Seeking clarification

[Ryuksapples]

@punker barbie
Hello,

I was banned about a week ago. I filled out a request on the site twice. The first time I used the wrong email address associated with the account, so I resent it with the proper email address a few days after.
I have absolutely no idea why I was banned. The only thing I can think of, is I was pming a model who I know and asked why someone in her chat thought she was underage.
Unsure if that flagged the system, or if it was taken out of context resulting in a ban or what.

If that's not the reason, I have no idea. So I'm seeking clarification and trying to see what I can possibly do to reinstate my account.

Thank you

 

[punker barbie]

Hi @Ryuksapples I have confirmed that the support team has responded to your inquiry. Ticket #23932469

 

[MaLiNka__]

@punker barbie
Hello,

I was banned about a week ago. I filled out a request on the site twice. The first time I used the wrong email address associated with the account, so I resent it with the proper email address a few days after.
I have absolutely no idea why I was banned. The only thing I can think of, is I was pming a model who I know and asked why someone in her chat thought she was underage.
Unsure if that flagged the system, or if it was taken out of context resulting in a ban or what.

If that's not the reason, I have no idea. So I'm seeking clarification and trying to see what I can possibly do to reinstate my account.

Thank you

I see so many blocks around "minors", it feels like situma blocks everyone who performs a certain list of words no matter in what context...
It seems that this is due to a forced system update. It seems that the implemented innovation was not sufficiently refined...
This is just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 

[Vixxen81]

@punker barbie
Hello,

I was banned about a week ago. I filled out a request on the site twice. The first time I used the wrong email address associated with the account, so I resent it with the proper email address a few days after.
I have absolutely no idea why I was banned. The only thing I can think of, is I was pming a model who I know and asked why someone in her chat thought she was underage.
Unsure if that flagged the system, or if it was taken out of context resulting in a ban or what.

If that's not the reason, I have no idea. So I'm seeking clarification and trying to see what I can possibly do to reinstate my account.

Thank you

Pardon me, but I feel the need to scold you. Do you know that you could have gotten HER permanently banned for asking such a boneheaded question??

 

[MaLiNka__]

Pardon me, but I feel the need to scold you. Do you know that you could have gotten HER permanently banned for asking such a boneheaded question??

I doubt anyone would know about this...

 

[Vixxen81]

I doubt anyone would know about this...

Should be pretty freakin obvious.

 

[MaLiNka__]

Should be pretty freakin obvious.

It's pretty freakin obvious that the model who's hosting the broadcast has been age verified.

And if there was talk in the chat that the model looks younger or something like that, that's weird. The user expressed interest in the reason for such assumptions, since he knows that the model undergoes age verification before broadcasting.

 

[Vixxen81]

It's pretty freakin obvious that the model who's hosting the broadcast has been age verified.

And if there was talk in the chat that the model looks younger or something like that, that's weird. The user expressed interest in the reason for such assumptions, since he knows that the model undergoes age verification before broadcasting.

I don't know why you have such a hard time understanding the concept of "do not discuss minors or things you did as a minor on a porn site or suggest someone is underage," but you'd go through life a lot less shocked and a lot less often if you swallowed it.

 

[MaLiNka__]

I don't know why you have such a hard time understanding the concept of "do not discuss minors or things you did as a minor on a porn site or suggest someone is underage," but you'd go through life a lot less shocked and a lot less often if you swallowed it.

That's right. This question doesn't apply to any of the options you suggested.

 

[Vixxen81]

That's right. This question doesn't apply to any of the options you suggested.

Yes it does because he asked her why people thought she was underage. Which is why he is now in the situation he is in...but he could have taken her down with him for asking in the first place.

 

[MaLiNka__]

Yes it does because he asked her why people thought she was underage. Which is why he is now in the situation he is in...but he could have taken her down with him for asking in the first place.

That's why I say there is a list of words that the system identifies as a violation, regardless of the context.

If everything was as the author claims, then he did not violate this rule.
That's why I say it's not obvious because there is no direct list of words that are prohibited to use on this site.

The only obvious fact is that the model (broadcaster) has been age verified and to generally assume that she is younger is nonsense. But even if someone really does look younger, Chaturbate can solve this issue with a special mark on top of the model's profile or broadcast. To avoid such situations.

