Olivia4naked

[PunkInDrublic]

Nude girls are just as good as non nude girls

I'd be willing to argue that nude girls are much better than non nude girls on a porn site.

 

[AmberCutie]

Nude girls are just as good as non nude girls

I'd be willing to argue that nude girls are much better than non nude girls on a porn site.

I dunno. It's sort of unfair.

It's like comparing apples to oranges at a store made to sell apples. Some people appreciate being able to pick up some sweet citrus at the apples store, but they went there for the apples in the first place.

Apples and oranges are both yummy, but I wouldn't have gotten any oranges if I hadn't gone to the store for the apples in the first place.

Aye?

 

[Crumb]

Nude girls are just as good as non nude girls

I'd be willing to argue that nude girls are much better than non nude girls on a porn site.

I'd be wiling to argue that MFC isn't necessarily a porn site. I think it's an easy definition for what mfc is but I also don't think it's the correct one.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Oranges are nowhere near as fun for me as apples are. I can appreciate an orange but I'm not going to go to the store just to get an orange. Might get one while shopping for apples though. Oranges have been leeching off of the success of apples for years. Calling non nude models oranges isn't as amusing as calling them homeless people begging for change. So bored that I'm pondering going to the store for a Granny Smith.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

I'd be wiling to argue that MFC isn't necessarily a porn site. I think it's an easy definition for what mfc is but I also don't think it's the correct one.

Well you can call it whatever you want but mfc is a porn site. It provides pornography from all around the world. How is it not a porn site?

 

[Sevrin]

Nude girls are just as good as non nude girls

I'd be willing to argue that nude girls are much better than non nude girls on a porn site.

I dunno. It's sort of unfair.

It's like comparing apples to oranges at a store made to sell apples. Some people appreciate being able to pick up some sweet citrus at the apples store, but they went there for the apples in the first place.

They're magic oranges, though. If you peel them, you will find that there's a perfectly good apple inside. :dance:

 

[AliciaLeigh]

Oranges are nowhere near as fun for me as apples are. I can appreciate an orange but I'm not going to go to the store just to get an orange. Might get one while shopping for apples though. Oranges have been leeching off of the success of apples for years. Calling non nude models oranges isn't as amusing as calling them homeless people begging for change. So bored that I'm pondering going to the store for a Granny Smith.

If MFC is just a porn site and that's all guys go there for then I would have expected all the guys who regularly visited my MFC chatroom to follow me over to Streamate when I switched last year. But they didn't. And why not? Well, because many of them told me they like the "community" atmosphere of MFC better than the "wham, bam, thank-you ma'am" feel of Streamate. That they actually enjoyed talking to (and tipping) more than the non-stop action of Streamate. *GASP!* You mean they aren't JUST here for PUSSY?? Be still my heart!

Your opinion of what MFC is/isn't and what it's good for is just that - your opinion. Not everyone goes there to masturbate to a girl and log off. In fact, I'm willing to bet that even guys who DID initially go to MFC to check out naked girls end up staying because they decide they like a girl for more than just her ass/tits/pussy. I know that must sound crazy to someone who doesn't like oranges.

Also, I wouldn't call non-nude models "homeless people begging for change" especially when many of them have been in the Top 20 each month and probably make more in one month than you do in 6. I think it's more the other way around, where YOU'RE the one begging THEM to take their clothes off. Amiright or amiright or amiright?

But what do I know.... I've only been interacting with hundreds of men on cam sites for 3 years...

And for the record I have absolutely no problem with non-nude models and, in fact, I am quite proud of them. Calling them "leeches" is absolutely absurd. Now, calling guests/basics/and some premiums who do nothing but beg and never tip leeches...well, I'm definitely OK with that. :-D

 

[MandyMetal]

I think the biggest issue is members in general thinking it's all about money with us. We're all exhibitionists (i'd say at least 98 percent). I mean, even non nude models are. They're still putting themselves out there for you. It's still takes a lot of guts. We're still opening up ourselves for a lot of rejection.

