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MFC don't have to change things but they should at least update the site so it doesn't looks like it is over 10 years old since that might drive away potential customers. I found MFC through this forum when I was looking for lighting tips for my webcam to improve my Twitch streaming. If I had found MFC some other way I probably never would have made an account on the site because of the way it looks. I had never been to a cam site before, because of the interesting discussions here and my own curiosity I made an account on MFC and bought my first 900 tokens to check out what this camming thing was. Because of the release of Cammunity they should really look into having the video feed in a 16:9 format, looking at game play footage in letterbox makes me sad and could potentially drive away tippers from that site. During the year I have been on MFC has done some updates to the site and I hope they continue doing it so new people will find it interesting and become tippers.

Their look works for them, and they don't feel a need to change it. Clips4Sale is similar in that regard, it looks like a website from the 90's, but they're not going to change that anytime soon because they're still making plenty of money.
 
MFC don't have to change things but they should at least update the site so it doesn't looks like it is over 10 years old since that might drive away potential customers.

People say this all the time, but you know the day they finally decide to change something after SO many years, everyone used to the layout will be upset.

"MFC YOU NEED TO UPDATE YOUR LOOK! AAAAHH OMG NOT LIKE THAT, THOUGH! NOW EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT AND I AM CONFUSED"
 
People say this all the time, but you know the day they finally decide to change something after SO many years, everyone used to the layout will be upset.

"MFC YOU NEED TO UPDATE YOUR LOOK! AAAAHH OMG NOT LIKE THAT, THOUGH! NOW EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT AND I AM CONFUSED"

MFC could do very simple changes that do not affect layout, and they would double or triple the value of the site.

First, they could let the model set the price of private and group shows. Price discovery and price competition are basic things. Imagine a world in which the government set the price of a bottle of wine at $50 / bottle and no one was allowed to price a wine higher or lower than that.

Second, they need some way to let the model charge for - and perform - a ticket show, similar to what CB does with CrazyTicket. A clever model could use that tool alone to double earnings. Models should be the ones setting the prices of those shows, not MFC.
 
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MFC could do very simple changes that do not affect layout, and they would double or triple the value of the site.

First, they could let the model set the price of private and group shows. Price discovery and price competition are basic things. Imagine a world in which the government set the price of a bottle of wine at $50 / bottle and no one was allowed to price a wine higher or lower than that.

Second, they need some way to let the model charge for - and perform - a ticket show, similar to what CB does with CrazyTicket. A clever model could use that tool alone to double earnings. Models should be the ones setting the prices of those shows, not MFC.

Idk about " need."

Cool concepts (some of which I would even use, hypothetically) but I sincerely doubt MFC plans to implement them. I imagine for all the site users that would be happy about those features, there would be twice as many complaining for one reason or another. Plus, as @AmberCutie was saying, not having those is partially what makes MFC, MFC, and having them is also what makes Chaturbate so very Chaturbatey.

Back to the topic at hand, I'm curious about whales on MFC vs CB. I feel like I see way more whales in general on MFC, and bigger ones at that? I don't use CB nearly as much, so I'm admittedly biased and welcome CB'ers to offer insight or correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Idk about " need."

Cool concepts (some of which I would even use, hypothetically) but I sincerely doubt MFC plans to implement them. I imagine for all the site users that would be happy about those features, there would be twice as many complaining for one reason or another. Plus, as @AmberCutie was saying, not having those is partially what makes MFC, MFC, and having them is also what makes Chaturbate so very Chaturbatey.

Back to the topic at hand, I'm curious about whales on MFC vs CB. I feel like I see way more whales in general on MFC, and bigger ones at that? I don't use CB nearly as much, so I'm admittedly biased and welcome CB'ers to offer insight or correct me if I'm wrong.

I have seen whales on CB routinely tip one model 50K to 100K tokens per show for weeks on end. I have very little experience with MFC. I haven't really seen many whales there, but MFC encourages a more anonymous tipping method as well. So maybe MFC has a lot of whale behavior hidden from other viewers?

What I have noticed on MFC is that many of the Eastern European women who do not speak much English end up with two or three guys in their rooms. Many of these girls are just fantastic, and I feel really bad for them. Being able to speak the language and have a verbal conversation with your audience ends up being a very important factor in getting the number of people in a room over 50. There are Eastern European women on CB who routinely get more than 1000 users in their rooms, but almost without exception those are extremely beautiful girls doing hardcore pornographic shows, and most of what gets into their room are low quality viewers who do not become regulars or whales.
 