Also, the tightening of rules has become a problem for many, because "ill-wishers" have learned to use it against models. They create unverified accounts and go into the chat and write that they are 17 or something like that. After which the models are also subject to blocking. And this is a very big problem now! Since this issue takes a very long time to resolve, Which prevents models from carrying out their activities for several weeks or even months. Because in cases like these you are labeled as a "habitual offender" and no longer have a voice or a voice to be heard.

Think about it... You too can find yourself in this situation, even if you have done everything you could to prevent it from happening to you.

 

[Vixxen81]

That's why I say there is a list of words that the system identifies as a violation, regardless of the context.

If everything was as the author claims, then he did not violate this rule.
That's why I say it's not obvious because there is no direct list of words that are prohibited to use on this site.

The only obvious fact is that the model (broadcaster) has been age verified and to generally assume that she is younger is nonsense. But even if someone really does look younger, Chaturbate can solve this issue with a special mark on top of the model's profile or broadcast. To avoid such situations.

Also, the tightening of rules has become a problem for many, because "ill-wishers" have learned to use it against models. They create unverified accounts and go into the chat and write that they are 17 or something like that. After which the models are also subject to blocking. And this is a very big problem now! Since this issue takes a very long time to resolve, Which prevents models from carrying out their activities for several weeks or even months. Because in cases like these you are labeled as a "habitual offender" and no longer have a voice or a voice to be heard.

Think about it... You too can find yourself in this situation, even if you have done everything you could to prevent it from happening to you.

Anyone who allows grays to chat is asking for trouble. There's a reason many rooms do not allow it.

Anyone who doesn't immediately ban a user for that is asking for trouble.

There are models who do look like they are too young to broadcast and CB often suspends them for six months and let's them try again. This is why I argue that the minimum age to broadcast be 19 or 21, instead of 18. If you look underage, you attract the people who are into age play and that's something CB wants to avoid. The age verification system doesn't know that a person may be subjected to repeated harassment for not looking like a fully-fledged adult. And I'm 35+, so no one is going to mistake me for anything but 100% legal.

I don't think everyone who is a viewer understands that models are age verified with legal documents. It probably never even occurs to them at all. Yet it should occur to them because we get paid. Or maybe they don't even understand THAT part of it. Please never underestimate that absolute stupidity that occurs in some men when the blood leaves the brain and ends up in their penis.

 

[cbhours]

I doubt anyone would know about this...

Plenty of people know that, CB has publicly stated here that they are proud of their tough stance on models appearing underage even when they are age verified. (Id take the time to look for the link but I'm feeling lazy today). Don't discuss anything related to underage at all.

 

[Vixxen81]

Plenty of people know that, CB has publicly stated here that they are proud of their tough stance on models appearing underage even when they are age verified. (Id take the time to look for the link but I'm feeling lazy today). Don't discuss anything related to underage at all.

Thank you.

 

[MaLiNka__]

Plenty of people know that, CB has publicly stated here that they are proud of their tough stance on models appearing underage even when they are age verified. (Id take the time to look for the link but I'm feeling lazy today). Don't discuss anything related to underage at all.

If you paid a fine of over $500,000 you would be proud of that too...

 

[Vixxen81]

If you paid a fine of over $500,000 you would be proud of that too...

What?

 

[MaLiNka__]

What?

What do you mean? You don't know The real reason for the tightening of the rules and why all users now have to undergo age verification?

 

[Vixxen81]

What do you mean? You don't know the reason for the tightening of the rules and why all users now have to undergo age verification?

First of all age verification for broadcasters has been a thing since forever on Chaturbate. Second of all the age verification of viewers only applies to a handful of states and is easily avoidable with a VPN and third of all the "fines" were for refusing to comply with age verification for viewers in three states. Pornhub did a complete block on states that require age verification for viewers. If you're in one of those states who does require this you need a VPN to get to the sites in question. No one is proud of being fined for dumbass laws driven by extreme religious groups.

