) would make more money and do better in the long run if she didnt do Skype shows more often than not, and that members ON CAMSITES wanting to pay with currency other than that which is established on the camsite are helping themselves and doing no favour for the model. To pretend otherwise is obtuse.

 

[thesxuldv8]

thesexuldv8:
If you only did your searching through Twitter, Craigslist etc then it would make a lot of sense to do your business via Skype, because there wouldn't be a third party stream host. The person who started the thread (as are most girls on the forum) is likely from an established camsite, and was questioning what she should do because so many guys ask her about it. And then people explained why or why not its a good idea based on how it applies to camsites. Gathering from what you've written, you want something different and I think Craigslist and personal ads are the only way for you to find what you are looking for.

maybe craiglist is where u do your business but I never said I WANTED anything-I have never seen people that can't comprehend that my only point was about giving half the tokens to mfc for a a skype show when u ddont even use mfc servers to broadcast from when doing skype, I later said if MFC reduced there cut to 15% where the models get 85% then I would understand better. Yes, I understand you get advertisement from MFC, my whole initial point was that I thought it was a bit excessive for them to get half of what I tipped for a SKype show. I said from the beginning I thought half was to much, I dont like them getting half of what I tip during your time on MFC but I understand that because you are using their servers and I did meet you on there. I understand that part and accept and tip my ass off. I never said anything about wanting a SKYPE or a private or looking for one, hell my complaint was because I didnt think the models were receiving enough of my money from a skype show.

 

[Jessi]

thesexuldv8:
If you only did your searching through Twitter, Craigslist etc then it would make a lot of sense to do your business via Skype, because there wouldn't be a third party stream host. The person who started the thread (as are most girls on the forum) is likely from an established camsite, and was questioning what she should do because so many guys ask her about it. And then people explained why or why not its a good idea based on how it applies to camsites. Gathering from what you've written, you want something different and I think Craigslist and personal ads are the only way for you to find what you are looking for.

maybe craiglist is where u do your business but I never said I WANTED anything-I have never seen people that can't comprehend that my only point was about giving half the tokens to mfc for a a skype show when u ddont even use mfc servers to broadcast from when doing skype, I later said if MFC reduced there cut to 15% where the models get 85% then I would understand better. Yes, I understand you get advertisement from MFC, my whole initial point was that I thought it was a bit excessive for them to get half of what I tipped for a SKype show. I said from the beginning I thought half was to much, I dont like them getting half of what I tip during your time on MFC but I understand that because you are using their servers and I did meet you on there. I understand that part and accept and tip my ass off. I never said anything about wanting a SKYPE or a private or looking for one, hell my complaint was because I didnt think the models were receiving enough of my money from a skype show.

I'm not sure I understood what you meant there but I would like to clarify that I do not offer anything via Craigslist.

 

[AmberCutie]

As this is a forum and not a chat room, grammar and spelling are somewhat more important. That is besides the point, this is a forum for models and members of camsites. Naturally we assume that our topics of discussion relate to camsites.
I dont think anyone has a problem with Mr. Sexual Deviant finding a woman via Twitter, paying her via Paypal and doing a show on Skype together.
We have simply expressed that a model on an established camsite (MFC mostly, as it is the main site we discuss here) would make more money and do better in the long run if she didnt do Skype shows more often than not, and that members ON CAMSITES wanting to pay with currency other than that which is established on the camsite are helping themselves and doing no favour for the model. To pretend otherwise is obtuse.

And on that note, I believe this argument between the deviant and the rest of us shall end here. All future replies to such argument will be deleted.

 

[thesxuldv8]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

This is where you lost all credibility. Sype never did an IPO, they were acquired by Microsoft before they could and prior to that they were owned by Ebay. So, either you are a liar or have no idea what you are talking about. I will guess both but since that is my opinion your replies have no meaning.

Trying to pay by other means for shows by MFC models is not altruistic on your part. You are either trying to pay less for a show or trying to scam the model.

actually if read earlier that i had a friend that was IT for SKype they were giving "whats called employee shares" before it ever went public-it wasnt that much but of that they were allowed to sell up to 4% after they were taken over or bought out--so yes I do own skype shares. its just not listed on the index because as you pointed out they were bought before they went public

 

[thesxuldv8]

thesexuldv8:
If you only did your searching through Twitter, Craigslist etc then it would make a lot of sense to do your business via Skype, because there wouldn't be a third party stream host. The person who started the thread (as are most girls on the forum) is likely from an established camsite, and was questioning what she should do because so many guys ask her about it. And then people explained why or why not its a good idea based on how it applies to camsites. Gathering from what you've written, you want something different and I think Craigslist and personal ads are the only way for you to find what you are looking for.

maybe craiglist is where u do your business but I never said I WANTED anything-I have never seen people that can't comprehend that my only point was about giving half the tokens to mfc for a a skype show when u ddont even use mfc servers to broadcast from when doing skype, I later said if MFC reduced there cut to 15% where the models get 85% then I would understand better. Yes, I understand you get advertisement from MFC, my whole initial point was that I thought it was a bit excessive for them to get half of what I tipped for a SKype show. I said from the beginning I thought half was to much, I dont like them getting half of what I tip during your time on MFC but I understand that because you are using their servers and I did meet you on there. I understand that part and accept and tip my ass off. I never said anything about wanting a SKYPE or a private or looking for one, hell my complaint was because I didnt think the models were receiving enough of my money from a skype show.