I have seen whales on CB routinely tip one model 50K to 100K tokens per show for weeks on end. I have very little experience with MFC. I haven't really seen many whales there, but MFC encourages a more anonymous tipping method as well. So maybe MFC has a lot of whale behavior hidden from other viewers?

MFC whale tippers probably tip higher than on CB, a few (not a comprehensive list though) can be seen here... https://mycamgirl.net/behind-the-scenes/post/top-20-highest-tips-on-myfreecams

What I have noticed on MFC is that many of the Eastern European women who do not speak much English end up with two or three guys in their rooms. Many of these girls are just fantastic, and I feel really bad for them. Being able to speak the language and have a verbal conversation with your audience ends up being a very important factor in getting the number of people in a room over 50. There are Eastern European women on CB who routinely get more than 1000 users in their rooms, but almost without exception those are extremely beautiful girls doing hardcore pornographic shows, and most of what gets into their room are low quality viewers who do not become regulars or whales.

Turning this one on it's head.... It's widely known that many rooms on CB are riddled with viewer bots, which are artificially manipulating room numbers, thereby rendering any room count comparisons with MFC next to meaningless.:facepalm:

MFC's home page may be a bit plain by 2017 standards, but those palm trees and that green background are an easily recognisable strong brand for them. That brand now extends well beyond the site itself, through event sponsorship, onto a clothing range and other merch that bear the site logo for example. It's working well for the site, the models and the members... so MFC ain't gonna screw with that. Anyways, it beats that skanky home page and all those cheap tacky ads on CB into a cocked hat. :D

I would suggest that making more use of the search function here on the forum may get more of your questions answered... many of the topics you have raised so far have been discussed at great length here in previous years. Search and ye shall find!

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I have very little experience with MFC. I haven't really seen many whales there, but MFC encourages a more anonymous tipping method as well. So maybe MFC has a lot of whale behavior hidden from other viewers?

I would recommend spending some more time in different rooms on MFC, being that you admit to having very little experience. There are some very large tips that come across openly in MFC, and not everyone hides their tips. Also, I have not seen anything where MFC encourages anonymous tipping. They provide the capability to do so, along with silent (I F'ing hate the sound of the tip chime/bell) and private tipping. I have not found that capability to do so on CB, in the times I've been on there.

Also, you want to make sure that you understand the difference between "anonymous" and "private" tipping. Private tipping tells the model whom tipped what. but doesn't post publicly to the room. Anonymous is truly that, anonymous. No method of determining whom did it unless they claim, or the model has a guess

What I have noticed on MFC is that many of the Eastern European women who do not speak much English end up with two or three guys in their rooms. Many of these girls are just fantastic, and I feel really bad for them. Being able to speak the language and have a verbal conversation with your audience ends up being a very important factor in getting the number of people in a room over 50.

Many of those models are also working at studios, whom have an admin/manager on-site as well. They tend to hide their faces, sit at a desk and not do much else. So, lack of verbal communication, use of a written translator, sitting still, etc., really doesn't do much to make for a positive experience. Add to it, some of them you can hear other models or people in the background, the occasional "floating hand" coming from the side of the screen. Or, my favourite, the model is dancing, or doing something with both her hands, and the keyboard magically types out a response... I've called out a couple of admins by typing "Hello admin" and have heard a laugh, or have received a wave back. ;)

Might be a cultural difference. But, in many ways, it is not very appealing to me. There are some Eastern European models whom cam from home, speak English well enough to interact and answer questons, etc. that draw more people in. But, I think it is far more than just a language barrier.
 
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Turning this one on it's head.... It's widely known that many rooms on CB are riddled with viewer bots, which are artificially manipulating room numbers, thereby rendering any room count comparisons with MFC next to meaningless.:facepalm:

And I guess the reason for that is CB is making money from advertising from those "virtual" users, income that it also does not share with the models?

I have had numerous models who broadcast simultaneously on CB and MFC tell me that they are making a lot more on CB. So it looks like whatever marketing CB is using to grow the user base is affecting both fake and real users.
 
And I guess the reason for that is CB is making money from advertising from those "virtual" users, income that it also does not share with the models?

I have had numerous models who broadcast simultaneously on CB and MFC tell me that they are making a lot more on CB. So it looks like whatever marketing CB is using to grow the user base is affecting both fake and real users.


or that models style is more suited to cb
its been noted numerous times by a wide variety of people that cb is more sexualized in a lot of ways and mfc really seems more like -cliques or "community" then on the other end of the spectrum is like sm- all privates all the time.
 