 

[MaLiNka__]

First of all age verification for broadcasters has been a thing since forever on Chaturbate. Second of all the age verification of viewers only applies to a handful of states and is easily avoidable with a VPN and third of all the "fines" were for refusing to comply with age verification for viewers in three states. Pornhub did a complete block on states that require age verification for viewers. If you're in one of those states who does require this you need a VPN to get to the sites in question. No one is proud of being fined for dumbass laws driven by extreme religious groups.

I didn't say anything about age verification being optional for a broadcaster or anything like that, although I remember when you could hang out (for a short time) without documents.
You're right about Pornhub, they just left.

I don't know who is promoting what laws in your country, to be honest, mine is enough for me)
If the expression I used again was unclear, I'm sorry. This is sarcasm. (If this does not have any other meaning For you. If so, let me know)

What I am saying is that the rules must be clear so that they can be followed and not exposed to risks, nothing more.

Also, by unverified accounts I don’t mean grey users. I'm talking about color users who buy the minimum amount of tokens but don't upload their document for verification!

 

[Vixxen81]

I didn't say anything about age verification being optional for a broadcaster or anything like that, although I remember when you could hang out (for a short time) without documents.
You're right about Pornhub, they just left.

I don't know who is promoting what laws in your country, to be honest, mine is enough for me)
If the expression I used again was unclear, I'm sorry. This is sarcasm. (If this does not have any other meaning For you. If so, let me know)

What I am saying is that the rules must be clear so that they can be followed and not exposed to risks, nothing more.

Also, by unverified accounts I don’t mean grey users. I'm talking about color users who buy the minimum amount of tokens but don't upload their document for verification!

Their credit card is proof of age.

As a rule, United States laws are both exact and vague in their nature. It's how our judiciary system works.

For example, someone gets arrested for drink driving (I think that's how they say it in other countries) and a lawyer can get it pled down to a reckless driving charge if the police officers did not do things by procedure, or the defendant was tested again while in custody and the BAL came back under the legal limit for drink driving.

 

[MaLiNka__]

Their credit card is proof of age.

As a rule, United States laws are both exact and vague in their nature. It's how our judiciary system works.

For example, someone gets arrested for drink driving (I think that's how they say it in other countries) and a lawyer can get it pled down to a reckless driving charge if the police officers did not do things by procedure, or the defendant was tested again while in custody and the BAL came back under the legal limit for drink driving.

What guarantee do they use their own credit card? Or maybe they stole it from her parents?

Yes, these "loopholes" exist in all countries. But in some cases there is no justification for actions (I think this is also the case in all countries).
Although in my country, drunk driving is a fine and a two-year license suspension (maybe longer now), regardless of the circumstances. The same goes for driving through a red light. (Although there are exceptions here, they must be very compelling)

 

[Vixxen81]

What guarantee do they use their own credit card? Or maybe they stole it from her parents?

Yes, these "loopholes" exist in all countries. But in some cases there is no justification for actions (I think this is also the case in all countries).
Although in my country, drunk driving is a fine and a two-year license suspension (maybe longer now), regardless of the circumstances. The same goes for driving through a red light. (Although there are exceptions here, they must be very compelling)

If you want to argue American law with Americans then I suggest you fly over here and get a law degree. Perhaps you'll even get yourself a position in the Trump administration.

/and that is how you do sarcasm

 

[MaLiNka__]

If you want to argue American law with Americans then I suggest you fly over here and get a law degree. Perhaps you'll even get yourself a position in the Trump administration.

/and that is how you do sarcasm

Ahaha, what makes you think that I'm arguing about this? I told how it works in my country (the case with the drunk driver).
I don’t know who and how passed this law, which side, which party, as I said earlier. I'm just talking about the fact that it happened. You can't deny that it happened, right?
If necessary, I can send you a screenshot from the official document, or a link to the source.

 

[Vixxen81]

Ahaha, what makes you think that I'm arguing about this? I told how it works in my country (the case with the drunk driver).
I don’t know who and how passed this law, which side, which party, as I said earlier. I'm just talking about the fact that it happened. You can't deny that it happened, right?
If necessary, I can send you a screenshot from the official document, or a link to the source.

I'm very well aware of what is happening in my industry and country. The fact that you don't means you should zip your lips about it and stay quiet about things you don't understand.

