Need help/tips to find girl to cam with

[edwin]

Hello girls and boys, how r u guys doing?

I'm not even a model, yet. But I want to indruduce myself cause I'm trying to become a cam model. However I'm not interested in doing solo camming cause I don't match the competition in body looks and I'm straight, so no stuff in my ass. LOL
Would be better with a partner cause I enjoy doing sex and I'm good at.

So let me introduce myself. My name is Ricardo, 22 yo, brazilian, who really likes porn and even more sex! I like to read, music in general not only one type, video games, boardgames and mostly everything that has game on it. =P
About a couple of weeks ago I started learning about camming, reading blogs, sites, forums and anything that could help me become good at camming. But the problem is that my girl is to shy for camming and don't want to start camming. She is really open minded and said to me if I find a girl to cam with she won't have any problem, she undenstand its only a job and the money is sweet.

Now my problem. It's already too hard to find women interested on doing this job, even more to have sex with a guy while camming, doesn't exist too many sites about the topic of camming in portuguese and I don't know how I'd find a girld willing to do this. In brazilian cam sites there's not many couples camming and over flooded with solos, I think would be a good diferencial meaning more $. If u guys have any tips to give me on how could I find a girl willing to cam with me I'd be so happy. If everything goes right and I start camming I'll post more about my experience.

If u read till here I thank you for your consideration, sorry about my english.
Thanks! xD

To address the original post...

This is exactly the reason why I, as a male model of almost 2 years now, don't ever feel comfortable asking anyone to cam with me. This is the reason men aren't allowed to do these model-meetups that could be quite lucrative for all parties involved. Why? Because your expectation is sex, because you can't keep it in your fucking pants. Because when a man and a woman cam together, they are expected to fuck. For hours. And cum repeatedly.

I admittedly didn't read every response thoroughly but I deeply appreciate Vallie's input, as every model has a different format and different limits. As a solo male, I have never done a single public cumshow. I rarely do cumshows at all... I rarely even get hard in public... My ideal couples show is playful, goofy and interactive, capitalizing on the exponential personality factor and I was very lucky to have had that opportunity a few times.

If you want an established model to cam with you, what makes you any different than any other guy walking down the street?... As Bob so quickly and eloquently responded... they're just going to think that you're just some guy who wants to fuck them. They get tons of guys like that in their room every shift... in droves...

Become a model. Cam. Learn what you like and don't, what your limits are and what you are comfortable doing. Learn what your regulars like and don't. Then you might be able to find a partner who shares a common business model and would like to work with you... hell, maybe your lady-friend might oversee one of your shows and suddenly change her mind and want to give it a try? You never know.

Please don't perpetuate the stereotype that we're all just stunt-cocks. It's degrading to our gender and it makes it harder than you could possibly imagine for softer-core male models to actually be taken seriously.

Either way, best of luck.

Thanks bro, didn't have the time to read others coments yet. I know a diferencial is the key to not like a perv. I was writing a response to msbiancabaker informing you guys about the camming market in Brazil and some info about my country(seriosly, I'm doing research on the topic a couple of weeks and the only good info I got was in english), but I was working and writing and the forum logged out so I lost the text. It's 1 am I'm tired, thanks for all the responses.

I know I was a little bit harsh on PicNic, it was wrong if she isn't polite that don't give the right to do the same. I'm open minded, i really don't care about others sexuality and respect of course(so, I don't need lessons about accepting people and their sexuality, I thought was clear about my 0 fucks if somebody likes up in the ass, it's become the problem when it's my ass).

Thanks to you all for trying to help in some way. Tomorrow I'll read everything.
Good night

 

[edwin]

To address the original post...

This is exactly the reason why I, as a male model of almost 2 years now, don't ever feel comfortable asking anyone to cam with me. This is the reason men aren't allowed to do these model-meetups that could be quite lucrative for all parties involved. Why? Because your expectation is sex, because you can't keep it in your fucking pants. Because when a man and a woman cam together, they are expected to fuck. For hours. And cum repeatedly.

I admittedly didn't read every response thoroughly but I deeply appreciate Vallie's input, as every model has a different format and different limits. As a solo male, I have never done a single public cumshow. I rarely do cumshows at all... I rarely even get hard in public... My ideal couples show is playful, goofy and interactive, capitalizing on the exponential personality factor and I was very lucky to have had that opportunity a few times.

If you want an established model to cam with you, what makes you any different than any other guy walking down the street?... As Bob so quickly and eloquently responded... they're just going to think that you're just some guy who wants to fuck them. They get tons of guys like that in their room every shift... in droves...

Become a model. Cam. Learn what you like and don't, what your limits are and what you are comfortable doing. Learn what your regulars like and don't. Then you might be able to find a partner who shares a common business model and would like to work with you... hell, maybe your lady-friend might oversee one of your shows and suddenly change her mind and want to give it a try? You never know.