I would recommend spending some more time in different rooms on MFC, being that you admit to having very little experience. There are some very large tips that come across openly in MFC, and not everyone hides their tips. Also, I have not seen anything where MFC encourages anonymous tipping. They provide the capability to do so, along with silent (I F'ing hate the sound of the tip chime/bell) and private tipping. I have not found that capability to do so on CB, in the times I've been on there.

Also, you want to make sure that you understand the difference between "anonymous" and "private" tipping. Private tipping tells the model whom tipped what. but doesn't post publicly to the room. Anonymous is truly that, anonymous. No method of determining whom did it unless they claim, or the model has a guess

Thanks for distinction between anonymous and private.

As a viewer, I have become addicted to very small rooms on MFC and I am actively avoiding the popular ones. It is a much more intimate experience to enter the room of a Russian model who has three people in her room and get a real conversation going with her. I tip after each comment so I'm not abusing her lack of audience either.


Many of those models are also working at studios, whom have an admin/manager on-site as well. They tend to hide their faces, sit at a desk and not do much else. So, lack of verbal communication, use of a written translator, sitting still, etc., really doesn't do much to make for a positive experience. Add to it, some of them you can hear other models or people in the background, the occasional "floating hand" coming from the side of the screen. Or, my favourite, the model is dancing, or doing something with both her hands, and the keyboard magically types out a response... I've called out a couple of admins by typing "Hello admin" and have heard a laugh, or have received a wave back. ;)

Might be a cultural difference. But, in many ways, it is not very appealing to me. There are some Eastern European models whom cam from home, speak English well enough to interact and answer questions, etc. that draw more people in. But, I think it is far more than just a language barrier.

I also get the uncomfortable feeling in many of these rooms that the model is being supervised and has so many restrictions on her behavior that it is artificial. I sometimes just send my e-mail by MFC Mail, hoping to give them a way to have a more free conversation from home. The few times I have started with the model by e-mail, I always get the feeling that they literally are unable to think about their performances in any kind of strategic context. You cannot even really get them into a mode of thinking where it possible to improve anything. For me as the person who wants to "rescue" them from their studio system, that is horribly frustrating. You are dealing with the slave who doesn't understand her slavery and doesn't have the ability to do anything to change it. Yet, they are not happy with their slavery either. They will openly complain to you about it. They just won't think through what it would take to break the chain.

The only thing that seems to work with the Eastern European models is time. They trust very slowly, but the trust is formed based on your consistency and the amount of time you spend with them (think months not days). Ultimately you can end up with real friends. This is in contrast to the more popular rooms, where the model simply does not have the time to have a deep conversation, and even if she did you are one of dozens doing the same with her. Those rooms are all about money.
 
I dont agree with you @Smores about large rooms being less intimate- ive definitely had no problems talking to more popular (top 10) models when their rooms are busy- even with very modest tips from me- not having a pm with them but I wont waste their time either.
 
I dont agree with you @Smores about large rooms being less intimate- ive definitely had no problems talking to more popular (top 10) models when their rooms are busy- even with very modest tips from me- not having a pm with them but I wont waste their time either.

I also have had no problems talking to popular models with 2000+ users in their room either. But simply "talking" isn't a useful metric. What I care about is relationship. The amount of intimacy - emotional and intellectual - that I achieve with those popular models has been a small fraction of what I have gotten with models who sit for hours with nothing going on in their room. That shouldn't be a surprise or even something that anyone would seriously contest. Obviously the person who is paid to sit and do nothing is going to give you more opportunity for deeper conversation than the person who is multi-tasking and has many simultaneous conversations going.
 
i guess so- some have not gotten to know me on any level- some have
one could put that down more to given priorities and personality differences between members and models...


you are making assumptions by confusing correlation with causation
 
i guess so- some have not gotten to know me on any level- some have
one could put that down more to given priorities and personality differences between members and models...


you are making assumptions by confusing correlation with causation

It is impossible to prove causation - in the scientific or philosophical meaning - in the context of a conversation like this. I think it is okay to share casual observations based on limited data, and it is also okay if our experiences are different.
 
According to @Smores My room is far too busy for me to have any real frienships, or care about anything other than money.

Good to know. I'll send out the memo to all the people whose relationships I value more deeply than many of my real life relationships.

(Seriously, its all good to have preferences but please quit labeling your impressions and experiences like they are facts that apply to ALL busier rooms)
 
According to @Smores My room is far too busy for me to have any real frienships, or care about anything other than money.