I'm not sure I understood what you meant there but I would like to clarify that I do not offer anything via Craigslist.

my apologies for the craiglist quote-

 

[jamesrobert]

On the topic of Skype shows, I would personally ask a model for a Skype show if I wanted to play at a time that she is normally not available. I would want to pay the same price as a true private show (and pay in tokens if I met her on MFC) and would give her a great TIP for inconveniencing herself for me.

Other than that, privates are great for me.


EDIT: TIP, not time. Well hopefully time too.

 

[LadyLuna]

As this is a forum and not a chat room, grammar and spelling are somewhat more important. That is besides the point, this is a forum for models and members of camsites. Naturally we assume that our topics of discussion relate to camsites.
I dont think anyone has a problem with Mr. Sexual Deviant finding a woman via Twitter, paying her via Paypal and doing a show on Skype together.
We have simply expressed that a model on an established camsite (MFC mostly, as it is the main site we discuss here) would make more money and do better in the long run if she didnt do Skype shows more often than not, and that members ON CAMSITES wanting to pay with currency other than that which is established on the camsite are helping themselves and doing no favour for the model. To pretend otherwise is obtuse.

And on that note, I believe this argument between the deviant and the rest of us shall end here. All future replies to such argument will be deleted.

aw, but he never even replied to my post!

Why is it whenever I make a well-thought out, valid post towards these people they never reply?

 

[jamesrobert]

As this is a forum and not a chat room, grammar and spelling are somewhat more important. That is besides the point, this is a forum for models and members of camsites. Naturally we assume that our topics of discussion relate to camsites.
I dont think anyone has a problem with Mr. Sexual Deviant finding a woman via Twitter, paying her via Paypal and doing a show on Skype together.
We have simply expressed that a model on an established camsite (MFC mostly, as it is the main site we discuss here) would make more money and do better in the long run if she didnt do Skype shows more often than not, and that members ON CAMSITES wanting to pay with currency other than that which is established on the camsite are helping themselves and doing no favour for the model. To pretend otherwise is obtuse.

And on that note, I believe this argument between the deviant and the rest of us shall end here. All future replies to such argument will be deleted.

aw, but he never even replied to my post!

Why is it whenever I make a well-thought out, valid post towards these people they never reply?

That would require a well-thought out, valid reply.

 

[Shaun__]

aw, but he never even replied to my post!

Why is it whenever I make a well-thought out, valid post towards these people they never reply?

You are a calm rational person, and your comments get lost in the heat of the moment I think. You may need to try typing in all caps, or using lots of the angry4 emotes :angry4: .

 

[LadyLuna]

aw, but he never even replied to my post!

Why is it whenever I make a well-thought out, valid post towards these people they never reply?

That would require a well-thought out, valid reply.

That was my point

You are a calm rational person, and your comments get lost in the heat of the moment I think. You may need to try typing in all caps, or using lots of the angry4 emotes :angry4: .

LOL, I would never forgive myself if I were to sink to that level I wanted to clear up, my comment was made as a joke. When I make those posts, I used to take it as an insult that they never got replied to. But after a year or two of it, I realized exactly what you said- my comments get lost because I keep my sanity when posting them. And that, I think, is actually a compliment. ^_^

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I don't really understand what all the arguing is for.
At the end of the day the models of MFC's are in fact, model's on MFC's. We get paid a lot by them and get treated pretty well by them.
There are a lot of people coming to MFC's, everyone have their own reasons for it, and we all like different things.

I get asked to do Skype a lot, and in most cases it is simply that they want a cheaper show. Even the whole thing about not wanting MFC's to get a cut is still that they know that all their money will be going to the girl, therefore better/longer show.

There seems to be a lot of hate for MFC's going on with several members, why I'm not sure exactly, I mean we all go into shops and buy stuff, even online stores, but in no way, even in fairtrade stuff does the person who made this stuff get all the cut, there are so many other people involved. Like in MFC's, there are loads of people working to make the site functional and to sort out any problems/enquiries either models or members have. Just because these people are backstage running things and you can't see them, doesn't mean they shouldn't get paid too. Even if you're taking shows in Skype, the whole thing about MFC's not running Skype, well they offer their own private shows, and you still meet the girls because of MFC's, even if you meet them on twitter, if it was just a single cam girl you would have never found them!

Let's just face it, the bravo act doesn't work, and as a model I have more respect for those of you who just admit that Skype shows are cheaper/you get more from them. It's not exactly a big deal. For the model the only benefit from them is more guys want to take you in them, so you get more traffic, i.e. more money!