Please don't perpetuate the stereotype that we're all just stunt-cocks. It's degrading to our gender and it makes it harder than you could possibly imagine for softer-core male models to actually be taken seriously.

Either way, best of luck.

Thanks bro, didn't have the time to read others coments yet. I know a diferencial is the key to not like a perv. I was writing a response to msbiancabaker informing you guys about the camming market in Brazil and some info about my country(seriosly, I'm doing research on the topic a couple of weeks and the only good info I got was in english), but I was working and writing and the forum logged out so I lost the text. It's 1 am I'm tired, thanks for all the responses.

I know I was a little bit harsh on PicNic, it was wrong if she isn't polite that don't give the right to do the same. I'm open minded, i really don't care about others sexuality and respect of course.
Queer, bi, gay, etc.. is only separating people onto groups, this one likes sex with boys and shit or that likes this other stuff. Fuck that. In the end we're all bone, flesh. Just people. I don't have problems with others and their preferences. SO lets back to the topic.

Thanks to you all for trying to help in some way. Tomorrow I'll read everything.
Good night

 

[edwin]

So, to ensure we don't have language issues, let me go into native mode for a sec...

<native mode>
Cara, pega leve. Voce que ta vindo num forum que eh extremamente inclusivo e falando que ser hetero exclui a possibilidade de gostar de anal, que por si so eh um baita sinal de que voce precisa pesquisar mais sobre sexualidade (inclusive com relacao a qual eh a linguagem correta a ser utilizada) - o jeito que voce esta se expressando eh extremamente homofóbico/heteronormativo... E ninguem aqui esta redefinindo palavras - voce que esta usando a definicao errada.

E sinceramente, se voce reage desse jeito num ambiente como nesse forum que eh bem inclusivo, so imagino como que voce vai lidar com todos os trolls quando voce estiver na cam - os caras vao te zoar de todos os jeitos e sobre tudo - do tamanho do teu penis, se vc nao 'eh bom de servico', se ta parecendo q vc nao ta duro/com tesao o suficiente, etc, etc..

<out of native mode>

Eae cara, eu sei q exagerei. Acontece. To ligado q qdo a gente se expõe em uma cam com ctz terá comentários maldosos e trolls. Estou lendo sobre o assunto faz um tempinho já e isso de manter a postura na câmera mesmo qdo xingado é das q eu mais li sobre. Eu normalmente não sou estressado, mas normalmente não sou chamado de homofóbico, coisa q de longe não sou. Legal saber q existem brasileiros aqui no forum tb. Seria bom conversar sobre o mercado brasileiro nessa área, realmente não achei nada de útil em português.
Ps: nem fui tão maldoso assim com a mina pro pessoal começar de mimimi.

Coloca um anúncio no Classificados do Globo. :thumbleft:

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ai não dá, será q no bom negócio não é melhor? ahahhahahaha

Okay, now back to english.
Guys, I'm not just trying to get laid, if was just that I wouldn't need to seek help in forums and would be so much easier. The real problem is what SatanJonez said. I don't want to look creepy or scammer(I won't steal nobody).
Don't know why u guys r saying that much I think it's easy $$$, I never said that, I never said it was supposed to be a easy job. Probably to many guys come in here thinking like this, but not me. I've done my research and still doing. I'm trying to enter the porn market in Brazil in some way, that's just it.
I know I won't be able to accomplish nothing without starting by myself or with my girl, doesn't matter, to work I have to start in some way.
As DeezNA said, I need a diferencial to stand out. I'm going to offer the place to cam(if she doesn't have) the set up(cams, lights, microphone, production, marketing and etc). I know with the angry post I made u guys thought that I loose my temper quickly and I'm not a nice person, but I kinda fucked a first impression. So let's try again.
So here a brief resume of me
- I'm communicative (better in native language =D)
- I can control my temper, diferent from what I did earlier in this thread. (we'll human, c'mon)
- I'm interesting, as I said, I read many subjects on cam modeling and I saw camming was how good your keep peaple entertained and interested in you, your personality and of course your body(doesn't matter if you r chubby, buffy, etc there's always somebody that'll feel atracted) rather than just masturbating and having sex. I can keep a conversation for hours.
- I'm funny, at least I try. lol
- I'm doing my researches and until now It's the only thing I've done (I read about guys camming I could've start solo, but I think the market in Brazil would give more money(both parts, male and female) if done in couple I think would be more money cause in brazilian sites has just a few couples(or I could be wrong and just have a few cause it's bad and give no money, thats why I'm here, if I had this info in some portguese forum or site, I wouldn't be here asking this questions).
- Experience in marketing from others jobs.
- I can fuck for hours, cum many times(I'm not a cum factory, so as a human the first 2 cum are plenty after that I'll be able to cum but not much) and control my ejaculation(With years of experience and practice masturbating, I'm good on making me cum when I want, it's not instantaneous but again, human, not a sex machine).