At no point did I ever say that people who are popular do not have friends. You are putting words in my mouth.

What I did say is that it is *easier* to get to know people who have time available to talk to you.
 
At no point did I ever say that people who are popular do not have friends. You are putting words in my mouth.

What I did say is that it is *easier* to get to know people who have time available to talk to you.

OK you're right. I'm very sorry. I'll go tell everyone I'm friends with that I'm all about the money.

actually i went back and read. You did indeed insinuate that you can't be real friends with a popular room model.

Ultimately you can end up with real friends. This is in contrast to the more popular rooms
 
Thanks for distinction between anonymous and private.

As a viewer, I have become addicted to very small rooms on MFC and I am actively avoiding the popular ones. It is a much more intimate experience to enter the room of a Russian model who has three people in her room and get a real conversation going with her. I tip after each comment so I'm not abusing her lack of audience either.

I go into rooms of any size, and have enjoyed my time there. As to Russian models, and small rooms, it's a mixed bag. I have been in a number of different Russian models rooms, and almost all but a few are quick on the draw to ask for tokens. Hell, there's times where I'll log in and within seconds I get a PM from them "Hey BB! I need 10tkns to close my goal." Or, similar. Which gets tiresome, and my account name has now been spread to all models in the studio so I get constant pm's from ones I have never spoken to before saying they missed me, etc. WtF?!

I also get the uncomfortable feeling in many of these rooms that the model is being supervised and has so many restrictions on her behavior that it is artificial. I sometimes just send my e-mail by MFC Mail, hoping to give them a way to have a more free conversation from home. The few times I have started with the model by e-mail, I always get the feeling that they literally are unable to think about their performances in any kind of strategic context. You cannot even really get them into a mode of thinking where it possible to improve anything. For me as the person who wants to "rescue" them from their studio system, that is horribly frustrating. You are dealing with the slave who doesn't understand her slavery and doesn't have the ability to do anything to change it. Yet, they are not happy with their slavery either. They will openly complain to you about it. They just won't think through what it would take to break the chain.

Stop with the "rescue" mentality, as it won't do much good for reasons you describe quite well. This is why I think it's a cultural difference, as many can't seem to think/act too much beyond what they already do.

The only thing that seems to work with the Eastern European models is time. They trust very slowly, but the trust is formed based on your consistency and the amount of time you spend with them (think months not days). Ultimately you can end up with real friends. This is in contrast to the more popular rooms, where the model simply does not have the time to have a deep conversation, and even if she did you are one of dozens doing the same with her. Those rooms are all about money.

I have to disagree with you here on many points. I've had Russian women latch onto me for money, as well as some seem to genuinely like the chat via message app they use. But, in nearly all cases, I get the "Hey bb, what u do now? Come see me at work" messages, and it all turns money. Don't get me wrong, I have had some very good conversations with some of them. But, I always get the feeling they either want me to give them money, come see them when working (give them money). Or, they want to try and use emotions in some way to support them (give money) or marry them (get them out of Russia/give them money).
So, I would be extremely cautious of being "real friends" with said Eastern Euro models especially when you've said you tip after every comment. I will say, I know one very well, and we communicate frequently with never talk of her asking for anything and she is genuinely appreciative of honest talk with her. But, she does not work in a studio.

As to the popular rooms, I will have to disagree with you there too. They are not "all about money" either. I frequent a couple of top models rooms quite often (multiple times per week), and have had some very good conversations with them. Either in chat room, or via PM. When they know I've been busy, or not expected to log on due to schedule, I'll occasionally get a "Hi! I wasn't expecting to see you tonight. Hope things are good for you?" type PMs from them. Or, I'll also get direct messages from them in Snap, or other apps wishing me a good day, and I know it's not a broadcast message as it has specifc things we talked about.

That being said, I'm also not the type to get bothered by a top model if she doesn't respond to me right away when in the room, via site PM's. Or, for that matter, if it takes her days to respond to messages via phone app. I know models have lives outside camming, and I respect that. Due to my job, I have to be attached at the hip to my phone and pager 24/7. So, I respond to messages almost right away. I sometimes wonder if they think I just sit around waiting for messages. ;)
 
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actually i went back and read. You did indeed insinuate that you can't be real friends with a popular room model.

I went back and read my prior posts, and I did have a line at the end of one of the posts that said that in more popular rooms the model does not have the time to have a deep conversation and that the room is about money. I should not have said that, and many parts of that are wrong. I apologize.
 