That message wasn't to argue or get at anyone by the way!
I've actually taken a couple of Skype shows over the last few days (after saying i never would!), usually wouldn't but I really need to buy some new sex toys/lighting! Anyway, I really did enjoy them and I like that they last longer and the pay has already gone through for them. I can definitely see the appeal to men as I stayed around and chatted for a little bit extra after the show, it doesn't feel like you're 'on the clock' as much, and there's no worry that I'm going to rinse someone more than they can afford or have the show cut short .

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Isabella_deL

 

[hornygods]

The use of Skype has it's range of benefits and drawbacks. I feel it'll probably work best if it was scheduled outside normal MFC working-hours, paid via tokens.

The advantages include a better level of interaction (although, arguable that it's worse for the model since c2c/m2m may not be comfortable for a model - it becomes more mutual, therefore closer to sex, or at least, cybersex), less pressure for the model in terms of time, greater leniency about rules (b/g shows, etc. are possible), and simply better quality.

However, it can be argued that m2m and c2c aren't very comfortable to use, and there's the argument about a lack of archives.

It's probably best to just do private shows. Models are most comfortable with that, and that's the important thing. There's nothing worse than faking arousal because a model is outside their comfort zone.

 

[Just Me]

My usual response to bitching about Skype transactions:

Go private. If MFC's rate is too expensive, try Streamate or Cams.com for cheaper privates. Trust me, if a girl is on a cam site, she knows and understands that the site is getting a cut of any money she makes while on that site.

If you're trying to avoid giving a camsite a cut of your money for whatever silly reason, then I'd suggest trying this thing called Craigslist. :mrgreen:

has nothing to do with "whatever silly reason", its my opinion. i dont call your silly and I dont expect to be called silly by you or anyone else. I thought this was a forum to ask or give opinions. Calling my reasoning silly is like me calling you a ignorant for your answers. you wouldn't like nor would you appreciate it. I can and will be as respectful to you as you are to me. by all your rational then twitter,tumblr and anywhere else you advertise should get a cut also. its not about getting CHEAPER PRICES as ive stated time and again. its not about doing streamamte or doing it on another cam service-i was saying SKYPE again SKYpe. I was pointing out my reason the first time for not doing it. i understand mfc is where u meet some members but as a shareholder in Skype I can tell you I dont think Mfc deserves half my tokens (my opinon). I cant make it any clearer that this is all me as a person, im not representing the whole community. Im saying there are better ways to pay where the models get more of the money on skype shows(skype shows) Also I own 4 trucks(18-wheelers) started with one, so I understand being independently employed but I also understand how to spend my money

This is where you lost all credibility. Sype never did an IPO, they were acquired by Microsoft before they could and prior to that they were owned by Ebay. So, either you are a liar or have no idea what you are talking about. I will guess both but since that is my opinion your replies have no meaning.

Trying to pay by other means for shows by MFC models is not altruistic on your part. You are either trying to pay less for a show or trying to scam the model.

actually if read earlier that i had a friend that was IT for SKype they were giving "whats called employee shares" before it ever went public-it wasnt that much but of that they were allowed to sell up to 4% after they were taken over or bought out--so yes I do own skype shares. its just not listed on the index because as you pointed out they were bought before they went public

Unless you are an accredited investor your story does not make any sense. If you are an accredited investor, why are you quibbling over a few tokens on a message board? I suppose everyone has a hobby :lol:

Anytime someone brings up paying for a skype show with paypal in a models room, I will always say it is a scam in the room and if I know the model I will PM them and tell them the person is trying to scam them. Funny how every time I say that in the room the person leaves.

 

[alexa7]

How about just no, and take no for an answer. If we don't want to do them than that's it. No matter what the reason may be. Why is it that my 5 year old understands the word "no" better than half the guys on mfc... really? We're aren't here to explain ourselves to anyone. If we don't accept them then move along plain and simple. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Poker_Babe]

(I'm sure they're not planning to pass MFC's cut on to the model)

If I had a premium go Skype with me just so he could pay the same as he would on MFC only to cut out the middle man so I could get 100%... HE WOULD BE MY HERO!!!!!!!!

 

[JoleneBrody]

I just feel like throwing my two cents in here. This is the same thing I tell anyone when they want to pay pal me because they don't wan't to give half of it to the evil MFC. You AREN'T giving half to MFC, I am! You gibs me de tookens and I gibs shop rent to the owner of my shop that provides me with the awesome features I can offer fellas that I would not be able to offer myself. How much MFC makes off of the tokens you give us honestly shouldn't be any more of a concern than how much your hairdresser gives the owner of the salon she rents space in. it would be plain rude to walk into that shop, read their magazines, drink their complimentary refreshments (provided by the owner, not the stylist mind you) then ask the hairstylist to meet you at your house after she's off so the shop owner doesn't get any of your money.
I for one love my shop owner (MFC) and am more than happy to give a portion of my earnings to them for providing me with a wonderful site to work on but that's my business, not the members.