I was watching girls doing their show in brazilian sites and it's noticeable many of the girls don't know the basics of camming(Again, not so much info in portuguese. I'm not saying I'm a pro but). The camming market in Brazil it's really diferent from international. It's not yet considered a common job, it's kinda a taboo. I'm just trying to get into the market, I can do many things besides fucking and shooting it.
Hope some of you stop thinking I'm just a guy trying to make easy $$$$ and/or trying to get some easy pussy.

Thanks.

 

[DeezNA]

It seems like the only reason you have *not* started solo camming is because you would make more potential income with couples camming.

You're looking for experience right now. Every guy has experience masturbating for years and can claim whatever they want about their sexual prowess, the proof is in performance; trial by fire. You can't expect to make consistent top dollar from day one; if you do, you're delusional and will be horribly disappointed. Yes, you have been able to perform all the sexual acts that you wish to do in couples shows... can you do them in front of an audience? With hecklers berating you, begging you with every fetish they have or abusive comment they can find, demanding free shit? Can you handle a flock of gay/bi men begging you to finish for them and still stay "in the zone"? It doesn't matter if you're in a couple or solo, you'll get all of the above and much, much more.

It seems you're at least slightly business/market savvy so let's go through the seven rudimentary steps to establishing a successful self-run business (which is never guaranteed).

Marketing - Know (or at least have an idea of) exactly what product you are selling, who your target audience is and the best ways to reach them. Note that in our industry this may fluctuate rapidly.

Finance - Acquire the capital you need to get a quality start and leave a good mark in the industry: HD cam, reliable computer/internet, microphone, lighting, etc.

Production - Produce the product you are selling at consistent levels of quality and quantity to meet your target audience's demand. Read as: CAM. Note: a vagina has not entered the business plan yet unless you have someone you know personally that you are actively forming your business plan with.

Distribution - Same as above but deliver the product in a regular(ish) time-slot and timely fashion in order to meet your target audience's expectations and demands.

Research and Development - After having your business established for long enough to know that it can sustain itself, look to expand into new ventures: new activities, new events/promos, start thinking about networking for couples camming...

Regulation - VERY MOTHERFUCKING IMPORTANT. Know your legal rights and be prepared to deal with federal and international legislation. In layman's terms... read/memorize your contracts and those of your business partners/customers if you haven't already (which your really fucking should). Know your legal rights as far as safety, taxes, etc. go with your product AND how profit-sharing/taxation would potentially work in a couple cam business. Learn how to write/read a legally-binding contract.

Labor - Find the help you need to bring your business to where you want it to be. Network and branch out for new ideas and assistance from your peers in the community, get security assistance, get graphic design assistance, START looking for a cam partner if you didn't have one this whole time.



Please note that actively seeking out a cam-partner doesn't occur until the LAST step. I hope you can see the reasons behind that now. It's fun work, but it's work. If you don't put in the work on it, it's basically just looking to fuck someone on camera and HOPE to get paid for it, which you really don't need our help with...

 

[Jessi]

I'm happy to see this thread take a somewhat productive turn. Thanks Deez.

 

[JessieWolfe]

Deez, you are always so good with words and I am very envious haha

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I forgot to mention in my previous post that having chemistry with someone you are camming with is really important. If you don't have chemisty, people will pick up on it. My members could tell I had chemistry with the girls' I have cammed with, and it really is a "selling" point for most audiences. Where this could run into an issue though is with your current relationship. You really need a lot of trust and love between you and your girl friend. My husband and I have very clear lines for our relationship and what we can do with other people, and trust each other to not cross these lines. So if you do find a girl to cam with, your partner will still need to feel comfortable with your relationship while you are having sex with a girl every day. Sex, to me, is a fun activity, and I easily differentiate my sexual feelings and lust from love. It isn't so easy for other people, or sometimes sex means more than just "fun" to some people.

My suggestion if you get yourself out there and explore camming and end up working with a girl is to discuss all the acts your girlfriend is comfortable with you doing with another girl. This is SO important. For example a girl I cammed with discussed with her boyfriend and he just didn't want us doing anal, so we never even mentioned crossing that line, anal was kinda their special thing to do together. See if your girl is ok with you making out, having sensual sex, or maybe no kissing and just "pornish" sex. It is so so so important to make boundaries and make sure every one is ok with them. Also! Have you, your girlfriend, and your future cam partner hang out a bit. Make sure she trusts the girl you are working with as well, this is important. Just make sure everyone is trusting every one to not cross boundries. I know it sounds awkward, but if it is too awkward for you to go through with then you may run into problems. Communication with all parties and making sure your girlfriend knows everything that happens on cam is crucial in my mind.

(for me, if my husband found he couldnt watch one of the acts I was performing, or if he couldn't feel comfortable watching my shows with a certain person, then I wouldn't do them in the first place. Maybe not everyone is this open though.)