As a viewer, I have become addicted to very small rooms on MFC and I am actively avoiding the popular ones. It is a much more intimate experience to enter the room of a Russian model who has three people in her room and get a real conversation going with her. I tip after each comment so I'm not abusing her lack of audience either.

I think you have missed the point as to why those high traffic rooms are popular. Granted it's easier to have a one-on-one level of interaction with a girl in a low traffic room, but it's also good to hang in a room with 1000+ other members and enjoy the fast tipping, high volume, party vibe. Both have equal merit. Addicted sounds kinda serious though.


I also get the uncomfortable feeling in many of these rooms that the model is being supervised and has so many restrictions on her behavior that it is artificial. I sometimes just send my e-mail by MFC Mail, hoping to give them a way to have a more free conversation from home. The few times I have started with the model by e-mail, I always get the feeling that they literally are unable to think about their performances in any kind of strategic context. You cannot even really get them into a mode of thinking where it possible to improve anything. For me as the person who wants to "rescue" them from their studio system, that is horribly frustrating. You are dealing with the slave who doesn't understand her slavery and doesn't have the ability to do anything to change it. Yet, they are not happy with their slavery either. They will openly complain to you about it. They just won't think through what it would take to break the chain.

Rescuing camgirls? Ah a noble cause... the white knight has arrived on his quest to free the camgirls from their life of cyber slavery. Full of good intentions, lots of tokens and like thousands of his predecessors, his armour shining so brightly in the sunlight that he is blinded to the real situation around him... oh dear! Not all studio girls are slaves... however, if a girl is working from a "studio" room, it's highly likely that all her messages, PM's etc are being monitored by the studio admin / manager. Sometimes a member saying the wrong thing could put the girl in deep shit. Be aware of that.

The only thing that seems to work with the Eastern European models is time. They trust very slowly, but the trust is formed based on your consistency and the amount of time you spend with them (think months not days). Ultimately you can end up with real friends. This is in contrast to the more popular rooms, where the model simply does not have the time to have a deep conversation, and even if she did you are one of dozens doing the same with her. Those rooms are all about money.*

Oh good god no... :facepalm: [* Glad to see you later realised this was wide of the mark.]


I also have had no problems talking to popular models with 2000+ users in their room either. But simply "talking" isn't a useful metric. What I care about is relationship. The amount of intimacy - emotional and intellectual - that I achieve with those popular models has been a small fraction of what I have gotten with models who sit for hours with nothing going on in their room. That shouldn't be a surprise or even something that anyone would seriously contest. Obviously the person who is paid to sit and do nothing is going to give you more opportunity for deeper conversation than the person who is multi-tasking and has many simultaneous conversations going.

Hmm... emotional intimacy you say? Relationship? Are you sure you are on the right sites? This seems to indicate you are looking for a deeper level of "connection" than the average model - member interaction will give you. Even on a trusted room regular / friend basis, I don't think genuine emotional intimacy would be laid out on the table by many models. We all have to remember that this is the world of adult entertainment... not online dating.

:)
 
I think you have missed the point as to why those high traffic rooms are popular. Granted it's easier to have a one-on-one level of interaction with a girl in a low traffic room, but it's also good to hang in a room with 1000+ other members and enjoy the fast tipping, high volume, party vibe. Both have equal merit. Addicted sounds kinda serious though.




Rescuing camgirls? Ah a noble cause... the white knight has arrived on his quest to free the camgirls from their life of cyber slavery. Full of good intentions, lots of tokens and like thousands of his predecessors, his armour shining so brightly in the sunlight that he is blinded to the real situation around him... oh dear! Not all studio girls are slaves... however, if a girl is working from a "studio" room, it's highly likely that all her messages, PM's etc are being monitored by the studio admin / manager. Sometimes a member saying the wrong thing could put the girl in deep shit. Be aware of that.



Oh good god no... :facepalm: [* Glad to see you later realised this was wide of the mark.]




Hmm... emotional intimacy you say? Relationship? Are you sure you are on the right sites? This seems to indicate you are looking for a deeper level of "connection" than the average model - member interaction will give you. Even on a trusted room regular / friend basis, I don't think genuine emotional intimacy would be laid out on the table by many models. We all have to remember that this is the world of adult entertainment... not online dating.

:)
A little harsh but quite on-point, Wicked.
 
I think you have missed the point as to why those high traffic rooms are popular. Granted it's easier to have a one-on-one level of interaction with a girl in a low traffic room, but it's also good to hang in a room with 1000+ other members and enjoy the fast tipping, high volume, party vibe. Both have equal merit. Addicted sounds kinda serious though.