But as long as a girl is having fun, she's probably making money. That's just how it works. Members are a part of that, too.

 

[Sevrin]

If MFC is just a porn site...

Apple of my eye, I didn't see anyone saying that MFC is "just" a porn site. That's just one aspect of MFC. But it's a porn site, too. There's a lot of room for variety under the "porn" banner. MFC just allows members and models to socialize and interact in open-ended ways that a lot of us enjoy, and that other sites don't encourage.

I think the biggest issue is members in general thinking it's all about money with us.

For a lot of Eastern European models, it really is all about money. I don't mean to say that they are greedy, but, for many Russian and Romanian models, for instance, male-female income inequality, and lack of career-track jobs for women is the primary reason they are camming.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Not everyone goes there to masturbate to a girl and log off.

Well aware. Like I said one page ago I like chilling in this models room and not for masturbation reasons.

Also, I wouldn't call non-nude models "homeless people begging for change" especially when many of them have been in the Top 20 each month and probably make more in one month than you do in 6.

lol Was a joke that only a few would really get but your hubris is amusing. Please keep in mind that while what some top models make is great money it's not that impressive to some people.

I think it's more the other way around, where YOU'RE the one begging THEM to take their clothes off. Amiright or amiright or amiright?

I have never begged any model for anything. I will simply pay them if I want something from them or I will pay them just for enjoying being in their room. Will never beg for anything.

Calling them "leeches" is absolutely absurd.

No shit lady. So is calling them homeless people begging for change.

 

[RedHerby]

I'd be wiling to argue that MFC isn't necessarily a porn site. I think it's an easy definition for what mfc is but I also don't think it's the correct one.

Well you can call it whatever you want but mfc is a porn site. It provides pornography from all around the world. How is it not a porn site?

MFC is a social site, we perverts are damn good at presenting our loneliness as horniness on MFC.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

MFC is a social site, we perverts are damn good at presenting our loneliness as horniness on MFC.

Again you can apply whatever name that fits your own description of the site but mfc is still a porn site.

 

[RedHerby]

I think the biggest issue is members in general thinking it's all about money with us.

For a lot of Eastern European models, it really is all about money. I don't mean to say that they are greedy, but, for many Russian and Romanian models, for instance, male-female income inequality, and lack of career-track jobs for women is the primary reason they are camming.

Yes, sure for lots of the studio workers, they started with this job because they where at a bad point in their life, are ashamed for their job.

However I have the idea that's changing, an aditude that's common under the western models, most ACF models have it to. Proud to be independed. Single mothers who are very proud to take care for their child without that asshole off a ex. And some also add "Hee and I'm also proud to be a Romanian to!" to it. I like those kind of models, boob size is not so important then for me.

 

[RedHerby]

MFC is a social site, we perverts are damn good at presenting our loneliness as horniness on MFC.

Again you can apply whatever name that fits your own description of the site but mfc is still a porn site.

Relax, I'm not calling you a sissy, I know your cock is big and hard when watching the models, we men can multitask, chatting and playing with our penis.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Relax, I'm not calling you a sissy

Wouldn't care even if you were.

I know your cock is big and hard when watching the models

Not always.

we men can multitask, chatting and playing with our penis.

Cool. All this cock talk has convinced me mfc isn't a porn site.

 

[SexySteph]

Relax, I'm not calling you a sissy

Wouldn't care even if you were.

I know your cock is big and hard when watching the models

Not always.

we men can multitask, chatting and playing with our penis.

Cool. All this cock talk has convinced me mfc isn't a porn site.

I hate to agree with Punk EVER but... MFC is a porn site. It might not all fit the definition of porn but MFC is a porn site. It was meant for jerking your meet. Yeah, there's an amazing social aspect that keeps models and members alike coming back but, at it's most basic, is porn.

 

[Kickaz]

We are all just women who provide entertainment! I don't care if someone is taking her clothes off or not, If a model captures my attention I will tip her, if a model makes me laugh I will tip her, If a model excites me I will tip her and so on (if i have tokens). I think it's the same way for most members.