 

[MaLiNka__]

I'm very well aware of what is happening in my industry and country. The fact that you don't means you should zip your lips about it and stay quiet about things you don't understand.

This is so rude of you... And it's very offensive to me, to be honest.
When I talk about something, I can explain my position and why I think so.

And if I don't understand something, it seems that this place is exactly where you get clarification on any issues in this industry, or am I wrong again?

If you say you think differently, I want to understand why you have that opinion. And perhaps I will learn something new for myself and find answers to my questions.

And yes, I never stoop so low as to insult others by shutting them up...

Another question... Is a position in the Trump administration such a bad job for a young lawyer in your country?

 

[MaLiNka__]

@punker barbie
Hello,

I was banned about a week ago. I filled out a request on the site twice. The first time I used the wrong email address associated with the account, so I resent it with the proper email address a few days after.
I have absolutely no idea why I was banned. The only thing I can think of, is I was pming a model who I know and asked why someone in her chat thought she was underage.
Unsure if that flagged the system, or if it was taken out of context resulting in a ban or what.

If that's not the reason, I have no idea. So I'm seeking clarification and trying to see what I can possibly do to reinstate my account.

Thank you

I want to apologize to us... I stole your topic...
Unfortunately, the discussion of some topics here is accompanied by such...
I really believe that you can solve this, and I will be glad if you tell me about it and put the treasured green check mark)

 

[Vixxen81]

This is so rude of you... And it's very offensive to me, to be honest.
When I talk about something, I can explain my position and why I think so.

And if I don't understand something, it seems that this place is exactly where you get clarification on any issues in this industry, or am I wrong again?

If you say you think differently, I want to understand why you have that opinion. And perhaps I will learn something new for myself and find answers to my questions.

And yes, I never stoop so low as to insult others by shutting them up...

Another question... Is a position in the Trump administration such a bad job for a young lawyer in your country?

But you haven't learned anything. You keep pushing that it's okay in your country and I keep telling you that the laws in our country are way stricter than you think they should be but you don't control it and GET OVER IT.

 

[MaLiNka__]

But you haven't learned anything. You keep pushing that it's okay in your country and I keep telling you that the laws in our country are way stricter than you think they should be but you don't control it and GET OVER IT.

Chaturbate brings people together from all over the world, but clarifying the rules — including a list of prohibited words and their meanings — is necessary. In some countries, certain words or phrases are considered normal and not offensive. Additionally, the understanding of terms like 'violence' or '18+' differs greatly. Usually, these refer to something obvious, like actions punishable by law.

However, if I want to tell a story like, 'I bought my first phone when I was 13,' which has no connection to the '18+' rule, it might still result in sanctions. Such strict measures feel unfair and can damage users' trust in the platform.

Many users also rely on translation tools and may not fully understand the actual meaning of some words. In such cases, warnings highlighting 'This word may be considered a violation' could help users follow the rules more easily and avoid serious issues.

Clarity and transparency in the rules will help users better understand them, reducing the number of disputes and boosting trust in the platform.

 

[cbhours]

Many users also rely on translation tools and may not fully understand the actual meaning of some words. In such cases, warnings highlighting 'This word may be considered a violation' could help users follow the rules more easily and avoid serious issues.

Thats not how things work, when has any service ever given you a list of prohibited words? The idea is to stop people breaking the rules and sometimes people that arent trying to break the rules get caught in the net. With a list the people trying to break the rules will just skirt around those words.

 

[MaLiNka__]

Thats not how things work, when has any service ever given you a list of prohibited words? The idea is to stop people breaking the rules and sometimes people that arent trying to break the rules get caught in the net. With a list the people trying to break the rules will just skirt around those words.

"Those who intentionally try to bypass the rules do so without the need for a list of prohibited words, as their goal is completely different. They deliberately break the established rules and skillfully circumvent the system. Unfortunately, such users are often not blocked. However, tightening the rules primarily creates problems for those who did not intend to break them, and more importantly, it brings additional difficulties for models who end up being blocked by mistake. This happens because of the deliberate actions of users who create accounts solely to harm a model. This is the reality, and unfortunately, to prove one's innocence, it takes a long struggle, as Chaturbate support tends to ignore inquiries and does not provide clear explanations."