Oh I appreciate those things. There is a webcam model I chat with by e-mail whose room often has 10K+ people in it. She is the one receiving 50K+ token tips. She is an extraordinary human, really almost like a rock star or politician. She's able to create personal experiences for large audiences and she makes everyone feel included, even when the tips are small.

I just have a preference for the under-appreciated models, at least if we are able to be real with each other. I am not yet at the point that I require a five step addiction recovery, but yeah addiction sounds like a strong word. :)


Rescuing camgirls? Ah a noble cause... the white knight has arrived on his quest to free the camgirls from their life of cyber slavery. Full of good intentions, lots of tokens and like thousands of his predecessors, his armour shining so brightly in the sunlight that he is blinded to the real situation around him... oh dear! Not all studio girls are slaves... however, if a girl is working from a "studio" room, it's highly likely that all her messages, PM's etc are being monitored by the studio admin / manager. Sometimes a member saying the wrong thing could put the girl in deep shit. Be aware of that.

I am aware of this supervision, but I am also a babe in the woods on this issue, and it is good to have people with more experience like you give me a reality check. So thanks.


Hmm... emotional intimacy you say? Relationship? Are you sure you are on the right sites? This seems to indicate you are looking for a deeper level of "connection" than the average model - member interaction will give you. Even on a trusted room regular / friend basis, I don't think genuine emotional intimacy would be laid out on the table by many models. We all have to remember that this is the world of adult entertainment... not online dating.
:)

I am definitely not looking for pure porn experiences. But I also have not quite figured out what these sites mean to me yet. I feel like many of these rooms are more about exploring a philosophy of sexual openness and creativity, maybe analogous to nudism. I would like to find people I can be friends with, but I agree with you reaching a level of friendship where you can share real emotions is hard. I am trying to be open to experiences. Being intimate does not mean you are in a relationship. I chat with one girl from Bulgaria who has a live-in boyfriend who she is really committed to, and I don't see anything happening between us. But we have great and very open conversations, and I value that.
 
I am definitely not looking for pure porn experiences. But I also have not quite figured out what these sites mean to me yet. I feel like many of these rooms are more about exploring a philosophy of sexual openness and creativity, maybe analogous to nudism.

I really think you're over analyzing this. It almost seems as if you're looking for validation of your activities because you haven't been able to come to terms with your side of the equation just yet. For me it's as simple as finding someone who excites me physically enough to say hello and attempt an engagement on a more personal level. I don't ride into someones room on a white horse with a subconscious agenda of saving or freeing her. The moment you start responding to the requests of "help me, I only need 10 tokens for my goal", is the moment you confirm your own pathology.
 
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I must be hangin out in the wrong rooms on CB cause I've never seen a tip over 2500 tokens in 18 months I've been there, I too have a soft spot for the eastern euro girls but they can be very quick on the pm for a pvt show when they see your name is coloured dark purple (regular tipper)...im certainy no whale though but a few thousand tokens a week keeps me very entertained and in the company of friendly, nice sexy ladies, and that's what these sites are all about for a lot of single guys like me.
I have signed up with mfc but it's just so different and harder to navigate, frame rate is poor as well compared to CB.
 
Only vaguely familiar with MFC, but as I understand it unless you tip for a skype show its 60 tokens a minute plus as a minimum for a private show regardless of how popular the model is or cam quality whereas on Chaturbate it ranges from 6 - 12 - 18 - 30 - 60 - 90 - 150 a minute. Practically, the same model at 60 on MFC is 18 or 30 a minute on chaturbate.

So sure, sure you can talk site design and community and messaging features, but .... reckon the different approaches to pricing sets the parameters for any discussion
 
Only vaguely familiar with MFC, but as I understand it unless you tip for a skype show its 60 tokens a minute plus as a minimum for a private show regardless of how popular the model is or cam quality whereas on Chaturbate it ranges from 6 - 12 - 18 - 30 - 60 - 90 - 150 a minute. Practically, the same model at 60 on MFC is 18 or 30 a minute on chaturbate.

So sure, sure you can talk site design and community and messaging features, but .... reckon the different approaches to pricing sets the parameters for any discussion

Sure, and you can also extend that idea to group shows as well. Imagine a model with 2000 people in her room. Getting 50 users into a group show that is priced extremely low (lower than even CB allows) still gives very interesting economic results. These sites should allow models to do more experimentation around pricing and to do their own price discovery. CB is better than MFC, but even CB does not allow for rates lower than 6 tokens per minute.
 
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