Also MFC to me is NOT porn. Porn is a short movie which has been cut and edited many times and then sold or pirated. I would call MFC an adult oriented community that is sex positive. Both men and women interact in different ways. Some rooms display more sexual behavior than others at times, some focus more on other aspects. Some have a balance of both.
The beauty of why mfc works so well is that it has so much variety. If you don't like one room, go to the next. If you feel like sexy time, find a girl that feels like sexy time, if you want tease time, it's there; chat time, it's there; Laugh time, it's on mfc.

Also you see members going on mfc just to chat together. Sometime I'm not even online and there would be 50 guys in my room chatting. Why... because we have established a strong sense of community. If MFC was just porn, this wold have never happened.

You have to remember that sex sells! Porn is the most explicit form of sex in media, but sex is used everywhere. Advertising is big on it, Hollywood and so on... I believe every girl on MFC (no matter how many layers of clothes she wears) is using sex as a marketing tool but the amount of sex varies.

 

[SexySteph]

Relax, I'm not calling you a sissy

Wouldn't care even if you were.

I know your cock is big and hard when watching the models

Not always.

we men can multitask, chatting and playing with our penis.

Cool. All this cock talk has convinced me mfc isn't a porn site.

I hate to agree with Punk EVER but... MFC is a porn site. It might not all fit the definition of porn but MFC is a porn site. It was meant for jerking your meet. Yeah, there's an amazing social aspect that keeps models and members alike coming back but, at it's most basic, is porn.

I wrote this on my phone so I didn't fully explain. What I mean is the SITE is a porn site. All the content or a majority of the content might not be porn but I feel like that was the sites original intent.

I just wanted to explain because I feel like my comment sounds like I'm saying girls masturbating is the only purpose of MFC and it's not (if you've watched my shows you know that I rarely do that kind of thing) but I think that the general view of it (unless you're a premium member or a model) is that it's porn.

I'm betting there's more basics that visit the site than premiums at any one time and they're there for the free porn. Those that spend money on models probably don't even notice the porn aspect of it anymore (honestly I don't, I'm like "Oooh! Kicka/Veronica/whoever is on! I'm gonna go hang out/tip/talk with my friend!") but I still think the majority of use is porn, even if it's mostly guests and basics that are treating it as that.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

I hate to agree with Punk EVER

Why? I'm not really that bad of a guy.

 

[AmeliaArcana]

There is non-nude porn, and things that seem innocuous to many people are straight-up pornographic to others. Porn is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[UncleThursday]

Now, calling guests/basics/and some premiums who do nothing but beg and never tip leeches...well, I'm definitely OK with that. :-D

I leech off Kitty all the time. I'm like 'ooooo yeah, look at that elbow I didn't have to tip for!' 'Mmmmmm shes showing off knee I didn't have to tip for!'



Kitty.

 

[God]

i have visited her several times and all i can say is any who visits her one time will not be able to do what she does or even describe it accurately. i took the time to experience her chatroom atmosphere on multiple occasions and i can appreciate it for what it is. i can also say she doesn't have to change the things she does on cam to expand her audience. i would never give Olivia4Naked advice on being a camgirl.

 

[Courtneypage]

I recently joined in on her room a few weeks ago. It was a Friday night (I remember because it was the night I went and saw THE CONJURING!!!! so scary) and she was just chilling on a bed with her hair blowing and no sound but music playing. Does she usually not talk?

Also she is BALLER, dude!!!!! She was fully clothed watching a video, Mega-mind I think. Well actually the whole room got to watch while she was in the upper left corner.

I was flabbergasted! Like a steady 500 viewers watching a movie with her.

How does this happen? Is she a super veteran on MFC or something?
Good for her!

 

[UncleThursday]

Also she is BALLER, dude!!!!! She was fully clothed watching a video, Mega-mind I think. Well actually the whole room got to watch while she was in the upper left corner.

I was flabbergasted! Like a steady 500 viewers watching a movie with her.

She really needs to watch out with that sort of stuff. She's just asking for someone to not like her and send screencaps of her showing a movie/TV show/etc. as a large part of her screen and have MFC kick her off for copyright infringement, if not outright ban her account (and not pay her the tokens earned).

She broadcast the Superbowl earlier this year in her room. All that would have taken is one person to be a dick, and she'd be gone from the site... and if the screenshots were forwarded to the NFL and whichever network was airing it, she'd be a whole world of financial and legal trouble. Maybe the laws in her country (Romania? I dunno) are a little different... but since MFC is in the US, you know damn well they'd have to do whatever they needed to do to her account to cover their own asses.

She plays with fire doing that sort of stuff. And if she's not careful, one day it's going to burn her.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Also she is BALLER, dude!!!!! She was fully clothed watching a video, Mega-mind I think. Well actually the whole room got to watch while she was in the upper left corner.

I was flabbergasted! Like a steady 500 viewers watching a movie with her.

She really needs to watch out with that sort of stuff. She's just asking for someone to not like her and send screencaps of her showing a movie/TV show/etc. as a large part of her screen and have MFC kick her off for copyright infringement, if not outright ban her account (and not pay her the tokens earned).

She broadcast the Superbowl earlier this year in her room. All that would have taken is one person to be a dick, and she'd be gone from the site... and if the screenshots were forwarded to the NFL and whichever network was airing it, she'd be a whole world of financial and legal trouble. Maybe the laws in her country (Romania? I dunno) are a little different... but since MFC is in the US, you know damn well they'd have to do whatever they needed to do to her account to cover their own asses.

She plays with fire doing that sort of stuff. And if she's not careful, one day it's going to burn her.

I agree I watched a bit of her broadcast the Superbowl show and I was flabbergasted. I bar owner near me me in California, used satellite TV to broadcast 49er games which were blacked out cause they were not sold out. The NFL found out what was going sued the bar owner, and in less than a year he had lost the bar and God knows how much other money. Don't fuck with the NFL.

 

[UncleThursday]

Also she is BALLER, dude!!!!! She was fully clothed watching a video, Mega-mind I think. Well actually the whole room got to watch while she was in the upper left corner.

I was flabbergasted! Like a steady 500 viewers watching a movie with her.

She really needs to watch out with that sort of stuff. She's just asking for someone to not like her and send screencaps of her showing a movie/TV show/etc. as a large part of her screen and have MFC kick her off for copyright infringement, if not outright ban her account (and not pay her the tokens earned).

She broadcast the Superbowl earlier this year in her room. All that would have taken is one person to be a dick, and she'd be gone from the site... and if the screenshots were forwarded to the NFL and whichever network was airing it, she'd be a whole world of financial and legal trouble. Maybe the laws in her country (Romania? I dunno) are a little different... but since MFC is in the US, you know damn well they'd have to do whatever they needed to do to her account to cover their own asses.

She plays with fire doing that sort of stuff. And if she's not careful, one day it's going to burn her.

I agree I watched a bit of her broadcast the Superbowl show and I was flabbergasted. I bar owner near me me in California, used satellite TV to broadcast 49er games which were blacked out cause they were not sold out. The NFL found out what was going sued the bar owner, and in less than a year he had lost the bar and God knows how much other money. Don't fuck with the NFL.

And that was just for blacked out regular season games.

All the NFL would have cared about is:

1. She broadcast the Super Bowl online.
1a. Even worse, she broadcast the Super Bowl on what would be considered a pornographic site by mainstream media (personal preferences about what constitutes pornography won't matter, naked girls, masturbation, etc. is all they'd see).

2. She broadcast the Super Bowl from another country (she does not live in the US) and potentially to every country in the world with Internet access, whether those countries had a TV network licensed to broadcast it or not.

3. She earned money for broadcasting the Super Bowl (she could technically try to argue people weren't paying to watch the Super Bowl, which is true-- they were paying her for being her, but the lawyers would rip that to shreds in court).

And then the US TV network broadcasting would have the same arguments. As well as any non-US TV networks that have the rights to air it in their countries (I personally do not know if the Super Bowl is aired in other countries, but it is a possibility).

Provided the country she lives in has a copyright treaty with the US and other countries, and the lawsuits went through, she'd be penniless and then some (awards large enough to have her future generations paying for them), if not in jail.

And they all could go after MFC for it, as well.

It's one of the main reasons MFC (and pretty much every camming site out there) explicitly says not to have TVs in the background playing TV shows or movies, and, technically, music (though its slightly easier to get away with music). The way she does it, though, is even more blatant and harmful to herself and MFC if it were ever found out by the copyright holders.

She's been getting away with it, for now. But, like I said, all it takes is one person who doesn't like her to show it to MFC, or worse the copyright holders, and then the shitstorm would begin.

 

[UncleThursday]

....or politely reminded her that when she first started camming, she herself was a nude model? I've seen her naked.

I think this is something that should be remembered. Very few of the current NN models on MFC and such started out NN. Olivia is included in the models who are now NN but started off nude.

So, if a model has gone from nude to NN, she shouldn't bash other girls for getting nakie on the site, especially since that model, herself, started out that way. It's kind of like trying to fabricate a past, where one gets rid of anything that doesn't fit their current paradigm, just to be able to have some sort of 'moral superiority' to stand on.

Some models have moved to a 'less explicit than I used to be in public chat' mode. CrzySysy for example. In her early GoldenLady inside the studio days, she was pretty much constantly naked, and very often doing full on dildo shows (anal included) in public. When she moved to camming from home, but still under the GoldenLady studio name, she got less explicit-- rarer penetration, but often still fully nude in public. After dropping her studio and going to her CrzySysy account, that stayed the same for a while, but with no penetration in public, only rubbing herself. Now, it's even less nudity in public. She'll still get nude, but the tokens to do so are very high (the other day I saw her with another person and the topic was like 6k to topless for both of them).

I don't hang out in Mary's room, though, so I don't know if she gets on other models for getting naked at lower goals or anything. But, I never saw anything like that from her the times I have been in her room.

There's a few other now NN models I know of that started out very nude, though. One that comes to mind is MiniGXO (I think that's her name). Again, I don't go to her room, so I have no idea if she gets on other models for getting naked.

Then there's the girls who went the other way. Alison something or other started out NN. She became known in the lounges as the queen of 30 second privates because when she informed the person taking her private she wouldn't be getting nude, the private would end. Needless to say, she wasn't making a lot at that time. A few months after I first saw her, she had completely turned around. Not only had she gone full nude in public, but she also went on to do full shows there, as well. And, unsurprisingly, her income went way up (as did her camscore).

Being a nude or NN model on MFC and other camming sites doesn't make one model better than any other who doesn't do the same thing. And it's kind of upsetting to hear about any of them bashing on others for not following their same modus operandi.

 

[Mr_Do_]

I recently joined in on her room a few weeks ago. It was a Friday night [...] and she was just chilling on a bed with her hair blowing and no sound but music playing. Does she usually not talk?

This.

I read here about the avant-garde performances that she does, but every time I've looked at her, she's just sitting on a bed, smiling, waving, and typing into the chat "thank you" for all the tips that people are giving her for sitting on the bed, smiling. Add in the cultish "oh we're just having so much fun here" comments in chat, and I'm left both frustrated at her ("Money for Nothing" syndrome) and the scared of the apparently delusional room attitude. It's led me to think in conspiracy minded themes (like are there some bot tips in order to seed the room for other tippers?).

I don't get her. At all. To me it's like an Emperor's new clothes situation, but there's no need in telling people what to do with their tokens, as it's (probably) a free country.

 

[Anonymous]

And I'm left both frustrated at her ("Money for Nothing" syndrome) and the scared of the apparently delusional room attitude.

What do you mean by "money for nothing?" Do you tip her and just assume that she's going to finger her pussy or something? Please explain.

 

[Nordling]

:lol: I would suggest that members who are "scared and frustrated" in Olivia's room might be better served by going to other rooms. She obviously entertains hundreds of happy members, so why worry about her so much?